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dorian is the clear winner...
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Dorian was the man. Lee Haney got out just in time.
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Dorian was the man. Lee Haney got out just in time.
indeed
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Haney actually lost the muscularity round to Yates in 91 (?) his last year competing.
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Haney actually lost the muscularity round to Yates in 91 (?) his last year competing.
Yeah it was 1991 Yates was 11 pounds lighter than Haney too
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Dorian Yates was not the best bodybuilder on that stage that night. Period.
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Haney actually lost the muscularity round to Yates in 91 (?) his last year competing.
yep ....... i forgot about that ....
i was trying to find the actual scorecard there......couldnt find it though. gaspari in 10th....foook!
1 Lee Haney
2 Dorian Yates
3 Vince Taylor
4 Lee Labrada
5 Shawn Ray
6 Sonny Schmidt
7 Francis Benfatto
8 Thierry Pastel
9 Achim Albrecht
10 Rich Gaspari
11 Ron Love
12 Bob Paris
13 Robby Robinson
14 Renel Janvier
15 Nimrod King
16 Samir Bannout
16 Albert Beckles
16 Geir Borgen Paulsen
16 Joseph Dawson
16 Frank Hillebrand
16 Pavel Jablonicki
16 J.J. Marsh
16 Mike Matarazzo
16 Andreas Munzer
16 Milos Sarcev
16 Tom Terwilliger
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Dorian Yates was not the best bodybuilder on that stage that night. Period.
Wow great explanation of your point backed up with facts and knowledge lol
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Yeah it was 1991 Yates was 11 pounds lighter than Haney too
dorian's back was like a fukn desert there......
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Dorian Yates was not the best bodybuilder on that stage that night. Period.
when u look at the top 6....and they are standing relaxed.....u can clearly see dorian is making everyone else look like lightweights.....
defo the thickest guy available.....and 2nd to none with conditioning
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when u look at the top 6....and they are standing relaxed.....u can clearly see dorian is making everyone else look like lightweights.....
defo the thickest guy available.....and 2nd to none with conditioning
Right he was just 242 pounds and without a doubt the best guy on stage by far
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Right he was just 242 pounds and without a doubt the best guy on stage by far
big louie is lookin pretty good standin next to dorian there....
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dorian looked a little better in 92 than in 93 IMO.
his midsection was much tighter and not as bloated- esp. when 'relaxed'
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Dorian won easily from 1992 to 1996.
1997 was a bit closer but he was still the best man on stage when you consider all the factors.
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Dorian won easily from 1992 to 1996.
1997 was a bit closer but he was still the best man on stage when you consider all the factors.
thats a good way to sum it up
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Right he was just 242 pounds and without a doubt the best guy on stage by far
No Dorian was not 242#, he was 232#.
Get the facts right!
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No Dorian was not 242#, he was 232#.
Get the facts right!
Sure he was ::) he was 239 in 1991 . 1992 he was 242 .
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on this day Mr. Levrone got screwed and bodybuilding as we once knew it died >:(
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Levrone should have won. Its no secret the ifbb likes to have long reigns for mr. olympias. Levrone could have won from 92-2002 easily, however they went with dorian. Unfortunately for them dorian went to shit very quickly and it wouldnt have been possible to keep awarding him first place looking like he did, so after 97 they ushered him out because he looked so bad they wouldnt give him the title another year.
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dorian is the clear winner...
LaBrada should have won.
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I was there and Shawn got screwed like always
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Levrone should have won. Its no secret the ifbb likes to have long reigns for mr. olympias. Levrone could have won from 92-2002 easily, however they went with dorian. Unfortunately for them dorian went to shit very quickly and it wouldnt have been possible to keep awarding him first place looking like he did, so after 97 they ushered him out because he looked so bad they wouldnt give him the title another year.
LaBrada should have won.
I was there and Shawn got screwed like always
yep ur all correct......levrone and labrada and ray beat dorian......dorian shoulda been 4th or even 5th.....even though he placed a close 2nd to haney and forced him to retire.....
dorian shoulda been 4th or 5th even though he outmuscled everyone....just look at him standing relaxed.....hes so full its unbelievable....he makes the other guys look like amateurs
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Dorian is such a clear winner you can only laugh at people who claim otherwise. most muscular guy and the best conditioned.
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Dorian is such a clear winner you can only laugh at people who claim otherwise. most muscular guy and the best conditioned.
exactly............every olympia he won .........he was always the best conditioned....and here in this vid he is clearly the fullest most muscular.........
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damn those obliques and shallow chest on yates are pathetic
what an ugly body
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haha what a mess that yates thing is
bloated belly
sickly deformed biceps
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haha what a mess that yates thing is
bloated belly
sickly deformed biceps
yes he killed bodybuilding
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haha what a mess that yates thing is
bloated belly
sickly deformed biceps
damn those obliques and shallow chest on yates are pathetic
what an ugly body
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a 190lb guy could have well better lines and fuller/rounder biceps......but its the overall package of desert dry conditioning with freakiest calves and back available...
heaviest guy onstage with best conditioning won the show that day..............
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a 190lb guy could have well better lines and fuller/rounder biceps......but its the overall package of desert dry conditioning with freakiest calves and back available...
heaviest guy onstage with best conditioning won the show that day..............
you are leaving out his bloated stomach. he looks 5-6 months due.
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a 190lb guy could have well better lines and fuller/rounder biceps......but its the overall package of desert dry conditioning with freakiest calves and back available...
heaviest guy onstage with best conditioning won the show that day..............
but he wasn't standing next to a 190 lb guy, he was standing next to a prime kevin levrone
why are "freaky calves" and back more important than a better chest, arms, shoulders, and quads?
and his conditioning doesn't make up for his poor shape in comparison to Mr. Levrone
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I was also there, in fact, those photos (www.dohertysgym.com) are mine. Let me tell you all, Dorian was the clear winner. Kevin looked good but seriously lacked calves and back thickness, which were Dorian's strengths. The only person to really take it to him that year was Labrada. He was completely detailed, esp from the back. Before the show, I thought he (Labrada) was small but he was actually as wide as anyone there. I agree that Dorian won from 2002-06 without question.
Dorian never looked as good in pictures as he did live. His conditioning was second to none and I guess you had to be there to appreciate how hard he was. He looked like he was carved out of granite.
