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lol. It won't go away. Front page of CNN:
Obama 'outraged' by Wright's remarks
(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama said he is "outraged" by comments his former minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, made Monday at the National Press Club and "saddened by the spectacle."
"I have been a member of Trinity Church since 1992. I have known Rev. Wright for almost 20 years," he said at a news conference in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. "The person I saw yesterday is not the person I met 20 years ago."
Obama said he is outraged by Wright's remarks that seemed to suggest the U.S. government might be responsible for the spread of AIDS in the black community, and his equation of some American wartime efforts with terrorism.
"What particularly angered me was his suggestion somehow that my previous denunciation of his remarks were somehow political posturing," said Obama, who added that Wright had shown "little regard for me" and seemed more concerned with "taking center stage."
Earlier this year, some of Wright's outspoken sermons, circulated and widely discussed on the Internet and on television, became an issue in the Democratic presidential race because of the former pastor's ties to Obama.
In one sermon, Wright said America had brought the September 11, 2001, attacks upon itself. In another, he said Sen. Hillary Clinton had an advantage over Obama because she is white.
Obama gave a speech on race relations during the height of the controversy with Wright and said he rejected Wright's racially charged comments but could not repudiate the man himself.
Obama on Monday said Wright's remarks were "antithetical to our campaign, it was antithetical to what we're about."
"I cannot prevent him from making these remarks," but "when I say I find these comments appalling I mean it. It contradicts what I'm about and who I am ... It is completely opposed to what I stand for and where I want to take this country."
In a break with previous comments, Obama focused his criticism on Wright the man, and not simply his remarks.
Obama said he gave Wright "the benefit of the doubt" before his speech on race relations.
"What we saw yesterday from Rev. Wright was a resurfacing and, I believe, an exploitation of these old divisions," Obama said.
He said he had not spoken with Wright since the minister's Monday speech, though he would not rule out a conversation with him in the future.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/29/obama.wright/index.html
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Thank God. I respect Obama for these comments and I'm glad he spoke up cause Wright's old anger is not good for the country, race relations, or black people in general...but I still find it hard to believe he didn't know this was Rev Wright after 20 yrs....I don't see Wright as someone who has changed spots. One positive comment about Wright is that he doesn't seem to be a flip flopper.
I listened to a lot of the talk from yesterday's speech and within minutes I found Wright to be an angry black liberation theologist, focused on past wrongs who has a style of delivery that is at least unsettling.
Perhaps Obama didn't have much of a choice to denounce Wright because of his political campaign...but Wright doesn't seem to have Obama's best interest at heart either because these kind of far left wing comments ring poorly with more conservative democrats and moderates.
How pompus to say he speaks for all black churches...glad to see several black commentators draw back from Wright's comments yesterday.
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Friendships are often destroyed over the course of a long presidential campaign. I think this one has crashed and burned. LOL
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Friendships are often destroyed over the course of a long presidential campaign. I think this one has crashed and burned. LOL
Let me guess, now that Obama is finally "appalled", you are too?
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Let me guess, now that Obama is finally "appalled", you are too?
HAHAHAHAHA. No doubt Benny will be singing a different tune now while trying to deny ever making the comment he has over the past few days. That's what pussies do.
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Still its nice to see Obama acknowledge that this isn't the right focus for bringing our country together.
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Friendships are often destroyed over the course of a long presidential campaign. I think this one has crashed and burned. LOL
yeah 22 + year friendships crash and burn over a issue that he has no idea was going on in the church ::) keep living an illusory lifestlye of pondering thoughts
Still its nice to see Obama acknowledge that this isn't the right focus for bringing our country together.
I guess by bringing the country together you mean appearing on FOX News and appeasing the right by answering questions like a simpleton, when he was supposed to outline what he plans to change, but instead played Q & A, like a soft liberal being whipped around. Yea I can see the focus is coming aclear
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Gotta respect Obama for coming out so strongly against this idiot. I saw the Rev. Wright clip in question and it was clearly a performance piece designed to elicit attention much like any time Al Sharpton appears in public. This was a much better reaction than McCain's reaction to Hagee's proclamation that Katrina was gods punishment on sinners. McCain didn't reject him at all.
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It's about fvcking time.
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HAHAHAHAHA. No doubt Benny will be singing a different tune now while trying to deny ever making the comment he has over the past few days. That's what pussies do.
haha, I can't wait to hear how he'll answer this one.
