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Title: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Dreadlord on May 09, 2008, 02:30:55 AM
Didn't Chick once mention that he modelled for a Captain America sketch? How many BB's model for Marvel/DC?



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(http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/4/5/9/f_PWJ13DCP000m_68d2dd5.jpg)

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Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Mars on May 09, 2008, 02:43:33 AM
Vince Goodrum for Xmen's Wolverine.
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: DK II on May 09, 2008, 02:46:17 AM
SF was a model for "The Blob"

(http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/2/25/Blob.PNG)
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Tombo on May 09, 2008, 03:08:25 AM
LOL .. ALL STRENGTH, JUST NO MIRRORS PLZ
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: DK II on May 09, 2008, 03:11:54 AM
LOL .. ALL STRENGTH, JUST NO MIRRORS PLZ

Mirrors and cameras are SF's kryptonite. Oh and google earth.  ;D
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Bluto on May 09, 2008, 04:27:32 AM
good examples there
keep em coming
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Red Hook on May 09, 2008, 04:32:36 AM
Stacey Simmons

(http://www.stacysimons.com/media/Gal_Miami1B.jpg)

(http://www.intuitivewebdesigns.com/comics/graphics/xmen/storm.jpg)
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: dr.chimps on May 09, 2008, 05:49:21 AM
Mirrors and cameras are SF's kryptonite. Oh and google earth.  ;D
Excellent one!  :D
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: DK II on May 09, 2008, 05:56:58 AM
Excellent one!  :D

thanks, i do my best.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Dreadlord on May 09, 2008, 11:11:28 PM


(http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/5/9/f_witchblade1m_4b97380.jpg)
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Dreadlord on May 09, 2008, 11:14:39 PM
Sheena and Shanna the she devil  :-*


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(http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/5/9/f_Shanna10011m_b83dfaa.jpg)

Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Dreadlord on May 09, 2008, 11:25:50 PM
Everyone's favorite canucknucklehead.

(http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/5/9/f_wolviem_71a2661.jpg)

Teaser for the upcoming hulk issue #4
(http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/4/5/9/f_Hulk3024m_e29abaf.jpg)


Michael Iron - from Iron and the Maiden

(http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/5/9/f_ironm_14ba715.jpg)
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: HTexan on May 09, 2008, 11:38:26 PM
bullshit, they just pick up a copy of flex. Why hire a person to pose, when you can get a mag about 5 bucks. :-\
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Mars on May 10, 2008, 12:53:10 AM
bullshit, they just pick up a copy of flex. Why hire a person to pose, when you can get a mag about 5 bucks. :-\

its also 5 bucks to hire them, so why complain.
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Stark on May 10, 2008, 01:10:58 AM
none is the answer,

I have done a lot of stuff regarding comics since that was initialy my ultimate dream and since I was drawing comics since the age of 7.
The once that get hired by DC or what ever other comic publisher are the once that are ultra talented, they don't need any models most of them would put you all to shame when it comes down to the initial knowlage of Anatomy.
If you need to have somebody to model for you, you are obviously not ready to draw (pencil) action comics.
 
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: BIG DUB on May 10, 2008, 01:13:28 AM
Stacey Simmons

(http://www.stacysimons.com/media/Gal_Miami1B.jpg)

(http://www.intuitivewebdesigns.com/comics/graphics/xmen/storm.jpg)

Stacy's My Baby..
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Bluto on May 10, 2008, 03:02:12 AM
Some artists definitely went with bodybuilders for inspiration, doesn't these two look familiar to you  ;)



Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: MAXX on May 10, 2008, 03:16:43 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=214327.0;attach=251019;image)

boobjob on this cartoon
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: _bruce_ on May 10, 2008, 05:05:32 AM
none is the answer,

I have done a lot of stuff regarding comics since that was initialy my ultimate dream and since I was drawing comics since the age of 7.
The once that get hired by DC or what ever other comic publisher are the once that are ultra talented, they don't need any models most of them would put you all to shame when it comes down to the initial knowlage of Anatomy.
If you need to have somebody to model for you, you are obviously not ready to draw (pencil) action comics.
 

