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May 28, 2008
McCain targets Obama for not going to Iraq
Posted: 04:02 PM ET
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney, CNN's Alexander Marquardt
(CNN) — John McCain strongly criticized Barack Obama Wednesday for not visiting Iraq in more than two years and for turning down the Arizona senator's suggestion that the two should make a joint trip to the country.
“Senator Obama has been to Iraq once — a little over 2 years ago he went and he has never seized the opportunity except in a hearing to meet with Gen Petraeus," McCain said at a campaign event in Reno, Nevada. "My friends this is about leadership and learning."
Again raising the issue of Obama's willingness to meet with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, McCain also said of the Illinois senator, "he wants to sit down with the president of Iran but hasn’t yet sat down with Gen. Petraeus, the leader of our troops in Iraq?"
Obama last visited Iraq in January, 2006 for a two-day tour of the country.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
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Mccain has the second-worst congressional attendance in the senate. Only a man without main brain function shows up less.
Obama should target McCain for "not going to work" ;)
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Obama would but his advisor's advised him not to talk for the time being, he may end up embellishing that his great grandfather invented congress,,,,oh wait that would make his grand dad how old, math/history/facts/genealogy, not things is good at.
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Im surprised he didnt mention that they could travel and sightsee around Bahgdad in an unarmed humvee.
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Mccain has the second-worst congressional attendance in the senate. Only a man without main brain function shows up less.
Obama should target McCain for "not going to work" ;)
My boy, McCain is old and wiley. For example, he knows only to pick a fight (issue) with Obama, when he knows he can win. This is one of those issues. Rev Wright was another one. Baracks lack of judgement. and experience, 2 more. He is also a little better at knowing when to shut up. Overall, he is cleary a better campaigner than either of the 2 dems. Is he a better candidate, no. Would he be a better pres....no. I gotta say though, he is beating them as a campaigner.
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Im surprised he didnt mention that they could travel and sightsee around Bahgdad in an unarmed humvee.
Good point.
For all the visits, Mccain still doesn't know that Iran doesn't train Al-Q, and he still believes you can walk around in marketplaces, even though he needs 100 armed guards and a few choppers to do it.
Mccain keeps exposing himself, well, as a dumbass.
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For all the visits, Mccain still doesn't know that Iran doesn't train Al-Q, and he still believes you can walk around in marketplaces, even though he needs 100 armed guards and a few choppers to do it.
How many armed guards do Presidents and former Presidents need when they travel in the States?
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How many armed guards do Presidents and former Presidents need when they travel in the States?
Don't try and confuse people with the facts.
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How many armed guards do Presidents and former Presidents need when they travel in the States?
I met and spoke to a former president who had four for him and his grandchildren. And none of them were carrying anything more than a handgun. Hope this helps.
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How many armed guards do Presidents and former Presidents need when they travel in the States?
Not 100.
And I wasn't aware that McCain was a former president.
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May 28, 2008
McCain targets Obama for not going to Iraq
Posted: 04:02 PM ET
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney, CNN's Alexander Marquardt
(CNN) — John McCain strongly criticized Barack Obama Wednesday for not visiting Iraq in more than two years and for turning down the Arizona senator's suggestion that the two should make a joint trip to the country.
“Senator Obama has been to Iraq once — a little over 2 years ago he went and he has never seized the opportunity except in a hearing to meet with Gen Petraeus," McCain said at a campaign event in Reno, Nevada. "My friends this is about leadership and learning."
Again raising the issue of Obama's willingness to meet with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, McCain also said of the Illinois senator, "he wants to sit down with the president of Iran but hasn’t yet sat down with Gen. Petraeus, the leader of our troops in Iraq?"
Obama last visited Iraq in January, 2006 for a two-day tour of the country.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Sounds like Obama's survival instinct is strong.
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240 admit u love Obama...and are voting for him.
As far as Mccain...he made a mistake about Iran and AQI...his mistake was letting something slip. Obama chairs a sub committe on Afghanistan..he's never called a meeting. The guy has Zero clue..none.
April 8, 2008 No.
