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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: Brutal_1 on May 31, 2008, 08:46:51 PM
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I'm sorry but that guy's a fluke...
FOr the longest I wanted to believe that he would do some damage. But after watching this absolute joke of a fight, it's obvious he doesn't belong in MMA.
You would think after all this training they would work on his condition...the guy ran out of gas in the first few minutes!!!
It was obvious the opponent they chose was a huge joke too...the guy punched like a pussy and couldn't grapple for crap! Kimbo was able to get out from under him numerous times, including getting out of a guillatine!!! Come on!
-when kimbo was wearing down and not doing anything but getting pounded, the ref stood them on their feet (gee...guess who benefits from that one)
-the fight ends because kimbo lands a few punches....YET he ends up on his back out of exhaustion, while his opponent is still standing with enough steam to almost knock out the ref!!
This was a sham, a ploy to squeeze everything they can out of this guy Kimbo, and for a minute I wanted to believe. but you could tell this whole "spectacle" was meant for Kimbo to shine, I think they underestimated his opponent, got worried did whatever they could to at least have him win.
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Holy shit, I was just waiting the entire fight for that cauliflower ear to pop.....and it FUCKING DOES! lmao
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This is gonna set MMA back 15 fucking years!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That whole fight was a fraud!!!!!!!!! Kimbo got hit 50 fucking times and not defending himself .I cant believe that ref.....he kept trying to find any excuse to stand them up so Kimbo might have a chance of knocking James T out, plus in that second round JT was on top landing shots for a good fuckin minute!!!!!!!! What happened to stopping the fight when one fighter is not DEFENDING himself ????....Afterall Dana seems to be right....this was just a baaaad spectacle that will affect MMA's image. :'( I dont think I will ever watch another fight on CBS.
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This was a crackpipe set of events. Phil Baroni got his ass handed to him. The Kimbo fight was a farce and the Scott Smith stopage was beyond ridiculous. White was right about Slice not being an MMA fighter and this being a "farm league".
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I got no beef with the Baroni fight (he sucks!), the out-of-shape Carano, or the excellent Smith-Lawler fight abruptly coming to an end (Smith gave the doctor the only response that would have ended the fight - "I can't see out of the eye.")
But I agree with the "fix" being in on the Slice-Thompson debacle. I've never seen a ref stand up fighters not locked up when a guy has side control, never seen a ref let a guy take a minute of punches (okay, sissy fists) to the face without being to defend himself (though they did let BJ Penn take quite a bit from Hughes) and though we've all seen fights stopped prematurely, I think the only satisfying outcome in a sloppy back and forth "battle" is to let the fight end decisively. If, as the announcers said, Thompson was one punch away from being Kayoed, why not let Slice land that punch for the highlight reel?
The logical response seems to be that the organization just could not risk another takedown or reversal of fortune by Thompson to topple the Kimbo apple cart.
Elite/Showtime/CBS went for the one-time ratings bonanza rather than putting on a show that would proudly represent MMA. Cung Le, Frank Shamrock, Nick Diaz, or Jake Shields would all have been far better options. Time (and ratings) will tell whether Elite's Gary Shaw's idea was too short-sighted because the bottom line is that if the ratings are good, at least there will be a second chance to make things right. If they gave us Lawler-Shields as the headliner and ratings were half of a Kimbo headliner, we'd never see MMA on network again.
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The women's fight was much better than Kimbo-Thompson. I wish they'd been able to start that 3rd round, but that fluid-filled sac under Young's eye made it a no go.
They gave Gina a lot of shit for being heavy and out-of-shape, but I like a girl with a little bit of thickness like that.
They didn't give Kimbo enough of a hard time for being out of shape - he's been much better conditioned in the past.
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i seen that guys ear pop and it was fucking disgusting.
there are ways to treat colliflower ears, ie. putting leeches on the ear to suck out all the excess blood, that guy needs to have that done before he tries to fight again lol.
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Who cares about the reputation of MMA I want more Kimbo beating up crackers!
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Why would you put a leach on the ear, they drain the ears with insulin needles, but if you let the blood harden, then it becomes the hard shit, he had blood in their should have been drained, in the end it was drained lol by Kimbo SLICE!
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What was the rationale for not draining the ear before he got into the ring?
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Cauliflower ears are a badge of honor in the MMA world. Just check out Couture, Penn, Hendo, Hughes, Big Nog, Trigg and many others for proof! Since Thompson can't fight, he needs something to feel like he belongs!
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it is gross!
