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I have a friend who is using a minimal amount of Test (500mgs per week) but he is geting GYNO very severely. BUT the thing is is that he totally dont seem to realize it. He is not a fat guy at all, he is about 190 pounds and pretty lean. This is his 2nd run at this, the first time he got good results but now he is getting bad gyno. He is walking around out in his yard mowing shirtless, at the gym in Tank tops etc etc where it is very visible.
My question is as a friend should I tell him "Hey you need to get on something to fix that" or should I just let him go and see if he figures it out on his own? When I say obvious I mean VERY OBVIOUS!!!
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I have a friend who is using a minimal amount of Test (500mgs per week) but he is geting GYNO very severely. BUT the thing is is that he totally dont seem to realize it. He is not a fat guy at all, he is about 190 pounds and pretty lean. This is his 2nd run at this, the first time he got good results but now he is getting bad gyno. He is walking around out in his yard mowing shirtless, at the gym in Tank tops etc etc where it is very visible.
My question is as a friend should I tell him "Hey you need to get on something to fix that" or should I just let him go and see if he figures it out on his own? When I say obvious I mean VERY OBVIOUS!!!
500mg's a week of test is not a minimal amount-unless youre a pro.
Tell your buddy just in case he does not know-if he stops soon enough it could go away on it's own, otherwise get ready to spend some $$$$ on suregry.
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gyno is beautiful
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500mg's a week of test is not a minimal amount-unless youre a pro.
Tell your buddy just in case he does not know-if he stops soon enough it could go away on it's own, otherwise get ready to spend some $$$$ on suregry.
::)
WOLFY.. JUST TELL HIM THAT YOU HAVE NOTICED IT. THATS ALL BRO.
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My question is as a friend should I tell him "Hey you need to get on something to fix that" or should I just let him go and see if he figures it out on his own? When I say obvious I mean VERY OBVIOUS!!!
Fix what? If you're a REAL friend, you'll get him a nice set of bra
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Wolfie, please get pictures of him shirtless. We can make a thread for him, like this one: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=156198.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=156198.0)
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tell him or get him a training bra one or the other
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Buy him a "manzier." Or as Georges dad calls it, a "Bro."
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Wolfie, is it this bad?
(http://www.graphicmuscle.net/photos/transferred/QW5Q3204_ULGEFJBFNV.jpg)
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If he is a friend, then just be straight with him. He will appreciate your frankness and honesty in the long run.
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500mg's a week of test is not a minimal amount-unless youre a pro.
Tell your buddy just in case he does not know-if he stops soon enough it could go away on it's own, otherwise get ready to spend some $$$$ on suregry.
500mgs a week is nothing. do you even know what you're talking about dude?
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500mgs a week is nothing. do you even know what you're talking about dude?
no he doesnt ...
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500mgs a week is nothing. do you even know what you're talking about dude?
He obviously doesnt know what hes talkin aobut. cuz just gettin off the cycle wont stop the gyno. you gotta hit taht bitch with some letro and knock it out. otherwise the gyno will keep growin for the next few weeks/months.
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Wolfie, is it this bad?
(http://www.graphicmuscle.net/photos/transferred/QW5Q3204_ULGEFJBFNV.jpg)
If he was at the BF it might be!!!
Thanks guys!!!
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More importantly, does he have the bacne to go with it?
Like this dude?
(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/685/Men/bc0606.jpg)
(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/685/Men/bc0611.jpg)
(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/685/Men/bc0612.jpg)
(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/685/Men/bc0608.jpg)
(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/685/Men/bc0619.jpg)
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Here's what you need to do, Wolfie. Send him a link to that thread I liked to a few posts back, and tell him: friends don't let friends get epic gyno and compete!
HTH
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ask him if his nipples are tender. 6-oxo would probably help
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Here's what you need to do, Wolfie. Send him a link to that thread I liked to a few posts back, and tell him: friends don't let friends get epic gyno and compete!
HTH
are anti estrogens illegal where those guys live or what....
dere be some big ol tiitties....and goddamnnnnn pizza looking back filled acne crust!!!
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are anti estrogens illegal where those guys live or what....
dere be some big ol tiitties....and goddamnnnnn pizza looking back filled acne crust!!!