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but he wasn't standing next to a 190 lb guy, he was standing next to a prime kevin levrone
why are "freaky calves" and back more important than a better chest, arms, shoulders, and quads?
and his conditioning doesn't make up for his poor shape in comparison to Mr. Levrone
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Earl, this was not prime Kevin, that came later. This was Kevin in his 1st Olympia and while he looked good, (shape and condition.) He was not in Dorian's league that year.
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Earl, this was not prime Kevin, that came later. This was Kevin in his 1st Olympia and while he looked good, (shape and condition.) He was not in Dorian's league that year.
Agreed.
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Labrada would have won if he was a foot taller
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Earl, this was not prime Kevin, that came later. This was Kevin in his 1st Olympia and while he looked good, (shape and condition.) He was not in Dorian's league that year.
correct....this was far from levrone's prime.....
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sean looked good for a lil bitch
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sean looked good for a lil bitch
shawn looked and still looks better than u ever will......ur a fukn child!
hahahahhaha
kids on the board never stop talkin shit about legends like shawn ray just because you know he reads this forum and might read what u said....
pathetic.....
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dorian is the clear winner...
Shit, Shawn Ray's abs look like they cut in. Can't believe Dorian lost to Mohammed at some point, I didn't know he was shorter than Shawn or Labrada...
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I was also there, in fact, those photos (www.dohertysgym.com) are mine. Let me tell you all, Dorian was the clear winner. Kevin looked good but seriously lacked calves and back thickness, which were Dorian's strengths. The only person to really take it to him that year was Labrada. He was completely detailed, esp from the back. Before the show, I thought he (Labrada) was small but he was actually as wide as anyone there. I agree that Dorian won from 2002-06 without question.
Dorian never looked as good in pictures as he did live. His conditioning was second to none and I guess you had to be there to appreciate how hard he was. He looked like he was carved out of granite.
what about dorian lacking a chest, quad separation, arms, and a decent looking midsection?
and yes i always here "dorian didn't look good in pics" ::) so somehow everybody else looks better in pics but worse in person ::)
and Mr. Levrone was at his best then, the body he displayed was much more marketable than his bigger and less defined body he had in the late 90's, the judges rewarding dorian's disgusting body caused even Mr. Levrone to expand his waistline and eventually kill bodybuilding as we knew it >:(
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what about dorian lacking a chest, quad separation, arms, and a decent looking midsection?
and yes i always here "dorian didn't look good in pics" ::) so somehow everybody else looks better in pics but worse in person ::)
and Mr. Levrone was at his best then, the body he displayed was much more marketable than his bigger and less defined body he had in the late 90's, the judges rewarding dorian's disgusting body caused even Mr. Levrone to expand his waistline and eventually kill bodybuilding as we knew it >:(
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dorian's forearms and triceps were massive and in proportion....he lacked biceps which are 2 fifths of the overall arm.....
dorians quad seperation was no where near the best onstage but dexter has 3 arnolds and has even worse seperation......ronnie has 8 sandows most of which were won with bad quad seperation....
as for the 1992 O being kevin levrone's prime....well thats just ur preference....that was nowhere near his best......
we're talking judging criteria here not ur preference...so dont say it like its true....when its just the look u prefered............
also dorian and ronnie combined plus cutler....thats 15 sandows won with bad midsections......
so its a minor thing in the overall judging criteria....provided they are crispy dry.
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Dorian never looked as good in pictures as he did live. His conditioning was second to none and I guess you had to be there to appreciate how hard he was. He looked like he was carved out of granite.
Funny how pictures are always unable to capture how hard and conditioned dorian was, yet they have no problem doing it for Dexter Jackson or Andreas Munzer.
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yates physique is really the most disgusting and foul in history. i would have him 4th. labrada should have taken this i think.
yates here proves that a big back and condition means your rest of body can be fucking revolting and hideous. i am amazed just how many olympias this convicted ciminal stole off more deserving athletes
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Funny how pictures are always unable to capture how hard and conditioned dorian was, yet they have no problem doing it for Dexter Jackson or Andreas Munzer.
good point ....i know what u mean.....
but both guys are very striated....munzer was and is the most striated human ever onstage.....
dorian on the other hand is just a fukn desert.....sheer dry and grainy slabs of meat under condom like skin
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dorian's forearms and triceps were massive and in proportion....he lacked biceps which are 2 fifths of the overall arm.....
dorians quad seperation was no where near the best onstage but dexter has 3 arnolds and has even worse seperation......ronnie has 8 sandows most of which were won with bad quad seperation....
as for the 1992 O being kevin levrone's prime....well thats just ur preference....that was nowhere near his best......
we're talking judging criteria here not ur preference...so dont say it like its true....when its just the look u prefered............
also dorian and ronnie combined plus cutler....thats 15 sandows won with bad midsections......
so its a minor thing in the overall judging criteria....provided they are crispy dry.
biceps are the first bodypart a weightlifter wants to develop, Mr. O should have large biceps
ronnie had much better quad separation than dorian, as did Mr. Levrone
it's my preference and it would be the general public's preference, his late 90's look was too big due to extreme drug use the judges wanted and lacked detail
yes the last 3 O winners had large midsections, the judges don't care and that is why bodybuilding has become a total joke
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as for the 1992 O being kevin levrone's prime....well thats just ur preference....that was nowhere near his best......
it was his best condition though
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I was also there, in fact, those photos (www.dohertysgym.com) are mine. Let me tell you all, Dorian was the clear winner. Kevin looked good but seriously lacked calves and back thickness, which were Dorian's strengths. The only person to really take it to him that year was Labrada. He was completely detailed, esp from the back. Before the show, I thought he (Labrada) was small but he was actually as wide as anyone there. I agree that Dorian won from 2002-06 without question.
Dorian never looked as good in pictures as he did live. His conditioning was second to none and I guess you had to be there to appreciate how hard he was. He looked like he was carved out of granite.
Great pics by the way ! and right on the money on your assessment . anymore pics?
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shawn looked and still looks better than u ever will......ur a fukn child!
hahahahhaha
kids on the board never stop talkin shit about legends like shawn ray just because you know he reads this forum and might read what u said....
pathetic.....
hi shawn
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hi shawn
hi jeffro
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good point ....i know what u mean.....
but both guys are very striated....munzer was and is the most striated human ever onstage.....
dorian on the other hand is just a fukn desert.....sheer dry and grainy slabs of meat under condom like skin
No, I give that too Hamdullah and then Munzer...
