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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Condor on June 06, 2008, 02:38:45 PM
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This is the first time I've seen this pic, not sure when it's from, but Paris really dwarfs these two guys here, yet I'm not even sure he ever placed ahead of either one of them.
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Of course, they're dwarves.
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Of course, they're dwarves.
From this pose he looks way superior.......so why did he never place ahead of them?
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Looks like it's from one of the Grand Prix's after the 1988 Olympia, maybe Spain. Those were all won by both Labrada and Gaspari. Paris looks much better there than he did for the Olympia.
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well you cant see much difference in conditionin in that pic, the muscularity seems to be about even between them all... but labrada has the best x- frame going on so id give it to him actually
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imo paris is absolutely killing those guys there
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He couldn't touch Gaspari when they turned to do their back shots
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imo paris is
I agree, it just blows my mind that the other two are regarded as "legends," and clearly here Bob is making a mockery of them.
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imo paris is
I agree, it just blows my mind that the other two are regarded as "legends," and clearly here Bob is making a mockery of them.
hi bob
lol
explain how your assessing the physiques if you feel so strongly that paris is the best bodybuilder on the stage
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(http://www.vincesteven.com/ecrire/upload/Image/BOB%20PARIS/Bob%20Paris2.jpg)
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He couldn't touch Gaspari when they turned to do their back shots
Looks pretty friggin wide here, from the '83 World Championships, on the right.
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hi bob
lol
explain how your assessing the physiques if you feel so strongly that paris is the best bodybuilder on the stage
Wider shoulders than both, better capped shoulders than Gaspari, better arms and forearms than both, better cuts in legs than both....
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Labrada was definitely better than Paris, but I'm not so sure about Gaspari - I think overall Paris had him beat. There's nothing too appealing about Gaspari's physique for me.
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Labrada was definitely better than Paris, but I'm not so sure about Gaspari - I think overall Paris had him beat. There's nothing too appealing about Gaspari's physique for me.
Hi Labrada.
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Wider shoulders than both, better capped shoulders than Gaspari, better arms and forearms than both, better cuts in legs than both....
i see where you are getting that from. im sure paris's actual shoulder width is greater than both. but hes also taller. he needs to have a greater actual measurement of shoulder width. but what really determines should width is the shoulder to waist ration... because it does not matter if a guy has a 60 inch shoulders if he has a 50 inch waist. see what i mean? i kind see what you mean about his shoulder caps (side delts), and i wouldnt argue that paris has slightly better development there. i dont see his arms and forearms as being any better than labradas or gaspari's i think in actual measurement they are very similar... but on a smaller frame with smaller bones labarada's arms would win that comparison. paris has cuts in his legs, but they are very narrow... no much "X" to his frame.. more like a "V" on top of a " l "
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Hi Labrada.
Haha, ah yes, the old "Hi (insert pro's name here)" joke.
Didn't see that one coming.
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i see where you are getting that from. im sure paris's actual shoulder width is greater than both. but hes also taller. he needs to have a greater actual measurement of shoulder width. but what really determines should width is the shoulder to waist ration... because it does not matter if a guy has a 60 inch shoulders if he has a 50 inch waist. see what i mean? i kind see what you mean about his shoulder caps (side delts), and i wouldnt argue that paris has slightly better development there. i dont see his arms and forearms as being any better than labradas or gaspari's i think in actual measurement they are very similar... but on a smaller frame with smaller bones labarada's arms would win that comparison. paris has cuts in his legs, but they are very narrow... no much "X" to his frame.. more like a "V" on top of a " l "
Speaking of the "X" frame, Paris also has a smaller waist than Gaspari, who is much shorter...
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That's what you called bodybuilding!!
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Outstanding physique
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Someone throw up some some decent shots of Gaspari and own this little pillow biter. >:(
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Someone throw up some some decent shots of Gaspari and own this little pillow biter. >:(
;)
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what's up with these types of posts ???
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Paris was one of the few faithful body builders to the IFBB and the Weider empire during all the ups and downs but once he came out of the closet and married his gay lover it was all over for him.
I think being openly gay especially during that time had a lot to do with his bad placings.
