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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Special Ed on May 26, 2008, 03:57:30 PM
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Tonight on Big Nation Radio:
- A Round Table discussion about Steroid Testing, including the techniques used to defeat steroid tests by Olympic and professional athletes and media coverage of steroid testing and test results. Our guests include highly-regarded and outspoken steroid guru ALI AMINI and Dallas Morning News Sportswriter GARY JACOBSON.
- Other touchy subjects.
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watch cspan2 instead :P
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Ask ALI if he is worried someone will Fuk up doing some of the Drugs he promotes and the law will come after him??Also what does he think of a Guru Milos who has Pros with Flu symptoms 4 years after failing at a show.
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Is anyone listening? Its boring as fuck.
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Is anyone listening? Its boring as fuck.
How would you know that? Are you listening? If so...THANKS!
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Good show, guys.
Way to politely reason with that journalist guy about the anti-steroid hysteria!!!
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i liked to guy interviewed, who was it again? good sound this week
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I listened to the whole fucking thing. Did you say something about the steroids in high school stats being overblown? Cause its not. It was rampant at my school and many others.
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I listened to the whole fucking thing. Did you say something about the steroids in high school stats being overblown? Cause its not. It was rampant at my school and many others.
I call bullshit on that. Absolutely FALSE! I bet my hairy ass they were using something available at your local GNC. I am willing to also bet my hairy ass that out of 100 highschoolers surveyed to be a user...only 1 maybe 2 TOPS actually did or have.
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i listened to this appalling pile of shit show once and when i realized that it wasn't intentionally amateurish, boring and deeply unfunny, i switched it off.
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I call bullshit on that. Absolutely FALSE! I bet my hairy ass they were using something available at your local GNC. I am willing to also bet my hairy ass that out of 100 highschoolers surveyed to be a user...only 1 maybe 2 TOPS actually did or have.
Well you're completely wrong. I saw the stuff, the gains and the sides. Winny, test prop, cyp, omadren 250, deca. Not even all football players. Half the kids didn't even play sports. I saw it with my own eyes. The other catholic high school that used to clean our clock in football was even worse. They caught a couple freshman with gear in their locker.
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Well you're completely wrong. I saw the stuff, the gains and the sides. Winny, test prop, cyp, omadren 250, deca. Not even all football players. Half the kids didn't even play sports. I saw it with my own eyes. The other catholic high school that used to clean our clock in football was even worse. They caught a couple freshman with gear in their locker.
Hold up I have to sneeze..."Ahhh...ahhh...ahhhhhh"bullshit"chooooo! "
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Hold up I have to sneeze..."Ahhh...ahhh...ahhhhhh"bullshit"chooooo! "
Yeah, you're right. I decided to make this all up for fun. Stubborn and unfunny. What a combination.
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Blockie and I disagree on steroid use amongst high schoolers. I think it's fairly common, as I always see high school kids in my gym speaking to the largest and most muscular juicers, and figure that it's just a matter of time before one of them mentions steroids and "Do you know where we can get some?"
In my opinion, steroid sellers aren't the most discriminating group about whom they sell to. And if a guy got a shipment of fake shit three years ago that's been sitting in the closet, that's what the kids will be getting for their $200.
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Blockie and I disagree on steroid use amongst high schoolers. I think it's fairly common, as I always see high school kids in my gym speaking to the largest and most muscular juicers, and figure that it's just a matter of time before one of them mentions steroids and "Do you know where we can get some?"
In my opinion, steroid sellers aren't the most discriminating group about whom they sell to. And if a guy got a shipment of fake shit three years ago that's been sitting in the closet, that's what the kids will be getting for their $200.
So how do you suggest I get human grade shit, apart from waiting until I grow old and shriveled and get a prescription? ???
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It defintely happens more often than people think. At least in Florida. College was way worse.
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So how do you suggest I get human grade shit, apart from waiting until I grow old and shriveled and get a prescription? ???
Doh! Maybe go to med school or become friends with a physician's assistant? Find a pharmacy college nearby and hit the local bar after finals and get yourself a girlfriend with benefits? Or just order directly from gh15 like everyone else here does -- You just have to know the password!
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Jesus, some of the shit that is spewed out from some of peoples mouths here. First, there are NO human grade steroids available to buy unless prescription! Fars I know nandralone is not even being produced anymore by any company in the US. That would leave test and very few others. If anyone is curious as to how much it costs for the stuff that is available call up your local pharmacy and ask how much a bottle of Halotestin goes for.
The government loves to make people think that steroid abuse among highschool kids is rampant. Total bullshit!!! Right now obtaining steroids is VERRRYYY hard!! for everyone and the stuff that is floating around is very high priced and all most all of it is crap.
Do any of you stop and think about how the government is getting their info as far as steroid use and highschool kids? What accurate are these polls and how truthful are these guys being answering questions.
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Block did it enter your Mind to ask the reporter what he thought of the Blatant use and abuse of Drugs in BB and how they are Rewarded by the IFBB for doing such???Would have been interesting in what his reply would have been.
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Block did it enter your Mind to ask the reporter what he thought of the Blatant use and abuse of Drugs in BB and how they are Rewarded by the IFBB for doing such???Would have been interesting in what his reply would have been.