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what about dorian lacking a chest, quad separation, arms, and a decent looking midsection?
and yes i always here "dorian didn't look good in pics" ::) so somehow everybody else looks better in pics but worse in person ::)
and Mr. Levrone was at his best then, the body he displayed was much more marketable than his bigger and less defined body he had in the late 90's, the judges rewarding dorian's disgusting body caused even Mr. Levrone to expand his waistline and eventually kill bodybuilding as we knew it >:(
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Gut?
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Gut?
yes even Mr. Levrone developed a gut due to the stupid judges awarding ugly physiques like dorian's
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yes even Mr. Levrone developed a gut due to the stupid judges awarding ugly physiques like dorian's
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Excuses , excuses its all you have left , what was the excuse after Yates retired? he couldn't beat Coleman anymore so what excuse will you rely on ? the Hulkster one politics? lol
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Excuses , excuses its all you have left , what was the excuse after Yates retired? he couldn't beat Coleman anymore so what excuse will you rely on ? the Hulkster one politics? lol
his physique didn't get ugly enough, he developed a thicker waist but not as thick as dorian's :P
and i think coleman deserved his first two O's, he owns dorian too
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his physique didn't get ugly enough, he developed a thicker waist but not as thick as dorian's :P
and i think coleman deserved his first two O's, he owns dorian too
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yeah sure he did ::) you're like Hulkster , and Sharma , and pumpster you're all losers you hate Dorian because he crushed your heros ;) losers find comfort in each other
Levrone wasn't built right to beat Yates the was ONE and only one man with the tools & the talent to beat Yates and that was a spot-on Flex Wheeler and even then he'd have his hands full
Kevin couldn't pull it all together , you either got the 250 pound Kevin who was lacking in density & dryness or you got the 235 pounds Kevin hard & dry but not where near big enough to do damage to a Yates 30 pounds heavier with better conditioning , you're fucked either way.
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I'm curious to see if EARL vs ND can compare to a HULKSTER vs ND
hmmmmmmmmmmmm ;D
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Yates looks awesome there.. I don't think any pro bb'er had a better back. :o
Post-tear is a different story, but props and respect here because it's due!
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yeah sure he did ::) you're like Hulkster , and Sharma , and pumpster you're all losers you hate Dorian because he crushed your heros ;) losers find comfort in each other
Levrone wasn't built right to beat Yates the was ONE and only one man with the tools & the talent to beat Yates and that was a spot-on Flex Wheeler and even then he'd have his hands full
Kevin couldn't pull it all together , you either got the 250 pound Kevin who was lacking in density & dryness or you got the 235 pounds Kevin hard & dry but not where near big enough to do damage to a Yates 30 pounds heavier with better conditioning , you're fucked either way.
would you seriously rather look like dorian?
yates had bigger calves and back, that's it and you can state numbers if you want, just don't forget that a larger waistline makes the numbers go up ;)
who cares about conditioning when the shape of your muscles is crap?
his body ruined the sport and for that reason yes i do hate him
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yeah sure he did ::) you're like Hulkster , and Sharma , and pumpster you're all losers you hate Dorian because he crushed your heros ;) losers find comfort in each other
No, this is where you are wrong. if there is hate for Yates then it precisely because he DID NOT crush these people. He was given the worst gifts and most outrageous descisions in the histroy of the sport. He only won , fairly, maybe 2 crowns. In 97 Nasser killed him. he looked totally vile and repugnant with a pregnant gut, torn to shit disgusting arms, aids man quads. He stole that olympia and many others from more deserving athletes.
If Nasser had been a white American called Jack Johnson ansd the scorecards of the judges who had YATES AS LOW AS 4TH had been used, then Nasser would take his trophy home.
Yates is not hated becuased he crushed, no, he was crushed but still this former convict runs off with the prize. He is a scumbag.
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would you seriously rather look like dorian?
yates had bigger calves and back, that's it and you can state numbers if you want, just don't forget that a larger waistline makes the numbers go up ;)
who cares about conditioning when the shape of your muscles is crap?
his body ruined the sport and for that reason yes i do hate him
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I would rather look like Steve Reeves I would NEVER want to look like Yates that has absolutely nothing to do with it . Yates had more than just a bigger back and calves ! and Dorian never won because he was aesthetic either he won because he had the most amount of conditioned muscle with great balance & proportion .
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No, this is where you are wrong. if there is hate for Yates then it precisely because he DID NOT crush these people. He was given the worst gifts and most outrageous descisions in the histroy of the sport. He only won , fairly, maybe 2 crowns. In 97 Nasser killed him. he looked totally vile and repugnant with a pregnant gut, torn to shit disgusting arms, aids man quads. He stole that olympia and many others from more deserving athletes.
If Nasser had been a white American called Jack Johnson ansd the scorecards of the judges who had YATES AS LOW AS 4TH had been used, then Nasser would take his trophy home.
Yates is not hated becuased he crushed, no, he was crushed but still this former convict runs off with the prize. He is a scumbag.
Again your response aren't even worthy of a real response anyway , you keep saying this nonsense about the scorecards they throw out the highs & lows in EVERY contest thats not unique and he still won with straight firsts
I personally don't think Yates should have won in 1997 but Nasser was good but not that so overwhelmingly great to beat Yates outright that particular year and you post one pic of Yates from 97 and Nasser from 98 lol this proves what? nothing
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I would rather look like Steve Reeves I would NEVER want to look like Yates that has absolutely nothing to do with it . Yates had more than just a bigger back and calves ! and Dorian never won because he was aesthetic either he won because he had the most amount of conditioned muscle with great balance & proportion .
who would you rather look like between dorian and Mr. Levrone?
yeah i know he never won because of aesthetics, why should it be important for a body to actually look pleasing to the eye? ::)
i just watched the video again, dorian grabs Mr. Levrone's hand because he knows he is levrOWNED 8)
it's funny how he said that he hopes to do a lot for the sport, at the time i didn't think that meant killing the sport :'(
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I would NEVER want to look like Yates that has absolutely nothing to do with it .
