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Title: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: 240 is Back on May 14, 2008, 05:59:12 PM
Call it grainy, call it Momo, call it what you will.

Kai is more shredded than we've seen in a few years from anyone. 

What's his secret?  Is it related to his illnesses at recent shows?  Is it sustainable?
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on May 14, 2008, 06:02:10 PM
what a great shot. look at that quad! But, no way he can sustain this level of dehydration/conditioning too often for too long IMHO
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 14, 2008, 06:06:46 PM
Kai is more shredded than we've seen in a few years from anyone. 


I don't think so. According to many he wasn't as hard/dry this year compared to last year. He has impressive striations in the quads for example, but that's genetic to a large degree. As far as conditioning look at Kjellström from the same comp. He was drier.

If Kai got sick at the contest it's probably because he wasn't quite there conditioning wise and had to push the diuretics. Take a look at his back when he guest posed the week before.
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: laurion on May 14, 2008, 06:08:42 PM
Call it grainy, call it Momo, call it what you will.

Kai is more shredded than we've seen in a few years from anyone. 

 1. What's his secret?  2. Is it related to his illnesses at recent shows?  3. Is it sustainable?

1. F@#king Grapefruits....

2. See article...... http://www.catie.ca/TU.NSF/df739470490ae50d8525717f0061769d/727b7c7400317bd085256b6f00583a6f!OpenDocument

3. At what cost !?!
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: swilkins1984 on May 14, 2008, 06:25:58 PM
Call it grainy, call it Momo, call it what you will.

Kai is more shredded than we've seen in a few years from anyone. 

What's his secret?  Is it related to his illnesses at recent shows?  Is it sustainable?

I think the guy just worked hard and is genetically able to get really dry. That and Vitamin C is a natural diuretic  ;D
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Meltdown on May 14, 2008, 06:29:26 PM
It can't be Diuretics as they are a Banned substance within the Rules of the IFBB.He does look healthy just like Munzer and Momo.No one in the IFBB gives a Fuk about health it's all about MONEY BABY.Livin The Dream.
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: m8 on May 14, 2008, 06:30:35 PM
Kai is dying for us.
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: chaos on May 14, 2008, 06:32:12 PM
That left bicep is looking terrible. Did he tear it?
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: cgcgraded on May 14, 2008, 06:32:42 PM
Call it grainy, call it Momo, call it what you will.

Kai is more shredded than we've seen in a few years from anyone. 

What's his secret?  Is it related to his illnesses at recent shows?  Is it sustainable?

are you fucking serious??
paco was fucking owning him in conditioning........
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: m8 on May 14, 2008, 06:33:17 PM
That left bicep is looking terrible. Did he tear it?

(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/38374-3/2008-new-york-pro-38.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=f4cba606ee8a934d913da31e2960941c)

 ::)
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: chaos on May 14, 2008, 06:47:07 PM
So "m8" (oh brother ::) ) are you saying the top pic is photoshopped to make his left bicep look about the size of a golfball?
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: m8 on May 14, 2008, 06:49:59 PM
So "m8" (oh brother ::) ) are you saying the top pic is photoshopped to make his left bicep look about the size of a golfball?

I didn't imply anything, "chaos".
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: marcus on May 14, 2008, 06:55:17 PM
His upper body is starting to resemble Kamali's.
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Moosejay on May 14, 2008, 06:59:16 PM
Call it grainy, call it Momo, call it what you will.

Kai is more shredded than we've seen in a few years from anyone. 

What's his secret?  Is it related to his illnesses at recent shows?  Is it sustainable?

I don't know...but that quad is pretty f-ing unbelievable.....
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Moosejay on May 14, 2008, 07:00:37 PM
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/38374-3/2008-new-york-pro-38.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=f4cba606ee8a934d913da31e2960941c)

 ::)

He would improve exponentially if he'd:

Shave his head
Lose the nose ring

If he reads this, do you think he'd comply?
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: candidizzle on May 14, 2008, 07:01:03 PM
I don't know...but that quad is pretty f-ing unbelievable.....
thats all genetics ..  no kind of drug or training or diet can make a muscle look like that..
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: swilkins1984 on May 14, 2008, 07:01:41 PM
He would improve exponentially if he'd:

Shave his head
Lose the nose ring

If he reads this, do you think he'd comply?

It would hurt standing on your head with no hair so probably not
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Moosejay on May 14, 2008, 07:04:24 PM
thats all genetics ..  no kind of drug or training or diet can make a muscle look like that..

Well...they help, but you are pretty much right
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: YoungBlood on May 14, 2008, 07:05:31 PM


I don't think so. According to many he wasn't as hard/dry this year compared to last year. He has impressive striations in the quads for example, but that's genetic to a large degree. As far as conditioning look at Kjellström from the same comp. He was drier.

If Kai got sick at the contest it's probably because he wasn't quite there conditioning wise and had to push the diuretics. Take a look at his back when he guest posed the week before.

