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Clinton refers to RFK assassination when defending her decision to stay in race.
She pointed out that Bobby Kennedy was assassinagted in June.
AP: She's making the case that she should stay in the race because something like that might happen. One of the reasons she is giving to continue to campaign into June.
later - she clarified her position when in hot water - apologized for the comments.
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Clinton refers to RFK assassination when defending her decision to stay in race.
She pointed out that Bobby Kennedy was assassinagted in June.
AP: She's making the case that she should stay in the race because something like that might happen. One of the reasons she is giving to continue to campaign into June.
later - she clarified her position when in hot water - apologized for the comments.
That is absurd! I saw that interview and what she was doing was referencing a historical marker to point out that there is nothing unusual about democratic primary races continuing into June. In the same breath she also made reference to the fact that Bill Clinton had not secured the nomination by June either.
Talk about a non-story.
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She'll get hammered for it. These idiots all knew what she ment. Does anybody think she'd come out and say "I have to stay in because barry is black and might get shot"...she wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole. She ment it like BayGBM mentioned.
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hilary is a political machine.
everything she says is rehearsed and calculated. she wanted to plant the idea out there, no doubt about that. NBC reporting she said something similar in March - I don't konw that exact quote.
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That is absurd! I saw that interview and what she was doing was referencing a historical marker to point out that there is nothing unusual about democratic primary races continuing into June. In the same breath she also made reference to the fact that Bill Clinton had not secured the nomination by June either.
Talk about a non-story.
So, she didn't reference the RFK assassination?
If what you're saying is true, then why did she apologize for doing so?
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I can't believe that she would make a comment like that, but it just speaks to her own arrogance and sense of entitlement.
If I didn't know any better, I would say that was a veiled threat to Obama.
When JFK Jr. died, there was NO ONE ELSE expecting to pose a real challenge for the Senate seat in 2000 or for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2008. Americans mistakenly believe that presidential politics are a game we play every 4 years, not taking into account that the planning, positioning, and influence peddling for a single White House run starts many years beforehand.
When the Clintons first came to power in 1992, the sentiment among many young conservatives on campuses all across America was that Hillary wanted to be the 'real' President and that Bill was merely an effective patsy and orator to get her into the White House.
Yes, people were bothered that her 'solution' for health care reform meant a turn to socialism. But because her position was so out of line with what America was willing to compromise on, people became really turned off to her because she would not shut up. Instead of doing the things 'a First Lady is supposed to do', she was busy trying to write legislation and having political rivals offed (Starbucks, anyone?).
People have talked a lot about the potential danger to Obama should he win the nomination, so while it's something I know he's thought about, I wonder if he's considered - even for a moment - that the biggest threat to his personal safety is someone he's praised publicly these last several months.
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That is absurd! I saw that interview and what she was doing was referencing a historical marker to point out that there is nothing unusual about democratic primary races continuing into June. In the same breath she also made reference to the fact that Bill Clinton had not secured the nomination by June either.
Talk about a non-story.
you sir, are a fucking idiot
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until yesterday, I strongly believed that hilary had earned the capital to win the VP slot. She and obama had different groups, and I doubted there would be a 'subtractive' effect where people didn't choose obama because they disliked hilary.
that has changed now.
she cannot be on the ticket now, and she did it to herself. this is something her campaign cannot recover from, and she's out of it for 2012 and 2016 as well now. hilary just defeated hilary. and they're right... she's said this 4 times now, using the a-word twice. She has mulled this over in her mind. With the pain this nation has been thru with so many assasination attempts, you CANNOT use the threat of possible events as political capital. hilary just lost herself the VP slot.
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Clinton apologists are saying that it wasn't intentional.
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Clinton apologists are saying that it wasn't intentional.
Of course they are. ::)
Their candidate just shit all over herself and they are trying to clean it up.
Mentioning assassination three times in the last three months when you have the first serious black candidate attempting to win the white house is not a coincidence. She is Satan and should be run over by a truck.
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She has said this previously, this wasn't the first time. She was speaking of a timeline and why she shouldn't drop out yet. We can speculate all we want about other motives she had, which are possible, but certainly none of it is founded. The comment was specifically referenced around her being in the campaign this late. What she said should not have caused this much media attention. I think Obama supporters are reaching on this one.
Tre, I can't say your wrong and your post is well thought out as usual, but the comment alone does not suggest this...until everyone got up in arms & brought it out like this. No one in the room she said it in thought anything of it. The attention came later when a NY Post reporter speculated on her intent behind the statement.
