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Title: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: Parker on May 20, 2008, 05:16:37 PM
Nice Movie type video, they had to make it dramatic...

Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: Nordic Superman on May 21, 2008, 04:14:56 AM
Enzo is one of the few Ferraris I don't like so much in red. There was a gun metal grey one in Manchester the other day, it was a right beauty.
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: JasonH on May 21, 2008, 05:16:03 AM
Enzo is one of the few Ferraris I don't like so much in red. There was a gun metal grey one in Manchester the other day, it was a right beauty.

Hopefully it escaped the urine spray from the Rangers fans.  ;D
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: Nordic Superman on May 21, 2008, 05:33:23 AM
Hopefully it escaped the urine spray from the Rangers fans.  ;D

Haha yes, nice of the Rangers fans to take aware our big screen privileges >:(
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: benchmstr on May 21, 2008, 01:23:39 PM
porsche has no class,ferrari by a landslide.

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Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: bigbalddaddy on May 21, 2008, 01:48:33 PM
I own a Dealership and had a GT that I sold.  I've never driven an Enzo but had a few F430's so I would say the Enzo without a doubt since I would take a F430 over the GT...The GT has a stupid clutch that's a pain in the ass to drive.  I've been to Skip Barbers racing school so driver error isn't the issue, it's just a race design and not for daily driving.  An F1 wins all around for pleasure imo...
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: body88 on May 21, 2008, 04:14:47 PM
I own a Dealership and had a GT that I sold.  I've never driven an Enzo but had a few F430's so I would say the Enzo without a doubt since I would take a F430 over the GT...The GT has a stupid clutch that's a pain in the ass to drive.  I've been to Skip Barbers racing school so driver error isn't the issue, it's just a race design and not for daily driving.  An F1 wins all around for pleasure imo...

I'd take a ford GT over both those cars, and I'm a huge fan of all euro cars. Not only is the GT a MONSTER, it has a ton of charector. The GT and the ENZO are overpriced. I don't get a wow factor at all from the Porsche GT, and the Enzo is blah - (imo).

Jermey Clarkson would agree with me  8)




Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: bigbalddaddy on May 21, 2008, 04:25:15 PM
I'd take a ford GT over both those cars, and I'm a huge fan of all euro cars. Not only is the GT a MONSTER, it has a ton of charector. The GT and the ENZO are overpriced. I don't get a wow factor at all from the Porsche GT, and the Enzo is blah - (imo).

Jermey Clarkson would agree with me  8)





Shiiiiit, the Ford GT?  Thats a baaaaad mofo!  I've been in one and they are sick...for the money, hands down!
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: body88 on May 21, 2008, 04:33:11 PM
Yep, I have driven a lot of really fast cars, but the GT is a whole different type of fast. It's faster than most all supercars, it's ultra rare and it's only 150 grand.
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: bigkid on May 22, 2008, 06:36:04 PM
I've never seen something pull this hard.
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: body88 on May 22, 2008, 06:50:36 PM
Nice car, but it has twin turbos on it..... They ruff porsche and Hennassey vipers are amoung the fastest cars ever made. I think the viper has 1200 horse. This viper just rips through all the gears.

Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: Parker on May 22, 2008, 09:32:54 PM
I'd take a ford GT over both those cars, and I'm a huge fan of all euro cars. Not only is the GT a MONSTER, it has a ton of charector. The GT and the ENZO are overpriced. I don't get a wow factor at all from the Porsche GT, and the Enzo is blah - (imo).

Jermey Clarkson would agree with me  8)






The thing about the Enzo, is that it looks llike a big anteater. It was designed (styled by a Japanese guy) and the back end doesn't look like it belongs to the front end. It looks best in black, where it has a preternatural look to it. Supposedly a way more visceral experience than the GT. The Gt is great, but they f-up on it. They (Ford) had finagled a way to get money so that it would be put in production as a 2005 model, but they settled on a supercharged truck engine, while they were doing that, a team was developing a V10. When the GT went in production, they should have had more development on the car, and stuck the V10 in it, but that 600+ HP engine went in the Shelby GR1 Concept car. Then Ford F-uped again by putting the same engine in the Shelby GT500. This took away the exclusivity of that 5.4 supercharged engine.

I also liked the Ford GT90 better than the GT, because t took the design to another level, whereas the GT, designed by Jay Mays, was just a remix of the old GT40.  That Being said, the GT looks best in all black, with black wheels.

I own a Dealership and had a GT that I sold.  I've never driven an Enzo but had a few F430's so I would say the Enzo without a doubt since I would take a F430 over the GT...The GT has a stupid clutch that's a pain in the ass to drive.  I've been to Skip Barbers racing school so driver error isn't the issue, it's just a race design and not for daily driving.  An F1 wins all around for pleasure imo...


Yeah, it's been said that the Carrera GT's clutch is one trick mofo. But there is this Youtube vid of this dude in Saudi Arabia who is racing a M5 and he is drifting all over the place  all over the place like it's video game...you can't do this in the States

 
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: bigkid on May 23, 2008, 05:25:20 AM
Nice car, but it has twin turbos on it..... They ruff porsche and Hennassey vipers are amoung the fastest cars ever made. I think the viper has 1200 horse. This viper just rips through all the gears.


Yeah it has twin turbos, just like the viper you posted and like the ruf porsche.  Whats your point?
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: Parker on May 23, 2008, 06:41:05 AM
I've never seen something pull this hard.