I think Van is spot on. Everyone was doubting that Kai was in good enough shape by the looks of the one week out shots. Then he shows up in great condition, but you can tell he's still a tad off...and if he was indeed sick at the NY show, Van is more than likely right that he was relying on the drugs/diuretics rather than being in true peak shape.
Similar to how Mustafa Mohammed used to show up at Milos' gym with 2 weeks to go, in 6 weeks out shape (at best) and beg for Milos to make a miracle happen.
Kai, however, got the job done. We haven't heard from MM in a long time though. Hopefully Kai doesn't do the same magic act. :-\
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Moosejay on May 14, 2008, 07:06:08 PM
It would hurt standing on your head with no hair so probably not

True....I did say that the bun helps him to the spin thing on his noggin.

I also don't know about the cat-eye contacts he wears....he will likely scare the sh-- out of someone if he keeps up the tomfoolery, hullaballoo, and shenanigans (just wanted to use those three words in one sentence. Thank you) :)
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: m8 on May 14, 2008, 07:08:24 PM
He would improve exponentially if he'd:

Shave his head
Lose the nose ring

If he reads this, do you think he'd comply?

I said the exact same thing in another thread today.
I don't think he'd agree to do such a thing, no.
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Moosejay on May 14, 2008, 07:12:27 PM
If he wants to move up a placing or two at A or O, he will
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: monstercalves on May 14, 2008, 07:16:21 PM
True....I did say that the bun helps him to the spin thing on his noggin.

I also don't know about the cat-eye contacts he wears....he will likely scare the sh-- out of someone if he keeps up the tomfoolery, hullaballoo, and shenanigans (just wanted to use those three words in one sentence. Thank you) :)

ur a comic...............


ur spot on tho........ he is a good poser but needs to lose the bun and metal... its for fairies and soft individuals...

rob is spot on also.... this is some groundbreaking condition in recent years ... aside from dex and heath and what priest is able to achieve........but again as someone said...it may just be easy for him to achieve feathered quads etc.....have to wait and seeeeeee!!
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: monstercalves on May 14, 2008, 07:20:29 PM
I said the exact same thing in another thread today.
I don't think he'd agree to do such a thing, no.

the thing is.....kai looks like he is desperate to hit the big time...and he also doesnt seem stooooopid....

however, i dont understand why he hasnt cut the hair and got rid of the nose ring......

shawn and kevin were sortin this out in the mid 90s just to get a fraction ahead of the compition.....

if kai sorted it out... he would be more than just a fraction ahead
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Moosejay on May 14, 2008, 07:20:42 PM
Man...all I am saying is he should lose those distractions...If I am judging him....and it is very close with another...I am going with the other guy due to no distractions...simple math, folks(Kai)
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: 240 is Back on May 14, 2008, 07:22:28 PM
Kai has a different audience than Dex or heath does.

Kai *could* shave the head and lose the ring, and he'd move up a place or two and make 30k more.

Or, he could be the most ostentatious, obnoxious guest poster ever and work 40 weekends a year
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: monstercalves on May 14, 2008, 07:27:52 PM
Kai has a different audience than Dex or heath does.

Kai *could* shave the head and lose the ring, and he'd move up a place or two and make 30k more.

Or, he could be the most ostentatious, obnoxious guest poster ever and work 40 weekends a year

this is true in a way....but forget ur business mind for a sec here rob......

if he just lost the bun and metal he could win top shows ........

if he watches his waist.....could develop into a kovacs waist....imagine a black kovacs waist with a bun and a nose ring?.......shit



i might be gettin ahead of myself here      :-\
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Meltdown on May 14, 2008, 08:05:23 PM
Great to see an IFBB Pro who can Fuk Fruit and still win Pro shows and what was it that Priest did??. ::)
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: 240 is Back on May 14, 2008, 08:09:59 PM
I don't believe we'll see the same kai onstage in 2 years.

no way he can maintain this.  the change to hair and waistline over 6 months was not good.
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: chaos on May 14, 2008, 08:10:18 PM
Great to see an IFBB Pro who can Fuk Fruit and still win Pro shows and what was it that Priest did??. ::)
There is no rule on the books against banging helpless grapefruit with your appendage on video for gay men to masterbate to.


However, harmlessly competing in a rival federation, is against the rules, definately.
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: CT_Muscle on May 14, 2008, 08:13:57 PM


I don't think so. According to many he wasn't as hard/dry this year compared to last year. He has impressive striations in the quads for example, but that's genetic to a large degree. As far as conditioning look at Kjellström from the same comp. He was drier.

If Kai got sick at the contest it's probably because he wasn't quite there conditioning wise and had to push the diuretics. Take a look at his back when he guest posed the week before.

EXACTLY!
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Moosejay on May 14, 2008, 08:44:48 PM
Indeed. Exponential change in one week...beyond the realm of drinking fresh water and baling hay on the farm
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Swedish Viking on May 14, 2008, 09:12:56 PM
I don't what everyone's problem is with the dude's hair.  So it's long, I am still pretty capable of looking past it.  I think he should keep it.
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: jtsunami on May 14, 2008, 09:31:29 PM
Don't worry he will lose his hair in a year or two, he can't keep that pony tail on top for too much longer, his hair is receding like muther fucker.
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: youandme on May 14, 2008, 09:33:32 PM
lose the nose ring and cut the hair, and he's an awesome bodybuilder but it's all about presentation.