The media has been harsh on Hillary...maybe she deserves it...but they really have.
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Here's an article from 'my favorite feminist', Camille Paglia:
Hillary Clinton's candidacy has done feminism no favours
By Camille Paglia
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When the dust settles over the 2008 election, will Hillary Clinton have helped or hindered women's advance toward the US presidency?
Right now, Hillary is in Godzilla mode, refusing to accept Barack Obama's looming nomination and threatening to tie the Democratic party in legal knots until the August convention and beyond.
Those who think she will withdraw gracefully in a few weeks are living in cloud cuckoo land. The Clintons are ruthless scrappers who will lock their bulldog teeth in any bloody towel.
In her raw ambition and stubborn, grinding energy, Hillary will certainly cast a long shadow on young women aspiring to high office. She is both inspiring role model and cringe-making bad example — an overtly feminist careerist who never found a way to succeed without her husband's connections, advice, and intervention.
FULL STORY (http://"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/05/24/do2411.xml")
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She has said this previously, this wasn't the first time. She was speaking of a timeline and why she shouldn't drop out yet. We can speculate all we want about other motives she had, which are possible, but certainly none of it is founded. The comment was specifically referenced around her being in the campaign this late. What she said should not have caused this much media attention. I think Obama supporters are reaching on this one.
Tre, I can't say your wrong and your post is well thought out as usual, but the comment alone does not suggest this...until everyone got up in arms & brought it out like this. No one in the room she said it in thought anything of it. The attention came later when a NY Post reporter speculated on her intent behind the statement.
The media has been harsh on Hillary...maybe she deserves it...but they really have.
Give me a fucking break.
I know you are in love your boyfriend Tre, but... ::)
You have NO IDEA of the outrage her statements are causing in the black community. I am listening to the #1 black radio show in NYC right now, and the community is furious. Not to mention how many whites feel...I guess you missed Keith Olbermann's special commentary as well, eh Shootfighter? ::)
If something happens to Barack, I'm telling you right now Hillary Clinton will be held partially responsible for the racially divisive atmosphere she has caused during this democratic campaign. >:(
The media is going to let this story die...but some of us will NEVER forget her using the word assassination in the context of Obama in this race. She could have referred to the '80 campaign between Carter and Kennedy, the '84 campaign between Hart and Mondale...but no, she had to mention the RFK assassination. What a bitch.
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Benny - read the article from Paglia. She talks about Hillary playing the victim card.
I agree with those who argue that she's been given essentially a free pass, as NO ONE has talked about her sketchy past.
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Here's an article from 'my favorite feminist', Camille Paglia:
Hillary Clinton's candidacy has done feminism no favours
By Camille Paglia
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When the dust settles over the 2008 election, will Hillary Clinton have helped or hindered women's advance toward the US presidency?
Right now, Hillary is in Godzilla mode, refusing to accept Barack Obama's looming nomination and threatening to tie the Democratic party in legal knots until the August convention and beyond.
Those who think she will withdraw gracefully in a few weeks are living in cloud cuckoo land. The Clintons are ruthless scrappers who will lock their bulldog teeth in any bloody towel.
In her raw ambition and stubborn, grinding energy, Hillary will certainly cast a long shadow on young women aspiring to high office. She is both inspiring role model and cringe-making bad example — an overtly feminist careerist who never found a way to succeed without her husband's connections, advice, and intervention.
FULL STORY (http://"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/05/24/do2411.xml")
Hillary's done nothing but hurt women's chances at the presidency. Right now there are female governors and a woman third in line from the Oval Office. It will happen one day. But it will now take a woman far less polarizing and frankly less diabolical for it to become a reality.
I keep saying it, but I really hope Obama picks Sebelius as his running mate. I need to know a bit more about her background and whether she could help him win KS and she needs to be vetted, but she appears to be a great choice. It would certainly buttress some of the femi-nazis who feel Hillary is a "victim" entitled to the presidency.
EDIT: Tre, the above statements were made prior to your last post. I will read Paglia's article. I like her and I think she's usually brilliant. She is not the only woman who feels Hillary has hurt the feminist cause.
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Of course they are. ::)
Their candidate just shit all over herself and they are trying to clean it up.
Mentioning assassination three times in the last three months when you have the first serious black candidate attempting to win the white house is not a coincidence. She is Satan and should be run over by a truck.
LOL, Benny it's not that bad.
I did not know she said it 3 times this month? Tell me more plz?
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She is Satan
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LOL, Benny it's not that bad.
I did not know she said it 3 times this month? Tell me more plz?