so you admit that he looks like shit
enough of this "judging criteria" nonsense you always talk about
how do you defend a guy you would "NEVER" want to look like
gee i wonder why bodybuilding is losing and not gaining fans ::)
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who would you rather look like between dorian and Mr. Levrone?
yeah i know he never won because of aesthetics, why should it be important for a body to actually look pleasing to the eye? ::)
i just watched the video again, dorian grabs Mr. Levrone's hand because he knows he is levrOWNED 8)
it's funny how he said that he hopes to do a lot for the sport, at the time i didn't think that meant killing the sport :'(
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I would rather look like Levrone a lighter one at that but again it has nothing to do with my preferences it has to do with what the judges would pick and thats Yates and he had no gut in 92
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so you admit that he looks like shit
enough of this "judging criteria" nonsense you always talk about
how do you defend a guy you would "NEVER" want to look like
gee i wonder why bodybuilding is losing and not gaining fans ::)
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No he didn't look like ' shit ' I think at his best he looked amazing but not what I would want to look like .
and in 1993 I was rooting for Flex Wheeler I couldn't comprehend why and how Yates beat him I was dumbfounded until I learned how contests were actually judged , Dorian has the best balance & proportion , the best density & dryness and was also the biggest and he could effectively pose and thats exactly why he won
you're solely basing your opinion on personal preference and maketability which is ok I'm saying thats not what judges do they .
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if there is hate for Yates then it precisely because he DID NOT crush these people. He was given the worst gifts and most outrageous descisions in the histroy of the sport. He only won , fairly, maybe 2 crowns. In 97 Nasser killed him. he looked totally vile and repugnant with a pregnant gut, torn to shit disgusting arms, aids man quads. He stole that olympia and many others from more deserving athletes.
extreme wording aside, there is a lot of truth to this.
Yates gets a lot of bad press precisely because he did NOT crush the people that the judges claim he did for a lot of his wins, particularly post tear. everyone sees and agrees with this (except for ND and his two bitches of course).
the 'aids man' quads comment cracks me up though, because I'll be damned if it isn't true: 8)
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Post tear Yates didn't beat a lot of competition let alone "crush" them hahahaha
Did his reputation carry on from 1993 or what?
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Post tear Yates didn't beat a lot of competition let alone "crush" them hahahaha
Did his reputation carry on from 1993 or what?
yes. What Uncle Joe says, goes.
see Ms. olympia 1994 for an even more drastic example.
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extreme wording aside, there is a lot of truth to this.
Yates gets a lot of bad press precisely because he did NOT crush the people that the judges claim he did for a lot of his wins, particularly post tear. everyone sees and agrees with this (except for ND and his two bitches of course).
the 'aids man' quads comment cracks me up though, because I'll be damned if it isn't true: 8)
Same contest you think one pic makes a whole contest you're looking for some consolation after the ASS-POUNDING you took in the 99 Olympia thread by Kevin Horton ;) you still failed
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Post tear Yates didn't beat a lot of competition let alone "crush" them hahahaha
Did his reputation carry on from 1993 or what?
94 was no contest anyone who thinks otherwise his entitled to their opinion , 1995 was just manslaughter on par with 1993 if ANYONE claims otherwise they will be laughed at , 1996 no contest , 1997 he should have lost in my opinion or Nasser should have forced a close call but Yates beat him deal with it.
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Yates stood alone in 92 on
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Yates stood alone in 92 on
even back then you can see how Shawn would one day own dorian.
look at how well he compares in the back double bi. and side tri :o
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even back then you can see how Shawn would one day own dorian.
look at how well he compares in the back double bi. and side tri :o
Just like Flex won in 1993 huh? lol stick to letting us people in the know critique contests because you're fucking retarded ;)
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Same contest you think one pic makes a whole contest you're looking for some consolation after the ASS-POUNDING you took in the 99 Olympia thread by Kevin Horton ;) you still failed
Never saw that last picture.
Clearly shows to newbies why Dorian won even in his worst year, 1997.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=219385.0;attach=257306;image)
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Yates stood alone in 92 on
hmmm...
Those pics show one of Kevin Levrone's biggest shortcomings throughout his career.. No lowerback thickness.
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Never saw that last picture.
Clearly shows to newbies why Dorian won in his worst year, 1997.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=219385.0;attach=257306;image)
Right but these guys will continuously post a front double bicep pic , like I said again contests aren't judge by a single photo
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His left arm looks smaller than his right and his arms in general look too small compared to the rest of him
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Just like Flex won in 1993 huh? lol stick to letting us people in the know critique contests because you're fucking retarded ;)
LOL you are 'in the know"?
hahahahahahaha
maybe when delivering the goods at work: ND has a lot in common with dorian
lol
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No he didn't look like ' shit ' I think at his best he looked amazing but not what I would want to look like .
and in 1993 I was rooting for Flex Wheeler I couldn't comprehend why and how Yates beat him I was dumbfounded until I learned how contests were actually judged , Dorian has the best balance & proportion , the best density & dryness and was also the biggest and he could effectively pose and thats exactly why he won
you're solely basing your opinion on personal preference and maketability which is ok I'm saying thats not what judges do they .
that's why the sport is in the gutter, judges are choosing unappealing physiques
enough of this "judging criteria" judges should choose physiques that people actually like and wouldn't mind looking the same, that is if they want the sport to generate money ;)
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that's why the sport is in the gutter, judges are choosing unappealing physiques
enough of this "judging criteria" judges should choose physiques that people actually like and wouldn't mind looking the same, that is if they want the sport to generate money ;)
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"It's bodybuilding so you have to have alot of muscle. It's not fitness, it's not ballet dancing. If you have the symmetry, the definition, the bigger guy is gonna win, it's very simple."
From the man himself.
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"It's bodybuilding so you have to have alot of muscle. It's not fitness, it's not ballet dancing. If you have the symmetry, the definition, the bigger guy is gonna win, it's very simple."