Have not seen this type of conditioning on a pro stage in some time now
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: slayer on May 14, 2008, 10:20:42 PM
I don't believe we'll see the same kai onstage in 2 years.

no way he can maintain this.  the change to hair and waistline over 6 months was not good.
no offense my friend, but you can barley construct a diet for yourself. How on earth can you have the knowledge to figure out what kia mite be doing that will make him not look like this in 2 yrs ???
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: MisterGX on May 14, 2008, 10:53:58 PM
He would improve exponentially if he'd:

Shave his head
Lose the nose ring

If he reads this, do you think he'd comply?

Not a chance...   
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: MisterGX on May 14, 2008, 11:01:57 PM
I don't believe we'll see the same kai onstage in 2 years.

no way he can maintain this.  the change to hair and waistline over 6 months was not good.

His hair was the same last year (just not in a bun), and he will be able to maintain/improve his conditioning with each show he enters.  I think after this year, you might just be seeing Kai compete in only one show per year.. 
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: phyxsius on May 15, 2008, 12:32:01 AM
Kai is dying for you bitches
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: gordiano on May 15, 2008, 12:46:15 AM
Kai is dying for you bitches

Somewhere......a Grapefruit sheds a tear..... :-\
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Method101 on May 15, 2008, 01:02:36 AM


If he reads this, do you think he'd comply?
no, hth luigi

p.s the fact men on this forum care so much about another guys hair is disturbing, grow a pair of balls now.
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: 240 is Back on May 15, 2008, 04:18:57 AM
no offense my friend, but you can barley construct a diet for yourself. How on earth can you have the knowledge to figure out what kia mite be doing that will make him not look like this in 2 yrs ???

brutal 'attack the messenger not the message'.

Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: wannahit2 on May 15, 2008, 04:47:03 AM
Kai isn't cutting his hair nor losing the nose ring. As all the people on here who can't let the grapefruit thing go, I just find it strange that it seems to fascinate you all that much. It's like everytime his name is brought up, you probably rush to watch the video again.  For the people that call each others gay so often on here, i find it quite odd you all are usually the first to post pictures from the site, or even find naked pictures of other bodybuilders. My question is, why are you looking for that?  Do you have your own tendencies which might scare you? 
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Petrucci on May 15, 2008, 05:05:11 AM
well, i can think in some recent names that has that kind of conditioning (if not more...) like Branch, Dexter, Paco Bautista...
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Moosejay on May 15, 2008, 05:21:33 AM
no, hth luigi

p.s the fact men on this forum care so much about another guys hair is disturbing, grow a pair of balls now.

I am speaking from a judging perspective, and quit staring at my balls.
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Moosejay on May 15, 2008, 05:24:24 AM
Kai isn't cutting his hair nor losing the nose ring. As all the people on here who can't let the grapefruit thing go, I just find it strange that it seems to fascinate you all that much. It's like everytime his name is brought up, you probably rush to watch the video again.  For the people that call each others gay so often on here, i find it quite odd you all are usually the first to post pictures from the site, or even find naked pictures of other bodybuilders. My question is, why are you looking for that?  Do you have your own tendencies which might scare you? 

I don't know of any grapefruit deal or videos.

I am speaking from the perspective of a competitor, judge, emcee and promoter.

If he isn't 'losing the hair or nosering(s)...sorry...if his goal is to win the Olympia or Arnold

He will not

Quell your anger

Not everyone here is out to bash your guy

and

If he cannot see himself as others see him...then I guess he really is a self-contained unit
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Meso_z on May 15, 2008, 05:33:36 AM
Kai isn't cutting his hair nor losing the nose ring. As all the people on here who can't let the grapefruit thing go, I just find it strange that it seems to fascinate you all that much. It's like everytime his name is brought up, you probably rush to watch the video again.  For the people that call each others gay so often on here, i find it quite odd you all are usually the first to post pictures from the site, or even find naked pictures of other bodybuilders. My question is, why are you looking for that?  Do you have your own tendencies which might scare you? 

hi Kai.
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: youandme on May 15, 2008, 05:40:46 AM
Kai isn't cutting his hair nor losing the nose ring. As all the people on here who can't let the grapefruit thing go, I just find it strange that it seems to fascinate you all that much. It's like everytime his name is brought up, you probably rush to watch the video again.  For the people that call each others gay so often on here, i find it quite odd you all are usually the first to post pictures from the site, or even find naked pictures of other bodybuilders. My question is, why are you looking for that?  Do you have your own tendencies which might scare you? 

 ::)
Title: Re: Kai's Suicidal Conditioning
Post by: Stavios on May 15, 2008, 07:33:53 AM
his waist litteraly exploded the last few months, his front relaxed is really horrible. NO taper


all the other poses are exellent tho, or most of them

incredible physique

I think he will get worst as the months go by