He is a sportswriter for a major newspaper and therefore, has no knowledge of bodybuilding. HTH!
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Its not like he contributes to musclephonbe or anything
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Jesus, some of the shit that is spewed out from some of peoples mouths here. First, there are NO human grade steroids available to buy unless prescription! Fars I know nandralone is not even being produced anymore by any company in the US. That would leave test and very few others. If anyone is curious as to how much it costs for the stuff that is available call up your local pharmacy and ask how much a bottle of Halotestin goes for.
The government loves to make people think that steroid abuse among highschool kids is rampant. Total bullshit!!! Right now obtaining steroids is VERRRYYY hard!! for everyone and the stuff that is floating around is very high priced and all most all of it is crap.
Do any of you stop and think about how the government is getting their info as far as steroid use and highschool kids? What accurate are these polls and how truthful are these guys being answering questions.
Calm down, gramps, don't rupture an artery. I was only joking ::)
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I love how guys who graduated high school 20 years ago think they know whats going on.
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Someone post Palumbo's phone number.
Ba ha ha!
I have to agree with DISGUSTED. The numbers are grossly exaggerated. 9 out of 10 highschool teenagers engaged in highschool athletics think Optimum Nutrition 100% WHEY Protein (Dutch Chocolate) is a steroid.
I'm not saying it never has happened but the numbers are far too low for any fat soccer mom to be alarmed.
I also know that 9 out of those 10 highschoolers drink and DRIVE regularily, snort cocaine, smoke bud , pop X and have promiscious sex.
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Ba ha ha!
I have to agree with DISGUSTED. The numbers are grossly exaggerated. 9 out of 10 highschool teenagers engaged in highschool athletics think Optimum Nutrition 100% WHEY Protein (Dutch Chocolate) is a steroid.
I'm not saying it never has happened but the numbers are far too low for any fat soccer mom to be alarmed.
I also know that 9 out of those 10 highschoolers drink and DRIVE regularily, snort cocaine, smoke bud , pop X and have promiscious sex.
I hear ya block.
these kids should be so lucky with the girls sucking everyone's cock on the bus. happens every day ::)
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Oh, I'm down with that but if fat soccer moms and law makers want to be worried about highschool kids then steroids should be at the very very bottom of the list or not even on the page at all.
Next thing you know we are going to hear about how steroids make teenagers have aggressive behavior and may even lead them to suicide like that little closet homo Tyler Houghton or whatever his name was.
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Calm down, gramps, don't rupture an artery. I was only joking ::)
Yeah, OK BIG boy. ::) BTW, I wasn't reffering to you. I didn't even read your post.
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Steroid side effects:
chest pain or heavy feeling, pain spreading to the arm or shoulder, nausea, sweating, general ill feeling;
a change in the pattern or severity of migraine headaches;
stomach pain, loss of appetite, jaundice (yellowing of the skin or eyes);
breast lump
symptoms of depression (sleep problems, weakness, mood changes).
Less serious side effects may include:
breast pain, tenderness, or swelling;
increased hair growth, or loss of scalp hair;
changes in weight or appetite, swelling of your hands or feet;
For women
vaginal itching or discharge; or
changes in your menstrual periods.
DO NOT TAKE IF YOU HAVE A HISTORY OF:
uncontrolled high blood pressure, migraine headaches, or a heart valve disorder;
a history of stroke, blood clot, or circulation problems of diabetes;
kidney or liver disease;
adrenal gland disorder;
FOR WOMEN
unusual vaginal bleeding;
any type of breast, uterine, or hormone-dependent cancer; or
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Ba ha ha!
I have to agree with DISGUSTED. The numbers are grossly exaggerated. 9 out of 10 highschool teenagers engaged in highschool athletics think Optimum Nutrition 100% WHEY Protein (Dutch Chocolate) is a steroid.
I'm not saying it never has happened but the numbers are far too low for any fat soccer mom to be alarmed.
I also know that 9 out of those 10 highschoolers drink and DRIVE regularily, snort cocaine, smoke bud , pop X and have promiscious sex.
why dutch chocolate ? ;D
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So how can I get human grade steroids then? ???
Do they have them at CVS?
Will the lady at the counter give them to me if I ask nicely enough?
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So how can I get human grade steroids then? ???
Do they have them at CVS?
Will the lady at the counter give them to me if I ask nicely enough?
no you gotta go to walgreens and you have to talk to pedro who will be in the snack aisle and tell him you want the apples
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no you gotta go to walgreens and you have to talk to pedro who will be in the snack aisle and tell him you want the apples
What a coincidence, there are two guys called Pedro picking apples in my garden right now.
Think they can hook me up? ;)
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What a coincidence, there are two guys called Pedro picking apples in my garden right now.
Think they can hook me up? ;)
Ba ha ha.
You still comming to Chicago in a few weeks?
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Ba ha ha.
You still comming to Chicago in a few weeks?
Still undecided.
Gas is real expensive and I'd feel too goofy going alone. Unfortunately none of my friends, even the ones most into lifting, are that interested in bbing to go to the Junior Nats...