From the man himself.
why wont dorian say that he knows why he won, big, dense muscle and insane conditioning
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LOL you are 'in the know"?
hahahahahahaha
maybe when delivering the goods at work: ND has a lot in common with dorian
lol
Again what do you know? you can't respond to the question all you can do try personal attacks ;)
Answer the question what do you know about competitive bodybuilding ? especially when after viewing the ' visual evidence ' you came to the conclusion Dorian lost in 93/95 and Ronnie ' dominated ' in 2001 , we're all waiting Hulkster ;)
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"It's bodybuilding so you have to have alot of muscle. It's not fitness, it's not ballet dancing. If you have the symmetry, the definition, the bigger guy is gonna win, it's very simple."
From the man himself.
you say that like Mr. Levrone was a small man ::)
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Dorian Yates was not the best bodybuilder on that stage that night. Period.
So who was then, according to YOU? ::)
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No Dorian was not 242#, he was 232#.
Get the facts right!
It's SHAWN RAY, NOT SEAN REY!
Get the facts right!
BTW, ND is right. Dorian was 227 (or 229) in 1990 (lost to MOMO Benaziza), 239 in 1991, 242 in 1992. 256-257 in 1993 and 260 in 1994. Think about the same in 1995. Back down to 256-257 in 1996 and his all-time high in 1997 (268-269).
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a 190lb guy could have well better lines and fuller/rounder biceps......but its the overall package of desert dry conditioning with freakiest calves and back available...
heaviest guy onstage with best conditioning won the show that day..............
Uhhhhh, he definitely was NOT the heaviest guy on stage that night. there were several other bodybuilders HEAVIER than Dorian. Big Lou Ferrigno comes to mind.
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Shit, Shawn Ray's abs look like they cut in. Can't believe Dorian lost to Mohammed at some point, I didn't know he was shorter than Shawn or Labrada...
MOMO was 5'2". Labrada claimed to be 5'6". He was 5'5" on a good day. Shawn Claimed 5'7". I say no taller than 5'6".
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so now nastysissy diety admits that he finds Yate's physique to be disgusting and repulsive and that Dorian Yates did not deserve multiple olympia's. HAHA
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so now nastysissy diety admits that he finds Yate's physique to be disgusting and repulsive and that Dorian Yates did not deserve multiple olympia's. HAHA
lol McD has no rhyme or reason to what he posts..
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exactly how does he defend a guy when he said "I would NEVER want to look like him"
that is why bodybuilding has very little fans, how can you be a fan when you would never want to look like the guys on stage?
the judging criteria should be "who do you want to look like the most", nobody in their right mind would want a huge grotesque waistline and a missing arm ::)
the current judging criteria has ruined bodybuilding and it all began with dorian
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so now nastysissy diety admits that he finds Yate's physique to be disgusting and repulsive and that Dorian Yates did not deserve multiple olympia's. HAHA
hahahha no hes saying he DID deserve them because nobody could outscore dorian as far as bodybuilding judging criteria is concerned...........
he also said he wouldnt want to look like dorian.....
preference is not what wins bodybuilding shows
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preference is not what wins bodybuilding shows
gee i wonder why the fanbase is so small ::)
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gee i wonder why the fanbase is so small ::)
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thats a different argument ......and i agree with u more than u think.... ;)
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yep ....... i forgot about that ....
i was trying to find the actual scorecard there......couldnt find it though. gaspari in 10th....foook!
1 Lee Haney
2 Dorian Yates
3 Vince Taylor
4 Lee Labrada
5 Shawn Ray
6 Sonny Schmidt
7 Francis Benfatto
8 Thierry Pastel
9 Achim Albrecht
10 Rich Gaspari
11 Ron Love
12 Bob Paris
13 Robby Robinson
14 Renel Janvier
15 Nimrod King
16 Samir Bannout
16 Albert Beckles
16 Geir Borgen Paulsen
16 Joseph Dawson
16 Frank Hillebrand
16 Pavel Jablonicki
16 J.J. Marsh
16 Mike Matarazzo
16 Andreas Munzer
16 Milos Sarcev
16 Tom Terwilliger
That was a gift!! Ron Love was in the shape of his life at that show!!
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so now nastysissy diety admits that he finds Yate's physique to be disgusting and repulsive and that Dorian Yates did not deserve multiple olympia's. HAHA
Where did I say that? I said from a personal prospective I don't think he should have won in 1997 but every other contest he was the clear winner
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the judging criteria should be "who do you want to look like the most."
Going by your retarded logic, then Brad Pitt as he appeared in the film "Troy" should be Mr.Olympia, because that's the physique most guys would like to have. I'm sorry, but even Shawn Ray weighting 205 lbs ripped at a height of 5'7 is too big for most people, and so is Levrone at a height of 5'10 and 240 lbs. You are a moron. ;)
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Going by your retarded logic, then Brad Pitt as he appeared in the film "Troy" should be Mr.Olympia, because that's the physique most guys would like to have. I'm sorry, but even Shawn Ray weighting 205 lbs ripped at a height of 5'7 is too big for most people, and so is Levrone at a height of 5'10 and 240 lbs. You are a moron. ;)
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funny how when "cigaretteman" disappears the fat, miserable drunk that "wants to beat me up" shows up ::)
still want to fight me, fat fuck? :D
Mr. Olympia still has to display a large, complete, and fully developed physique with less than 5% bodyfat, something brad pitt or any celebrity you can think of to help your stupid argument lacks
nice try fatty and oh yeah DO YOU STILL DREAM OF BEATING ME UP? :P
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funny how when "cigaretteman" disappears the fat, miserable drunk that "wants to beat me up" shows up ::)
still want to fight me, fat fuck? :D
Mr. Olympia still has to display a large, complete, and fully developed physique with less than 5% bodyfat, something brad pitt or any celebrity you can think of to help your stupid argument lacks
nice try fatty and oh yeah DO YOU STILL DREAM OF BEATING ME UP? :P
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would u actually fight this character?
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would u actually fight this character?
only in self defense, he's just another internet tough guy that hates the world and himself in my eyes
he hates me so much over my internet comments, he actually said he would be me up if he saw me in person ;D
that's how much of a loser he is, nothing funnier than an angry drunk :D
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funny how when "cigaretteman" disappears the fat, miserable drunk that "wants to beat me up" shows up ::)
still want to fight me, fat fuck? :D
Mr. Olympia still has to display a large, complete, and fully developed physique with less than 5% bodyfat, something brad pitt or any celebrity you can think of to help your stupid argument lacks
nice try fatty and oh yeah DO YOU STILL DREAM OF BEATING ME UP? :P
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Ha ha ha...nice to get such an emotional response from Getbig's most closeted homosexual. ;D Hey, retard, you said and I quote:
"The criteria to decide the winner should be who's physique people want to have the most."
