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Is There a Shocking Michelle Obama Recording?
Monday, June 2, 2008 4:34 PM
By: Newsmax Staff
An untold story lies behind Hillary Clinton’s determination to remain in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination — the possible revelation of a shocking recording of rival Barack Obama’s wife Michelle.
That’s the word from longtime political analyst Roger J. Stone Jr., who writes on his The StoneZONE Web site that the recording purportedly documents Michelle Obama making racist comments in a speech.
According to Stone, Hillary aides are in a race with Republicans to get their hands on the offensive recording.
“On the heels of Michelle Obama’s quote that she ‘has never been proud of her country’ until now, the new controversy could turn the contest upside down, but it more likely” to benefit “John McCain than to boost Hillary Clinton to the nomination — if the alleged recording exists,” Stone writes.
He also asserts that Mark Penn, Clinton’s former chief campaign strategist, has told sources that the bombshell “could come this week.”
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Michelle_obama_tape/2008/06/02/100888.html
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Show us the tape!!!!!!!!!
Would be pretty smart of republicans to keep the tape quiet until hilary concedes, THEN to leak it.
Hey, wasn't McCain 47 years old, when he voted AGAINST Martin Luther King day?
oh brother
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NT,
Prepare for 5 more months of BeachCum talking about small, irrelevant personal things about Obama.
He sure doesn't want to talk about the economy, the war, healthcare, etc.
Only stupid people will care more about personal stuff, than they will about the issues that actually affect us.
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too bad her quote was " i have never been SO proud of my country until now."
nice try spinmister !
NT
You saw that slick move too.
Very slick indeed.
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too bad her quote was " i have never been SO proud of my country until now."
nice try spinmister !
NT
half truth
She made the same exact speech two times and in one she said "SO"
That was after she realized the press had picked up on her first speech, the correction came too late
You saw that slick move too.
Very slick indeed.
No it wasnt slick if you keep up with the facts, it was honest reporting of what happend the first time, not the second time.
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Wow it looks like if it is true it's bad :o
Update: Here’s Larry Johnson’s update. If this plays out to be true, there will be a tape showing Michelle Obama and Farrakhan railing against “Whitey”! Also, a deep relationship between Obama and the Nation of Islam will be revealed. Stay tuned cuz this may not come out till October!
If this is true, Obama is toast. The rumor is that the evil Karl Rove has a copy of a tape showing Michelle Obama railing against “whitey” inside Trinity United Church and that it is being saved as the GOP’s October surprise.
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Wow it looks like if it is true it's bad :o
Update: Here’s Larry Johnson’s update. If this plays out to be true, there will be a tape showing Michelle Obama and Farrakhan railing against “Whitey”! Also, a deep relationship between Obama and the Nation of Islam will be revealed. Stay tuned cuz this may not come out till October!
If this is true, Obama is toast. The rumor is that the evil Karl Rove has a copy of a tape showing Michelle Obama railing against “whitey” inside Trinity United Church and that it is being saved as the GOP’s October surprise.
How poetic.
Gee, just disseminating this story could have an effect on the Obama campaign.
And some people still wonder why Karl Rove is viewed as a walking piece of shit.
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How poetic.
Gee, just disseminating this story could have an effect on the Obama campaign.
And some people still wonder why Karl Rove is viewed as a walking piece of shit.
very true as well!!
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really ? some people stll wonder ?
NT
Some = President Bush in particular and the Free Republic in general.
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new information emerging:
Obama was the powerhouse behind Don Imus's firing from the radioshow
Looks like it's going to be a one two hypocrite punch with this guy.
Leak the tape of "whitey" and show how he is a hypocrite, perhaps??
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that would be very hypocritical of obama.
let's hear the tape!!!!!!!!!!!!
I remember very clearly the big 'evidence of john edwards' affair' tease from Ann Coulter on Hardball RIGHT BEFORE the iowa primary. it never came out.
Let's hear the tape, bitches!
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I assume nothing until a tape is produced...until then, its all speculation and hype.
If, however, there is a tape where the potential first lady is making racist remarks in a public speech....we cannot allow her in the white house. Until there is a real tape produced, this is a non-issue.
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I assume nothing until a tape is produced...until then, its all speculation and hype.
If, however, there is a tape where the potential first lady is making racist remarks in a public speech....we cannot allow her in the white house. Until there is a real tape produced, this is a non-issue.
Are you kidding?
Mrs. McCain is a former druggie. Mrs. Bush killed her ex-boyfriend.
The bar is already pretty low.
I do agree with you that it is a non-issue until the goods are produced.
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Mrs. McCain is a former druggie. Mrs. Bush killed her ex-boyfriend.
I don't believe either of those statements. Proof?
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A recovering alcoholic or recovering pain medicine abuser is much better than a racist. Additionally, Cindy McCain will never have the power that Michelle will have as first lady. John McCain has years of political history without her public interference. We see Michelle Obama giving speeches and campaigning non-stop....plus she is a lawyer and you can never shut them up...hahaha. I don't really like either one of them Decker but I see one as much less threatning than the other.
Honestly, it would be a complete insult to this country to have a first lady in 2008 that harbors racist views against whites. Unacceptible. Again, this is a non-issue unless someone comes forward with proof.
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A recovering alcoholic or recovering pain medicine abuser is much better than a racist.