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Let me guess, now that Obama is finally "appalled", you are too?
Not even one scintilla. You obviously don't know me. ;)
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HAHAHAHAHA. No doubt Benny will be singing a different tune now while trying to deny ever making the comment he has over the past few days. That's what pussies do.
Why would I need to "sing a different tune", horseface? ::)
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haha, I can't wait to hear how he'll answer this one.
What question do I need to answer? ???
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I guess by bringing the country together you mean appearing on FOX News and appeasing the right by answering questions like a simpleton, when he was supposed to outline what he plans to change, but instead played Q & A, like a soft liberal being whipped around. Yea I can see the focus is coming aclear
I've been saying this for months, he's just another duplicitous politician, surprise, surprise.
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I've been saying this for months, he's just another duplicitous politician, surprise, surprise.
Show respect for your next president.
It sounds like jealousy because the quack you supported received...
14 delegates :D
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Show respect for your next president.
It sounds like jealousy because the quack you supported received...
14 delegates :D
14 delegates and a whole lot of integrity, something your man lacks. He's like a leaf in the wind.
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I'm not saying this is so but I think we all might want to consider..
Obama knows this guy has hurt his chances. The only logical thing has been to distance himself from day 1. If he tried to down play the Wright issue, distance himself on good terms, or outright lie to the country about his relationship with the man this wouldn't work. In other words he knows he won't have a shot in hell at winning as long as this guy is close and the only BELIEVABLE way to distance himself from the man is a very heated and public feud.
I can't tell if this is BS or not but I don't put it past him to pull some antics from a professional wrestling playbook in order to get one step closer to the presidency.
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I'm not saying this is so but I think we all might want to consider..
Obama knows this guy has hurt his chances. The only logical thing has been to distance himself from day 1. If he tried to down play the Wright issue, distance himself on good terms, or outright lie to the country about his relationship with the man this wouldn't work. In other words he knows he won't have a shot in hell at winning as long as this guy is close and the only BELIEVABLE way to distance himself from the man is a very heated and public feud.
I can't tell if this is BS or not but I don't put it past him to pull some antics from a professional wrestling playbook in order to get one step closer to the presidency.
Are you saying you think this might all be deliberate?
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Obama is being played like a pan flute by the Clintons.
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14 delegates and a whole lot of integrity, something your man lacks. He's like a leaf in the wind.
Obama has plenty of integrity. You just refuse to see it.
If Obama is a "leaf in the wind", your hero is a grain of sand on the beach.
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I'm not saying this is so but I think we all might want to consider..
Obama knows this guy has hurt his chances. The only logical thing has been to distance himself from day 1. If he tried to down play the Wright issue, distance himself on good terms, or outright lie to the country about his relationship with the man this wouldn't work. In other words he knows he won't have a shot in hell at winning as long as this guy is close and the only BELIEVABLE way to distance himself from the man is a very heated and public feud.
I can't tell if this is BS or not but I don't put it past him to pull some antics from a professional wrestling playbook in order to get one step closer to the presidency.
You harbor racist views and have no intention of voting for Obama anyway, so your opinion on a black presidential candidate is about as relevant as the opinion of a member of the John Birch Society. ::)
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Are you saying you think this might all be deliberate?
I think it's very possible. What do you think?
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I think it's very possible. What do you think?
you're entertaining some highly speculative theories without a shred of evidence, that no mainstream media outlet will touch.
Isn't it funny that the 911 truth movement has thousands of scientists, engineers, pilots, and military people who support it, a boatload of physical evidence, and you refuse to look at it.
Some would say you let your party loyalty dictate your moral compass ;)
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You harbor racist views and have no intention of voting for Obama anyway, so your opinion on a black presidential candidate is about as relevant as the opinion of a member of the John Birch Society. ::)
I wonder what bothers you more, my views about race in modern America, my assesment of the current political candidates, or that I'm 100% dead on about both.
;D
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you're entertaining some highly speculative theories without a shred of evidence, that no mainstream media outlet will touch.
Isn't it funny that the 911 truth movement has thousands of scientists, engineers, pilots, and military people who support it, a boatload of physical evidence, and you refuse to look at it.
Some would say you let your party loyalty dictate your moral compass ;)
Funny how no mainstream media will touch that one either.
