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AP - Barack Obama effectively clinched the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday after a grueling marathon, based on an Associated Press tally of convention delegates, becoming the first black candidate ever to lead his party into a fall campaign for the White House.
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what, no comments :D must be old news to everyone. To bad Clinton didn't get the memo :)
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Will whites recover?
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CNN projects Obama clinches nomination
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama has clinched the Democratic nomination for president, according to CNN estimates, making him the first African-American in U.S. history to lead a major-party ticket.
Obama picked up a slew of superdelegate endorsements on Tuesday. Those endorsements, combined with the delegates he's projected to receive from South Dakota's primary, will put him past the 2,118 threshold, according to CNN estimates.
Speaking in New York, Sen. Hillary Clinton, congratulated Obama for his campaign, but she did not concede the race nor discuss the possibility of running as vice president.
"This has been a long campaign, and I will be making no decisions tonight," she said.
Clinton said she would meet with supporters and party leaders in the coming days to determine her next steps.
CNN has projected that Clinton will win the primary in South Dakota. Polls close in Montana at 10 p.m. ET.
Obama will claim victory during a speech in St. Paul, Minnesota, according to prepared remarks released by his campaign.
"Tonight we mark the end of one historic journey with the beginning of another -- a journey that will bring a new and better day to America," he's expected to say.
"Tonight, I can stand before you and say that I will be the Democratic nominee for president of the United States."
Obama will hold a rally at the Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul, Minnesota, the same arena which will house the 2008 Republican National Convention in September.
Obama is expected to praise Clinton's campaign. He has been speaking favorably of the New York senator as his focus has turned toward the general election and his battle against John McCain, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee.
"Senator Hillary Clinton has made history in this campaign not just because she's a woman who has done what no woman has done before, but because she's a leader who inspires millions of Americans with her strength, her courage, and her commitment to the causes that brought us here tonight," Obama will say.
Two New York lawmakers told CNN on Tuesday that Clinton expressed willingness during a conference call to serve as Obama's running mate in November. Watch the latest on a possible joint ticket »
One of the lawmakers said Clinton's husband, former President Bill Clinton, has been pushing the idea privately for several weeks. But in a statement issued Tuesday afternoon, her campaign said there was nothing new in her remarks.
"Today on a conference call with New York legislators, Sen. Clinton was asked whether she was open to the idea of running as vice president and repeated what she has said before: She would do whatever she could to ensure that Democrats take the White House back and defeat John McCain," the former first lady's campaign said in a written statement Tuesday afternoon. Watch what could be in store in Clinton's future »
Former President Jimmy Carter and Rep. James Clyburn, the No. 3 Democrat in the House and the highest ranking African-American in Congress, were two of the most prominent superdelegate endorsements that Obama picked up. Watch Clyburn endorse Obama »
"I came to that decision because I do believe that he has elevated this campaign," Clyburn said. "He has energized our constituents. He is redrawing an electoral map for Democrats."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/03/election.democrats/index.html
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I just finished listening to all of the speeches given tonight (McCain, Clinton, and Obama who just stepped off stage). Obama can get the crowd popping big time. Clinton got her crowd jacked up with her speech, and it's looking like she's going to continue her pleas to the super delegates. Only caught the last 15 minutes of McCain's speech. It looked and felt like he was speaking at the back of the town diner. The commentators were giving him props for his speech tonight, which I heard he spent 3 weeks working on. That's not good at all, because what I heard tonight from McCain left me thinking that he has ALOT of work to do. Having said that though, I think Sen. Obama was in his element tonight speaking in front of the crown. When the debates start soon, I think the momentum will swing heavily over to Sen. McCain, because he is a much better debater than Sen. Obama. Sen. Obama has struggled tremendously in the debates. He performs extremely poorly (very unsure of his thoughts and words) in a debate setting.
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yeah, mccain had that fake, over the top smile on him.
he's much more credible as the stoic, focused speaker. when he tries be be funny, the lines just do not deliver.
obama started poor in the debates, but was pretty good by the 20th. I think this long pre-season will have him VERY prepared for mccain. If he had clinched on feb 5, he'd be a lot softer right now. he's been thru what, 14 months of nonstop campaigning?
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yeah, mccain had that fake, over the top smile on him.
disgusting, repulsive
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yeah, mccain had that fake, over the top smile on him.
he's much more credible as the stoic, focused speaker. when he tries be be funny, the lines just do not deliver.
obama started poor in the debates, but was pretty good by the 20th. I think this long pre-season will have him VERY prepared for mccain. If he had clinched on feb 5, he'd be a lot softer right now. he's been thru what, 14 months of nonstop campaigning?
Even worse when you consider how much he still struggles in interview settings and after some 20 debates, he's still stumbling for rebutting statements. He's got alot of work to do in this area.
Does he HAVE to select Sen. Clinton to win the nomination in November? I don't think he does.
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I just finished listening to all of the speeches given tonight (McCain, Clinton, and Obama who just stepped off stage). Obama can get the crowd popping big time. Clinton got her crowd jacked up with her speech, and it's looking like she's going to continue her pleas to the super delegates. Only caught the last 15 minutes of McCain's speech. It looked and felt like he was speaking at the back of the town diner. The commentators were giving him props for his speech tonight, which I heard he spent 3 weeks working on. That's not good at all, because what I heard tonight from McCain left me thinking that he has ALOT of work to do. Having said that though, I think Sen. Obama was in his element tonight speaking in front of the crown. When the debates start soon, I think the momentum will swing heavily over to Sen. McCain, because he is a much better debater than Sen. Obama. Sen. Obama has struggled tremendously in the debates. He performs extremely poorly (very unsure of his thoughts and words) in a debate setting.
That's my impression too. Obama gives a great speech, but was pretty average in debates. He didn't really impress me. I doubt he walks over McCain during the debates because he will be limited to sound bites. Definitely has a lot of work to do.
We might see a repeat of Bush v. Gore, where the expectations were so high for Gore and so low for Bush that all Bush had to do was essentially walk and chew gum to perform well at the debates.
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yeah, mccain had that fake, over the top smile on him.
he's much more credible as the stoic, focused speaker. when he tries be be funny, the lines just do not deliver.
obama started poor in the debates, but was pretty good by the 20th. I think this long pre-season will have him VERY prepared for mccain. If he had clinched on feb 5, he'd be a lot softer right now. he's been thru what, 14 months of nonstop campaigning?
Obama is not a good debater. But he did do better in the later debates. However, he is better than McCain. As long as Obama doesn't start talking about lock-boxes, he should be fine.
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Obama can't think on his feet. If he has sound bites and telepromters he's great. He'll do great in the first few sentances of debate answers but when he has to rebutt or do follow ups...he's done. Plus McCain and his group are preparing for this guy. Hil's camp couldn't figure out how to deal with him. All McCain has to do is go after his Lib stances on issues, and his lack of any real substance.
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I saw some of it...fair to crappy. he should have said...hey big day for America, first black nominee etc etc....look forward to a great race...end of speech. I am soooo thrilled with my choice for president.
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Yeah...I have no idea about that tape. Mccain needs to just be McCain...an angry Conservative Dem, and he can win. The media loves this guy, he just needs to act how he used to. I heard him speak at K-State in 1998/99...great speech.
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Mcbush is so unsure of himself. He lacks confidence, and rightly so. Sometimes you can read in his eyes........WTH have I done???