Wow. Have our standards sunk to the lowest. we are justifying drug addicts over racists.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
P.S> maybe she can't speak well.
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I don't believe either of those statements. Proof?
Prescription drug addiction and theft
In 1989, Cindy McCain became addicted to ... painkillers such as Percocet and Vicodin,
The addiction progressed to where she resorted to stealing drugs from her own AVMT
Mrs. Bush ran stop sign in fatal crash
Details in a 1963 accident report say that Laura Bush, then 17, ran a stop sign in the Texas crash that killed a friend in another car.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp
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I supporting Mrs. McCain becuase a perceived racist is worse than a proven drug addict.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHHA
How fvcking stupid.
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I supporting Mrs. McCain becuase a perceived racist is worse than a proven drug addict.
Hi beachCum
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No, its not fvcking stupid. I will explain further.
Many people have overcome addictions to alcohol & pain killers to become exceptional people. It is very easy for some people to get hooked on painkillers, even if the Rx was used appropriately initially. There is a certain genetic predisposition to the effects of these substances that some people have (based on certain combinations of opioid receptors). Cindy McCain had a HISTORY of abuse, nothing about current abuse. Also, Cindy McCain is not likely to be a power hungry, aggressive first lady (as Hillary was) who is building a resume or pushing agendas. She seems intent to be in the backround supporting her husband. On the other hand, the impression many people have of Michelle is that she would be an outspoken, influential, powerful first lady that may push certain agendas from the first lady position. This is an important distinction to recognize between the two of them and quite logical.
If history proves that Michelle has expressed racists feelings publicly, then we have a real problem. We know that her thesis focused on institutional racism, which is not wrong but if it goes further, its a major issue. There was a quote made public where she said she would use all resources and efforts to help the black community above all else. This would not be tolerated if she was white. If this tape does exist and it is excused, there is a double standard.
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No, its not fvcking stupid. I will explain further.
Many people have overcome addictions to alcohol & pain killers to become exceptional people. It is very easy for some people to get hooked on painkillers, even if the Rx was used appropriately initially. There is a certain genetic predisposition to the effects of these substances that some people have (based on certain combinations of opioid receptors). Cindy McCain had a HISTORY of abuse, nothing about current abuse. Also, Cindy McCain is not likely to be a power hungry, aggressive first lady (as Hillary was) who is building a resume or pushing agendas. She seems intent to be in the backround supporting her husband. On the other hand, the impression many people have of Michelle is that she would be an outspoken, influential, powerful first lady that may push certain agendas from the first lady position. This is an important distinction to recognize between the two of them and quite logical.
If history proves that Michelle has expressed racists feelings publicly, then we have a real problem. We know that her thesis focused on institutional racism, which is not wrong but if it goes further, its a major issue. There was a quote made public where she said she would use all resources and efforts to help the black community above all else. This would not be tolerated if she was white. If this tape does exist and it is excused, there is a double standard.
IF. That's one "if" too many to make a judgment. You are a victim of Fear Spin.
Nothing has been proven.
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I always wondered what the victims family feels. Watching their sons killer living in the White House waltzing around in Air Force 1 on their tax dollars. I seriously wonder this, is it just me?
Hard to know what is and is not right nowdays. Its ok to hate Asians, use racial slurs againest Asians while a sitting US Senator, steal from a kids charity, be a former drug addict, admit to sleeping with a married man, plagarize and kill your ex boyfriend [and even have these actions defended by many]. But god forbid you say people are bitter, thats bad. Very hard to keep straight what is ok or not nowdays. I need like a list or something to help me. Someone PM me one >:(
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Nothing has been proven, thats correct...but its worth further investigation. We must know the people that are leading us...particularly with the mess thats our federal gov in recent yrs.
Haha, thats true CQ. Its kind of crazy.
Its more important to concentrate on the issues, which the media does not like to do!
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Nothing has been proven, thats correct...but its worth further investigation. We must know the people that are leading us...particularly with the mess thats our federal gov in recent yrs.
Haha, thats true CQ. Its kind of crazy.
Its more important to concentrate on the issues, which the media does not like to do!
I agree.
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"For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country" - Michelle Obama
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/02/michelle_obama_finally_proud_of_usa_/
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Is There a Shocking Michelle Obama Recording?
Monday, June 2, 2008 4:34 PM
By: Newsmax Staff
An untold story lies behind Hillary Clinton’s determination to remain in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination — the possible revelation of a shocking recording of rival Barack Obama’s wife Michelle.
That’s the word from longtime political analyst Roger J. Stone Jr., who writes on his The StoneZONE Web site that the recording purportedly documents Michelle Obama making racist comments in a speech.
According to Stone, Hillary aides are in a race with Republicans to get their hands on the offensive recording.
“On the heels of Michelle Obama’s quote that she ‘has never been proud of her country’ until now, the new controversy could turn the contest upside down, but it more likely” to benefit “John McCain than to boost Hillary Clinton to the nomination — if the alleged recording exists,” Stone writes.
He also asserts that Mark Penn, Clinton’s former chief campaign strategist, has told sources that the bombshell “could come this week.”
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Michelle_obama_tape/2008/06/02/100888.html
I saw this too last night. Was going to post it, but I didn't feel like seeing all the ugliness that it would prompt. lol And as I read through this thread, I see the very thing that stopped me from posting has come to pass. :D
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"For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country" - Michelle Obama
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/02/michelle_obama_finally_proud_of_usa_/
Beautiful!
