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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Matt C on May 26, 2008, 12:31:59 PM
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Feel free to ask me anything in here. I will answer in a frank and candid manner as I always do (less clutter if it is in here though).
I don't want the M3 thread to continue on as a political discussion. So I will import some comments here:
I wasn`t inferring that drug addiction was a crime,I was refferring to the crimes that they commit many times in order to obtain the money to get drugs...........involves theft usually.
I think rehab is waranted also but if someone steals your car to sell it for drugs and wrecks it,they usually don`t consider re-hab as a first choice for punishment.
Most drug addicts are repeat offenders, and at times in the act of a theft to obtain money for drugs,innocent people get hurt just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Far from victimless,think of the people adversely affected directly or indirectly by just one heroin addict.
Yes, but the only reason why drugs cost so much to begin with is because they are prohibited. If they were not illegal, they would cost less and people wouldn't need to steal to get drugs, or at least not steal as much. Would lower prices result in a subsequent rise in drug use? It's possible. But the drug industry is already bigger than Wal-Mart and does no advertising, LOL. So I find it hard to believe that people would use even more drugs, but I never said full legalization was the answer, merely that prohibition is a total failure.
Have you ever seen a heroin addict with a $500.00 a day habit?
I have, and no amount of drugs the government could/would supply them is gonna` be enough to compensate for the magnitude of their addiction.
Re-habs work,I`ve been in one myself,but they only work if the addict wants to recover.
I do however agree with you on the organized crime and drug cartels becoming more powerful and rich from drug sales,but in reality,the government will never legalize deadly drug use in any setting.
I will agree with Nordic Beast on this. As for the heroin addict you speak of, yes they do indeed exist and I've seen it. However, they are in the minority, generally speaking (even among addicts). For them, there is no helping them though.
1.One of the main reasons drugs are illegal is due to them making people into zombies. Who will want to go and work when he can be high all day long on free government supplied drugs?
Are you saying that if drugs were free that you would consume more of them? I definitely would not. I think most people would not. It's not like it would open the floodgates or anything.
Now the dealing with drugs is far from being so simple that me and you will just find the solution in two posts on Getbig ::)
I agree. I don't proclaim legalizing is the solution, but I think it's safe to say that prohibition isn't either.
the 3 strikes law has failed miserably----it has not reduced criminal activity and has caused overcrowding in California prisons...yet you want to make a one strike law :-\ that sounds like communist Russia to me or North Korea, shit we might as well put them in labor camps :-\
we Americans are supposedly living in a FREE nation, taking our civil liberties away, as the "patriot act" does, will only push us farther away from that ideal and make us more into a Soviet Russia clone. We may live in a "safe" society but does that really matter if you are not free to do anything, shit someone wont hurt themselves if you lock them in a padded cell with a straight jacket on but is that really living ??? Be careful the power you grant the government for the best intentioned laws can be used and manipulated into making us drones and pawns of the state. The founding fathers of this country would be appalled at such laws.
You CANNOT lock people up for something that is inherent in their nature, people have and will always use drugs. The answer is to treat them as people with a disease instead of as criminals and locking them up in a small cell and throwing away the key.
The answer is not easy, I agree with you, but things must change and the answer does not lie in imprisoning our citizens.
Great post!!
I have a hard time believing that claim of his from his unbelievably retarded posts over the years.
And if its anything close to the truth he just proves my point, IQ tests are far from an accurate assessment of ones true intelligence.
Oh wait...he said he's great at spatial tests...great...I can't tell you how many times in life I had to face challenges that used my ability to look at drawings and such. ::)
The irony is that this self proclaim fortress of logic, boast at a trait more fitting an artist.
IQ tests are a great indicator of intelligence. That doesn't mean they are good indicators/predictors of intelligence for EVERYONE, but on average, they are.
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That's like 85 threads, all wrapped into one.
Destined for splintered mess of nonsensical eyerolls and the like.
we don't need that kind of drama here.
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Hmmm, thats odd he did not mention homosexuality.
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The war on drugs is a sham.
As for people turning into zombies due to drugs, well, we already have something like alcohol sold legally and taxed.. How many lives does alcohol abuse cost? Thousands every year..
Why can't we do the same with marijuana? Taxing would provide more tax revenue, and we'd be spending less money on enforcement as well.
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How many lives does alcohol abuse cost? Thousands every year..
millions
I like ot have a drink once and again, but damn that stuff is toxic. I can't see how some people put that into their body on a day in day out basis