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I call bullshit on that. Absolutely FALSE! I bet my hairy ass they were using something available at your local GNC. I am willing to also bet my hairy ass that out of 100 highschoolers surveyed to be a user...only 1 maybe 2 TOPS actually did or have.
I tend to agree with this. I think it is overblown for 2 main reasons:
1. access to real juice 2. $$$$$
The real sauce is a lot more $$$ than most high school kids could afford on a reg basis.
Crack, beer , pot is more in the price range for HS kids.
Ya know, I don't drink, smoke or do ANY drugs, even steroids.
Having said that, I don't understand why many drugs are illegal. I have heard various theories and know the history of drug laws, etc and it still makes no sense.
Howard
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So how can I get human grade steroids then? ???
Do they have them at CVS?
Will the lady at the counter give them to me if I ask nicely enough?
I'm bettin when the lady at the counter sees you she will not only suggest you get on test before you ask, but also give it to you for free. :D
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I'm bettin when the lady at the counter sees you she will not only suggest you get on test before you ask, but also give it to you for free. :D
Sweet!!! Thanks, gramps.
Do you get a lot of "pity test" as well? :)
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Sweet!!! Thanks, gramps.
Do you get a lot of "pity test" as well? :)
Nope since I'm old I got a script. In your case that fact that you were born without testicles would certainly make it legal for you to take at 12 years old.
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Nope since I'm old I got a script. In your case that fact that you were born without testicles would certainly make it legal for you to take at 12 years old.
Good news. I'll be sure to let you know what the CVS lady says :)
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Steroid side effects:
chest pain or heavy feeling, pain spreading to the arm or shoulder, nausea, sweating, general ill feeling;
a change in the pattern or severity of migraine headaches;
stomach pain, loss of appetite, jaundice (yellowing of the skin or eyes);
breast lump
symptoms of depression (sleep problems, weakness, mood changes).
Less serious side effects may include:
breast pain, tenderness, or swelling;
increased hair growth, or loss of scalp hair;
changes in weight or appetite, swelling of your hands or feet;
For women
vaginal itching or discharge; or
changes in your menstrual periods.
DO NOT TAKE IF YOU HAVE A HISTORY OF:
uncontrolled high blood pressure, migraine headaches, or a heart valve disorder;
a history of stroke, blood clot, or circulation problems of diabetes;
kidney or liver disease;
adrenal gland disorder;
FOR WOMEN
unusual vaginal bleeding;
any type of breast, uterine, or hormone-dependent cancer; or
Actually these are the side effects for the new birth cotrol pill YAZ. Sounds pretty safe to me. I think all young girls should be on it. ;D
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Majority of girls ages 14-25 use boatloads of steroids every day, actually.
Like Jim said...birth control pills. Birth control pills are in fact, steroids. Synthetic hormones. Period.(no pun intended)
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I tend to agree with this. I think it is overblown for 2 main reasons:
1. access to real juice 2. $$$$$
The real sauce is a lot more $$$ than most high school kids could afford on a reg basis.
Crack, beer , pot is more in the price range for HS kids.
Ya know, I don't drink, smoke or do ANY drugs, even steroids.
Having said that, I don't understand why many drugs are illegal. I have heard various theories and know the history of drug laws, etc and it still makes no sense.
Howard
The only reason I can think of as to why you guys don't think it's that rampant is location.
Not sure where you guys are from, but here in So Cal, we take our sports seriously! Which means, if you want that college scholarship for sports, you do what you have to do. YES, a lot of high school students are on steroids, maybe not 9 out of 10 students, but I'd say 7 out of 10 serious student athletes, easily! Football/ baseball/ wrestling being the most that I've personally been involved with.
Hell, I've even trained high school athletes and had their parents tell me if they do it, that I make sure they do it safely! The most popular is anything oral, as these are just kids and are still afraid of needles.
But yeah, every school has at least one or two guys who makes normal trips down south to Mexico and come back with the winning recipe for the CIF championships.
Don't get me started on how much MORE of these kids start AS use in college.... :o
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Brutal, let's say you're right and 7/10 student athletes are using steroids (though I find that estimate to be high). Assuming that only 10 percent of high school students play varsity sports, that would leave us with an overall statistic of 7 percent usage. Considering half of the stuff they're getting is fake, it's more like 3-4 percent. Compared to alcohol (90 percent high schooler usage), marijuana (50 percent), tobacco (30 percent) and Adderall (25 percent), I think steroids should be given the appropriate weight it deserves.
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Brutal, let's say you're right and 7/10 student athletes are using steroids (though I find that estimate to be high). Assuming that only 10 percent of high school students play varsity sports, that would leave us with an overall statistic of 7 percent usage. Considering half of the stuff they're getting is fake, it's more like 3-4 percent. Compared to alcohol (90 percent high schooler usage), marijuana (50 percent), tobacco (30 percent) and Adderall (25 percent), I think steroids should be given the appropriate weight it deserves.
Okay, yeah, looking at the entire student body it's not a HUGE percentage of students at all. And actually I can't think of any high school students that were doing AS for any reason other than sports. I can only comment on what I've seen myself.... ;)