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I saw this too last night. Was going to post it, but I didn't feel like seeing all the ugliness that it would prompt. lol And as I read through this thread, I see the very thing that stopped me from posting has come to pass. :D
lol. No doubt. I knew it would bring out the parrots, but many threads do. :)
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Serious question - why was the fact that Laura Bush killed someone not brought up in? All I hear about the mudsliging of elections, and that did not come into play? This whole "proud" thing seems to really get people. Surely killing someone is not only worse - but more effective "ammo" for the other party in 2000/4?
Can anyone here enlighten me as to why it would not have been brought up ever? Even subtley, like getting someone else to do it or something. I always hear of 'dirty politics'
Serious, I wonder - opinions welcome plz?
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Serious question - why was the fact that Laura Bush killed someone not brought up in? All I hear about the mudsliging of elections, and that did not come into play? This whole "proud" thing seems to really get people. Surely killing someone is not only worse - but more effective "ammo" for the other party in 2000/4?
Can anyone here enlighten me as to why it would not have been brought up ever? Even subtley, like getting someone else to do it or something. I always hear of 'dirty politics'
Serious, I wonder - opinions welcome plz?
It was brought up, and often, but that was 8 years ago. when Bush first ran for President.
plus here in Texas it came up, when he ran for Governor.
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Serious question - why was the fact that Laura Bush killed someone not brought up in? All I hear about the mudsliging of elections, and that did not come into play? This whole "proud" thing seems to really get people. Surely killing someone is not only worse - but more effective "ammo" for the other party in 2000/4?
Can anyone here enlighten me as to why it would not have been brought up ever? Even subtley, like getting someone else to do it or something. I always hear of 'dirty politics'
Serious, I wonder - opinions welcome plz?
She was 17 at the time. No alcohol, drugs, or speeding involved. Apparently ran a stop sign. It's a non-story.
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Thanks to you both.
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Actually Larry did not even know of the tape until 5 people told him about it, high up people. Larry has nothing to do with it other than a person who says he believes it is real.
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No alcohol, drugs, or speeding involved.
If you say so Douche Bum.
CQ I don't know if you've ever been to w. Texas, but it is about the most godawful flat dusty place on the planet. To not see someone at a stop sign is really quite amazing.
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WHAT!!!! you mean obama and his wife have racist views? who knew?
more and more these two represent whats wrong in the seperation between races and the reasons for it rather than where we all need to move to.
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where we all need to move to.
New Zealand?
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If you say so Douche Bum.
CQ I don't know if you've ever been to w. Texas, but it is about the most godawful flat dusty place on the planet. To not see someone at a stop sign is really quite amazing.
LOL guess its all in how you look at it, good hunting in west texas, its quite, not alot of commotion and at night with no clouds I swear youve never seen so many stars in your entire life...simply beautiful if you ask me.
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She was 17 at the time. No alcohol, drugs, or speeding involved. Apparently ran a stop sign. It's a non-story.
I read it was her recent ex-boyfriend that she killed in the other car, oddly. Is that true?
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Leave it to this forum to equate the actions of a 17 year old (everyone is retarded at 17) to TODAY and the racist comments of a woman who may be in the White House next year.
What does her running a stop sign at 17 have to do with ANYTHING regarding Michelle Obama? But wait, Texas is flat, she must have been drunk and on drugs!!!!! ::)
Regardless, I'll wait to see this "tape," but watching you morons go back and forth is hilarious.
Shit, I ran a red light that was red for seconds because I was distracted by my friends in the car. Perhaps I was secretly on drugs and didn't know it myself?
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Leave it to this forum to equate the actions of a 17 year old (everyone is retarded at 17) to TODAY and the racist comments of a woman who may be in the White House next year. ::)
What does her running a stop sign at 17 have to do with ANYTHING regarding Michelle Obama?
Regardless, I'll wait to see this "tape," but watching you morons go back and forth is hilarious.
Well, the statute of relevancy on "killing your ex with your car" is a bit longer than "your opinion on something", dontcha think?
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Well, the statute of relevancy on "killing your ex with your car" is a bit longer than "your opinion on something", dontcha think?
Is there any evidence of her being on drugs or drunk? Accidents happen. I barely knew how to drive at 17 and had run at least one red light at that time. Shit happens. Equating the actions of a SEVENTEEEN year old to an adult and a lawyer is pathetic. I couldn't care less what any candidate did at seventeen. I live in the now.
A car accident versus a woman who hates white people. Gee, what do I care about more? ::)
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Well, the statute of relevancy on "killing your ex with your car" is a bit longer than "your opinion on something", dontcha think?
well when "your opinion on something" has been a central theme in your life for many years if not decades or her entire life, NOOOOO
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Is there any evidence of her being on drugs or drunk? Accidents happen. I barely knew how to drive at 17 and had run at least one red light at that time. Shit happens. Equating the actions of a SEVENTEEEN year old to an adult and a lawyer is pathetic. I couldn't care less what any candidate did at seventeen. I live in the now.
