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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: m8 on May 24, 2008, 11:24:05 AM
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(http://www.flexonline.com/photogalleries/dorianyates/images/yates_01.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/photogalleries/dorianyates/images/yates_05.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/photogalleries/dorianyates/images/yates_13.jpg)
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(http://www.joe0.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Dorian-Yates-1.jpg)
Sure thing. :D
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compared to other pros yeah he did.
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First pic is the definition of hardcore. 8)
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First pic is the definition of hardcore. 8)
I like his videos where he screams while doing cable pushdowns.
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they were not small in terms of absolute numbers, just very small for his giant keg torso.
they belonged on a 210 pounder, not a 265 pounder..
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Dorain had great balance when it came to arms and legs..
Big arms coupled with BIG forearms
Big Legs coupled with King Kong Calves
This flows overall much better than a guy with huge thighs but tiny calves, or Huge upper arms but tiny forearms
Also, I would say Dorian is one of the strongest pros. his form is impeccable.
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LOL
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Dorain had great balance when it came to arms and legs..
Big arms coupled with BIG forearms
Big Legs coupled with King Kong Calves
This flows overall much better than a guy with huge thighs but tiny calves, or Huge upper arms but tiny forearms
Also, I would say Dorian is one of the strongest pros. his form is impeccable.
:)
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:)
Complete from head to toe.
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Tiny arms here (Look at his left forearm!!!! wow)
Seriously imagine if a pro released this pic 3 weeks out in the year 2008. People would be worshipping him.
(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/61/Dorian%20Yates_196205.jpg)
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Hulkster and co, I know you guys love Ronnie, but claiming Yates had small arms is retarded. His arms where prolly bigger than your thighs. I dont understand this infatuation you have with talking about Yates, and his keg torso. We know he was blocky, and on the flipside, Ronnie had the largest distended gut I have ever seen. Not to mention, he has calves that belonge on a 210 pounder. IMO, both Yates and Ronnie ruined the sport, but some of these claims you make are pretty far out there.
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Hulkster and co, I know you guys love Ronnie, but claiming Yates had small arms is retarded. His arms where prolly bigger than your thighs.
Small compared to his wide torso and other body parts. Look at how his biceps vanish during the back double biceps.
And they were smaller compared to guys like Levrone, Nasser, Taylor, Dillet and others.
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Small compared to his wide torso and other body parts. Look at how his biceps vanish during the back double biceps.
And they were smaller compared to guys like Levrone, Nasser, Taylor, Dillet and others.
All those guys had bodyparts that lagged behind other ones. For example, Dillet had no back to speak of. When Nasser turned around, he was a different bodybuilder, Colman's calves don't mach his quads, and Levrone had his issues over the years with his legs. It's all relative.
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Dorain had great balance when it came to arms and legs..
Eliminate his torso and that would be great! :-\
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Tiny arms here (Look at his left forearm!!!! wow)
Seriously imagine if a pro released this pic 3 weeks out in the year 2008. People would be worshipping him.
(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/61/Dorian%20Yates_196205.jpg)
For sure.
One of the best FDB of all time right here.
I wasn't a fan at first but now I completely agree with Narcissistic.
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every bber has some weakness.
why is yates arms the only bodypart mentioned by everyone?
every bber will have some defficiency in a bodypart.
why not talk about ronnie's calves or abs which ruin most shots, where as yates' arms look great in most shots - side tri, side chest, abs and thigh, etc.
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he still looks pretty good.
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All those guys had bodyparts that lagged behind other ones. For example, Dillet had no back to speak of.
The usual incomplete argument, given that they all had weakness & that Dillet had fewer than others. Unlike the others he was virtually perfect except for the back issue, and even there he had decent width it was more the lack of detail.
In the color shot it's quite obvious that Dillet had good lat width as well as overpowering Yates everywhere else too.
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I think there are a lot of blacks or ronnie muscle worshippers on this site. Yates has weak points like all the rest but he was an astonishing specimen at his best. quite simply the best there has ever been.
must eat some of you up that he is white, English and reserved.
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In that first shot Yates was pressing the arms against the torso, creating the illusion of greater size. Anyone who doesn't realize that doesn't know much. And that was off-season at bulkier size.
Here's that great size (1) in contest shape, (2) without arms pressed against sides lol
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I think there are a lot of blacks or ronnie muscle worshippers on this site. Yates has weak points like all the rest but he was an astonishing specimen at his best. quite simply the best there has ever been.
must eat some of you up that he is white, English and reserved.