That is some serious gyno! :o :o :o ;D
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are anti estrogens illegal where those guys live or what....
dere be some big ol tiitties....and goddamnnnnn pizza looking back filled acne crust!!!
one of the best pics. ive seen :P :P :P
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are anti estrogens illegal where those guys live or what....
dere be some big ol tiitties....and goddamnnnnn pizza looking back filled acne crust!!!
tranny? possibly.
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My question is as a friend should I tell him "Hey you need to get on something to fix that" or should I just let him go and see if he figures it out on his own? When I say obvious I mean VERY OBVIOUS!!!
Of course tell him. Is he not running any anti-estrogens with the test?
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Grab him by the nipple and when he cries like a bitch tell him if he didn't have Gyno it wouldn't hurt as much.Get the dude some Nolvadex for xmas.
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I have a friend who is using a minimal amount of Test (500mgs per week) but he is geting GYNO very severely. BUT the thing is is that he totally dont seem to realize it. He is not a fat guy at all, he is about 190 pounds and pretty lean. This is his 2nd run at this, the first time he got good results but now he is getting bad gyno. He is walking around out in his yard mowing shirtless, at the gym in Tank tops etc etc where it is very visible.
My question is as a friend should I tell him "Hey you need to get on something to fix that" or should I just let him go and see if he figures it out on his own? When I say obvious I mean VERY OBVIOUS!!!
If it's as VERY OBVIOUS as you say it is, he doesn't need you to bring it up. Chances are he spends more time looking at his chest than you do. If it's important to him, he will act on it. When he is shirtless in your presence simply avert your eyes. Problem solved.
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500mgs a week is nothing. do you even know what you're talking about dude?
100-200Mg is minimal, 250mg's is enough to make good gains, 500Mg's is a big cycle.
You clowns are starting to remind me of that dork Billy "2 grams/week" Gunns. ::)
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100-200Mg is minimal, 250mg's is enough to make good gains, 500Mg's is a big cycle.
You clowns are starting to remind me of that dork Billy "2 grams/week" Gunns. ::)
250 mgs is pretty much hrt
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100-200Mg is minimal, 250mg's is enough to make good gains, 500Mg's is a big cycle.
You clowns are starting to remind me of that dork Billy "2 grams/week" Gunns. ::)
You can get 200mg from some HRT clinics. And you're saying you'll get "good gains" out of 250?
Hmmmmm.... now we know Joe Loco's secret! ;D
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250 HRT if it's every 3rd week.How Fukin many over 40s need 250 a week???
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250 HRT if it's every 3rd week.How Fukin many over 40s need 250 a week???
It's not what you "need", it's what you "want". If it comes right down to it, NO ONE "needs" HRT at all. I said 200mg because it's about the most a Dr. could get away with without raising too many eyebrows.
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;D 250 mg/week... one could make better gains on a high fat diet... ;D
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one could make better gains on a high fat diet... ;D
WHy don't you try it and let us know how you make out?
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More importantly, does he have the bacne to go with it?
Like this dude?
(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/685/Men/bc0606.jpg)
(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/685/Men/bc0611.jpg)
(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/685/Men/bc0612.jpg)
(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/685/Men/bc0608.jpg)
(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/685/Men/bc0619.jpg)
He looks great! ::)
I would suggest adding another compound to his cycle.
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How Fukin Sad that 250mg a week is considered NOTHING.
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100-200Mg is minimal, 250mg's is enough to make good gains, 500Mg's is a big cycle.
You clowns are starting to remind me of that dork Billy "2 grams/week" Gunns. ::)
oh yeah...expert advice from the armchair quarterback.. LOL, what the hell do you know about hormones !?? 500mg is a base test cycle, it's by no means a big cycle. Most pro's use 3000-4000mg of test a WEEK.
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250 mgs is pretty much hrt
250mgs/week is NOT HRT.
The average male produces 4-7 mg's/day of test.
That is 28 to 49 Mg's per week for normal production. 250 Mg's per week would be 500%-1000% more than normal production.
oh yeah...expert advice from the armchair quarterback.. LOL, what the hell do you know about hormones !?? 500mg is a base test cycle, it's by no means a big cycle. Most pro's use 3000-4000mg of test a WEEK.
Some Pro's, acutally MOST Pro's take 5-10 grams a week, some take 15 grams per week. They are idiots. Like Billy "2 grams/week" Gunns. How big did bean pole Billy get on 2 grams per week??? He looked like a bean pole. What does that tell you????
