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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Stavios on May 15, 2008, 07:27:32 AM
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Any people with really long arms here ?
I noticed this morning, while doing half reps (ok more 3/4 reps) for the first time of my life in pressing movements that it seems to stimulate MUCH more the muscle than complete reps.
I am talking pressing movements only
seems like the best for people with long arms, and it allows you to push much heavier weight too
what do you guys think
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i have the same problem, i may have some mass on them but they appear to look skinny because its stredged out over a larger area, its fucking hard to make them look massive.
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I remember reading an article about "point of flexion". The article basically said that the effective ROM was actually much shorter than most people thought. For example to work chest on the bench press you stopped just short of having the bottom of your upper arm parallel with the floor and at the top you would stop just short of lockout. So basically a 1/2 to 3/4 rep. I don't know if there's any truth to that theory. Ummmmm...what the hell was this thread about and why did I just type that??????
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Doing like 3/4 movement on the flat press(not bringing the bar all the way up) is actually better if you're got long arms because it spares your rotator cuff and elbow joints.
I don't think it's proper to do half reps, but reps similar to the way Ronnie Coleman does. He doesn't go all the way up on a lot of movements because he doesn't really need to.
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I never do any flat presses tho, only inclines movements
I may do flat machine presses at the end of the workout but that's it.
usually when I did the incline press, I touched the upper-pec with the bar and then the rep was complete for me. Today I lowered to bar maybe around the chin level, the tension was much much better, chest was a lot more pumped and I could use much heavier weights
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I'm 6'4 so I guess I have pretty long limbs.
It can be a hassle sometimes.
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I'm 6'4 so I guess I have pretty long limbs.
I'm 5'8" so I guess I have pretty short limbs.
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I never do any flat presses tho, only inclines movements
I may do flat machine presses at the end of the workout but that's it.
usually when I did the incline press, I touched the upper-pec with the bar and then the rep was complete for me. Today I lowered to bar maybe around the chin level, the tension was much much better, chest was a lot more pumped and I could use much heavier weights
I feel that a complete rep is going all the way down, but not all the way up. Most strong lifters actually press like that and I find it to be better than a full ROM.
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I feel that a complete rep is going all the way up, but not all the way down. Most strong lifters actually press like that and I find it to be better than a full ROM.
Yes, but when most people are doing like a flat bench press, at the top of the movement, they will roll up their shoulders and thereby take the focus off the chest at the top.
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As long as you have 1 long limb your in good shape.
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Yes, but when most people are doing like a flat bench press, at the top of the movement, they will roll up their shoulders and thereby take the focus off the chest at the top.
yes that's why you need your scapula contracted the whole time, even while squeezing your chest
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Yes, but when most people are doing like a flat bench press, at the top of the movement, they will roll up their shoulders and thereby take the focus off the chest at the top.
LOL
I meant going all the way down, and not up.. lol
:-X
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I do Smith Inclines by doing one full rep,followed by one half rep=1 rep.
Try it out.......brutal.
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I do Smith Inclines by doing one full rep,followed by one half rep=1 rep.
Try it out.......brutal.
I'll try that Tim, thanks.
always nice to hear tricks from the veterans 8)
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I noticed this morning, while doing half reps (ok more 3/4 reps) for the first time of my life in pressing movements that it seems to stimulate MUCH more the muscle than complete reps.
Another bber discovers what i've been bleating on getbig for years now
TARGET RANGE OF MOTION as opposed to full range of motion
next lesson Vanadyl sulphate and its positive effects on Quality of contraction
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Another bber discovers what i've been bleating on getbig for years now
TARGET RANGE OF MOTION as opposed to full range of motion
next lesson Vanadyl sulphate and its positive effects on Quality of contraction
Be carefull there tho, I only talk about upper-body pressing movements.
For any back movements, biceps or legs movements, one should use full reps.
especially for legs
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Be carefull there tho, I only talk about upper-body pressing movements.
For any back movements, biceps or legs movements, one should use full reps.
especially for legs
for squats i bottom out..i knees click a lot but never hurt..
for leg presses i use a target range which helps me feel the eccentric the most
for back movements it depends on the weight...i start with full and move to target ranges
for bis i never fully extend..i actually think thats dangerous..
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I can't believe you guys are actualy talking about.. lifting weights!
Miracles happen.
A new era?
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Mmm still i cant see the logical connection of half reps and long arm about muscle growth.....
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Mmm still i cant see the logical connection of half reps and long arm about muscle growth.....
Maybe they don't know what they 're talking about?
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range of motion, mangy potion....its all the same to me !
"half reps" on chest seem to work best for me.
on back movements full ROM, but i sway at the hips to better target the back.. (people knock cutler and ronnies form on back movements but try it tou, it hits the lats so much more effectively)
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range of motion, mangy potion....its all the same to me !
:o haha ! look everyone !
The retard made a funney!
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Maybe they don't know what they 're talking about?
Yeah Look like, it is turning into half reps thing...
Stavios. Put in order everything.
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Yeah Look like, it is turning into half reps thing...
Stavios. Put in order everything.
what do you mean Kyomu. Don't ask me to explain better, I did the best I could in my post.
English is my second language and I am not very good to explain shits in detail
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i have long skinny arms.
sucks for benching, good for deads.
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what do you mean Kyomu. Don't ask me to explain better, I did the best I could in my post.
English is my second language and I am not very good to explain shits in detail
you should bring your french accent to california the women here put out like crazy for guys with accents..
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really ?
I'll have to try that ! ;D
I have a woman now since a few months, my days of chasing the ladies are over unfortunatly
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what do you mean Kyomu. Don't ask me to explain better, I did the best I could in my post.
English is my second language and I am not very good to explain shits in detail
Well.
You and other people were still not refering about the logical relationship of growth about long arm and half reps.
It works but why?
Even the short arm guy feel good when they do half reps if they trained with full reps all the time before.
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Well.
You and other people were still not refering about the logical relationship of growth about long arm and half reps.
It works but why?
Even the short arm guy feel good when they do half reps if they trained with full reps all the time before.
it works BECAUSE of "time under tension" and because it helps keep isolation of pectoralis from the deltoids!
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it works BECAUSE of "time under tension" and because it helps keep isolation of pectoralis from the deltoids!
Yeah, But why its peculiar to LONG ARM people?
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Yeah, But why its peculiar to LONG ARM people?
i think stavy just thought that maybe only people with long arms have ever experienced this. i know my arms are moderate, average sized and i feel the same way.
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Stavios,try doing Bradford Presses for delts.
You press in front just clearing the top of the head,then to behind the neck,just clearing top of head, and back to front,then behind neck, and so on.
Never locking out keeps constant tension on the delts..........great exercise.
Seated is better IMO and also try pre-exhaust Super-Setting them with laterals.
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i think stavy just thought that maybe only people with long arms have ever experienced this. i know my arms are moderate, average sized and i feel the same way.
See? Look at this.
You guys were not talking about the title of this thread. Thats why i thought that you guys are talking about different thing and i was wonder why.