Epic racist generalization lol
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every bber has some weakness.
why is yates arms the only bodypart mentioned by everyone?
every bber will have some defficiency in a bodypart.
Because arms are several muscles and are some of the few "show" muscles that most previous great BBs have great development in, see Larry Scott, Schwarzenegger, Oliva, etc.
Smallish arms + wide waist = powerlifter type physique, just as Schwarzenegger talked about in the 90s, not classic BB. A nice protype for Cutler.
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For sure.
One of the best FDB of all time right here.
I wasn't a fan at first but now I completely agree with Narcissistic.
Dorian at his prime was one of the best ever, no doubt but Ronnie was even better.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie13.jpg)
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Epic racist generalization lol
whatever, Leroy
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That first Yates pic is sick
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Dorian at his prime was one of the best ever, no doubt but Ronnie was even better.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie13.jpg)
Yates 93 beats him. Sorry, to upset you . you can still look at Ronnie in his pink panties but just remember, Dorian 93 wins
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(http://blogmuscle.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/dorian2.jpg)
his calves are ridiculous.
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Smallish arms + wide waist = powerlifter type physique, just as Schwarzenegger talked about in the 90s, not classic BB. A nice protype for Cutler.
def. not a classic build on yates - so what.
he would have beaten on stage (where it counts) any "classic" type build.
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy39.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy27.jpg)
not many other's have arms that rival yates in the side tricep shot - there goes your theory about "great arm development on prestigous bbers" or whatever the fuck you meant. all you really meant was the front double bi.
let's see scott and olivia stand next to yates in the side tricep shot - arms only.
exactly.
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(http://blogmuscle.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/dorian2.jpg)
his calves are ridiculous.
Yup calves and Forearms still big now
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(http://blogmuscle.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/dorian2.jpg)
his calves are ridiculous.
They're pushing against the sofa, but yes, they're some of the best ever.
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Hulkster and co, I know you guys love Ronnie, but claiming Yates had small arms is retarded. His arms where prolly bigger than your thighs. I dont understand this infatuation you have with talking about Yates, and his keg torso. We know he was blocky, and on the flipside, Ronnie had the largest distended gut I have ever seen. Not to mention, he has calves that belonge on a 210 pounder. IMO, both Yates and Ronnie ruined the sport, but some of these claims you make are pretty far out there.
no one has ever said dorian had small arms.
no doubt they are massive.
but relative to his frame, they are undersized.
we are talking about proportions here.
eg. nasser has a 'keg torso' too, but had bigger arms to compensate:
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no one has ever said dorian had small arms.
no doubt they are massive.
but relative to his frame, they are undersized.
we are talking about proportions here.
eg. nasser has a 'keg torso' too, but had bigger arms to compensate:
Posting favorable pictures does not prove your point. It's clear Yates has not yet flexed his muscles fully, and Nasser is flexing. You and pump have a tendancy to post the worst pictures you can find of Yates - when trying to prove your points.
You talk so much about proportions, how about Ronnie's cavs and distended stomach?
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Posting favorable pictures does not prove your point. It's clear Yates has not yet flexed his muscles fully, and Nasser is flexing. You and pump have a tendancy to post the worst pictures you can find of Yates - when trying to prove your points.
You talk so much about proportions, how about Ronnie's cavs and distended stomach?
LMAO
worst pictures I can find? hardly.
more like the only pictures I can find LOL
you can make all the excuses you want but the fact is that dorian had torso/arm proportion issues.
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but relative to his frame, they are undersized.
we are talking about proportions here.
eg. nasser has a 'keg torso' too, but had bigger arms to compensate:
Apparently proportionality is too complicated for some minds here lol
Just as Arnold said, the blocky waist and smallisth armz are not a classic/desirable BB look. :-X
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Hulkster and Pumpster's real names are actually Rakim and Leroy.
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LMAO
worst pictures I can find? hardly.
more like the only pictures I can find LOL
you can make all the excuses you want but the fact is that dorian had torso/arm proportion issues.
I don't know how many times I have to tell you this, I am not a fan of Ronnie or Yates. I admitted that yates was blocky in my first post ??? My point is that you spend countless hours every day bashing Yates, yet your idol Ronnie Coleman has a gigantic distended stomach, and terrible calves that do not mach his body. IMO Coleman is one of the reasons bodybuilding is a joke today.
