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someone just benching for example do you reckon he's a powerlifter even though he doesn squat or deadlift
discuss
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lmao
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it goeson
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This "bench specialist" stuff has gotten so ridiculous. I mean, where are the deadlift and squat specialists? Fact is, numbers increase SO slowly on the other two powerlifts because the support gear for each doesn't aid the lifter to the same degree as does the bench gear.
The sport of powerlifting has taken a massive hit with the proliferation of mega-tech support gear, regardless. It's hard to take seriously. And this is coming from a powerlifter!
Man, I am getting way off base here. Sorry. No, I feel the lifter who ONLY performs the bench press in competition is NOT a powerlifter. Not in the purist sense he isn't.
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someone just benching for example do you reckon he's a powerlifter even though he doesn squat or deadlift
discuss
Now that's some deep shit Billy Falcon!
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This "bench specialist" stuff has gotten so ridiculous. I mean, where are the deadlift and squat specialists?
deadlift
benedikt magnusson
konstantin konstantinovs
andy bolton - in the past
brad gillingham
squat
jeff lewis
shane hamman - prior to going oly lifting
chuck vogelpohl
mike miller - argue about his depth all you want, point remains
brent mikesell
shall i go on? these are guys who basically get (or got) really really good at one lift, only training the others just to stay competitive.
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deadlift
benedikt magnusson
konstantin konstantinovs
andy bolton - in the past
brad gillingham
squat
jeff lewis
shane hamman - prior to going oly lifting
chuck vogelpohl
mike miller - argue about his depth all you want, point remains
brent mikesell
shall i go on? these are guys who basically get (or got) really really good at one lift, only training the others just to stay competitive.
whatabout the question
THE QUESTION GODDAMMIT
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This "bench specialist" stuff has gotten so ridiculous. I mean, where are the deadlift and squat specialists? Fact is, numbers increase SO slowly on the other two powerlifts because the support gear for each doesn't aid the lifter to the same degree as does the bench gear.
The sport of powerlifting has taken a massive hit with the proliferation of mega-tech support gear, regardless. It's hard to take seriously. And this is coming from a powerlifter!
Man, I am getting way off base here. Sorry. No, I feel the lifter who ONLY performs the bench press in competition is NOT a powerlifter. Not in the purist sense he isn't.
Good post.
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whatabout the question
THE QUESTION GODDAMMIT
i say they are, sure. it's someone training to be more powerful at a given lift.
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i say they are, sure. it's someone training to be more powerful at a given lift.
like leg extensions? does that qualify as powerlifting
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like leg extensions? does that qualify as powerlifting
powerlifting is, by definition, three lifts. if you compete and train for any of them, or any combination thereof, you're a powerlifter. many meets offer bench only, push/pull, three lift, etc. thus if you compete or train to compete in any such competition, you are, by definition, a powerlifter.
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powerlifting is, by definition, three lifts. if you compete and train for any of them, or any combination thereof, you're a powerlifter. many meets offer bench only, push/pull, three lift, etc. thus if you compete or train to compete in any such competition, you are, by definition, a powerlifter.
if powerlifting by definition is three lifts then you need to compete in all three to be a powerlifter dontcha
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deadlift
benedikt magnusson
konstantin konstantinovs
andy bolton - in the past
brad gillingham
squat
jeff lewis
shane hamman - prior to going oly lifting
chuck vogelpohl
mike miller - argue about his depth all you want, point remains
brent mikesell
shall i go on? these are guys who basically get (or got) really really good at one lift, only training the others just to stay competitive.
Chuck has an 835 deadlift, I'd say that is a bit more than "competitive."
I think Brent hit at 855 deadlift, and definitely has gone over 800lbs.
Bolton had a world record 1,213 squat and the highest 3 lift total in history. I don't think he can be considered a specialist in any manner.
There are just many, many more people that specialize in the bench for numerous reasons.
People that do full meets will want to say specialists aren't powerlifters.
People that specialize will want to say they are powerlifters.
And since the entire point of the internet is to argue against things, the debate will never end.
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Yes, but that's only because powerlifting is not a legitimate sport anyway.
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Yes, but that's only because powerlifting is not a legitimate sport anyway.
In what form of definition is legitimate used?
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Chuck has an 835 deadlift, I'd say that is a bit more than "competitive."
I think Brent hit at 855 deadlift, and definitely has gone over 800lbs.
Bolton had a world record 1,213 squat and the highest 3 lift total in history. I don't think he can be considered a specialist in any manner.
i wasn't sure about chuck, you're right, but, as i said, bolton WAS at one point a pull specialist. he's got his squat up to be sure. brent's best according to his site is 810, and admittedly part of that issue is his missing finger.
There are just many, many more people that specialize in the bench for numerous reasons.
People that do full meets will want to say specialists aren't powerlifters.
People that specialize will want to say they are powerlifters.
And since the entire point of the internet is to argue against things, the debate will never end.
well that's because the bench is the only upper body-specific lift. generally if someone has an incredibly good squat they also have an incredibly good pull and vice-versa. you don't often find someone with a 900 pound squat that can barely pull six plates (unless it's an equipped squat and raw pull). they use many of the same muscles. if you've got a great posterior chain you'll have two great lifts. thus we get guys like bolton et al who have high squats and pulls, but low benches.
thus, pity the poor person who has weak legs but strong as shit shoulders. his bench is high but his other two lifts suck, so unlike folks in the above group he can't hit 2/3 of the meet and just accept a shitty third, he won't be competitive at all. so, bam, bench specialist.
not to mention, hey, let's be honest here, a lot of people simply want a huge bench over all else. it's an upper body lift, so if you're great at it you also look damn impressive.