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What was the rationale for not draining the ear before he got into the ring?
more ratings? ;D
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monster phantom punches at the end of the kimbo fight too.
bigger payday for all, if he advances.
and they say some conspiracies aren't true...
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I'm joining the EliteXC boycott. Who's with me?
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Well I have to admit they rig it so Kimbo will come out the winner. The ref kept saying how he was going to stand them up with Thompson was on top and Kimbo doing nothing and then after Kimbo lands a few he calls it. From the first punch that Thompson guy threw I was surprised he was a fighter. He has no technique or even much power for such a big guy. He is very erratic too. I have to admit they stop the Lawler fight too to soon. I think maybe it was because of the network TV that they had to be a little more careful about really how barbaric the MMA is. But, who knows.
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nasty fuggin ear :-X fight sucked
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Well I have to admit they rig it so Kimbo will come out the winner. The ref kept saying how he was going to stand them up with Thompson was on top and Kimbo doing nothing and then after Kimbo lands a few he calls it. From the first punch that Thompson guy threw I was surprised he was a fighter. He has no technique or even much power for such a big guy. He is very erratic too. I have to admit they stop the Lawler fight too to soon. I think maybe it was because of the network TV that they had to be a little more careful about really how barbaric the MMA is. But, who knows.
Yeah, they wanted to show the circus sideshow main event. Should have been stopped in the second when Thompson had the crucifix against the cage and Kimbo did not defend himself.
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I definately think that both Kimbo and Thompson were fighting as hard as they could but this was a 3 man fight and it was Thompson vs Kimbo and the ref.
There's no way that an experienced (and he was) ref should have stood them up when Thompson had side control in the middle of the round. The ONLY logical reason is that it was becoming obvious that Thompson would have been able to ground n pound Slice for 1/2 a round non-stop and that Slice would have been too beat down to work his stand up signature power punches in the next round (which is what the pro boxing promoters wanted; an action movie KO instead of a ground fighting win that the uneducated fight fans don't understand as well.)
Then when Thompson won't go down and Kimbo completely gasses out, the ref jumps in and stops the fight to save it from fizzling from fatigue. I like how the commentators tried to say that Thompson attacked the ref out of confusion. He attacked him for good reason; he just fukt up the prime time main event for him!
Gina Carano was super impressive though. Kaitlyn Young was a tough competitor too. And I felt bad for Phil Baroni and I give him credit for having the class to give props to Villasenor during the post fight press conference. Baroni still makes for an exciting stand up fight so hopefully another promotion gives him a chance to return and get another shot at a W.
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i didnt know a ear can puss up like that? Does anyone know how that happens?
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i didnt know a ear can puss up like that? Does anyone know how that happens?
How can you not know that?
Have you ever wrestled?
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How can you not know that?
Have you ever wrestled?
no sorry I dont oil up in a tight suit..... ::)
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I think Kimbo did great..
Ofcourse his groundgame is not great yet for obvios reasons.
But his standup is amazing. Anyone but that giant thompson what have been ktfo in the first round, Kimbo landed some hard fucking hits man.
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Here`s the fight.
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I think Kimbo did great..
Ofcourse his groundgame is not great yet for obvios reasons.
But his standup is amazing. Anyone but that giant thompson what have been ktfo in the first round, Kimbo landed some hard fucking hits man.
Thompson is known for having a weak chin. You make absolutely no sense at all.
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Thompson is known for having a weak chin. You make absolutely no sense at all.
Watch the damn fight..
Hes chin was amazing in this fight.
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Watch the damn fight..
Hes chin was amazing in this fight.
His chin can't magically become 'amazing' so the strikes really could not have been that hard.
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I'm joining the EliteXC boycott. Who's with me?
The women's fight was one of the best MMA fights I've seen in a long time, period.
So, if Gina's on the card, I'll tune in.
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Well I have to admit they rig it so Kimbo will come out the winner. The ref kept saying how he was going to stand them up with Thompson was on top and Kimbo doing nothing and then after Kimbo lands a few he calls it. From the first punch that Thompson guy threw I was surprised he was a fighter. He has no technique or even much power for such a big guy. He is very erratic too.
I think the 'air punches' he used to pump himself up before the fight had more power.
It's funny when they talked about him 'raining elbows' on Kimbo...he was barely even touching the guy, more love taps than anything.
I didn't see Kimbo tap out, but I did see him completely helpless against the fence...Thompson just didn't have enough game to put him away.
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i didnt know a ear can puss up like that? Does anyone know how that happens?
It was already filled when he came into the ring. It comes from having your ear rubbed over and over...the cartilage breaks up and blood comes in to fill those spaces. Cauliflower ear is one reason amateur wrestlers wear headgear.