You act like Yates was the worst bodybuilder to ever walk the earth, and it's simply laughable. Hulkster, your not fooling anyone, every time I see you posting pictures of Yates, they are the worst pictures you could find.
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he still looks pretty good.
Uhhhhhh, sorry to break this to you, but he hasn't competed in 11 years???? ::)
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Dorian at his prime was one of the best ever, no doubt but Ronnie was even better.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie13.jpg)
All triceps in that shot and honestly, not a very pleasing physique on Ronnie.
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Uhhhhhh, sorry to break this to you, but he hasn't competed in 11 years???? ::)
that's the point you dumb fuck. he looks good for someone who hasn't. fuck me some of you are some thick pieces of trailer trash garbage ;D
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no one has ever said dorian had small arms.
no doubt they are massive.
but relative to his frame, they are undersized.
we are talking about proportions here.
eg. nasser has a 'keg torso' too, but had bigger arms to compensate:
Dorian's arms were surperior to Nasser's AND Ronie's. Sorry, Duckster, but forearms and triceps ARE part of the arm too.
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that's the point you dumb fuck. he looks good for someone who hasn't. fuck me some of you are some thick pieces of trailer trash garbage ;D
EPIC MELTDOWN, or do you not know what that is newbie, seeing you've only been on this site for 7 days!! BTW, next time only speak when you are being spoken to. I quoted Mars's post, NOT yours newbie.
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All triceps in that shot and honestly, not a very pleasing physique on Ronnie.
ha ha ha, wtf? That's like saying Dorian is "all calves" in the B&W front double biceps pic. What criteria are you using when you say Ronnie's physique isn't pleasing? Dorian looks like a blocky powerlifter who dieted for a bodybuilding contest. Ronnie has better symmetry, taper, definition, and more mass.
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no one has ever said dorian had small arms.
no doubt they are massive.
but relative to his frame, they are undersized.
we are talking about proportions here.
eg. nasser has a 'keg torso' too, but had bigger arms to compensate:
agree - for the most part.
in some shots, yates arm's look fine - proportional, size, etc. - like in the side tricep, abs and thighs, and even side chest.
in some shots, they look small compared to his torso.
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Shit Yates and Gay Hitler are the most gifted BBs ever.
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they were not small in terms of absolute numbers, just very small for his giant keg torso.
they belonged on a 210 pounder, not a 265 pounder..
You're right. Dorian's torso must've grown from all the machine pullovers he did. In Jay's newest DVD he says that he makes sure to always improve his arms in proportion to his back because he says Yates let his back get too big and didn't keep his arms in proportion. I guess there's a balance where if your back is too big your arms will really suffer.
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that's the point you dumb fuck. he looks good for someone who hasn't. fuck me some of you are some thick pieces of trailer trash garbage ;D
Haha, isn't that true.
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You're right. Dorian's torso must've grown from all the machine pullovers he did. In Jay's newest DVD he says that he makes sure to always improve his arms in proportion to his back because he says Yates let his back get too big and didn't keep his arms in proportion. I guess there's a balance where if your back is too big your arms will really suffer.
i dont think its that cut and dry.
yates always said biceps were his worst bodypart which is mostly due to genetics.
the tearing of it in 94 didnt help.
regardless of training, there's only so much you can do.
no matter what, ronnie would never (and never did) have calves like yates, matarazzo, etc.
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EPIC MELTDOWN, or do you not know what that is newbie, seeing you've only been on this site for 7 days!! BTW, next time only speak when you are being spoken to. I quoted Mars's post, NOT yours newbie.
Yeah, this "SweetMuscle" is a real douche..suddenly appears while Squad is laying low..claims to have trolled this board for 3 years but never post..he knew SF would eat his lunch and shitcan him if he acted like this weeks ago when SF was still around ::)Get lost
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This shot is simply mindblowing, best ever
(http://www.flexonline.com/photogalleries/dorianyates/images/yates_05.jpg)
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Wao !!! In this particular pose Dorian blows Ronnie away ! perhaps just the only pose that from head to toe, he takes Ron.
(http://www.flexonline.com/photogalleries/dorianyates/images/yates_05.jpg)
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I don't know how many times I have to tell you this, I am not a fan of Ronnie or Yates. I admitted that yates was blocky in my first post ??? My point is that you spend countless hours every day bashing Yates, yet your idol Ronnie Coleman has a gigantic distended stomach, and terrible calves that do not mach his body. IMO Coleman is one of the reasons bodybuilding is a joke today.