Hamas-Iraq: Al-Qaeda in Iraq is Subservient to Iran; 'The U.S. is Our Main Enemy, But a More Dangerous Enemy is Iran'
In a March 26, 2008 interview with the Qatari daily Al-'Arab, the spokesman for the Iraqi Sunni jihad organization Hamas-Iraq, Ahmad Salah Al-Din, accused Al-Qaeda in Iraq of regarding most Iraqi resistance factions as its main enemy, of subservience to Iran, and of receiving from it weapons, funds, training, and medical care for its wounded. Salah Al-Din added that in the past year Al-Qaeda in Iraq had become considerably weaker and smaller.
The following are excerpts from the Al-'Arab article on the interview:
Al-Qaeda in Iraq Has Its Own Agenda, Which Transcends the Borders of Iraq
"Regarding the reasons for the confrontation with Al-Qaeda, Salah Al-Din stated: 'We do not regard Al-Qaeda [in Iraq] as a resistance organization, since it has its own agenda which transcends the borders of Iraq. This has been clear since Abu-Mus'ab Al-Zarqawi vowed allegiance to Osama bin Laden - because after the occupation of Iraq, Al-Tawhid Wal-Jihad, [1] which was under Al-Zarqawi's command, was close to all Iraqi resistance factions and even planned to join forces with Al-Jaish Al-Islami. However, after Al-Zarqawi's vow of allegiance to bin Laden was publicly announced, things changed considerably: Al-Qaeda began openly spreading its ideas, goals, and hatred, and accusing of heresy anybody who took part in the political process, including Sunni Arab parties.
"'Following Al-Zarqawi's assassination, Al-Qaeda intensified its aggression against Iraq's resistance factions, until they became its primary [targets]. A confrontation ensued between [Al-Qaeda] and most of the Iraqi resistance factions, including the Thawrat Al-'Ishrin brigades - after Al-Qaeda had the audacity to murder Hareth Al-Dhari, the nephew of Sheikh Hareth Al-Dhari, secretary-general of the Council of Muslim Clerics in Iraq.'"
The Real Al-Qaeda Commander [in Iraq] is Abu Ayub Al-Masri
"Salah Al-Din accused Al-Qaeda of being subservient to Iran, [claiming] that they had [extensive] evidence to that effect. He said: 'We found Iranian [currency], toman, at an Al-Qaeda headquarters that we uncovered. We have also captured Iranian weapons, not to mention audio and video recordings containing announcements by Al-Qaeda fighters that they had received training in Iranian military camps and that Al-Qaeda wounded were being transported to Iran for medical treatment.'
"Salah Al-Din claimed that Al-Qaeda's real commander [in Iraq] was Abu Ayub Al-Masri, and that [Abu 'Omar] Al-Baghdadi [2] was an Iraqi figure to whom many [words and deeds] are attributed solely to create the impression that [Al-Qaeda is a genuinely] Iraqi organization. He said that [Abu Ayub] Al-Masri had been rescued from arrest by an Arab intelligence apparatus using a diplomatic vehicle belonging to the Iranian Embassy... Salah Al-Din explained that as of late, Al-Qaeda in Iraq had considerably diminished in size - so much so that today it can be said to constitute 15 percent of what it was a year ago, [and that therefore, even] if Al-Qaeda has begun launching suicide operations, these [operations] are not proof of its strength...'"
Iran Wants to Eradicate Our Beliefs and to Change the Demography of the Sunni Regions, Particularly Baghdad
"[In conclusion,] Salah Al-Din stated, in the name of Hamas-Iraq: 'The U.S. is our main enemy, but a more dangerous enemy is Iran. The U.S. wants [our] oil, and possibly it wants to establish military bases [on our soil], or to remain [in Iraq] for many years to come - while Iran wants to rule, [and] to eradicate and change [our] beliefs and ideas, [and] aspires to alter the demography of the Sunni regions, particularly Baghdad
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May 28, 2008
McCain targets Obama for not going to Iraq
Posted: 04:02 PM ET
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney, CNN's Alexander Marquardt
(CNN) — John McCain strongly criticized Barack Obama Wednesday for not visiting Iraq in more than two years and for turning down the Arizona senator's suggestion that the two should make a joint trip to the country.
“Senator Obama has been to Iraq once — a little over 2 years ago he went and he has never seized the opportunity except in a hearing to meet with Gen Petraeus," McCain said at a campaign event in Reno, Nevada. "My friends this is about leadership and learning."
Again raising the issue of Obama's willingness to meet with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, McCain also said of the Illinois senator, "he wants to sit down with the president of Iran but hasn’t yet sat down with Gen. Petraeus, the leader of our troops in Iraq?"