Exactly - you've got to have it in your blood. You also need a high drawing-output to survive.
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on May 10, 2008, 05:07:29 AM
Some artists definitely went with bodybuilders for inspiration, doesn't these two look familiar to you  ;)





nice....labrada and lenda murray
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Dreadlord on May 10, 2008, 09:36:16 PM
Some artists definitely went with bodybuilders for inspiration, doesn't these two look familiar to you  ;)





Boris Vallejo's wife Julie was a bodybuilder so they both do a lot of artwork with a BB pros.
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: leaky_frog on May 10, 2008, 11:41:47 PM
Sometimes the comic artists get themselves into trouble by only looking at bodybuilding magazines, and not enough at skeletal anatomy.  They can draw the muscles beautifully, but are unable to tone down the physique, or keep them attached to the bones. 
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Method101 on May 10, 2008, 11:48:08 PM
(http://i109.piczo.com/view/4/8/r/h/y/l/e/c/r/6/r/t/img/i304662283_47423_5.jpg)

(http://www.samcci.comics.org/thor/thor.gif)



 :D ;D
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Mars on May 11, 2008, 12:10:42 AM
Sometimes the comic artists get themselves into trouble by only looking at bodybuilding magazines, and not enough at skeletal anatomy.  They can draw the muscles beautifully, but are unable to tone down the physique, or keep them attached to the bones. 

and how do you know?
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: _bruce_ on May 11, 2008, 04:09:26 AM
and how do you know?


Just take a look at Donald Duck.
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: leaky_frog on May 14, 2008, 04:21:44 PM
I'm an illustrator. 
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Chick on May 14, 2008, 05:25:26 PM
giddyup
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Zaphod on May 14, 2008, 05:28:05 PM
(http://www.windersports.net/comic4.jpg)
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Bluto on May 14, 2008, 05:37:13 PM
i blame comic books for giving kids unrealistic ideas about how they can look

and then they turn to steroids

Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: DK II on May 15, 2008, 01:09:47 AM
i blame comic books for giving kids unrealistic ideas about how they can look

and then they turn to steroids



bump for truth!
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: onlyme on May 15, 2008, 01:10:59 AM
Not a super heroes but a Super Dud.
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Barracuda on May 15, 2008, 01:57:00 AM
Not a super heroes but a Super Dud.

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Dreadlord on May 15, 2008, 02:23:17 AM
Comics influenced my training as a kid. Back then it was pushups/pullups/situps to build the "battle armor".  ;D.




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Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Wee Laddy on May 15, 2008, 02:31:53 AM
none is the answer,

I have done a lot of stuff regarding comics since that was initialy my ultimate dream and since I was drawing comics since the age of 7.
The once that get hired by DC or what ever other comic publisher are the once that are ultra talented, they don't need any models most of them would put you all to shame when it comes down to the initial knowlage of Anatomy.
If you need to have somebody to model for you, you are obviously not ready to draw (pencil) action comics.
 
You're retarded.  Comic artists almost always have reference in front of them.  Most comic painters take photos of their models and paint from those.  Do a little research on Alex Ross for examples.

Plus, comic artists "swipe" each other's page layouts and poses constantly.  Every artist has their favorites that they emulate to learn from.
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Dreadlord on May 15, 2008, 03:04:06 AM
You're retarded.  Comic artists almost always have reference in front of them.  Most comic painters take photos of their models and paint from those.  Do a little research on Alex Ross for examples.

Plus, comic artists "swipe" each other's page layouts and poses constantly.  Every artist has their favorites that they emulate to learn from.

Good point. Simon Bisley/Alex Horley use models as well. Maybe Chick can shed some more light on the matter since he was a "reference" for Cap
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Tombo on May 15, 2008, 03:11:01 AM
Sigh. Now ill have to do steroids.
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Bluto on May 15, 2008, 03:14:14 AM
i get the impression that the comic book hereos are getting bigger and bigger, just like bodybuilders on stage? punisher on the first page in this thread for example looks more jacked than ever!
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Dreadlord on May 15, 2008, 04:11:24 AM
i get the impression that the comic book hereos are getting bigger and bigger, just like bodybuilders on stage? punisher on the first page in this thread for example looks more jacked than ever!

I remember when cap used to be listed as 180lbs in the 1980's and that figure went to 200lbs and now its somewhere around 250lbs.

After all the steroid controversies they had a storyline where cap had the super soldier serum removed ( ???) from his body so  i guess he's drug free now  :D

From the upcoming game - Splatterhouse

(http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/4/5/15/f_Splatterhoum_3f5a160.png)
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Max on May 15, 2008, 12:16:58 PM
I remember when cap used to be listed as 180lbs in the 1980's and that figure went to 200lbs and now its somewhere around 250lbs.

