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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: jeep4x4 on May 19, 2008, 04:11:05 PM
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Can I mix Winny and test prop in the same syringe even though one is oil and the other is water based? I am trying to save myself some sticks by mixing them. Will this cause any negative affects?
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Yes it's fine.
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i wouldn't.
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Its fine. Absorb the oil first, then the winstrol. Inject like normal.
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Originally I thought you couldn't mix oil and water then all the getbiggers told me you could; Asked 2 different pros around my area and both thought it was stupid, why bother, and they never had or wouldn't. So my suggestion is don't mix the winny, but rather use the the needle to shoot the winny in your mouth then fill it with your test. Liquid form of winny could be taken orally with same effect.
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Can I mix Winny and test prop in the same syringe even though one is oil and the other is water based? I am trying to save myself some sticks by mixing them. Will this cause any negative affects?
Oil and water don't mix. One is an oil base and one is a water based drug. Stack winny and test suspension as they are both water based drugs and can be used in the same seringe.
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Oil and water don't mix. One is an oil base and one is a water based drug. Stack winny and test suspension as they are both water based drugs and can be used in the same seringe.
The question was whether it was possible to mix oil based AS and water based AS in the same syringe, not whether water and oil mix. We all know they don't but we are not mixing them in a syringe to test this fact, we are mixing them to cut down on the injections.
Yes, you can mix oil based AS and water based AS in the same syringe if you want to keep the shots to a minimum. The fact that oil and water don't mix is completely irrelevant since they will both be injected in the muscle and absorbed.
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The question was whether it was possible to mix oil based AS and water based AS in the same syringe, not whether water and oil mix. We all know they don't but we are not mixing them in a syringe to test this fact, we are mixing them to cut down on the injections.
Yes, you can mix oil based AS and water based AS in the same syringe if you want to keep the shots to a minimum. The fact that oil and water don't mix is completely irrelevant since they will both be injected in the muscle and absorbed.
that makes sense... anyone else know this for a fact?
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you can mix them.
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that makes sense... anyone else know this for a fact?
Yes you can mix them for a fact. Personally I wouldn't. Rimbaud posted about this in detail a while back. The problem as he posted is you have water then oil going through the syringe, and sometimes in different order because their mixed up, and a steady injection is almost impossible due to the different pressures in the syringe. Also as stated above just drink the winny as long as its water based. Same effect just a shorter half life.
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Can I mix Winny and test prop in the same syringe even though one is oil and the other is water based? I am trying to save myself some sticks by mixing them. Will this cause any negative affects?
As others have said, jeepsters, drink the Winstrol, inject the Prop.
Why inject when you don't need to? ???
DIV
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I am not sure this is true...
But I always did this before, I shook the syringe well and it seemed to mix nicely enough to make the injections...
THEN... I got abscess and the doctor told me that it was cause I mixed oil with water and it is a big no no.
I also have to state that I made the shot really low down in my butt...
Anyway that was not fun!!!!!! Fever and infection and a big cut on my arse... I would risk it again...
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I am not sure this is true...
But I always did this before, I shook the syringe well and it seemed to mix nicely enough to make the injections...
THEN... I got abscess and the doctor told me that it was cause I mixed oil with water and it is a big no no.
I also have to state that I made the shot really low down in my butt...
Anyway that was not fun!!!!!! Fever and infection and a big cut on my arse... I would risk it again...
I don't see how mixing water and oil will cause an abscess. What likely happened was you got an abscess from the water. Most abscesses come from water based solutions due to bacteria.
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I have been mixing oil gear and b12 in the same pin for 8 weeks and I have had nothing bad from it...............great gains from the gear too.
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I don't see how mixing water and oil will cause an abscess. What likely happened was you got an abscess from the water. Most abscesses come from water based solutions due to bacteria.
Agree, or maybe since he said it was a glute shoot and he "shot low on the butt" that area may not have been clean. Utmost care and cleanliness must be taken for all shots but especially for glute shots. I would not shoot glutes if I could not do it right after taking a shower. Always cover the area after the shot with a bandaid too. Sitting on a toilet seat or just putting on pants you may have already worn can place tons of bacteria on your ass.