It was just an idea. I'm not supporting either side so calm down.
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Funny how no mainstream media will touch that one either.
Do you even watch the news? Its been on CNN, FOX, NBC, and others dozens of times.
get a tv, dude.
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I wonder what bothers you more, my views about race in modern America, my assesment of the current political candidates, or that I'm 100% dead on about both.
;D
You keep telling yourself that, Slick. ;)
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I think it's very possible. What do you think?
I think it's possible. I wouldn't put anything past a political strategist. The only thing that seems to detract from the possibility as i initially think about it, is that until Wright made those statements the whole thing didn't seem to be an issue. So why now after Penn? Maybe to establish the separation now so they don't have to deal with it later?
It's probably more co-incidence or circumstance in that, Wright really did say some things Obama really didn't like. But we'll see in the next few days or weeks if a strong continuing rift is created between them.
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you're entertaining some highly speculative theories without a shred of evidence, that no mainstream media outlet will touch.
Isn't it funny that the 911 truth movement has thousands of scientists, engineers, pilots, and military people who support it, a boatload of physical evidence, and you refuse to look at it.
Some would say you let your party loyalty dictate your moral compass ;)
what are doing? You are worse than a Pyramid builder! ;D
Don't even hijack this! ;D
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I like Rev Wright
Uniquely American
As Bush used to say
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Obama has plenty of integrity. You just refuse to see it.
If Obama is a "leaf in the wind", your hero is a grain of sand on the beach.
I don't care if Ron Paul only had 1 delegate. His message is still the right one.
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Mar 18th called the guy his best friend, a part of the family, he baptised his kids, gave the vows for his marriage.....and he knew nothing about his views against the United States?
America aint buyin it......at least some
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Mar 18th called the guy his best friend, a part of the family, he baptised his kids, gave the vows for his marriage.....and he knew nothing about his views against the United States?
America aint buyin it......at least some
"best friend"? ::) You are lying.
Poll after poll suggest the majority of Americans don't care about this issue, homie. The ones that do weren't going to vote for Obama anyway. They just needed a public excuse.
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I think it's possible.
Thanks.. that's ALL I was trying to suggest. You must be the only guy here without an agenda.
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You must be the only guy here without an agenda.
hahahaha
great comedy
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"best friend"? ::) You are lying.
Poll after poll suggest the majority of Americans don't care about this issue, homie. The ones that do weren't going to vote for Obama anyway. They just needed a public excuse.
On the money.
This is a nonissue to me and I'm not even an Obama supporter.
What's next? Are they going to say that he doesn't wear enough red and blue ties during campaign speeches?
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Do you even watch the news? Its been on CNN, FOX, NBC, and others dozens of times.
get a tv, dude.
I watch the news frequently and everytime someone goes on spewing 9/11 truth nonsense they aren't even given the time of day. Nevertheless, mainstream news has more to report on the movement if anything than the actual case of the movement.
Either way.. it's BS.
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I watch the news frequently and everytime someone goes on spewing 9/11 truth nonsense they aren't even given the time of day.
Will you wash my truck if I can post a clip where they are given the time to make their case?
Will you wash my dishes if I post a clip?
Come on dude, I watch the news 24/7, they do give them fair time. hosts are often biased, but they usually get their equal time to make their case for millions of viewers.
Brix, I like to debate you, but you don't know the facts here. I've seen it dozens of times on all the news networks.
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These theories have been debunked by non-government experts 240, let it go!
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These theories have been debunked by non-government experts 240, let it go!
I hope you're kidding, shootfighter.
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Will you wash my truck if I can post a clip where they are given the time to make their case?
Will you wash my dishes if I post a clip?
Come on dude, I watch the news 24/7, they do give them fair time. hosts are often biased, but they usually get their equal time to make their case for millions of viewers.
Brix, I like to debate you, but you don't know the facts here. I've seen it dozens of times on all the news networks.
WOW that's some great discussion! PERHAPS YOU CAN START ANOTHER THREAD ON IT!!!!
;D
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I wonder how of this is just Wright feeding his ego and basking in the spotlight?
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Thats probably the biggest reason why he's doing it. Its the best chance for him to grab the spotlight and be heard...unfortunately.
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Thats probably the biggest reason why he's doing it. Its the best chance for him to grab the spotlight and be heard...unfortunately.
And i bet, it's more about self-gratification then his message.