Ok, she should be run over by a Toyota Prius, as that would be better for the environment. ;D
I really do think her statements are that bad.
Hillary did not make all three references to RFK's assassination this month CQ, but over the last two to three months. One was in an interview she did for TIME magazine that I understand came out in March.
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she said it 4 times since march. twice using the A-word, the other two times saying RFK's name without the A-word.
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You have to wonder about the character of a person who would seek to use the tragedies of others for political gain.
The sad part is that there are still millions of Americans who think this is acceptable...just as they thought it was perfectably acceptable for Clinton I to sleep with interns and keep his job, while people in the private sector could lose their jobs, be forced to pay damages, etc.
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Thanks Benny and 240 - I did not know that.
This changes my opinion, I was thinking it was being blown out of proportion like the whole "Bittergate" [::)]
That is most uncool.
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She was trying to get one of her supporters to kill Obama, it's plain as day. She is an evil woman who hates colored folk.
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I don't know if it's about race.
More than anything else, it's likely because she sees Obama as the only man in the world standing in her way of being the most powerful person on Earth.
Hilary is used to getting her way. It's not happening here.
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More than anything else, it's likely because she sees Obama as the only man in the world standing in her way of being the most powerful person on Earth.
Hilary is used to getting her way. It's not happening here.
You saw what happened to JFK Jr., right?
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yeah. I don't buy into any conspiracy there. Sure, there were parties on both sides of the aisle that didn't want JFK jr winning in 2000. Many people say Bush was behind it as well. We'll never know. He flew into bad weather. Yes, odd how it went down. yes, odd how rescue operations were stalled. But we'll never know.
I find it odd that you can believe someone would kill him to keep him from running, but you don't believe 911 would be allowed to happen to gain control of, well, $50 trillion worth of middle east oil ;)
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I don't underestimate the lengths Hillary would go to be elected, as you guys have pointed out. However, I believe many are being over sensitive.
I agree that Hillary is not the best example for women leaders, although she is smart and strong, she is harsh and not very likeable.
Blanco...hahaha. Tre is able to see things logically in many of these debates...whereas you tend to be very emotional, looking from a single perspective. Plus his career focuses on hot chicks, which is just f'n amazing.
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She was trying to get one of her supporters to kill Obama, it's plain as day. She is an evil woman who hates colored folk.
Haha Danny - you have a flair for the dramatic.
Maybe I am naive, but I honestly don't ether she or Bill are racist. I think they are desperate to get back in, yes and will use anything they can - but inherently racist, I honestly do not think that. I think she would not be too upset if Barack did 'dissapear' though.
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Blanco...hahaha. Tre is able to see things logically in many of these debates...whereas you tend to be very emotional, looking from a single perspective. Plus his career focuses on hot chicks, which is just f'n amazing.
Send your boyfriend my regards. :-*
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No big surprise. The reason is because this is politics and people always are attempting to start a scandal in order to advance their cause of jockeying for position to see who's going to control the tone that is set by who is in office currently. Bill Clinton's wife is only saying that despite a candidate's popularity, it usually takes him to a uncertain outcome regardless of how appealing his supporters make him to the undecided voters.
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Give me a fucking break.
I know you are in love your boyfriend Tre, but... ::)
You have NO IDEA of the outrage her statements are causing in the black community. I am listening to the #1 black radio show in NYC right now, and the community is furious. Not to mention how many whites feel...I guess you missed Keith Olbermann's special commentary as well, eh Shootfighter? ::)
If something happens to Barack, I'm telling you right now Hillary Clinton will be held partially responsible for the racially divisive atmosphere she has caused during this democratic campaign. >:(
The media is going to let this story die...but some of us will NEVER forget her using the word assassination in the context of Obama in this race. She could have referred to the '80 campaign between Carter and Kennedy, the '84 campaign between Hart and Mondale...but no, she had to mention the RFK assassination. What a bitch.
I am waiting for THEM to try and start their next riot act over their black rage in politics. Why are minorities feeling so offended about Obama being hurt by Hillary's words when they had a accepting attitude about what was said about Tiger Woods many months ago?
They are the types of people that are willing to defend the success of their problem profiteer poverty race hustlers, while telling anyone else with a complaint to pretend to ignore stereotypes and be very tolerant of the street stars that rap and act in the entertainment industry.
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hilary is a political machine.
everything she says is rehearsed and calculated.
exactly. she is by far the fakest of the candidates.
oh and about this latest story, ive been saying this forever how ruthless this woman is!!