If Obama burned flags in Tehran at age 17, would it be relevant to you? ;)
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If Obama burned flags in Tehran at age 17, would it be relevant to you? ;)
Well, it would just support everything that's been coming about him now. But if it turned out that he burned them at 17 and didn't have any of this radical church shit happening and hadn't done anything regarding extremism since then, then no, it wouldn't. But let's be honest, burning flags and getting into a car accident are two different things. Now we're holding people accountable for things they did 40+ years ago? Most states try 17 year olds as juveniles for most crimes. What's next, holding a guy responsible for something he did in 3rd grade? ;)
I would like to see this proof of Bush being drunk or under the influence of drugs. As it stands right now, it's speculation. Were you at the accident? Does anyone have a copy of the accident report. Video tapes? A fallacy. Which isn't surprising considering some of the other things people on this board try to pass off. This conspiracy theory bullshit ruins any credibility this forum has.
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Well, it would just support everything that's been coming about him now. But if it turned out that he burned them at 17 and didn't have any of this radical church shit happening and hadn't done anything regarding extremism since then, then no, it wouldn't. But let's be honest, burning flags and getting into a car accident are two different things. Now we're holding people accountable for things they did 40+ years ago? Most states try 17 year olds as juveniles for most crimes. What's next, holding a guy responsible for something he did in 3rd grade? ;)
I would like to see this proof of Bush being drunk or under the influence of drugs. As it stands right now, it's speculation. Were you at the accident? Does anyone have a copy of the accident report. Video tapes? A fallacy. Which isn't surprising considering some of the other things people on this board try to pass off. This conspiracy theory bullshit ruins any credibility this forum has.
Well, sometimes conspiracy theory BS is true.
People who said there were no WMD were called CTers in 2002, remember? ;)
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Well, sometimes conspiracy theory BS is true.
People who said there were no WMD were called CTers in 2002, remember? ;)
Hahaha, I knew me mentioning CTs would get that response. Was worth the laugh. True. Again, there's evidence of that at least. Where's the evidence for this accident? Blood tests, accident reports, witness claims?
I need at least SOME hard evidence to give a CT some credibility. As it stands now it's just a bunch of retards trying to save face for a racist woman.
And no, I'm not a Bush lover. I'd rather Obama be in there instead of McCain. However, I'm a realist and if this turns out to be true, then.....
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Well, it would just support everything that's been coming about him now. But if it turned out that he burned them at 17 and didn't have any of this radical church shit happening and hadn't done anything regarding extremism since then, then no, it wouldn't. But let's be honest, burning flags and getting into a car accident are two different things. Now we're holding people accountable for things they did 40+ years ago? Most states try 17 year olds as juveniles for most crimes. What's next, holding a guy responsible for something he did in 3rd grade? ;)
I would like to see this proof of Bush being drunk or under the influence of drugs. As it stands right now, it's speculation. Were you at the accident? Does anyone have a copy of the accident report. Video tapes? A fallacy. Which isn't surprising considering some of the other things people on this board try to pass off. This conspiracy theory bullshit ruins any credibility this forum has.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp
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WHAT!!!! you mean obama and his wife have racist views? who knew?
more and more these two represent whats wrong in the seperation between races and the reasons for it rather than where we all need to move to.
YEP It's a fact. they are racist pigs. Verdict is in!
and they are black on top of that. ::)
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp
Now she can go on trial for murder like her husband.
And then they might get succeeded by some druggie and her geezer husband or some commy biggots.
ahhh what a wonderful world.
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp
Interesting. She was traveling 5 mph under the speed limit, had just turned 17 and had another girl in the car. There was no stop sign facing the other guy. So what's to say that she wasn't distracted by her friend and ran a stop sign? Shit, I've done that myself. Oh wait, she must have maliciously intended to do that, got the kid out on the road and planned it perfectly. Two cars traveling at 50 mph at a right angle. It would take some serious skill to manage to pull that off perfectly. Silly me for not expecting this to be true! ::)
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hmmm. Well, us debating what happened in the car accident won't clarify anything. The only people who know what happened were at the scene. This is a much different situation IMO than Michelle Obama or Cindy McCain.
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Back on topic..the rumors of this tape surfaced last week. The first that was heard was that a "network" had the tape and was waiting for verification or something. I'm not sure what the something is or was. A few folks have mentioned it and it might hit after Hil throws n the towel. Until the main stream folks pick it up, it won't matter. The Wright tapes have been out there for awhile.
Also there is a video of Obama and local ILL. Palestinian fundraisers. He's praised by the guy on the video. There are pictures of him at the fundraisers and the guy says Obama was very comfortable in that community. Have fun withe New York jews.
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And when this tape comes out, cue the same 4 folks here to pronounce the election over, that mccain won it.
Just like they did on the rev wright issue.
And it'll be a 10 point drop in polls for 3 weeks.
Then, it'll go right back to where it is today. Watch and see.
Swing voters will say they won't vote obama because they don't want to tell a phone pollster they're okay with racism... but when it comes down to choosing between racist first lady, and iraq/economy/healthcare, I think I know which way most ppl will swing.
Who knows.. maybe Hil will still get the nod lol...
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And when this tape comes out, cue the same 4 folks here to pronounce the election over, that mccain won it.
Just like they did on the rev wright issue.
And it'll be a 10 point drop in polls for 3 weeks.
Then, it'll go right back to where it is today. Watch and see.
Swing voters will say they won't vote obama because they don't want to tell a phone pollster they're okay with racism... but when it comes down to choosing between racist first lady, and iraq/economy/healthcare, I think I know which way most ppl will swing.
Who knows.. maybe Hil will still get the nod lol...