When I used juice in the 80's my cycles were 3-4 dbols per day with 100 mg's/week of deca, and it worked like fucking magic. Biggest cycle I ever did was 250mg of sustenon, with 100 mg of deca per week-350mg total, got huge.
So huge cycles will not do jack shit for guys like Billy Gunns, but small 250-300mg week cycles for guys like me are night and day.
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back to the topic of the thread, instead of who gives a shit how much test you take
tell your friend about his gyno, unless hes gonna be on a stage next to you, or trying to pick up chicks at the pool with you....tell him
Recommend some arimidex or novladex or something to try and get rid of it.
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250mgs/week is NOT HRT.
The average male produces 4-7 mg's/day of test.
That is 28 to 49 Mg's per week for normal production. 250 Mg's per week would be 500%-1000% more than normal production.
Some Pro's, acutally MOST Pro's take 5-10 grams a week, some take 15 grams per week. They are idiots. Like Billy "2 grams/week" Gunns. How big did bean pole Billy get on 2 grams per week??? He looked like a bean pole. What does that tell you????
When I used juice in the 80's my cycles were 3-4 dbols per day with 100 mg's/week of deca, and it worked like fucking magic. Biggest cycle I ever did was 250mg of sustenon, with 100 mg of deca per week-350mg total, got huge.
So huge cycles will not do jack shit for guys like Billy Gunns, but small 250-300mg week cycles for guys like me are night and day.
Actually test per week is closer to 100, that must have been very unreliable source you saw. Also I never have any problems with your post, but when you said 500 is big, I thought you were joking. 500 is a girl getting ready for a local show, 1000- 2000 is average for first time competitors, National level bodybuilders will do 250 mg of test per day plus an additional 1500-2000 per week of other stuff +gh and other contest prep stuff. Average gym guy is 1000 and 2500+ is considered big for gym guys that don't compete. ;D
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When I used juice in the 80's my cycles were 3-4 dbols per day with 100 mg's/week of deca, and it worked like fucking magic. Biggest cycle I ever did was 250mg of sustenon, with 100 mg of deca per week-350mg total, got huge.
So huge cycles will not do jack shit for guys like Billy Gunns, but small 250-300mg week cycles for guys like me are night and day.
Maybe the shit you were getting in the 80's was legit pharma and the shit they get today is massively underdosed homebrew?
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just ask him what he is running for anti-E's...Tell him that he doesn't want to get bitch tits...Then just leave it alone...
It will be funny to you later on in life when he says to ya that he should have listened...
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Grab him by the nipple and when he cries like a bitch tell him if he didn't have Gyno it wouldn't hurt as much.Get the dude some Nolvadex for xmas.
watch out for the milk :-X
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ive taken plenty of cycles with zero nolva or armidex..... got zero gyno. its all genes how one responds, to anything.
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250mgs/week is NOT HRT.
The average male produces 4-7 mg's/day of test.
That is 28 to 49 Mg's per week for normal production. 250 Mg's per week would be 500%-1000% more than normal production.
Some Pro's, acutally MOST Pro's take 5-10 grams a week, some take 15 grams per week. They are idiots. Like Billy "2 grams/week" Gunns. How big did bean pole Billy get on 2 grams per week??? He looked like a bean pole. What does that tell you????
When I used juice in the 80's my cycles were 3-4 dbols per day with 100 mg's/week of deca, and it worked like fucking magic. Biggest cycle I ever did was 250mg of sustenon, with 100 mg of deca per week-350mg total, got huge.
So huge cycles will not do jack shit for guys like Billy Gunns, but small 250-300mg week cycles for guys like me are night and day.
you are one of the worst most unknolegable mooskiteers on this board friend,,you really really dont know your bodybuilding,,the hormones that you kids take and took were from china aka not real ,,underdosed to the 10th degree,,bil guns first of all is a fool and didnt have no base to even start bodybuilding thats true,,but anyone can bodybuild and would develop their phsyqie from real hormones as in legit pharma grade hormones,,his probelm was that a criminal and scammer was givgin him the products and conneciton so he got 1/10 of dirty poweder and thats why looked like poop
now 250mg a week is hrt doses,,and were prescribed and still ebgin presiceibed as either 200mg in usa or 250mg in europe
please take this fool of your advice list friends and put him in the crazy borads
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I have a friend who is using a minimal amount of Test (500mgs per week) but he is geting GYNO very severely. BUT the thing is is that he totally dont seem to realize it. He is not a fat guy at all, he is about 190 pounds and pretty lean. This is his 2nd run at this, the first time he got good results but now he is getting bad gyno. He is walking around out in his yard mowing shirtless, at the gym in Tank tops etc etc where it is very visible.
