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Title: Are the Clintons powerful enough to create a 3rd party?
Post by: Tre on May 07, 2008, 01:05:47 PM

We know we need it. 

The Clintons have a lot more juice than Ron Paul.

Are they the ones to create the alternative??
Title: Re: Are the Clintons powerful enough to create a 3rd party?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 07, 2008, 01:13:31 PM
Probably powerful enough, but Hillary is a liberal and liberals already have a party. 
Title: Re: Are the Clintons powerful enough to create a 3rd party?
Post by: shootfighter1 on May 07, 2008, 01:18:00 PM
She may want to try cause she's gonna be pissed come June, but she offers nothing different than traditional democrats.
Title: Re: Are the Clintons powerful enough to create a 3rd party?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 07, 2008, 01:28:26 PM
Probably powerful enough, but Hillary is a liberal and liberals already have a party. 

The neoconservative movement?
Title: Re: Are the Clintons powerful enough to create a 3rd party?
Post by: Tre on May 07, 2008, 01:58:51 PM
Probably powerful enough, but Hillary is a liberal and liberals already have a party. 

But what if she were to flip the switch and become a moderate...and a reasonably conservative (with respect to fiscal responsibility) one at that?

Not only does she have the power to do so (flip), but she would take a lot of her current Democratic supporters with her. 

The tough part would be getting people like me on board, but I will stand before you all and say this: 

If Hillary (and Bill) were to found a new, moderate party for the good the country, I would support the party.  That doesn't mean I'd ever vote for either of them on anything, but if they weren't on the ballot, I would be ok with supporting the party they'd founded.   
Title: Re: Are the Clintons powerful enough to create a 3rd party?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 07, 2008, 02:26:46 PM
1. it would giftwrap the election for mccain

2. they've have no backing.  most in the party are annoyed at them for dragging this out and hurting obama's chances.
Title: Re: Are the Clintons powerful enough to create a 3rd party?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 07, 2008, 02:31:30 PM
But what if she were to flip the switch and become a moderate...and a reasonably conservative (with respect to fiscal responsibility) one at that?

Not only does she have the power to do so (flip), but she would take a lot of her current Democratic supporters with her. 

The tough part would be getting people like me on board, but I will stand before you all and say this: 

If Hillary (and Bill) were to found a new, moderate party for the good the country, I would support the party.  That doesn't mean I'd ever vote for either of them on anything, but if they weren't on the ballot, I would be ok with supporting the party they'd founded.   

She would have to become Bill, who was a moderate.  Problem is she isn't Bill and people don't like her. 

A third party would have be led by someone much more likeable with a lot less baggage.
Title: Re: Are the Clintons powerful enough to create a 3rd party?
Post by: calmus on May 07, 2008, 04:28:40 PM

She don't got enough enough dough to compete in the general.
Title: Re: Are the Clintons powerful enough to create a 3rd party?
Post by: Tre on May 07, 2008, 05:07:34 PM

It would be at least 6-8 years before a new party candidate would be viable in a national election, but if the movement began now, it *could* be achieved. 

Just because 51% of Democrats voted for Obama, a much higher percentage than that actually LIKE the Clintons.  But even if 75% like them, we're still talking about only 24-25% of the voters.