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Title: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: ChessMaster250 on May 11, 2008, 08:29:08 PM
I though i read somewhere that Arnold and Weider agreed he would take away from Arnold's "attention"....
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: The_Hammer on May 11, 2008, 08:51:49 PM
Not sure if this is 100% accurate but I heard he was high on PCP and was acting really weird in the gym so they cut his scenes.
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: timfogarty on May 11, 2008, 08:52:43 PM
how about Pumping Iron was 1977 and Dave Draper sued Joe Weider in 1975

Dave settled that suit for $17,500 moments before the jury was to return to award Dave almost $900,000
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: Meltdown on May 11, 2008, 08:57:15 PM
Why sue and then crumble weak BB got what he deserved.That's why they compete for peanuts now and do as they are told.
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: WillGrant on May 11, 2008, 09:22:25 PM
how about Pumping Iron was 1977 and Dave Draper sued Joe Weider in 1975

Dave settled that suit for $17,500 moments before the jury was to return to award Dave almost $900,000
Ouch , poor guy  :-\
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: Earl1972 on May 11, 2008, 09:34:06 PM
what competition was dave competing in while they filmed?

arnold said in his encyclopedia that they cut the scenes with frank zane because he was boring

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Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 11, 2008, 09:37:39 PM
The Beef wonders why dave has never been on ProBodybuildingWeekly?

The Beef
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: gordiano on May 11, 2008, 10:44:42 PM
what competition was dave competing in while they filmed?

arnold said in his encyclopedia that they cut the scenes with frank zane because he was boring

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Earl, are you suggesting Frank may be Jay Cutler's real father?
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: jwb on May 11, 2008, 11:10:00 PM
Pretty sure that by 1975 Dave Draper was drifting around the country with a bottle by his side.

He didn't turn things around until the mid 80's.

 
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: Earl1972 on May 11, 2008, 11:13:40 PM
Earl, are you suggesting Frank may be Jay Cutler's real father?

frank was a down to earth normal guy

that's great for real life but isn't entertaining in movies

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Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: HTexan on May 11, 2008, 11:16:48 PM
because joe moves on to a new "friend" ;)
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: pumpster on May 11, 2008, 11:52:36 PM
Not sure if this is 100% accurate but I heard he was high on PCP and was acting really weird in the gym so they cut his scenes.

Supposedly they showed up at his place ready to film but were unable due to his addictions.
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: Swedish Viking on May 11, 2008, 11:55:29 PM
What is all this talk about him and substance abuse...I've never heard any of this, care to expound?
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: pumpster on May 12, 2008, 12:08:32 AM
What is all this talk about him and substance abuse...I've never heard any of this, care to expound?

Try to see the E! Hollywood story about him, since that's the only media source i know of; heavy substance abuse, heart attack, lost everything, etc. then made a comeback in part thanx to Schwarzenegger's financing of a couple of gyms.

http://www.qa.hollywood.com/tv/Maggie/5175425
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: TechnoViking on May 12, 2008, 03:12:23 AM
I'm pretty sure it had something to do with Basile snapping pictures of him and really creeping him out...Many people told Draper that Basile had Dave's pictures plastered all over his bedroom(rumor has it)
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: Moosejay on May 12, 2008, 05:33:58 AM
Supposedly they showed up at his place ready to film but were unable due to his addictions.

That is part of it
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: Moosejay on May 12, 2008, 05:35:11 AM
what competition was dave competing in while they filmed?

arnold said in his encyclopedia that they cut the scenes with frank zane because he was boring

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Actually, they waited until the reults of the 75 contests to see whose footage would be used the most in the film. Zane was out of the money at the O, thus he was not featured substantially
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: Moosejay on May 12, 2008, 05:35:52 AM
how about Pumping Iron was 1977 and Dave Draper sued Joe Weider in 1975

Dave settled that suit for $17,500 moments before the jury was to return to award Dave almost $900,000

For what did he sue Weider?

And, jeez, 900k back then...must have been worth a couple of million
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on May 12, 2008, 06:09:54 AM
He claims in his book he was living up in the woods and was suffering from acetate poisoning from some sort of shit he was working on and couldn't talk. I'm not going to shit on the dudes honesty but I'd believe him.
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: Ursus on May 12, 2008, 11:03:45 AM
how about Pumping Iron was 1977 and Dave Draper sued Joe Weider in 1975

Dave settled that suit for $17,500 moments before the jury was to return to award Dave almost $900,000

so arnold was competing in his 6th Mr Olympia in 1977 ???

Im more of a historian than you. ::)
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: Matt C on May 12, 2008, 11:18:02 AM
so arnold was competing in his 6th Mr Olympia in 1977 ???

Im more of a historian than you. ::)

No, but Pumping Iron was released that year.
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: medz zeppelin on May 12, 2008, 11:22:23 AM
frank was a down to earth normal guy

that's great for real life but isn't entertaining in movies

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and these dicks want to take the drugs out of bb
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: knny187 on May 12, 2008, 11:37:22 AM
The Beef wonders why dave has never been on ProBodybuildingWeekly?

The Beef

Thats a good question
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: JohnnyVegas on May 12, 2008, 11:49:43 AM
how about Pumping Iron was 1977 and Dave Draper sued Joe Weider in 1975

Dave settled that suit for $17,500 moments before the jury was to return to award Dave almost $900,000

The lawsuit is well known, as was the settlement, but where did you hear that the jury had returnd a verdict so large???? ($900K in 1975 would buy the biggest beach mansion in Santa Monica).
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 12, 2008, 01:31:35 PM
For what did he sue Weider?

And, jeez, 900k back then...must have been worth a couple of million

At least 10 million to todays standards.
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: timfogarty on May 12, 2008, 01:52:47 PM
The lawsuit is well known, as was the settlement, but where did you hear that the jury had returnd a verdict so large???? ($900K in 1975 would buy the biggest beach mansion in Santa Monica).

http://www.davedraper.com/draper-article-history.html

which refers to the Sep 1975 issue of Muscle Training Illustrated,
which refers to a March 23 1975 article from THE SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: JohnnyVegas on May 12, 2008, 08:15:30 PM
At least 10 million to todays standards.

No shit!
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: The_Hammer on May 12, 2008, 11:14:17 PM
Just imagine Draper fucked up on PCP in the gym.  That'd be a funny sight.  He'd probably shit his pants and slick the feces through his hair I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: JohnnyVegas on May 12, 2008, 11:37:01 PM
http://www.davedraper.com/draper-article-history.html

which refers to the Sep 1975 issue of Muscle Training Illustrated,
which refers to a March 23 1975 article from THE SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE

OK. I wonder if Joe has the SF Chronicle story???
Title: Re: Why Was Dave Draper Left Out Of Pumping Iron?
Post by: The ChemistV2 on May 13, 2008, 03:13:14 PM
OK. I wonder if Joe has the SF Chronicle story???
Draper wasn't competing when Pumping Iron was being made, although he did some guest posing. I don't think he was even training at Gold's with Arnold and the guys back then. Draper's pretty cool though. He's very philosophical and a good writer as well. I spoke to him once when he was at the 78 Olympia. I heard a guy ask him if it was true that he did a lot of dope, acid and booze and he he just looked at the guy and said, "Yep." I've seen some great shots of him still looking shredded when he was in his late 50's and early 60's, but his face looked a bit ravaged.