After all the steroid controversies they had a storyline where cap had the super soldier serum removed ( ???) from his body so  i guess he's drug free now  :D

From the upcoming game - Splatterhouse

(http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/4/5/15/f_Splatterhoum_3f5a160.png)
I believe he had it put back in in a later issue.  Yes I'm a comic book Geek ;D
Now i think Prime was a little known charachter but tapped into alot of kids desires.  he was a skinnyu 13yr old who could mutate into the biggest, strongest most muscular superhero in the world ;D
(http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/primeuvgreenkevin15.jpg)
(http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/img/p/Prime.jpg)
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Dreadlord on May 16, 2008, 02:49:45 AM
While we're discussing artwork. Here's some of Frank Cho's latest


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(http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/4/5/16/f_RacerXJG0p0m_e1df53b.jpg)


Red Sonya.
(http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/5/16/f_savagetalesm_d789cdb.jpg)

Comics become fun when your girl decides to "dress up" for you  ;D

Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Bluto on May 16, 2008, 03:07:27 AM
looks good  :)
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Dreadlord on May 16, 2008, 03:32:05 AM
FBB role model - She-Hulk ( where do they come up with these corny names  :D_

(http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/4/5/16/f_she1m_953aeca.jpg)

(http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/4/5/16/f_she2m_0aec382.jpg)

Marvel takes a potshot at FBB

(http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/4/5/16/f_Sh23m_4fea894.jpg)
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Dreadlord on May 16, 2008, 03:36:51 AM
Black panther -  Artist - Joe Madureira

(http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/4/5/16/f_Ultimatesv3m_689cb22.jpg)

The Joker - a good physique is no laughing matter

(http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/5/16/f_ASBR08001m_1046bab.jpg)
(http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/4/5/16/f_ASBR08007m_8607937.jpg)

Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: stuntmovie on May 16, 2008, 06:54:07 AM
The best thing about the Prime superhero character is that the artist drew actual locations that were familiar to most bodybuilders - such as the pit at Venice Beach where Prime took on some of the bodybuilders for some forgotten reason.

The punk Superboy comic book also illustrated actual physical locations including Waikiki Beach with renderings of the actual hotels in the background.

Whatever happened to that punk Superboy character comic anyway?
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Dave D on May 16, 2008, 01:29:16 PM
none is the answer,

I have done a lot of stuff regarding comics since that was initialy my ultimate dream and since I was drawing comics since the age of 7.
The once that get hired by DC or what ever other comic publisher are the once that are ultra talented, they don't need any models most of them would put you all to shame when it comes down to the initial knowlage of Anatomy.
If you need to have somebody to model for you, you are obviously not ready to draw (pencil) action comics.
 

I've always wondered why comic books use GROSSLY over developed muscles on action figures and I just assumed it was because they didnt take anatomy into consideration..... hmmm..
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Tom on May 16, 2008, 02:10:25 PM
didn't cutler himself say he wanted to be fricking gigantic and a bodybuilder by looking at bb mags back in the day and also comic book superheroes? think i read or heard him say that! he liked the look of huge freaky musculature that superheroes are drawn like in comic books. i guess he achieved it?!
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Wee Laddy on May 16, 2008, 04:00:54 PM
I've always wondered why comic books use GROSSLY over developed muscles on action figures and I just assumed it was because they didnt take anatomy into consideration..... hmmm..
That mostly has to do with an artist's style and the flavor of the day.  Look at Adam Hughes for more realistic figures compared to, say, Stephen Platt for blown out bodies.  It's a stylistic preference.

Comic artists get in trouble when their figure education is other artists who have evolved a style, and not getting more classical training.  If you learn to draw by copying Todd McFarlane, you're stuff will be wacky.  Rob Liefeld is a great example of moderate talent with horrible understanding of the human figure.

There's an entire industry of artists who draw like Jim Lee, and they tend to stagnate in their artistic growth.  Jim, however, has a solid foundation in figure drawing and can grow and change.