I assume that you arent racist? that being the case would you marry somebody with views that are racist? i would hope not...obama probably shares a number of the same views as his wife and while you keep saying that this is a non issue, for many white voters it will be.
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Based on The website for Polling RealClearpolitics...thin gs are way to close. Something stupid like this and it will do enough to give McCain the win.
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I assume that you arent racist? that being the case would you marry somebody with views that are racist? i would hope not...obama probably shares a number of the same views as his wife and while you keep saying that this is a non issue, for many white voters it will be.
I agree it'll be an issue for many.
See, Mccain was kinda "iffy" on the race issue once too. He voted against MLK day, during the 80s when he was 47 years old. He knew better by age 47.
I'm sure ddeep down, being a man of that age who voted against it, Mccain probably has a little racist in him. And I'm sure Obama prefers black people to white.
I don't care about either of their beliefs in that area, because Mccain isn't going to outlaw black people, and Obama won't outlaw white people.
I care if one of them is going to bomb iran, shut down the gulf, and send the USA back to the stone ages.
I care if one of them will give my 2 uninsured neices some S-CHip kids health coverage
I care if one of them is going to tax oil companies more and cut gas prices.
That's what I care about. Obama's wife's opinion can't possibly affect you like mccain bombing iran will.
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I don't want a guy who hates this country, running it. I don't want a guy who hangs out with people who bombed the Pentagon. I don't want a guy who went to a racist church representing this country. 240 besides Iran do u know anything about where Mccain stands. This guy is a Hawkish conservative Dem.
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I agree it'll be an issue for many.
See, Mccain was kinda "iffy" on the race issue once too. He voted against MLK day, during the 80s when he was 47 years old. He knew better by age 47.
I'm sure ddeep down, being a man of that age who voted against it, Mccain probably has a little racist in him. And I'm sure Obama prefers black people to white.
I don't care about either of their beliefs in that area, because Mccain isn't going to outlaw black people, and Obama won't outlaw white people.
I care if one of them is going to bomb iran, shut down the gulf, and send the USA back to the stone ages.
I care if one of them will give my 2 uninsured neices some S-CHip kids health coverage
I care if one of them is going to tax oil companies more and cut gas prices.
That's what I care about. Obama's wife's opinion can't possibly affect you like mccain bombing iran will.
well no offense but i dont really worry about other ppl who arent insured why should other tax payers pay for that?, ya its a horrible thing that ppl go unisured but just for curiosities sake why arent your neices insured under your brothers/sisters or mates insurance through work?
I really dont think that anybody who gets into office will attack Iran...seriously doubt it even though there is talk about it, i think its just talk, just like obamas utopia made to grab votes. Neither one will do the majority of what they say, i think the next presidents hands are pretty much tied.
As far as gas prices are concerned, car pool, public transpertation...these are things that I do to ease the prices.
Obamas wifes views and undoubtedly his views make me feel that he wont represent everyone equally, and im not just talking about race, economic classes as well as others seem like they will suffer under his presidency.
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I don't want a guy who hates this country, running it. I don't want a guy who hangs out with people who bombed the Pentagon. I don't want a guy who went to a racist church representing this country. 240 besides Iran do u know anything about where Mccain stands. This guy is a Hawkish conservative Dem.
That's right OBAMA hates this country.
That's right, OBAMA chills with the taliban and AQ while they punish virgins
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I don't believe either of those statements. Proof?
google it 240 :)
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Weather Underground Ozmo. The fact that we have to debate it, means he's DQ'd. Obama won't observe the Pledge, his Church and Pastor hate white America...his wife has made her statements. He hates this version of America and does not see her like I do. He wants us to cozy to the UN and be how Europe would like the US. I don't trust this guy.
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Obama is the antichrist. I've always said that.
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Obama is the antichrist. I've always said that.
Did you decide in 1957 that he wasn't the candidate for you, Ro?
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Report: Laura Bush in 1963 Car Wreck
Associated Press Writer
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - At 17, Laura Bush ran a stop sign and crashed into another car, killing her boyfriend who was driving it, according to an accident report released to The Associated Press on Wednesday.
``It was a very tragic accident that deeply affected the families and was very painful for all involved, including the community at large,'' said her spokesman, Andrew Malcolm. ``To this day, Mrs. Bush remains unable to talk about it.''
According to the two-page accident report released Wednesday by the city of Midland, Laura Welch was driving her Chevrolet sedan on a clear night shortly after 8 p.m. on Nov. 6, 1963, when she drove into an intersection and struck a Corvair sedan driven by 17-year-old Michael Douglas.
Although previous news accounts have reported Douglas was thrown from the car and broke his neck, those details were not in the report.
The speed of Laura Bush's car was illegible on the report. The speed limit for the road was 55.
NT
That other article has her speed listed at 50 mph. Why should I believe your article? Secondly, let's be honest. Do you know how hard it is to perfectly time a collision like that? His car was going 50 mph, her car was around the same speed. He was traveling at a right angle to her. It's almost impossible for her to pull that off with malicious intent and would point towards it being more of an ACCIDENT than anything. ::)
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Weather Underground Ozmo. The fact that we have to debate it, means he's DQ'd. Obama won't observe the Pledge, his Church and Pastor hate white America...his wife has made her statements. He hates this version of America and does not see her like I do. He wants us to cozy to the UN and be how Europe would like the US. I don't trust this guy.