You act like Yates was the worst bodybuilder to ever walk the earth, and it's simply laughable. Hulkster, your not fooling anyone, every time I see you posting pictures of Yates, they are the worst pictures you could find.
yes, because all these great shots from Muscletime of dorian's wins are 'the worst we could find'
LOL ::)
what you fail to realize is the reason that dorian gets owned in so many shots from the front is that he was nothing special from the front.
plain and simple.,
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yes, because all these great shots from Muscletime of dorian's wins are 'the worst we could find'
LOL ::)
what you fail to realize is the reason that dorian gets owned in so many shots from the front is that he was nothing special from the front.
plain and simple.,
I'm not talking about those shots exclusively. It's pretty clear that whenever you are critiquing Yates, you post the worst pictures you can find. One look at the truce thread is all you need to see this fact. You are still avoiding this simple fact - Ronnie Coleman has calves that do not match his quads, and one of the worst distended stomaches of all time. Recent pictures of Ronnie show these flaws clearly, as well as several torn muscles.
I don't have an axe to grind. Both Yates and Coleman are not my cup of tea. You however, are far from fair when you compare the two, plain and simple. I'm not going to waste my time posting pictures of Ronnie with his gut hanging out.
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I'm not talking about those shots exclusively. It's pretty clear that whenever you are critiquing Yates, you post the worst pictures you can find. One look at the truce thread is all you need to see this fact. You are still avoiding this simple fact - Ronnie Coleman has calves that do not match his quads, and one of the worst distended stomaches of all time. Recent pictures of Ronnie show these flaws clearly, as well as several torn muscles.
I don't have an axe to grind. Both Yates and Coleman are not my cup of tea. You however, are far from fair when you compare the two, plain and simple. I'm not going to waste my time posting pictures of Ronnie with his gut hanging out.
To point out what a flawed champion he was.
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To point out what a flawed champion he was.
Could you do the same to Ronnie over his stomach and calves? Like I said, I dont favor either bb, I think that Yates was better than Hulkster gives him credit for. I mean, as far a mass monster go...
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Yates was a disgusting, torn up piece of shit. he traded on 93 and the fact he blew the judges and the IFBB didn't want another black guy winning after Haney and making it look like a 'black' sport. he was beaten many times by Flex, Ray and, of course, most obviously by Nasser. '
a puss filled stain on the ass of bodyvbuilding is the Yates creature
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Yates was a disgusting, torn up piece of shit. he traded on 93 and the fact he blew the judges and the IFBB didn't want another black guy winning after Haney and making it look like a 'black' sport. he was beaten many times by Flex, Ray and, of course, most obviously by Nasser. '
a puss filled stain on the ass of bodyvbuilding is the Yates creature
Hahaha, you missed the party :D
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Hahaha, you missed the party :D
On aurais du exterminer ces cretins de l'Afrique du Nord une fois pour toute >:(
Est-ce que les problem de Ghetto Tunisiens/Marocains/Algeriens sont encore aussi problematique? >:(
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On aurais du exterminer ces cretins de l'Afrique du Nord une fois pour toute >:(
Est-ce que les problem de Ghetto Tunisiens/Marocains/Algeriens sont encore aussi problematique? >:(
Ouaip :-\
Mais je le trouve plutôt divertissant ce Sharma, il dit tout le temps les mêmes conneries ;D
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Ouaip :-\
Mais je le trouve plutôt divertissant ce Sharma ;D
Une grande lignee de pur sangs qui ont conquerit la grandeur de l'Europe a plusieurs reprises est a risque.... n'oublions pas les croisades ;D
Je trouve ca repugnant qu'un gouvernement socialist laisse degenerer la situation de cette facon... :-\
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Les Negroes du Sand. C'est terrible.
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Les Negroes du Sand. C'est terrible.
Negres de Sable.... but that's the thought that counts ;D
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Negres de Sable.... but that's the thought that counts ;D
Exactement! Désolé, Ma Francais est tres mal.
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Matt C considers both Dorian and Ronnie to be strawmen.
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hey sharma,
just so you know, nasser is not a muslim.
hope this helps.
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hey sharma,
just so you know, nasser is not a muslim.
hope this helps.