My question is as a friend should I tell him "Hey you need to get on something to fix that" or should I just let him go and see if he figures it out on his own? When I say obvious I mean VERY OBVIOUS!!!
youre lucky i saw his post so you now can have somethign to work with with my answer for you friend,,
he needs to go on internet and buy letrozole and nolvadex and work them together into the cycle he needs to work the letrozole and nolvadex at 1-2 mg a day and 20-40mg a day respectively,,
most guys do not need surgery ,,,letrozole and nolvadex will make the beggining of gyno go away very fast,,also 500mg testosterone is nothing and he most likley get the gyno because he alwys had high estrogen to test ratio with estrogen little higher than normal levels,,yoru friend is hairless correct? he got no bodyily hair before cycle ,,he has smooth skin like woman or close to it correct? dont answer because its correct,,
those fellas are very sensetive and after the introductuin of syntetic test to the body start growing stright hairs on the body and also estrogen start getting out of wack,,he needs letrozole and nolvadex untill it subsude and then continue with only letrozole so it cuts the problem from the core to minimal ,,nolva can be stopped moent gyno signed start fading but letrozole shoudl stay in to compltely reduce the estrogen production in body to 5-10% and keep it at minimal needed for growth and sexual activity
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I have a friend who is using a minimal amount of Test (500mgs per week) but he is geting GYNO very severely. BUT the thing is is that he totally dont seem to realize it. He is not a fat guy at all, he is about 190 pounds and pretty lean. This is his 2nd run at this, the first time he got good results but now he is getting bad gyno. He is walking around out in his yard mowing shirtless, at the gym in Tank tops etc etc where it is very visible.
My question is as a friend should I tell him "Hey you need to get on something to fix that" or should I just let him go and see if he figures it out on his own? When I say obvious I mean VERY OBVIOUS!!!
If you think he is very important person in your life. Be honest. Let him know.
But just a gym friend, leave it. He is happy with that. But,if he ask about it to you, dont hesitate to be honest and say it.
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youre lucky i saw his post so you now can have somethign to work with with my answer for you friend,,
he needs to go on internet and buy letrozole and nolvadex and work them together into the cycle he needs to work the letrozole and nolvadex at 1-2 mg a day and 20-40mg a day respectively,,
most guys do not need surgery ,,,letrozole and nolvadex will make the beggining of gyno go away very fast,,also 500mg testosterone is nothing and he most likley get the gyno because he alwys had high estrogen to test ratio with estrogen little higher than normal levels,,yoru friend is hairless correct? he got no bodyily hair before cycle ,,he has smooth skin like woman or close to it correct? dont answer because its correct,,
those fellas are very sensetive and after the introductuin of syntetic test to the body start growing stright hairs on the body and also estrogen start getting out of wack,,he needs letrozole and nolvadex untill it subsude and then continue with only letrozole so it cuts the problem from the core to minimal ,,nolva can be stopped moent gyno signed start fading but letrozole shoudl stay in to compltely reduce the estrogen production in body to 5-10% and keep it at minimal needed for growth and sexual activity
Great post
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gyno is beautiful
haha
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youre lucky i saw his post so you now can have somethign to work with with my answer for you friend,,
he needs to go on internet and buy letrozole and nolvadex and work them together into the cycle he needs to work the letrozole and nolvadex at 1-2 mg a day and 20-40mg a day respectively,,
most guys do not need surgery ,,,letrozole and nolvadex will make the beggining of gyno go away very fast,,also 500mg testosterone is nothing and he most likley get the gyno because he alwys had high estrogen to test ratio with estrogen little higher than normal levels,,yoru friend is hairless correct? he got no bodyily hair before cycle ,,he has smooth skin like woman or close to it correct? dont answer because its correct,,
those fellas are very sensetive and after the introductuin of syntetic test to the body start growing stright hairs on the body and also estrogen start getting out of wack,,he needs letrozole and nolvadex untill it subsude and then continue with only letrozole so it cuts the problem from the core to minimal ,,nolva can be stopped moent gyno signed start fading but letrozole shoudl stay in to compltely reduce the estrogen production in body to 5-10% and keep it at minimal needed for growth and sexual activity
Hey dick face did you actually read and comprehend Wolfe's post? He didn't say what chemicals could the guy use to treat the gyno (Wolfe, I am sure, know better than you). He simply asked "Should I tell my friend?" Why are you here? You should be comforting Patrick in his last days you imbecil.