In the 1980s the 2 guys I wanted to look like..... Bob Paris and Lee Labrada.
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Paris lacked conditioning, thick guy for sure
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It's hard to tell from one pic, but judging from this one, he is clearing the best one on stage.
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Paris was one of the few faithful body builders to the IFBB and the Weider empire during all the ups and downs but once he came out of the closet and married his gay lover it was all over for him.
I think being openly gay especially during that time had a lot to do with his bad placings.
In the 1980s the 2 guys I wanted to look like..... Bob Paris and Lee Labrada.
I just finished reading Paris's book "The Gorilla Suit" and he said his lower placings as a pro had to do with his reluctance to take higher doses of steroids and growth hormone. He said the judges wanted a freakier physique and he actually cut back the amount of drugs he was taking for the 1995 Olympia instead of taking more. He didn't come out of the closet until a 1989 IronMan Magazine interview but, he says, everyone in the industry knew he was gay since he turned pro in 1983.
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This is the first time I've seen this pic, not sure when it's from, but Paris really dwarfs these two guys here, yet I'm not even sure he ever placed ahead of either one of them.
Seems like Paris is closer to the camera...his forearms are a ahead of Lee and the other guy who is cut out of the picture. Paris almost looks as big a Haney, which he he never was...
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I just finished reading Paris's book "The Gorilla Suit" and he said his lower placings as a pro had to do with his reluctance to take higher doses of steroids and growth hormone. He said the judges wanted a freakier physique and he actually cut back the amount of drugs he was taking for the 1995 Olympia instead of taking more. He didn't come out of the closet until a 1989 IronMan Magazine interview but, he says, everyone in the industry knew he was gay since he turned pro in 1983.
I read that book too John great read , they judges constantly told him he needed to be bigger and whats funny is he was one of the heavier pros in 88 he was 226 pounds but at 6'0" thats a large frame his story about first taking GH was funny but its ironic because he talks about the reaction of everyday people to his size ( the story at the icecream place ) and re was regarded as not big enough to be the best
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I just finished reading Paris's book "The Gorilla Suit" and he said his lower placings as a pro had to do with his reluctance to take higher doses of steroids and growth hormone. He said the judges wanted a freakier physique and he actually cut back the amount of drugs he was taking for the 1995 Olympia instead of taking more. He didn't come out of the closet until a 1989 IronMan Magazine interview but, he says, everyone in the industry knew he was gay since he turned pro in 1983.
I think you mean the 1985 Olympia, not 1995.
That is a fantastic book, but I almost disagree with Bob about him needing to take more or be bigger. Maybe for the Olympia against Haney, but not against the likes of Labrada, Gaspari, Demey, etc., in smaller contests. I'd say he held his own size-wise against those guys. I think it might have been more about him being gay.
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It's hard to tell from one pic, but judging from this one, he is clearing the best one on stage.
True, It'll be cool if more picts are posted from that show....
Those were the days when BB was marketable.
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I think you mean the 1985 Olympia, not 1995.
That is a fantastic book, but I almost disagree with Bob about him needing to take more or be bigger. Maybe for the Olympia against Haney, but not against the likes of Labrada, Gaspari, Demey, etc., in smaller contests. I'd say he held his own size-wise against those guys. I think it might have been more about him being gay.
Yes, Condor, my mistake, I meant to say 1985. In that contest, if you remember, Gaspari was the big, freaky guy weighing about 215 ripped and vascular with shredded glutes and Haney was pretty freaky himself, weighing close to 250 ripped and vascular also. Then you had Albert Beckles, Mike Christian and Berry DeMey and they were all big and ripped so Paris, in comparison, didn't have enough mass and wasn't freaky and ripped like the top six. In 1988, where that picture is from, Gaspari was smaller because he was trying to lean out and keep his waist down instead of trying to compete with Haney for size and Labrada was never that huge, only about 176 there.
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what's up with these types of posts ???
Arce's trademark.