It's my opinion that he should've drained it before fighting last night, because it was nothing but a big, floppy target.
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His chin can't magically become 'amazing' so the strikes really could not have been that hard.
Although he did not get pummeled by any stretch, he did get rocked a few times, but because Kimbo couldn't close in and finish him off, Thompson was able to gather himself fully each time.
This fight definitely exposed a LOT of weaknesses in Kimbo's game because, even though his 'style' is listed as brawling, he was unable to execute that all night.
The most surprising part for me, though, was Kimbo's lack of conditioning, because that was something he seemed to pride himself in previously. It's also unfortunate that they (CBS) kept wanting commentary from Kimbo, because that's not what he's about, IMO. I think he would prefer to be an enigma...to show up, fight, make his money, and go home.
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Well I have to admit they rig it so Kimbo will come out the winner. The ref kept saying how he was going to stand them up with Thompson was on top and Kimbo doing nothing and then after Kimbo lands a few he calls it. From the first punch that Thompson guy threw I was surprised he was a fighter. He has no technique or even much power for such a big guy. He is very erratic too. I have to admit they stop the Lawler fight too to soon. I think maybe it was because of the network TV that they had to be a little more careful about really how barbaric the MMA is. But, who knows.
Everyone over here thought the same thing...after seeing that first punch that Thompson through we all started laughing and though, "okay, maybe he's not a striker, he's a grappler!"
So, of course when he took Kimbo down we thought it was all over...we hadn't realized that this guy couldn't grapple to save his damn life! I mean this fight was either completely fixed or they scraped the bottom of the barrel for Kimbo's big fight. ::)
It was embarassing to see how little aggression Thompson had, I don't think he threw ONE solid aggressive punch or kick in the whole fight. And how does kimbo, who knows very little about grappling, get out of a full guard from a 260 lb fighter...TWICE?!
They had to end the fight the way they did...they couldn't risk another take down, cause kimbo was gassed, you gotta love how the victor wins on his back sucking air, LOL Had the fight gone to the scorecards they would've still given it to kimbo, even though he lost from the first round, based on points from take downs. At least the "mystery" is gone, had kimbo fought even somewhat of a decent fighter, it wouldn't have even been close.
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I just read the article on yahoo and pertaining to the second round scoring. One judge had it 10-9 kimbo and one had it 10-8 thompson. Are you kidding me... it probably should have been 10-7 thompson!
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I just read the article on yahoo and pertaining to the second round scoring. One judge had it 10-9 kimbo and one had it 10-8 thompson. Are you kidding me... it probably should have been 10-7 thompson!
LMAO!!
Oh brother...these people have no shame ::)
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Kimbo should have killed that motherfcuker with one more blow
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Everyone over here thought the same thing...after seeing that first punch that Thompson through we all started laughing and though, "okay, maybe he's not a striker, he's a grappler!"
So, of course when he took Kimbo down we thought it was all over...we hadn't realized that this guy couldn't grapple to save his damn life! I mean this fight was either completely fixed or they scraped the bottom of the barrel for Kimbo's big fight. ::)
It was embarassing to see how little aggression Thompson had, I don't think he threw ONE solid aggressive punch or kick in the whole fight. And how does kimbo, who knows very little about grappling, get out of a full guard from a 260 lb fighter...TWICE?!
They had to end the fight the way they did...they couldn't risk another take down, cause kimbo was gassed, you gotta love how the victor wins on his back sucking air, LOL Had the fight gone to the scorecards they would've still given it to kimbo, even though he lost from the first round, based on points from take downs. At least the "mystery" is gone, had kimbo fought even somewhat of a decent fighter, it wouldn't have even been close.
To tell you the truth there was hardly ay technique whatsoever in that fight. It was basically just a backyard fight in a ring with a ref ad a larger audience. Even on the ground neither of them knew what to do. Thompson had Kimbo's arm trapped and had a wide open space to rain down punches and all he did was pitter-patter Kimbos face. Kimbo reversed once from the gournd but that was more natural move than technique. I was very surprised how unprofessional they both looked. And the girl fight was the best. I liked the Lawler fight the best until they stopped it. Should never have a woman doctor in the ring making decisions.
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Colossus reacts after this monumental and epic stoppage.
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I think Kimbo did great..
Ofcourse his groundgame is not great yet for obvios reasons.
But his standup is amazing. Anyone but that giant thompson what have been ktfo in the first round, Kimbo landed some hard fucking hits man.
this guy KTFO'd thompson in about 14 seconds. yeah, kimbo's a hell of a striker. ::)
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Well, they did a good job of protecting Kimbo. JT won that fight. This fight was fixed.