Obama last visited Iraq in January, 2006 for a two-day tour of the country.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
I think that's a good idea, and to give some sense of balance, Obama should invite McCain to tour some shut down factories from out sourcing and interview some of the unemployed poeple from them that were a result of BUSH's failed economic policies.
Then they can go to Iraq and tour BUSH failed foreign policy decisions, and then have an ice cream social with some of the BUSH nipple whores from GetBig.
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Yeah except Obama's not going to fix any of those problems. Outsourcing is Bush's fault how? Obama is going to take away ur rights and raise ur taxes...that will encourage businesses to come back here.
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Yeah except Obama's not going to fix any of those problems. Outsourcing is Bush's fault how? Obama is going to take away ur rights and raise ur taxes...that will encourage businesses to come back here.
Most americans will get a tax cut under Obama's tax plan.
Obama will cut income taxes by $1,000 for working families to offset the payroll tax they pay.
Provide a Tax Cut for Working Families: Obama will restore fairness to the tax code and provide 150 million workers the tax relief they need. Obama will create a new "Making Work Pay" tax credit of up to $500 per person, or $1,000 per working family. The "Making Work Pay" tax credit will completely eliminate income taxes for 10 million Americans.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#tax-relief
I didn't notice a section for "Taking away American Rights" at his web site.
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Dude...u know he's going to raise taxes, u know he's anti-gun. The Lib agenda is all about building a strong central government.
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Dude...u know he's going to raise taxes, u know he's anti-gun. The Lib agenda is all about building a strong central government.
The same exact stuff was said about Gore, Kerry and now Obama.
He will raise taxes on those more able to pay. But he will also cut taxes.
As for guns, who needs the headache politicall?. Gun proponents just aren't worth the political effort.
No one's going to take your guns away unless you think you can carry a LAW around as a weapon of selfdefense.
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I think that's a good idea, and to give some sense of balance, Obama should invite McCain to tour some shut down factories from out sourcing and interview some of the unemployed poeple from them that were a result of BUSH's failed economic policies.
hahahah BRILLIANT@!
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Yeah except Obama's not going to fix any of those problems. Outsourcing is Bush's fault how? Obama is going to take away ur rights and raise ur taxes...that will encourage businesses to come back here.
he supported it, awarded government contracts (50 billion) etc..
http://fixco1.com/bushoutsourcing.html (http://fixco1.com/bushoutsourcing.html)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,186791,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,186791,00.html)
http://www.usw.org/usw/program/content/2686.php (http://www.usw.org/usw/program/content/2686.php)
And don't think i believe it's all BUSH's fault, he only continued the policy that was similar to NAFTA......a Clinton thing.
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Outsourcing is Bush's fault how?
woah, you might know your military stuff, but you should read up on how the bush policy has ENCOURAGED firms to move overseas for supprt and mnfg.
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240 admit u love Obama...and are voting for him.
He already admitted this:
Quote from: 240 is Back on February 27, 2008, 05:23:53 PM
So I probably will vote dem.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=212629.0;attach=254325;image)
He already admitted this:
yeah, finding out 911 was an inside job is kinda a damper on voting for the guy (mccain) who wrote the forward to that Popular mechanics report where they claimed to have located and identified DNA from all 10 vaporized WTC hijackers in 20 hours...
I like Obama about as much as I would like reading Beach Bum's massively fabricated resume.
Maybe I'm liking Bob Barr...
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=212629.0;attach=254325;image)
yeah, finding out 911 was an inside job is kinda a damper on voting for the guy (mccain) who wrote the forward to that Popular mechanics report where they claimed to have located and identified DNA from all 10 vaporized WTC hijackers in 20 hours...
I like Obama about as much as I would like reading Beach Bum's massively fabricated resume.
Maybe I'm liking Bob Barr...
Poor kid. He's confused. Voting for Barr. Voting for Obama or Hillary. Voting for McCain:
I'm a republican. I'm voting for McCain despite his liberal leanings and the fact he almost left the Republican party in 2001.
I've never voted dem in my life. You have. Are you *sure* I'm the lib here?
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Poor kid. He's confused. Voting for Barr. Voting for Obama or Hillary. Voting for McCain:
Were you confused when you dropped out of high school to become a college professor?