He won't observe the pledge? why because you saw it on a video when he didn't put his hand on his heart one time?
and the fact we have to debate it? We've had to debate bush lying so does that qualify him for impeachment?
His wife said "really proud" "Really" is part of the english language last i checked.
His church and pastor hate america? What about McCain's who thinks God punished NO for it's sins?
You are becoming a victim of fear spinning.
Attack Obama's tax plans. that's tangible and real. the other stuff is plain manipulation and you are falling for it.
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too bad her quote was " i have never been SO proud of my country until now."
nice try spinmister !
NT
You can't be this naive, that was not the original quote "spinster"...try again with accuracy this time.
Oh yea I am a Democrat who will be voting for McCain because the DNC has lost it's way and invested in losing the war in Iraq.
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It's 9:10 am
where's this tape we were promised at 9 am?
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I doubt Larry Johnson would ruin his rep and Clinton's former campaign strategeist also said the tape existed.
They have held it for 14 + months, I'm sure they are going to release it when it would be most on voters minds, and that means sometime in October
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I hope its real..this guy needs to go.
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I doubt Larry Johnson would ruin his rep and Clinton's former campaign strategeist also said the tape existed.
They have held it for 14 + months, I'm sure they are going to release it when it would be most on voters minds, and that means sometime in October
weird the clinton's wouldn't use it before Feb 5th super tuesday, or before any of the days like Penn primary.
weird she'd wait until after losing.
perhaps it would have been slightly damaging to obama, and very damaging to hilary? who knows.
it's been 2 hours... where's the tape, you lib liars?
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Who said it would be released now.
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Who said it would be released now.
that newsmax website said larry releases it at 9 am today.
cough up the tape, libby!
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Nothing mentioned now.
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240 you you have it wrong.
Larry does not have the tape. He has spoken to 5 different people who have seen it.
And it won't be coming out till October, Karl Rove now has a copy of the tape, and is using it to raise funds for the republican independent groups.
The party plans to release it October, just as I predicted. Nothing good would come of releasing it now, the race is set in stone Obama vs McCain, why pull a trigger when you have not even finished loading the gun?
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Also it's been confirmed already by a mutlitude of people with backgrounds that are linked to this sort of stuff, you can spin it's "non existence"
but
other than John Fund, Larry Johnson, Rush, and Rove, also
Roger Sloane...
who happens to be the man who broke the Elliott Spitzer prostitution scandal.
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I had heard that a network has the tape...right from Larry, so what keeps them from releasing it. I am starting to wonder.
On another note alot of top GOP guys never really worried, or seem worried about Obama. He always worried me. He had a good organization and his ridiculous speeches inspired people, all BS but Americans are easily swayed. These guys never seemed worried. Either they underestimated him, or looked at him as no serious threat, regardless of whether he got the Nom. Maybe they figure they have enough on him.
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Gotta know when to hold and know when to fold.
Someone now only made a fortune giving up the tape, but the GOP will make a fortune, behind closed doors showing people the tape is real, and watching the checks being written.
Also mind you that like 240 said in another thread people have short short memory, no one even remembers that Obama has tow people from the Nation of Islam working for him, so how are they going to remember this tape when the steam is lost.
You need to reach 212 degrees for boiling point, this tape will reach that, but water cools sooner or later.
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Perhaps they're bluffing.
"we have a secret weapon. we'll show you later. Give us $ now!"
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If there is a tape, it wouldn't make sense to release it now. The fall would be the best time to try to sway independent voters. If there is a tape....
If Hillary had access to the tape and didn't use it already, I would be very surprised. If the tape recently surfaced, she does not benefit by making it public, particularly since she may have the opportunity to be VP.
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If Hillary had access to the tape and didn't use it already
I thought that too, but if she used it, then she would be responsibile and blamed for dividing the democratic party, it would be a move the conservatives would live since it would be internal combustion with no interference.
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My old friend, Larry Johnson
He promises to produce this tape tomorrow at 9am.
From what I understand, it is a tape of Michelle Obama criticizing the Bush administration.
it's almost 5 hours late.
where's the tape?
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If it exists it will be seen in october. Then mccain can gain some leverage and destroy whatever part of america is left.
God help us all, if another insane geriatric patient runs the govt.....
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"Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran"
a Whiney Geezer may be our next president. how cool. We'll all get $5 checks for christmas.
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Oh yea I am a Democrat who will be voting for McCain because the DNC has lost it's way and invested in losing the war in Iraq.
You're not a Democrat, you're an idiot.
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You're not a Democrat, you're an idiot.
Agreed. Someone trying to stop the war means trying to lose it as far your basic dumb ass can think
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I disagree, the DNC has lost it's way. Guess you two idiots are not aware that the FBI arrested 2 people in the US with connections to Iraq, and Al Q, who were buying supplies to build a dirty bomb in the United States all the while your lips were glued to Obama's ass.
1 of the terrorist was in the US on a work visa, he was an engineer in California.
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I disagree, the DNC has lost it's way. Guess you two idiots are not aware that the FBI arrested 2 people in the US with connections to Iraq, and Al Q, who were buying supplies to build a dirty bomb in the United States all the while your lips were glued to Obama's ass.
1 of the terrorist was in the US on a work visa, he was an engineer in California.
and that has what to do with the DNC?
::)
Are hurricanes going to be blamed on the dems too?