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Colossus reacts after this monumental and epic stoppage.
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm213/kamroni/ear.gif)
Sometimes he look dangerous.
Sometimes he looks like a fucking retard.
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Should never have a woman doctor in the ring making decisions.
QFT
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the whole fight card was annoying.
with Busta Rhymes, fireworks, cheerleaders, fuck, enough already. he's an idea : show the fights then let me go to bed.
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anyone see and know who the bb standing behind Kimbo was during the post fight interview?
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This fight was fixed. I feel bad for James Thompson. They are trying so hard to protect this guy. Take a look at this bullshit.
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This fight was fixed. I feel bad for James Thompson. They are trying so hard to protect this guy. Take a look at this bullshit.
My thoughts exactly.
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look for elite to promote the hell out of gina carano also. she is very marketable. im sure if she faces tough comp in the cage the ref will slide her some advantages. she is very hot.
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Does anyone have a clip of the ruckus during the post-fight interview when what's-his-faced punked Kimbo?
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Does anyone have a clip of the ruckus during the post-fight interview when what's-his-faced punked Kimbo?
I changed the channel right after the fight, what happened ???
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Does anyone have a clip of the ruckus during the post-fight interview when what's-his-faced punked Kimbo?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=217450.0
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What a utter sham. Anybody who is a die hard Kimbo fan should be banned from watching MMA. Thompson is a can and Kimbo had a really hard time with him. Kimbo attracts the drunk frat boy fans w ho know absolutely nothing about the sport. There are to many of these types of fans to begin with.
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War Colossus!
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name a fighter who hasn't had an off night.
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name a fighter who hasn't had an off night.
There is a big difference with an untested over hyped fighter like Kimbo having an off night with a tomato can opponent and a tested fighter having an off night. Kimbo's opponents have been a collection of has beens and never where's. JT, a fighter with a terrible record limited skill set and a reputation for a glass jaw was schooling Kimbo for the majority of the fight. Two or more times he had the dominant position on Kimbo and was effectively striking but was forced to stand up. Something is not right here. Kimbo received a gift and as fan of MMA you should be utterly offended by that.
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To tell you the truth there was hardly ay technique whatsoever in that fight. It was basically just a backyard fight in a ring with a ref ad a larger audience. Even on the ground neither of them knew what to do. Thompson had Kimbo's arm trapped and had a wide open space to rain down punches and all he did was pitter-patter Kimbos face. Kimbo reversed once from the gournd but that was more natural move than technique. I was very surprised how unprofessional they both looked. And the girl fight was the best. I liked the Lawler fight the best until they stopped it. Should never have a woman doctor in the ring making decisions.
Thompson was gassed. He showed good technique in secruing underhooks, his wrestling has improved immensely since spending time at Xtreme Couture. His stand up is still terrible, and his conditioning was lacking. He did get the crucifix from cross side, passed what Kimbo has for a guard, and mounted multiple times.
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Thompson was gassed. He showed good technique in secruing underhooks, his wrestling has improved immensely since spending time at Xtreme Couture. His stand up is still terrible, and his conditioning was lacking. He did get the crucifix from cross side, passed what Kimbo has for a guard, and mounted multiple times.
He still fought better than Kimbo, and took Kimbo's punches directly on the chin and didn't get knocked out.
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Colossus, tough as nails!
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I'll say this, Kimbo has some huge frickin fists holy shit!!
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wow. i'm not a thompson fan, but jeezus he won that fight at least twice. first kimbo tapped, and then he sat there defenseless for over a minute getting pounded, and it looked like after the round ended he just layed there.
that's some baby back bullshit right there. kimbo lost. end of story. and he lost bad. ::)
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He still fought better than Kimbo, and took Kimbo's punches directly on the chin and didn't get knocked out.
I agree. I was just saying he isn't a total can. But for someone with little or no wrestling ability, he sure got Kimbo to the ground and kept him there. If this were Nog, Werdum, Gonzaga, Vera, guys with wrestling and jits, the fight would have been over in the first. Totally one dimensional fighter in Kimbo. He needs to obtain those skillsets NOW, because he relies on his athleticism to make his techniques work, and he aint getting younger.
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Kimbo should have been submitted. They'd better not put him against anybody that has a clue about the ground game. Some may call it an open guard, but he was just laying flat on his back. Especially in that weak 1/2 guard, how many times could Thompson take the mount? EliteXC is the minor league to the UFC.