Don't crush his dream IceCold.
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Yates was a disgusting, torn up piece of shit. he traded on 93 and the fact he blew the judges and the IFBB didn't want another black guy winning after Haney and making it look like a 'black' sport. he was beaten many times by Flex, Ray and, of course, most obviously by Nasser. '
a puss filled stain on the ass of bodyvbuilding is the Yates creature
Yates looks like the first victim of palumboism there.
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Could you do the same to Ronnie over his stomach and calves? Like I said, I dont favor either bb, I think that Yates was better than Hulkster gives him credit for. I mean, as far a mass monster go...
of course we could focus on ronnie's calves and stomach.
but those are minor flaws when you consider that dorian's whole front side was a flaw: 8)
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Tiny arms here (Look at his left forearm!!!! wow)
Seriously imagine if a pro released this pic 3 weeks out in the year 2008. People would be worshipping him.
(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/61/Dorian%20Yates_196205.jpg)
not even ronnie had this type of grainy look to him!
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Tiny arms here (Look at his left forearm!!!! wow)
Seriously imagine if a pro released this pic 3 weeks out in the year 2008. People would be worshipping him.
(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/61/Dorian%20Yates_196205.jpg)
This photo still reeks havoc in the minds of all 1990's IFBB pros. They most likely still have nightmares today because of it.
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This photo still reeks havoc in the minds of all 1990's IFBB pros. They most likely still have nightmares today because of it.
Not one muscle group missing... Dorian at his prime is pretty much untouchable!
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Holy shit! Look at his LATS popping out from the front!
(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/61/Dorian%20Yates_196144.jpg)
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(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/61/Dorian%20Yates_61304.jpg)
(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/61/Dorian%20Yates_61289.jpg)
(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/61/Dorian%20Yates_61287.jpg)
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Holy shit! Look at his LATS popping out from the front!
(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/61/Dorian%20Yates_196144.jpg)
I am still amazed at the smoothness and lack of detail.. :-\
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This is what Sharma really wants to say
Nasser was a disgusting, bloated piece of shit. The fact is he blew Joe and Ben Weider and the rest of the schmoes the Weiders lined up for him and still failed miserably. He was beaten many times by Flex, Ray and, of course, most obviously by Dorian. He is now beaten by LIFE on a daily basis which led to his retirement and shame.
a puss filled stain on the ass of bodyvbuilding is the Nasser creature
(http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/5/26/dalkiel/f_vlcsnap8402m_714f87e.png)
(http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/4/5/26/dalkiel/f_indexCAm_7daa1fb.jpg)
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Nasser was a disgusting, bloated piece of shit. The fact is he blew Joe and Ben Weider and the rest of the schmoes the Weiders lined up for him and still failed miserably.
Ok so uncle joe preferred the keg's white meat. :-*
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Ok so uncle joe preferred the keg's white meat. :-*
I guess Brit McGough "handled" Dorians ....."account" :D.
Who knows - maybe Joey W had a "hand" in it.
Dorian probably didnt reek of desperation (and Oil) like Nasser did ;)
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Ok so uncle joe preferred the keg's white meat. :-*
His gut is pretty minuscule considering the angle, the way he's completely relaxed and the year the picture was taken...
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His wife threatened to expose him him once she discovered that Nasser was pregnant with Ben's baby. ;D
(http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/5/26/f_vlcsnap3959m_6ecaec4.png)
Nassers mood swings during the later stages of pregnancy had disasterous effects on his marriage.
(http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/4/5/26/f_wifem_4e324bb.jpg)
She never recovered. Neither did he - placing 15th before retiring in shame.
BUT....fear not true fans of Nasser. He has started a new relationship....with the surgery table. This relationship will be an ongoing affair until his imminent death at 48.
(http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/4/4/7/dalkiel/f_drobson322fm_35565ca.jpg)
Send your "PLEASE DIE ALREADY" e-cards to Nasshole@Always-a-loser.com
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Dorian Yates had small arms
No, Dorian's arms were over 20" in contest shape. That is big even by Olympia standards.
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Dorain had great balance when it came to arms and legs..
Big arms coupled with BIG forearms
Big Legs coupled with King Kong Calves
Notice he left out the torso in the equation lol
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every bber has some weakness.
why is yates arms the only bodypart mentioned by everyone?
Duh! Because the flaws in other BBs are the standard rationalizations as to why they lost you idiot lol