Guess what, moron? Most people don't want to look like Kevin and Shawn, because they are too big for the general public's standard. So, once again, you are wrong - as usual. ;)
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only in self defense, he's just another internet tough guy that hates the world and himself in my eyes
he hates me so much over my internet comments, he actually said he would be me up if he saw me in person ;D
that's how much of a loser he is, nothing funnier than an angry drunk :D
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Ha ha ha...nice to get such an emotional response from Getbig's most closeted homosexual. ;D Hey, retard, you said and I quote:
"The criteria to decide the winner should be who's physique people want to have the most."
Guess what, moron? Most people don't want to look like Kevin and Shawn, because they are too big for the general public's stadard. So, once again, you are wrong - as usual. ;)
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not quite as "emotional" as threatening to beat up somebody over little internet words ;)
you still haven't answered the question whcih makes me feel you are embarrassed about saying it, DO YOU STILL WANT TO BEAT ME UP?
it's not quite as embarrassing as being a drunk so just answer the question :)
has brad pitt and his incomplete physique stepped on a bodybuilding stage? no
would more people including ND rather look like Mr. Levrone? yes
stick to your "judging criteria" fatty, it has really helped bodybuilding progress in the public eye since lee haney's days ::)
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not quite as "emotional" as threatening to beat up somebody over little internet words ;)
you still haven't answered the question whcih makes me feel you are embarrassed about saying it, DO YOU STILL WANT TO BEAT ME UP?
it's not quite as embarrassing as being a drunk so just answer the question :)
has brad pitt and his incomplete physique stepped on a bodybuilding stage? no
would more people including ND rather look like Mr. Levrone? yes
stick to your "judging criteria" fatty, it has really helped bodybuilding progress in the public eye since lee haney's days ::)
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I would rather look like Kevin compared to Yates yes , do I think Kevin could , would or should have ever beat Dorian NO its that simple.
and I'd rather look like this than Levorne
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has brad pitt and his incomplete physique stepped on a bodybuilding stage? no
Irrelevant, since you claimed that bodybuilding contests should be decided by what physique the majority of people would like the have. The majority of people would like to have a physique like Pitt's in "Troy" or like Leo DiCaprio's, and not like Levrone's. for most people, Levrone is way, way too big.
would more people including ND rather look like Mr. Levrone? yes
Ugh...he said Steve Reeves, and he barely looks like a bodybuilder by today's standards. Most people would rather look like Steve Reeves, yes, who had a physique far closer to Brad Pitt's in "Troy" rather than that of Levrone. ;)
stick to your "judging criteria" fatty, it has really helped bodybuilding progress in the public eye since lee haney's days ::)
You amuse me, imbecile. "My" judging criteria?! Ha ha...have you just arrived from Planet Crack? It is the I.F.B.B's criteria, you know, the organization that sanctions the Mr.Olympia contest and thus decides who walsk away with the title.
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Irrelevant, since you claimed that bodybuilding contests should be decided by what physique the majority of people would like the have. The majority of people would like to have a physique like Pitt's in "Troy" or like Leo DiCaprio's, and not like Levrone's. for most people, Levrone is way, way too big.
Ugh...he said Steve Reeves, and he barely looks like a bodybuilder by today's standards. Most people would rather look like Steve Reeves, yes, who had a physique far closer to Brad Pitt's in "Troy" rather than that of Levrone. ;)
You amuse me, imbecile. "My" judging criteria?! Ha ha...have you just arrived from Planet Crack? It is the I.F.B.B's criteria, you know, the organization that sanctions the Mr.Olympia contest and thus decides who walsk away with the title.
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brad pitt not being a bodybuilder makes your response irrelevant, and i do agree with the part of the judging criteria where it says all bodyparts must be fully developed and in proportion, this is where your stupid brad pitt argument fails fat boy ;)
bodybuilding has changed since the steve reeves days, all i'm saying is guys with bloated waistlines shouldn't be Mr. O
yes i know it's the ifbb's judging criteria, talk about fishing for ways to call me "stupid" eh you stinky drunk ;)
the judging criteria allowed bodybuilding to become a joke even to the people that once supported the sport
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brad pitt not being a bodybuilder makes your response irrelevant, and i do agree with the part of the judging criteria where it says all bodyparts must be fully developed and in proportion, this is where your stupid brad pitt argument fails fat boy ;)
bodybuilding has changed since the steve reeves days, all i'm saying is guys with bloated waistlines shouldn't be Mr. O
yes i know it's the ifbb's judging criteria, talk about fishing for ways to call me "stupid" eh you stinky drunk ;)
the judging criteria allowed bodybuilding to become a joke even to the people that once supported the sport
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Dorian didn't have a gut when he first won in 1992 and Kev didn't have won either but he got one though I suppose Yates is to blame for that as well? lol
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Dorian didn't have a gut when he first won in 1992 and Kev didn't have won either but he got one though I suppose Yates is to blame for that as well? lol
large disgusting obliques in 92
no kid looks at those pics and says "i want to look like that some day" ;)
yes Mr. Levrone developed a gut, thanks to the judging criteria that chose yates and ruined bodybuilding
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large disgusting obliques in 92
no kid looks at those pics and says "i want to look like that some day" ;)
yes Mr. Levrone developed a gut, thanks to the judging criteria that chose yates and ruined bodybuilding
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Thick obliques and a gut are two different things ;)
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Thick obliques and a gut are two different things ;)
yeah i know, he had the gut after 92 but the obliques were always large and shitty
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yeah i know, he had the gut after 92 but the obliques were always large and shitty
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His obliques were fine in 92 and fine after that when tensed
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seems to me that ND is the only one being impartial whilst all the fanboys are being bitchy about Doz because he beat their masturbation material.
Under IFBB juddging criteria, which is long winded, complicated and boring, Yates is the clear winner. He has the most muscle and the best condition. the shape is also nowhere near as bad as the fanboys claim. it seems to me that you're confusing which bodybuilding you'd want to fill you with a gutful of cum, and who actually wins bodybuilding contests.