The stock is a roadster, which also means it is heavier, they needed to do coupe versus coupe.
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: bigkid on May 23, 2008, 06:50:13 AM
Its roadster vs roadster.
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2008, 10:07:51 AM
Yeah it has twin turbos, just like the viper you posted and like the ruf porsche.  Whats your point?

I posted the Viper with the turbos after you posted the twin turbo Lambo.... The Enzo the GT are naturally aspirated cars, and while the GT is supercharged the displacement is in the same ballpark as the other cars. Not to mention is has two less cylinders. Comparing a twin turbo V10 to any of those cars is pointless.


My point was that there are much faster twin turbo supercars than that Lambo. I just wanted to show you one that blew my mind. I think the Lambo is a crazy car, just saying.

Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: bigbalddaddy on May 23, 2008, 11:25:37 AM
I posted the Viper with the turbos after you posted the twin turbo Lambo.... The Enzo the GT and the Ford GT are naturally aspirated cars. That's what we where comparing in this thread.

My point was that there are much faster tt supercars than that Lambo. I just wanted to show you one that blew my mind.

Ummmm...the Ford GT is Supercharged not naturally aspirated...sorry, couldn't resist
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2008, 12:23:55 PM
Ummmm...the Ford GT is Supercharged not naturally aspirated...sorry, couldn't resist


My mistake. I meant the GT and the Enzo, while the Ford is supercharged it has roughly the same displacement to weight ratio as the cars in question.

You strap two turbos on a Murcialago v10 and where talking a whole different ballgame.

Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: bigbalddaddy on May 23, 2008, 01:28:51 PM

My mistake. I meant the GT and the Enzo, while the Ford is supercharged it has roughly the same displacement to weight ratio as the cars in question.

You strap two turbos on a Murcialago v10 and where talking a whole different ballgame.



Gotcha...I agree though...there are plenty of cars that can hang or beat the murci that are out there with TT's....I can name at least one here in Vegas...and it's a Viper.  I'll look for a video of it...
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: bigbalddaddy on May 23, 2008, 01:56:53 PM
Ahhhh....here we go.  This guys shop is 3 doors down from mine.  Numbers don't lie...go get that little murci!

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Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2008, 06:43:47 PM
Ahhhh....here we go.  This guys shop is 3 doors down from mine.  Numbers don't lie...go get that little murci!

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Crazy, you get to drive that beast?
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: bigbalddaddy on May 23, 2008, 08:03:46 PM

Crazy, you get to drive that beast?

Are you crazy?  Helllllll no!!!  I ain't gettin in that beast!  Especially with no full cage...
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: Parker on May 23, 2008, 09:21:20 PM
Its roadster vs roadster.
Yeah, your right, i didn't look that hard...
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2008, 10:33:14 PM
Are you crazy?  Helllllll no!!!  I ain't gettin in that beast!  Especially with no full cage...

Haha, the thing prolly idles at 80 mph.....
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: bigkid on May 24, 2008, 07:04:41 AM
I posted the Viper with the turbos after you posted the twin turbo Lambo.... The Enzo the GT are naturally aspirated cars, and while the GT is supercharged the displacement is in the same ballpark as the other cars. Not to mention is has two less cylinders. Comparing a twin turbo V10 to any of those cars is pointless.


My point was that there are much faster twin turbo supercars than that Lambo. I just wanted to show you one that blew my mind. I think the Lambo is a crazy car, just saying.


Oh so you're only talking about N/A supercars?  I mean who really cares?  When you're talking about cars priced at $400,000-1,000,000, no one is going "well yours is faster but mine is naturally aspirated"  Its all about all out speed, no matter how you make it and looks.  I'm also not sure that those other twin turbo cars are faster than the lambo.  Do any of us know what the lambo runs?  All I know i that it pulled on a 1000 hp viper like it was standing still.
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: Parker on May 24, 2008, 07:35:39 AM
Oh so you're only talking about N/A supercars?  I mean who really cares?  When you're talking about cars priced at $400,000-1,000,000, no one is going "well yours is faster but mine is naturally aspirated"  Its all about all out speed, no matter how you make it and looks.  I'm also not sure that those other twin turbo cars are faster than the lambo.  Do any of us know what the lambo runs?  All I know i that it pulled on a 1000 hp viper like it was standing still.

Weight has always been the lambo's undoing, and I'm guessing the weight of that lambo has gone up as well. That Lambo pulled away due to it's AWD system. vipers have alway had a hard time putting their power down. For the amount of HP and Torque a NA Viper has it should be in the mid to low 3's in 0-60 times. Now take a TT Viper or Ford GT. Sometimes more power ain't the answer but more balance and control. Remember the tag line, "What's power without control". Never the less, it was a beautiful site and sound to watch that clip again.

But Lambo's have never excelled at the track, even the  ones with factory support.Getting their asses handed to them by C5R and C6R Corvettes.

But, of all the extreme cars it has to be the Ferrari FXX, and it's power upgrade package. Schuey's got a special Darth Vader black one with matte black exhausts.
Title: Re: Ferrari Enzo vs.Porsche Carrera GT
Post by: body88 on May 24, 2008, 12:32:43 PM
Oh so you're only talking about N/A supercars?  I mean who really cares?  When you're talking about cars priced at $400,000-1,000,000, no one is going "well yours is faster but mine is naturally aspirated"  Its all about all out speed, no matter how you make it and looks.  I'm also not sure that those other twin turbo cars are faster than the lambo.  Do any of us know what the lambo runs?  All I know i that it pulled on a 1000 hp viper like it was standing still.


Lambos are very fast, I think the Merc is a bit heavy tho. My brother in law has a Gallardo. It's like a little pit bull, I like it better than the big Lambo.