You might like some of the old-school artists.  Look up John Buscema and Frank Frazetta for some outstanding figure art.
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 16, 2008, 04:48:49 PM
Lee Priest
(http://www.spawn.com/toys/movies/mm2/chucky/images/mm2_chucky_photo_02_dp.jpg)

(http://www.kollectablekaos.com.au/images/14in-Bride-of-chucky.jpg)

Dave Palumbo

(http://www.actionfigurecollectors.com/images/news/mezco/goonies_ser1_5.jpg)

Markus Rull

(http://www.reelmovienews.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/s2_cg_char_shrek_01_cmyk_1_image.jpg)

Bob Chick

(http://z.about.com/d/thyroid/1/0/2/a/joepiscopo.jpg)

WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHH !!!
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Dreadlord on May 16, 2008, 11:29:49 PM

Melting pot -Artist: Simon Bisley

(http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/5/16/f_Mpotm_a547151.jpg)


Witchblade
(http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/5/16/f_witchblade1m_892f27c.jpg)
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Special Ed on May 16, 2008, 11:42:29 PM
JaeJonna has actually done a bit of modeling for the Asian Flare Squad!
(http://a138.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/37/l_2948afe585171a202a5513d9a2998f59.jpg)
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Stark on May 17, 2008, 02:40:37 AM
You're retarded.  Comic artists almost always have reference in front of them.  Most comic painters take photos of their models and paint from those.  Do a little research on Alex Ross for examples.

Plus, comic artists "swipe" each other's page layouts and poses constantly.  Every artist has their favorites that they emulate to learn from.

You haven't the slightest idea... how do I know that? Simply because I've enjoyed 3 years in an german art school and every teacher tells you the same thing over and over again, if you do not understand the human body you will not be able to draw properly, every book from Drawing the Marvel way to the best books about drawing the human body will tell you always the same thing again.
I know a lot of comic artists ~(or have known them) and I have watched them work and non need any guidance when it comes down to draw poses, there are certain poses (marvel has some very distinctive once) you will see over and over again that has nothing todo with artists copying them self, but simply because they are stylish and emphasize a certain part of the story.
Seriously don't bother explaining yourself you have no idea..

To further prove my point, and there are thousands on youtube, and none of them (some you can see the whole room ;) need a model)





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Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Max on May 17, 2008, 10:15:27 AM
The best thing about the Prime superhero character is that the artist drew actual locations that were familiar to most bodybuilders - such as the pit at Venice Beach where Prime took on some of the bodybuilders for some forgotten reason.

The punk Superboy comic book also illustrated actual physical locations including Waikiki Beach with renderings of the actual hotels in the background.

Whatever happened to that punk Superboy character comic anyway?
One of the covers of the Prime comic was him competing at muscle beach and seriously outsizing all the bodybuilders.
Superboy had a makover then was killed about a year ago during the infinite crisis saga.
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: stuntmovie on May 17, 2008, 10:54:36 AM
Thanks, Max. SOme of the background drawings in that Prime comic were actual backgrounds of Venice Beach if I recall correctly,

They killed Superboy!!!??? The Super kid in the leather jacket with the dog?????

Those BASTIDS!
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: Wee Laddy on May 17, 2008, 03:51:30 PM
You haven't the slightest idea... how do I know that? Simply because I've enjoyed 3 years in an german art school and every teacher tells you the same thing over and over again, if you do not understand the human body you will not be able to draw properly, every book from Drawing the Marvel way to the best books about drawing the human body will tell you always the same thing again.
I know a lot of comic artists ~(or have known them) and I have watched them work and non need any guidance when it comes down to draw poses, there are certain poses (marvel has some very distinctive once) you will see over and over again that has nothing todo with artists copying them self, but simply because they are stylish and emphasize a certain part of the story.
Seriously don't bother explaining yourself you have no idea..

To further prove my point, and there are thousands on youtube, and none of them (some you can see the whole room ;) need a model)

First, I objected to your statement that comic book artists don't use reference.  They constantly have art books and photos in front of them.
Quote
If you need to have somebody to model for you, you are obviously not ready to draw (pencil) action comics.
Second, I enjoyed 10 years in the actual comic book industry (working for Marvel, DC, and some Image studios) getting paid to do comic book art.  I'm no art school fag talking to failed artists who became teachers.  Most of my friends are comic artists currently working in the industry.

The top, highest paid comic book artist Alex Ross regularly has models pose for him.  He constantly uses photo reference, even tracing the photos.  Comics are a disposable art form.  When you have to draw 22 pages 12 times a year, shortcuts are the only way to stay on schedule.
Title: Re: BB modelling for comics
Post by: arce377 on May 17, 2008, 05:02:09 PM
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