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blah, blah, blah. another non-issue. ::)
how about tackling real issues like: record gas prices ? escalating food prices ? record inflation ? our worthless dollar ? home foreclosures ? the iraq war abortion ? 12 billion dollars "burned" per month in iraq ?
i'll assume those issue's are too difficult.......
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So you agree you were incorrect? Excellent...let me address your points:
Gas Prices: Drill in Alaska, North Dakota and Gulf Coast and build more refineries in America. Problem solved.
Record inflation: What are you talking about? No record inflation here in America. Wise up!
Worthless Dollar?: 10 years ago the Euro was trading at .75 to the dollar. Give me all your worthless Dollars and speak like you are not a left wing lunatic and my interest will actually increase with your posts. There are many good things about a wee(er) dollar, I won't get into it for it will confuse you :). Not a problem....YET.
Home Forclosures: Let the idiots who were too stupid to understand the situation learn the hard way. Fine moronic lenders. Problem solved
Take oil revenue from Iraq to finance the war and payback it's monetary debt to America. Problem Solved
I have a feeling this is above your level of intellect based off your posts but feel free to ask for help, the goal is to educate you, not insult you.
Cheerio ;D
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You're not a Democrat, you're an idiot.
Impressive for a 12 year old.
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So you agree you were incorrect? Excellent...let me address your points:
Gas Prices: Drill in Alaska, North Dakota and Gulf Coast and build more refineries in America. Problem solved.
Record inflation: What are you talking about? No record inflation here in America. Wise up!
Worthless Dollar?: 10 years ago the Euro was trading at .75 to the dollar. Give me all your worthless Dollars and speak like you are not a left wing lunatic and my interest will actually increase with your posts. There are many good things about a wee(er) dollar, I won't get into it for it will confuse you :). Not a problem....YET.
Home Forclosures: Let the idiots who were too stupid to understand the situation learn the hard way. Fine moronic lenders. Problem solved
Take oil revenue from Iraq to finance the war and payback it's monetary debt to America. Problem Solved
I have a feeling this is above your level of intellect based off your posts but feel free to ask for help, the goal is to educate you, not insult you.
Cheerio ;D
You seem to try to hard. You are a retard who read a book with bad information.
I suggest you crawl back up youre mommas hoosie and start over.......
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Also it's been confirmed already by a mutlitude of people with backgrounds that are linked to this sort of stuff, you can spin it's "non existence"
but
other than John Fund, Larry Johnson, Rush, and Rove, also
Roger Sloane...
who happens to be the man who broke the Elliott Spitzer prostitution scandal.
The funny thing is that none of these people claim to have actually seen the tape. They only claim to have spoken to someone who has seen the tape. And realistically, all of those people are probably referring to the same single source: the Clinton staffer who introduced this shallow, stupid ploy.
We all know that there is no tape. This was a ploy and it failed. The GOP loves the rumor because now they can perpetuate this urban legend and it can do for them what it couldn't do for Hilary.
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You seem to try to hard. You are a retard who read a book with bad information.
I suggest you crawl back up youre mommas hoosie and start over.......
Take a deep breath...the truth hurts and you you are hurting. Give it some time and you will recover and one day see the light that represents the truth you now ignore.
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Take a deep breath...the truth hurts and you you are hurting. Give it some time and you will recover and one day see the light that represents the truth you now ignore.
Massive self-deflection.
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Massive self-deflection.
I agree you need to work on Topic Diversion allow me to enlighten you as to where it all began and please don't get upset :) :
You seem to try to hard. You are a retard who read a book with bad information.
I suggest you crawl back up youre mommas hoosie and start over.......
Please thank me for educating you.
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Hahaha. Where did this new douche crawl out from? Sounds like that rambo "i'm a novelist" douche.
I love warm welcomes....couldn't you at least called me a "gimmick" account?
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I agree you need to work on Topic Diversion allow me to enlighten you as to where it all began and please don't get upset :) :
Please thank me for educating you.
You ever seen that little yappy dog that rushes at you from the saftey of the chain link fence.....thats you.
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You ever seen that little yappy dog that rushes at you from the saftey of the chain link fence.....thats you.
Epic topic diversion! Try again...but stay on topic :-*
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Epic topic diversion! Try again...but stay on topic :-*
Holy shit youre lame. Put your rubber helmet back on.
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Holy shit youre lame. Put your rubber helmet back on.
Just ignore him and maybe he'll go away.
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Holy shit youre lame. Put your rubber helmet back on.
Please stay on topic and be a good sport. Just because your intellectual inferiority is easily exposed be me doesn't mean you have to try and hijack the thread.
Try you're....instead of "youre" :-*
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Just ignore him and maybe he'll go away.
Seems to be as un original as brixton. Young and empty headed.
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Seems to be as un original as brixton. Young and empty headed.
Don't take it so personal...cheer up chap! Obama is the favorite to win the election. HAHAHA!
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Seems to be as un original as brixton. Young and empty headed.
Maybe I should call that rambo clown's law office and ask if they're missing a gimmick.
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what kind of lawyer are you?
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what kind of lawyer are you?
One who couldn't get into a good school. ;D
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what kind of lawyer are you?
I assume you're talking to me and not the paralegal Calmus who is sweating out his bar results (for the second time, seeing as how he implicitly admitted he had already "shot a blank" on his first try- sort of what his skank is telling his purportedly future in-laws).
Me? I'm a civil attorney for hire. The kind that wins.