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brad pitt not being a bodybuilder makes your response irrelevant, and i do agree with the part of the judging criteria where it says all bodyparts must be fully developed and in proportion, this is where your stupid brad pitt argument fails fat boy ;)
bodybuilding has changed since the steve reeves days, all i'm saying is guys with bloated waistlines shouldn't be Mr. O
yes i know it's the ifbb's judging criteria, talk about fishing for ways to call me "stupid" eh you stinky drunk ;)
the judging criteria allowed bodybuilding to become a joke even to the people that once supported the sport
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Ha ha ha ha...you are as dumb as you are gay. Wow. What has the fact that Brad Pitt is not a bodybuilder has to do with anything? You did state that bodybuilding contests should be judged by how people would like to look, and the bottom line is that most people would like to look like Brad Pitt and not like Levrone, who is way too big by the general public's standard. You are a seriously deluded moron if you think that having given the Sandow to Ke4vin would have made bodybuilding more popular with the mainstream. Guess what, Liberace? No, it wouldn't. so once again you are a moron and you can thank me latter for having corrected you. ;)
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seems to me that ND is the only one being impartial whilst all the fanboys are being bitchy about Doz because he beat their masturbation material.
Under IFBB juddging criteria, which is long winded, complicated and boring, Yates is the clear winner. He has the most muscle and the best condition. the shape is also nowhere near as bad as the fanboys claim. it seems to me that you're confusing which bodybuilding you'd want to fill you with a gutful of cum, and who actually wins bodybuilding contests.
Exactly , someone who gets it ! I used to base all my opinions on what I preferred and what I thought should/could/would win contests until I learned what did win contests
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His obliques were fine in 92 and fine after that when tensed
haha a Mr. Olympia shouldn't have to tense his obliques to look "fine"
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seems to me that ND is the only one being impartial whilst all the fanboys are being bitchy about Doz because he beat their masturbation material.
funny how nd is not considered a fanboy of dorian when most of his enormous post count defends dorian ::)
could it be because you are a "fanboy" of dorian
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Ha ha ha ha...you are as dumb as you are gay. Wow. What has the fact that Brad Pitt is not a bodybuilder has to do with anything? You did state that bodybuilding contests should be judged by how people would like to look, and the bottom line is that most people would like to look like Brad Pitt and not like Levrone, who is way too big by the general public's standard. You are a seriously deluded moron if you think that having given the Sandow to Ke4vin would have made bodybuilding more popular with the mainstream. Guess what, Liberace? No, it wouldn't. so once again you are a moron and you can thank me latter for having corrected you. ;)
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gee i don't know you can't win Mr. O when you don't even step on stage ::)
again you show your poor reading comprehension skills, are you drinking again? the judging criteria actually makes sense when it says a bodybuilders physique should show total development of all parts (NOT THE WAISTLINE ;)), pitt lacks everything and the fact that you keep up this stupid argument has me literally laughing out loud ;D ;D
i missed you ( not in the way you missed Mr. Levrone ;)), your posts are so entertaining, don't log in as "cigarretteman" ever again
bodybuilding had more fans before they started awarding bellybuilders like yates, why is that so hard for you to comprehend? put down the bottle already ;)
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haha a Mr. Olympia shouldn't have to tense his obliques to look "fine"
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yeah why tense your muscles at all lol why flex? that would be redundant in a bodybuilding contest lol
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yeah why tense your muscles at all lol why flex? that would be redundant in a bodybuilding contest lol
a Mr. Olympia should have tight looking obliques at all times
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a Mr. Olympia should have tight looking obliques at all times
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Well looks like Kevin could never be Mr Olympia by your definition ;)
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Well looks like Kevin could never be Mr Olympia by your definition ;)
I've said numerous times that his 92 physique was his best and most marketable,
as for his later years, 99 was arguably his worst besides at that point they all had a gut like that, except for shawn
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I've said numerous times that his 92 physique was his best and most marketable,
as for his later years, 99 was arguably his worst besides at that point they all had a gut like that, except for shawn
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1992 was most certainly not his best physique he was to depleted , his back pecs and legs were all down in size not his best combo at all .
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1992 was most certainly not his best physique he was to depleted , his back pecs and legs were all down in size not his best combo at all .
yeah i know you like them big and bloated ;)
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yeah i know you like them big and bloated ;)
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No but 92 wasn't the best of Levrone and blame Momo for starting the bloated thread in bodybuilding and stop blaming Yates
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I always thought that this shot from 92 was particularly funny because the winner is being owned by every single person onstage! LOL
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gee i don't know you can't win Mr. O when you don't even step on stage ::)
again you show your poor reading comprehension skills, are you drinking again? the judging criteria actually makes sense when it says a bodybuilders physique should show total development of all parts (NOT THE WAISTLINE ;)), pitt lacks everything and the fact that you keep up this stupid argument has me literally laughing out loud ;D ;D
i missed you ( not in the way you missed Mr. Levrone ;)), your posts are so entertaining, don't log in as "cigarretteman" ever again
bodybuilding had more fans before they started awarding bellybuilders like yates, why is that so hard for you to comprehend? put down the bottle already ;)
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Wow...you are really dumb. :-X First you claim that Levrone should be Mr.Olympia because that's what the public wants to see. So when I reply to you that the general public regards both Dorian and Kevin equally grotesque and would much rather have the physique of Brad Pitt, you reply by saying that Brad Pitt is not a bodybuilder. No shit, dumbass, but what has this got to do with anything? It's still the physique people want to have, which makes your point about making Levrone Mr.Olympia to increase bodybuilding's popularity retarded. ;) And I don't log here with any other acccount, moron. This is my one and only account here. Unlike you, who changed your username like a bitch a dozen times. ;)
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I always thought that this shot from 92 was particularly funny because the winner is being owned by every single person onstage! LOL
Dorian owned my ass ::)
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Wow...you are really dumb. :-X First you claim that Levrone should be Mr.Olympia because that's what the public wants to see. So when I reply to you that the general public regards both Dorian and Kevin equally grotesque and would much rather have the physique of Brad Pitt, you reply by saying that Brad Pitt is not a bodybuilder. No shit, dumbass, but what has this got to do with anything? It's still the physique people want to have, which makes your point about making Levrone Mr.Olympia to increase bodybuilding's popularity retarded. ;) And I don't log here with any other acccount, moron. This is my one and only account here. Unlike you, who changed your username like a bitch a dozen times. ;)
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the bodybuilding fans prefer a physique like Mr. Levrone displayed in 92 and i'm sure the general public would too, why do you fail to notice that the fanbase got smaller and smaller as the waistlines increased, is it the alcohol or just pure stupidity? ???