Or when you gave a detailed book review on Sam Walton's book but hadn't the foggiest clue who the waltons were?
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woah, you might know your military stuff, but you should read up on how the bush policy has ENCOURAGED firms to move overseas for supprt and mnfg.
Much like mccain i leave that stuff to the experts... :P
Decker as far as guns..that was an extreme example. U guys think Bush is nuts on regulations and rights violations..wait until u get a super Lib thinking he knows whats best.
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Much like mccain i leave that stuff to the experts... :P
Decker as far as guns..that was an extreme example. U guys think Bush is nuts on regulations and rights violations..wait until u get a super Lib thinking he knows whats best.
I wouldn't worry. Any president is a walking inflated ego--you gotta be to make the run. Believe me, every president thinks he knows what is best.
Your guns are safe.
I know you characterize Obama as ultra liberal but he really isn't. His universal healthcare plan makes the mistake of working through private big insurance companies. Every presidential candidate promises the kitchen sink. You have to look at the issues that stand a chance.
Didn't Bush advocate spending on alternative fuels and a mission to mars? I don't see those things coming around any time soon.
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Were you confused when you dropped out of high school to become a college professor?
Or when you gave a detailed book review on Sam Walton's book but hadn't the foggiest clue who the waltons were?
So we have established that he is voting Obama or Hillary, voting for McCain, and might vote for Barr . . . and that he is a Republican. Or is he?
I'm a libertarian.
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So we have established that he is voting Obama or Hillary, voting for McCain, and might vote for Barr . . . and that he is a Republican. Or is he?
You smell like cum.
Is that Larry Craig you're wearing?
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You smell like cum.
Is that Larry Craig you're wearing?
Perhaps he is telling a fib about voting for Obama, Hillary, McCain, and possibly Barr, being a Republican and a libertarian? Certainly possible given his whopper about voting for George Bush Sr. Despite saying repeatedly that he voted for Bush Sr., he neglected to say that his vote for Bush Sr. was really as a high school student in a mock election:
I voted for Bush, Dole, Bush and Bush. yes, I'm a repub.
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I voted for Bush, Dole, Bush2, and Bush2. i also voted for Jeb once or twice in my state.
You also said you voted for Bush Sr.
i was only 16 then. I debated his positions in this project we did in junior year Int'l relations and voted in the school election. I loved Bush1.
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Perhaps he is telling a fib about voting for Obama, Hillary, McCain, and possibly Barr, being a Republican and a libertarian? Certainly possible given his whopper about voting for George Bush Sr. Despite saying repeatedly that he voted for Bush Sr., he neglected to say that his vote for Bush Sr. was really as a high school student in a mock election:
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Good comeback 240...look if u like Comrade Obama thats fine...give up ur guns, roll out ur smart car and break out ur gas and food ration cards, becuase some nutbag in Africa needs ur gass and food. And I'm sure by term 2, that rock and roll music u play might be out....
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I'm not deployed currently....I'm refilling my zippo lighter and machine gun. Not headed out until late 2009...head to Afghanistan in October for a few weeks.
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U keep saying I'm brainwashed...I've admitted the war was for oil. One of my PL's called over our radio's as we rolled into Iraq..lets go save the oil..never had any doubts. I'm not happy with our choices on the Repub side..but what Obama is better..come on.
Thanks.
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It's funny how the Libs were loving McCain until he decided to run for president. Same goes for a lot of Repubs the way they flocked to him after despising him.
Seems like the Dems should be happy. They pretty much have 3 Dems on the ticket right now.
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It's funny how the Libs were loving McCain until he decided to run for president. Same goes for a lot of Repubs the way they flocked to him after despising him.
Seems like the Dems should be happy. They pretty much have 3 Dems on the ticket right now.
actthe dems must be either happy or unhappy seeing as how, more dems have left the democratic ticket now than ever before in history.
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It's funny how the Libs were loving McCain until he decided to run for president.
Bush, Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, Romney, and Rudy all called Mccain a LIBERAL.
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Bush, Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, Romney, and Rudy all called Mccain a LIBERAL.
But did The Coach? That is the true test.
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But did The Coach? That is the true test.
coach called him a lib BEFORE he got the nomination.
After he got the nomination, he changed his tune.
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After he got the nomination, he changed his tune.
That's what I am saying. Both parties changed their tune once he got the nod.
Pathetic.