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Maybe the shit you were getting in the 80's was legit pharma and the shit they get today is massively underdosed homebrew?
Good point.
There were no fake drugs on the scene until 1986 when Dan Duchaine and 2 other guys went into business with a Tijihuana pharmacy (Laboratory Milanos) making fake shit. So if fake shit were under dosed by half, a 750Mg cycle today would be equal to what I took in the 80's.
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you are one of the worst most unknolegable mooskiteers on this board friend,,you really really dont know your bodybuilding,,the hormones that you kids take and took were from china aka not real ,,underdosed to the 10th degree,,bil guns first of all is a fool and didnt have no base to even start bodybuilding thats true,,but anyone can bodybuild and would develop their phsyqie from real hormones as in legit pharma grade hormones,,his probelm was that a criminal and scammer was givgin him the products and conneciton so he got 1/10 of dirty poweder and thats why looked like poop
now 250mg a week is hrt doses,,and were prescribed and still ebgin presiceibed as either 200mg in usa or 250mg in europe
please take this fool of your advice list friends and put him in the crazy borads
Great...now we have Mr. I Know Everything and You Dont chiming in with more of his bullshit.
Hey, gh-ihaveiqof-15, is there anything in the world you are not an expert on????
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More importantly, does he have the bacne to go with it?
Like this dude?
(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/685/Men/bc0606.jpg)
I bet his back bleeds when he squats :-X
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250mgs/week is NOT HRT.
The average male produces 4-7 mg's/day of test.
That is 28 to 49 Mg's per week for normal production. 250 Mg's per week would be 500%-1000% more than normal production.
Some Pro's, acutally MOST Pro's take 5-10 grams a week, some take 15 grams per week. They are idiots. Like Billy "2 grams/week" Gunns. How big did bean pole Billy get on 2 grams per week??? He looked like a bean pole. What does that tell you????
When I used juice in the 80's my cycles were 3-4 dbols per day with 100 mg's/week of deca, and it worked like fucking magic. Biggest cycle I ever did was 250mg of sustenon, with 100 mg of deca per week-350mg total, got huge.
So huge cycles will not do jack shit for guys like Billy Gunns, but small 250-300mg week cycles for guys like me are night and day.
exactly.
gh15 talks out of his ass and cangizzle is an idiot as allways haha
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I had the exact same problem as this kid terrible acne, the only cure was Acutane and it cleared 90% off it but my Doctor would only let me cycle it as it was putting a great strain on my Liver.
No more Test or Anadrol for me.
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exactly.
gh15 talks out of his ass and cangizzle is an idiot as allways haha
are there things, minimum?
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youre lucky i saw his post so you now can have somethign to work with with my answer for you friend,,
he needs to go on internet and buy letrozole and nolvadex and work them together into the cycle he needs to work the letrozole and nolvadex at 1-2 mg a day and 20-40mg a day respectively,,
most guys do not need surgery ,,,letrozole and nolvadex will make the beggining of gyno go away very fast,,also 500mg testosterone is nothing and he most likley get the gyno because he alwys had high estrogen to test ratio with estrogen little higher than normal levels,,yoru friend is hairless correct? he got no bodyily hair before cycle ,,he has smooth skin like woman or close to it correct? dont answer because its correct,,
those fellas are very sensetive and after the introductuin of syntetic test to the body start growing stright hairs on the body and also estrogen start getting out of wack,,he needs letrozole and nolvadex untill it subsude and then continue with only letrozole so it cuts the problem from the core to minimal ,,nolva can be stopped moent gyno signed start fading but letrozole shoudl stay in to compltely reduce the estrogen production in body to 5-10% and keep it at minimal needed for growth and sexual activity
omg gh15 is right
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youre lucky i saw his post so you now can have somethign to work with with my answer for you friend,,
he needs to go on internet and buy letrozole and nolvadex and work them together into the cycle he needs to work the letrozole and nolvadex at 1-2 mg a day and 20-40mg a day respectively,,
most guys do not need surgery ,,,letrozole and nolvadex will make the beggining of gyno go away very fast,,also 500mg testosterone is nothing and he most likley get the gyno because he alwys had high estrogen to test ratio with estrogen little higher than normal levels,,yoru friend is hairless correct? he got no bodyily hair before cycle ,,he has smooth skin like woman or close to it correct? dont answer because its correct,,
those fellas are very sensetive and after the introductuin of syntetic test to the body start growing stright hairs on the body and also estrogen start getting out of wack,,he needs letrozole and nolvadex untill it subsude and then continue with only letrozole so it cuts the problem from the core to minimal ,,nolva can be stopped moent gyno signed start fading but letrozole shoudl stay in to compltely reduce the estrogen production in body to 5-10% and keep it at minimal needed for growth and sexual activity
damn gh15 your are some kind of fucking genious when it comes to hormones and the endocrine system
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damn gh15 your are some kind of fucking genious when it comes to hormones and the endocrine system
He only knew this because he had this same problem with his boyfriend.