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maybe not the best pic but nonetheless three damn good bodybuilders 8)
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Outstanding physique
that is a great pic
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Yes, Condor, my mistake, I meant to say 1985. In that contest, if you remember, Gaspari was the big, freaky guy weighing about 215 ripped and vascular with shredded glutes and Haney was pretty freaky himself, weighing close to 250 ripped and vascular also. Then you had Albert Beckles, Mike Christian and Berry DeMey and they were all big and ripped so Paris, in comparison, didn't have enough mass and wasn't freaky and ripped like the top six. In 1988, where that picture is from, Gaspari was smaller because he was trying to lean out and keep his waist down instead of trying to compete with Haney for size and Labrada was never that huge, only about 176 there.
ggod post,beckles was ok great arms peaked good condition was older by then paris could easily outshape him,christians upper body was probably the only one that stood a chance against haney then.demey was great one of the guys then who's build i liked ,i think paris was bigger muscular wise to berry,berry's conditioning especially 88 was off the charts.paris is a magazines dream for selling copies any relaxed shot or cover shot was gold,training pics did him no justice,stage or cover is where he was gold.
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i didnt know he was in the O in 95. does anyone have a pic?
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I read that book too John great read , they judges constantly told him he needed to be bigger and whats funny is he was one of the heavier pros in 88 he was 226 pounds but at 6'0" thats a large frame his story about first taking GH was funny but its ironic because he talks about the reaction of everyday people to his size ( the story at the icecream place ) and re was regarded as not big enough to be the best
He was actually up to 248 pounds in 1984, but for some reason lost the weight. Take into account he had been successful as a light heavyweight (198 pounds) before making a real name for himself.
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i didnt know he was in the O in 95. does anyone have a pic?
No, the guy meant '85, not '95. Paris has been retired for a few years by then.
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Yes, Condor, my mistake, I meant to say 1985. In that contest, if you remember, Gaspari was the big, freaky guy weighing about 215 ripped and vascular with shredded glutes and Haney was pretty freaky himself, weighing close to 250 ripped and vascular also. Then you had Albert Beckles, Mike Christian and Berry DeMey and they were all big and ripped so Paris, in comparison, didn't have enough mass and wasn't freaky and ripped like the top six. In 1988, where that picture is from, Gaspari was smaller because he was trying to lean out and keep his waist down instead of trying to compete with Haney for size and Labrada was never that huge, only about 176 there.
Labrada was competing in his 190's by the early 90's.
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Labrada was competing in his 190's by the early 90's.
Right, but that picture was from 1988 and he weighed in at 176 at the '88 Olympia.
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I just finished reading Paris's book "The Gorilla Suit" and he said his lower placings as a pro had to do with his reluctance to take higher doses of steroids and growth hormone. He said the judges wanted a freakier physique and he actually cut back the amount of drugs he was taking for the 1995 Olympia instead of taking more. He didn't come out of the closet until a 1989 IronMan Magazine interview but, he says, everyone in the industry knew he was gay since he turned pro in 1983.
Everyone in Venice/LA knew Paris was gay before he won Nationals.
In fact right after Paris won the Natinals in 83 he did a lot of guest posing, and when the posters for local shows were put up at Gold's Venice, with Bob as guest poser with a pic, everyone would write FAG across Paris's picture. Pretty stupid shit-but that was the mentality back then.
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From this pose he looks way superior.......so why did he never place ahead of them?
because he was gay.
seriously.
i read his book.
joe weider brutalized him...
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because he was gay.
seriously.
i read his book.
joe weider brutalized him...
also i found it interesting he was as with other pros scarfing and saving pennies to buy like .5 iu;s of Gh from docs back in the early 80's.
guys didn't know how lucky they had it back then with steroids still being half way legal and all dbol etc real human grade stuff potent pure and roll...
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also i found it interesting he was as with other pros scarfing and saving pennies to buy like .5 iu;s of Gh from docs back in the early 80's.
guys didn't know how lucky they had it back then with steroids still being half way legal and all dbol etc real human grade stuff potent pure and roll...
You got that shit right.
We can thank Dan Duchaine and 2 other guys for starting the counterfeit steroid revolution in 84/85. Fucking assholes.
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Right, but that picture was from 1988 and he weighed in at 176 at the '88 Olympia.
Agreed