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Thompson was gassed. He showed good technique in secruing underhooks, his wrestling has improved immensely since spending time at Xtreme Couture. His stand up is still terrible, and his conditioning was lacking. He did get the crucifix from cross side, passed what Kimbo has for a guard, and mounted multiple times.
Kev he sucked on the ground. Most of that stuff will come naturally. Instinct alone will get you on top. If you got a guy who knows less than you under you, mounting shouldn't be a problem. He did get the crucifix but even after that he couldn't do shit. I haven't done any of this stuff for 20 years and my ground game is better than that. Thompson is overhyped for the fight. But he does have a chin cause he did take some good shots.
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Interview with Colossus right after the fight
http://www.proelite.com/player/video/115332/1
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Kimbo should have been submitted. They'd better not put him against anybody that has a clue about the ground game. Some may call it an open guard, but he was just laying flat on his back. Especially in that weak 1/2 guard, how many times could Thompson take the mount? EliteXC is the minor league to the UFC.
they better not put him against a good striker, either. kimbo's basically bob sapp only without the frightening physical advantage and even less technical skill. he doesn't weigh 360 pounds so he can't just charge over people and hope to land a few punches.
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wow. i'm not a thompson fan, but jeezus he won that fight at least twice. first kimbo tapped, and then he sat there defenseless for over a minute getting pounded, and it looked like after the round ended he just layed there.
that's some baby back bullshit right there. kimbo lost. end of story. and he lost bad. ::)
He was defenseless, but although his air supply was limited, I didn't think those elbows were doing any damage at all.
I thought he tapped, though.
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He was defenseless, but although his air supply was limited, I didn't think those elbows were doing any damage at all.
I thought he tapped, though.
they may not have been doing damage, but the point is he was laying there not defending himself for over 60 seconds. i've seen fights in that position get stopped after about 10. it was a TKO, end of story.
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The fight really exposed Kimbo`s lack of groundgame.
Im sick of the Kimbo hype, he lost 2 rounds against a D-level fighter and he is nowhere near the level that some people claim him to be.
Gary Shaw got some balls when he is trying to say that Kimbo would give some of the best Hw fighters problems.
The fight also looked fixed , Kimbo took like 20 elbows to the head wich he did not defend and the referee said nothing. Then the referee stood them up when JT had Side controll wich is a dominant position.
Then proceeded with stopping the fight way too prematurely
Kimbo = overrated.
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Kev he sucked on the ground. Most of that stuff will come naturally. Instinct alone will get you on top. If you got a guy who knows less than you under you, mounting shouldn't be a problem. He did get the crucifix but even after that he couldn't do shit. I haven't done any of this stuff for 20 years and my ground game is better than that. Thompson is overhyped for the fight. But he does have a chin cause he did take some good shots.
He never did any of this in his previous fights. So he was a D level can prior, and is now a C level can. His chin has always been suspect, and the fact that Kimbo didn't KO him makes me wonder about Kimbo's power.
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The fight really exposed Kimbo`s lack of groundgame.
Im sick of the Kimbo hype, he lost 2 rounds against a D-level fighter and he is nowhere near the level that some people claim him to be.
Gary Shaw got some balls when he is trying to say that Kimbo would give some of the best Hw fighters problems.
The fight also looked fixed , Kimbo took like 20 elbows to the head wich he did not defend and the referee said nothing. Then the referee stood them up when JT had Side controll wich is a dominant position.
Then proceeded with stopping the fight way too prematurely
Kimbo = overrated.
kimbo exists for one reason: he is a large, scary black thug. he got his ass kicked by a scrub white dude in a fight with limited rules, in which he broke the rules and then his posse dove in when gannon responded in kind. KO'd four times if memory serves.
today he's "hyped" because he's been "trained" and is now roided up twice as big. if a 200 pound white dude with blond hair had been in those underground fights, there'd be no hype. kimbo just looks like a terrifying hood rat and his promoters will ride the kimbo train by making sure he never fights anyone good, and the refs will make sure if he's against anyone competent that he'll still win.
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kimbo exists for one reason: he is a large, scary black thug. he got his ass kicked by a scrub white dude in a fight with limited rules, in which he broke the rules and then his posse dove in when gannon responded in kind. KO'd four times if memory serves.
today he's "hyped" because he's been "trained" and is now roided up twice as big. if a 200 pound white dude with blond hair had been in those underground fights, there'd be no hype. kimbo just looks like a terrifying hood rat and his promoters will ride the kimbo train by making sure he never fights anyone good, and the refs will make sure if he's against anyone competent that he'll still win.
Well said. When is the Mike Tyson circus going to happen?