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Don't tell him.it's much more fun to laugh at him behind his back.
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exactly.
gh15 talks out of his ass and cangizzle is an idiot as allways haha
When GH15 speaks you shut up and listen, got it. 9 out of ten bodybuilders not only believe and agree, but thank him for his knowledge. If you only listen maybe you will finally get past those 15-16 inch arms you have cand is not an idiot you are. If you have the balls to settle this then you post your pic and I`ll post mine and will show you what 2% looks like and what striated glutes look like wannabe, stop hating.
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Is it true that Bruce Nadler, M.D., the former, self-proclaimed 'gyno removal doc', recently killed himself and his wife?
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Is it true that Bruce Nadler, M.D., the former, self-proclaimed 'gyno removal doc', recently killed himself and his wife?
wow that's fuck up. i googled and found this:
http://mesomorphosis.com/blog/2008/02/08/bodybuilding-cosmetic-surgeon-bruce-nadler-dead-in-murder-suicide/
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When GH15 speaks you shut up and listen, got it. 9 out of ten bodybuilders not only believe and agree, but thank him for his knowledge. If you only listen maybe you will finally get past those 15-16 inch arms you have cand is not an idiot you are. If you have the balls to settle this then you post your pic and I`ll post mine and will show you what 2% looks like and what striated glutes look like wannabe, stop hating.
thanks bro. i agree with you, gh15 is a huge asset to this board.
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wow that's fuck up. i googled and found this:
http://mesomorphosis.com/blog/2008/02/08/bodybuilding-cosmetic-surgeon-bruce-nadler-dead-in-murder-suicide/
Holy Shit, guess I wont be referring him to that guy!!!
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Holy Shit, guess I wont be referring him to that guy!!!
there's a thread on here about him.
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I believe he was crestfallen over the fact that he found he could not quite make plastic surgery money being a personal trainer....business and monetary pressures set in...and bingo...shotgun blasts for all :-[
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I believe he was crestfallen over the fact that he found he could not quite make plastic surgery money being a personal trainer....business and monetary pressures set in...and bingo...shotgun blasts for all :-[
correct me if I'm wrong Mike (and I'm sure you will), but didn't he get his medical license taken away for some shady drug scripts?
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correct me if I'm wrong Mike (and I'm sure you will), but didn't he get his medical license taken away for some shady drug scripts?
Indeed he did, emn, indeed he did. Read one of the above-listed links....tells the woeful tale of Dr. Nadler's medicinal indescretions.
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I remember the video with Dr Nadler and this guy that wanted to be like arnold, showed his whole progress, he modeled and had huge bitch tits, Nadler took out his gyno on the tape and showed him after too. Kinda cool video!
Also nolva and letro really don't work too well for gyno, once it starts hurting or you can see signs of gyno your fucked.
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Wolfie, please get pictures of him shirtless. We can make a thread for him, like this one: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=156198.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=156198.0)
And then show it to your friend. The Getbig postings will get him to stop the test and get his gyno fixed.
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G15 is a fuckin retard, I would guess his suggestions might work for a pro but for an average guy at the guy?!?!?! no way would I follow his advice. In the real world less is more.
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G15 is a fuckin retard, I would guess his suggestions might work for a pro but for an average guy at the guy?!?!?! no way would I follow his advice. In the real world less is more.
of course you wouldn't, this is why your physique probably sucks.