and nobody would want or even notice brad pitt's INCOMPLETE physique if you put dorian's ugly head on his body but please keep up with this "brad pitt could be mr. o" argument, it is amusing to me ;)
i never changed my username once, why do you think i did and oh yeah DO YOU STILL WANT TO FIGHT ME?
you are already known as a lying, miserable, insecure, hateful, gay alcoholic
if you continue to dodge that question you will be known as a pussy too ;)
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the bodybuilding fans prefer a physique like Mr. Levrone displayed in 92 and i'm sure the general public would too, why do you fail to notice that the fanbase got smaller and smaller as the waistlines increased, is it the alcohol or just pure stupidity? ???
The only stupidity is you believing that just because you wish Levrone would fill your gaping anus with his jizz that makes him the better bodybuilder. There is a criteria, oh gay stupid one, and Dorian is the winner by that criteria. And why do you keep bringing up alcohol, you pathetic fuck? Oh, that's right, because a long time ago I started a thread entitled "I Am An Alcoholic" as a joke, and you are so fucking dumb you couldn't realize that it was a joke. ;) For your information, retard, I don't drink and never had. The most I have is an occasional glass of wine when I dine out, and I haven't had one in years.
and nobody would want or even notice brad pitt's INCOMPLETE physique if you put dorian's ugly head on his body but please keep up with this "brad pitt could be mr. o" argument, it is amusing to me
You are such a moron. You don't even get the point of my argument. The general public doesen't want a physique like Levrone's, no matter how "complete"(debatable) it is. To the general public, his physique is way too big. So your proposition that making Levrone Mr.Olympia would make bodybuilding more popular with the general public is retarded.
i never changed my username once, why do you think i did and oh yeah DO YOU STILL WANT TO FIGHT ME?
I don't know why you keep bringing this up, since you should be ashamed of the fact that I did challenge you to fight me once, and you declined like the little she-bitch that you undoubtedly are. You know what that makes you? A coward. ;)
you are already known as a lying, miserable, insecure, hateful, gay alcoholic
I am not known for any of those things, and even if I were, I wouldn't give a damn. You, however, are constatnly pointed out by several board members as a latent homosexual. the former sentence beneath your avatar of Levrone, "half Italian, half amazing" was the gayest shit I've ever read on any internet message board. It is the kind of thing that teenage girls would say about male stars. I mean, what kind of heterosexual man calls anothe man "amazing"? Oh, that's right, not a heterosexual man. ;)
if you continue to dodge that question you will be known as a pussy too
This coming from the fag who refuses to come out of the closet and is made fun of by the entire board.
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No but 92 wasn't the best of Levrone and blame Momo for starting the bloated thread in bodybuilding and stop blaming Yates
Haahah, they all look like little boys next to YATES.
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The only stupidity is you believing that just because you wish Levrone would fill your gaping anus with his jizz that makes him the better bodybuilder. There is a criteria, oh gay stupid one, and Dorian is the winner by that criteria. And why do you keep bringing up alcohol, you pathetic fuck? Oh, that's right, because a long time ago I started a thread entitled "I Am An Alcoholic" as a joke, and you are so fucking dumb you couldn't realize that it was a joke. ;) For your information, retard, I don't drink and never had. The most I have is an occasional glass of wine when I dine out, and I haven't had one in years.
actually it is you that likes Mr. Levrone in a sexual way Mr. "I miss you Kevin" hahaha and you admitted here last week that you drink vodka, clearly you can't keep up with your lies, typical stupid drunk haha ;D
You are such a moron. You don't even get the point of my argument. The general public doesen't want a physique like Levrone's, no matter how "complete"(debatable) it is. To the general public, his physique is way too big. So your proposition that making Levrone Mr.Olympia would make bodybuilding more popular with the general public is retarded.
no you are the moron, stinky
bodybuilding was far more popular before bellybuilders like yates came along, Mr. Levrone's physiques at least would've kept the fans bodybuilding had in the 80's
I don't know why you keep bringing this up, since you should be ashamed of the fact that I did challenge you to fight me once, and you declined like the little she-bitch that you undoubtedly are. You know what that makes you? A coward. ;)
uh know you did not actually challenge me to a fight, god are you stupid you can't remember what you said or were you that drunk? ::)
you said that if you saw me in person you would beat me up, first of all you will never see me in person because you are eurotrash and i'm american, second of all I wouldn't fight you unless you actually attacked me, your internet words don't make me cry the way mine make you shed tears 8)
and if you did attack me i would own you like I do here, a fat drunk will gas in 10 seconds making it easy for a guy like myself in tip top shape to crush you :-*
I am not known for any of those things, and even if I were, I wouldn't give a damn. You, however, are constatnly pointed out by several board members as a latent homosexual. the former sentence beneath your avatar of Levrone, "half Italian, half amazing" was the gayest shit I've ever read on any internet message board. It is the kind of thing that teenage girls would say about male stars. I mean, what kind of heterosexual man calls anothe man "amazing"? Oh, that's right, not a heterosexual man. ;)
yes you are known for all of those things and you do care hence the meltdowns and saying you will beat me up :-* :-*
i clearly don't care about the "latent homosexual" reputation on a forum, if I did wouldn't you think i'd tone down the whole Levroneite thing? the "half italian half amazing" quote was a joke that only you didn't understand, your stupidity makes you one of me favorite getbiggers haha wow you are stupid
This coming from the fag who refuses to come out of the closet and is made fun of by the entire board.
your simple mind can't grasp the fact that not everybody is hurt by internet words the way you are hahaha
when are you coming to beat me up? after this post you have to be fuming you fat, drunk, gay loser hahahahahhahahaha ;D ;D ;D
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Well looks like Kevin could never be Mr Olympia by your definition ;)
Kevin is displaying a little Dorianism there but not as bad as the man himself.
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Yates said this was his weight on the day of the Olympias:
1991-240lbs
1992-242lbs
1993-257lbs