If you are buying liquid winny then I would shoot it, just mix it with the prop as you said, those could be some painful shots though. Also another poster here said to use the pin you are gonna shoot with to first drink the winny. I would not do that, WAY to much of a chance to get bacteria on the pin or syringe by sticking it in or close to your mouth for that long. When you uncover your fresh pin to shoot you should not be exposing it to you breathing heavy all over it, again thats how colds are past around and that is the way bacteria and some viruses can get on your crap. This is one reason Dr's wear those masks you see them wear.
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Originally I thought you couldn't mix oil and water then all the getbiggers told me you could; Asked 2 different pros around my area and both thought it was stupid, why bother, and they never had or wouldn't. So my suggestion is don't mix the winny, but rather use the the needle to shoot the winny in your mouth then fill it with your test. Liquid form of winny could be taken orally with same effect.
thats whats i would do, winny can hurt very bad and with it being water based. more prone to infection/bacteria. drink winny if water based and inject the rest, youll be better off lol
muscle
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i wouldn't.
why not?
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As others have said, jeepsters, drink the Winstrol, inject the Prop.
Why inject when you don't need to? ???
DIV
I agree.
Works just fine orally, if not better
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i thought the injections could be EOD since the half life is 48 hours and the oral had to be taken ED since the half life is 8 hours... this is what i found on steroidprofiles.com
anyone do the injections EOD?
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that makes sense... anyone else know this for a fact?
Fact? Draw up some oil and draw up some water, you'll see for yourself. It's hydrophobic, but that doesn't mean that they can't occupy the same syringe. Even if you dump some water and olive oil in a jar, you'll see what happens. It doesn't implode and create a black hole or anything, the water just separates from the oil.
The question I have is why inject the winny? Even if it's human grade, I wouldn't risk using multi draw vials of any water based substance if I didn't have to. I'd say drink the winny or just put it in gelatin capsules if you can't bare the taste. That's one less injection or a lesser volume of injectable solution you have to bang back. I hate pinning. And water based injections aren't something I would want to delve in all too often, especially if it's not necessary.
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I don't see how mixing water and oil will cause an abscess. What likely happened was you got an abscess from the water. Most abscesses come from water based solutions due to bacteria.
Exactly.
Mixing doesn't mean anything.
If the water-based injectible is bacteria laced, of course you're going to have issues when you mix that with another injectible.
Common sense, I would think. ???
DIV
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of course you can mix them..
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i wanted to bump this up...... the winny i will have are powder in glass amps and you have to use the water solution it comes with to mix it, as that being said can a crack a 50mg powder amp and crack 100mg prop, inject into powder a BAM dissolved winny and no water?
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I dunno, i would think no b/c the powder is designed to chemically change at the molecular level into the Winny in liquid (not powder form). Oil is different than water (duh I am not trying to insult you) so common sense tells me no but hey i could be wrong. From my understanding Winny never comes in a oil based form so I would think mixing it with oil based gear would not work.
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I dunno, i would think no b/c the powder is designed to chemically change at the molecular level into the Winny in liquid (not powder form). Oil is different than water (duh I am not trying to insult you) so common sense tells me no but hey i could be wrong. From my understanding Winny never comes in a oil based form so I would think mixing it with oil based gear would not work.
There has been oil based winny. The water and oil thing makes no difference either. And for the guys who use HCG on cycle you could put your HCG in with you gear injects to save on injections.
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There has been oil based winny. The water and oil thing makes no difference either. And for the guys who use HCG on cycle you could put your HCG in with you gear injects to save on injections.
so can it be mixed with test oils without water? and 1-503 shut up
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so can it be mixed with test oils without water?
To be honest I have not heard of winny powder that you mix with a solvent or water, but they may be out there.
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To be honest I have not heard of winny powder that you mix with a solvent or water, but they may be out there.
well i went back to look at the winny and it doesnt show solvent it just shows amps that are lined with white residue.... so i guess they are mixed
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heres the gear tell me if that is powder or liquid
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yea thats liquid winny, its like cloudy looking thats not powder like you would see in a HCG amp. You dont even need to pin with liquid winny i believe, you can take it orally so why even goto the trouble of pining?
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yea thats liquid winny, its like cloudy looking thats not powder like you would see in a HCG amp. You dont even need to pin with liquid winny i believe, you can take it orally so why even goto the trouble of pining?
Because it works better. The initial peak may not be as high, but the half life is longer.