P.S. Jethro, were still waiting to hear what school you went to? It seems only one of us has the balls to put out his resume.
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Me? I'm a civil attorney for hire. The kind that wins.
why civil law?
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Wasn't it supposed to be released days ago?
Someone link me the youtube please.
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Wasn't it supposed to be released days ago?
Someone link me the youtube please.
It was never released.
Its existence was only hinted at by Rush Limbaugh to motivate nervous republican donors to start giving money.
The backlash might be ugly, except repub donors like being lied to.
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Wasn't it supposed to be released days ago?
Someone link me the youtube please.
it was not what people thought they'd heard. www.michelemalkin.com has direct info.
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it was not what people thought they'd heard. www.michelemalkin.com has direct info.
It was never released.
Its existence was only hinted at by Rush Limbaugh to motivate nervous republican donors to start giving money.
The backlash might be ugly, except repub donors like being lied to.
Please don't be silly. In no way could this be made up to slander Obama.
Of course there is a video. Stop withholding the link and dish it out!
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Based on the subject at hand, I really would like to think that this speculation about Obama's wife does not become some true story about his wife making some controversial comments attributed to her talking about race in the known stereotype of a black woman acting out by saying offensive things for whatever reason she would have to do so.
This ponders the question that is generally out there about why are the black women so mean for no reason very often ???
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Based on the subject at hand, I really would like to think that this speculation about Obama's wife does not become some true story about his wife making some controversial comments attributed to her talking about race in the known stereotype of a black woman acting out by saying offensive things for whatever reason she would have to do so.
This ponders the question that is generally out there about why are the black women so mean for no reason very often ???
It boils down to very low-self esteem and vulnerability. Black women have the lowest self esteem than any other woman in America. Look at all the Hair products and weaves that are pushed, just go down the isle in any Convience store and look at the Perm kits for black women, showing "silky", "straight hair", and a smiling black woman... indicating that you need this type of hairdo to be attractive.
Also the person who is always overly aggressive tends to be the person who is hiding the fact that they are vulnerable or wounded, like a wounded animal.
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The odd thing about this debate (now that Clap-puss and War-Whore (WH) are busy spooning in the back of the SUV WH's Mommy bought for him while Clap-puss's Un-wed mother Stank looks on. . . )
Okay I digress, interestingly, none of the pablum-puking lefties on this sight defend that Michelle-O actually would have said such things (on this the record is abundantly clear-- yes, with a husband that refers to the "typical white person"). Rather, the debate is on whether the opposition got lucky, whether it was in fact captured electronically. Very much in the "you can't prove OJ did it" vein (even though we know he did). What a pathetic happenstance to wager a presidency upon. Then again, a pathetic lot in general.
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The odd thing about this debate (now that Clapmus and War-Whore (WH) are busy spooning in the back of the SUV WH's Mommy bought for him while Clapmus's "Stank" looks on. . . )
Okay I digresss, none of the pablum-puking lefties on this sight defend that Michelle-O actually would have said such things (on this the record is abundantly clear). Rather, the debate is on whether the opposition got lucky, whether it was in fact captured electronically. Very much in the "OJ is innocent" vein. What a pathetic happenstance to wager a presidency upon.
That's the nice thing about McCain.........no speculation needed. He declared his hatred for "Gooks" in public.
BTW, i think the issue is whether there is a tape or not. Not whether she would or wouldn't say it.
Perhaps you should start that thread. ;)
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That's the nice thing about McCain.........no speculation needed. He declared his hatred for "Gooks" in public.
BTW, i think the issue is whether there is a tape or not. Not whether she would or wouldn't say it.
Perhaps you should start that thread. ;)
NO the important issue is whether she would say it. The lefties are cowering and crossing their fingers thinking I know she probably did say it . . . did we get caught?
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NO the important issue is whether she would say it. The lefties are cowering and crossing their fingers thinking I know she probably did say it . . . did we get caught?
That's an assumption fed by bias.
Assuming "lefties" are thinking that is reaching.
Obama has many more tangible things to discredit his bid than this fear spin garbage because unless there is a tape, there's not much to talk about.
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That's an assumption fed by bias.
Assuming "lefties" are thinking that is reaching.
Obama has many more tangible things to discredit his bid than this fear spin garbarage because unless there is a tape, there's not much to talk about.
Are you f'ing kidding me, there is so much anti-white garbage swirling around him, it is rediculous. It's like swirling crap in the grabrage disposal and the libs are quibbling about which food the mush came from.
Really!!
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Are you f'ing kidding me, there is so much anti-white garbrage swirling around him, it is rediculous. It's like swirling crap in the grabrage disposal and the libs are quibbling about which food the mush came from.
Really!!
Ok, he went to a church with a kooky preacher. Many preachers are nuts, like the one that called Katrina God's punishment for New Orlean's sins. Or the actual candidate making an actual statement from his actual mouth: "I HATE GOOKS"
But other than that what else you got that's anti-white garbage swirling around him?
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that would be very hypocritical of obama.
let's hear the tape!!!!!!!!!!!!
I remember very clearly the big 'evidence of john edwards' affair' tease from Ann Coulter on Hardball RIGHT BEFORE the iowa primary. it never came out.
Let's hear the tape, bitches!
I was WRONG about this.
Ann Coulter was RIGHT about John Edwards, and the National Enquirer was right about John Edwards.