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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: WillGrant on June 15, 2008, 09:17:54 PM
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Hey Bob.
If bigger stronger faster goes to disc will BB.COM be selling it?
http://www.biggerstrongerfastermovie.com/ (http://www.biggerstrongerfastermovie.com/)
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This is a great question! I wonder if they will sell it on the site store?
In my opinion , pro bodybuilding shoud avoid any serious look into the steroid issue, seriously :-X
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Hey Bob.
If bigger stronger faster goes to disc will BB.COM be selling it?
http://www.biggerstrongerfastermovie.com/ (http://www.biggerstrongerfastermovie.com/)
Doubt it...why would we?
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Doubt it...why would we?
why would they sell somethign tht actually has the word STEOROID somewhere in it... :o
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Doubt it...why would we?
This distancing from the film and the no drug gossip by FLEX is the only practical way to go.
The current political climate is more witch hunt than trying to make sensible solutions.
It might suprise some here to see me saying this, but I love bodybuilding and want the best for it and the pros I admire.
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Doubt it...why would we?
Bob did they try to talk to you about being in the movie?
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This distancing from the film and the no drug gossip by FLEX is the only practical way to go.
The current political climate is more witch hunt than trying to make sensible solutions.
It might suprise some here to see me saying this, but I love bodybuilding and want the best for it and the pros I admire.
i love when they write an article about jay, they only say, jay cutler bla bla bla with his cartoonish jaw! i would love to see someone actually printing an article saying FUCKING HUGE GH JAW :P
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Doubt it...why would we?
Well its a "bodybuilding" based film , you sell these do you not? or would the fact that the honesty of those in the film damage the supplements sales that BB.COM base there livlyhood on?
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why would they sell somethign tht actually has the word STEOROID somewhere in it... :o
;D ;D
Considering alot of the supps sold on the site promise steroid like gains and the guys who promote these supps are basicly comming clean saying that supps are rubbish and steroids build there bodies along with diet training etc
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Well its a "bodybuilding" based film , you sell these do you not? or would the fact that the honesty of those in the film damage the supplements sales that BB.COM base there livlyhood on?
Actually...it's not really a "bodybuilding" based film...it's a steroid/ anti supplement based film. Were in the business to sell supplements.
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Were in the business to sell supplements.
Speaking of,just bought a bunch.thanks for the free shirt. :)
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Translation: we are making a fucking fortune using steroid/HGH/insulin monsters to sell expensive fart powders to gullible skinny-fats. This pesky film is exposing that. No way will we sell a film that highlights our multi-million dollar fraud.
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Translation: we are making a fucking fortune using steroid/HGH/insulin monsters to sell expensive fart powders to gullible skinny-fats. This pesky film is exposing that. No way will we sell a film that highlights our multi-million dollar fraud.
It's called advertising....no different than believing georgous women will start ripping your clothes off from using Axe deoderant spray...or weight loss pills that make you 50 lbs lighter without dieting...or any celebrity endorsing anything.
Welcome to the world....
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It's called advertising....no different than believing georgous women will start ripping your clothes off from using Axe deoderant spray...or weight loss pills that make you 50 lbs lighter without dieting...or any celebrity endorsing anything.
Welcome to the world....
GOOD POST CHIC...it's what u do with that spray,pill,or protein supp,stay's in the cabinent waste of money ,used and brings results whether hot chick,a little more definiton or some muscle all is good.nobody said using these things are gonna change the world dramatically.
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It's called advertising....no different than believing georgous women will start ripping your clothes off from using Axe deoderant spray...or weight loss pills that make you 50 lbs lighter without dieting...or any celebrity endorsing anything.
Welcome to the world....
Translation: we are making a fucking fortune using steroid/HGH/insulin monsters to sell expensive fart powders to gullible skinny-fats. This pesky film is exposing that. No way will we sell a film that highlights our multi-million dollar fraud.
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It's called advertising....no different than believing georgous women will start ripping your clothes off from using Axe deoderant spray...or weight loss pills that make you 50 lbs lighter without dieting...or any celebrity endorsing anything.
Welcome to the world....
its called semi legalized scamming.
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To be fair Bob does acknowledge that the supplement industry is a scam using major league drug addicts to sell worthless powders. Bob has no problem with this because other industries do similar things.
He does admit though that it is a con.
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It's called advertising....no different than believing georgous women will start ripping your clothes off from using Axe deoderant spray...or weight loss pills that make you 50 lbs lighter without dieting...or any celebrity endorsing anything.
Welcome to the world....
;)
checkmate!
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why would they sell somethign tht actually has the word STEOROID somewhere in it... :o
Well they already sell actual anabolic steroids on the site so why not?
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To be fair Bob does acknowledge that the supplement industry is a scam using major league drug addicts to sell worthless powders. Bob has no problem with this because other industries do similar things.
He does admit though that it is a con.
Props to him for that. I remember those moments of candid honesty. It was refreshing.
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;)
checkmate!
No, not at all, because I wouldn't dispute that advertising constantly flirts with being false advertising. I don't doubt that they use supermodels and women with multiple facelifts to push expensive creams. I don't doubt that people who've had lipo and gastric bands try to market their fatloss as being the result of a certain 'system' or useless machine.
No, my point was simply that bbing.com would not want to promote a film that demonstrates that the supplement industry is a scam that uses heavy drug users to promote essentially worthless potions and snake oils.
Bob did not disagree. In fact, he readily agreed and indeed stated that this is exactly why his employers would not want to sell the film. Bob's answer is that advertising is a shitty business , he agrees that full on drug users are used to exploit the naivety of skinny-fats.
We actually both agree with each other ;)
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No, my point was simply that bbing.com would not want to promote a film that demonstrates that the supplement industry is a scam that uses heavy drug users to promote essentially worthless potions and snake oils.
bb.com is a gateway to "real" steroids. It does a lot to promote them IMO. Go look at the supp forum. Every other post is about stacks and hormones and "PCTs" with drug guru Patrick Arnold advising them. It's not a big step to go for the real juice.
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bb.com is a gateway to "real" steroids. It does a lot to promote them IMO. Go look at the supp forum. Every other post is about stacks and hormones and "PCTs" with drug guru Patrick Arnold advising them. It's not a big step to go for the real juice.
Maybe on the forums but the supersite itself is full of the usual myriad products that do all sorts of crazy science stuff to your body to give you 'steroid like gains'..only to be discontinued after a few months.
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Actually...it's not really a "bodybuilding" based film...it's a steroid/ anti supplement based film. Were in the business to sell supplements.
So are you saying steroids have nothing to do with BB? ???
The anti supp part I think is needed , its time to clean house and stop the bullshit.
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So are you saying steroids have nothing to do with BB? ???
The anti supp part I think is needed , its time to clean house and stop the bullshit.
Is that what you got out of my post?
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show some friggin respect for bob chick--hes an ifbb pro
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I seriously don't get you guys. You should believe and listen to Bob. He's spent his whole life in this industry. This is his job.
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No, not all, because I wouldn't dispute that advertising constantly flirts with being false advertising. I don't doubt that they use supermodels and women with multiple facelifts to push expensive creams. I don't doubt that people who've had lipo and gastric bands try to market their fatloss as being the result of a certain 'system' or useless machine.
No, my point was simply that bbing.com would not want to promote a film that demonstrates that the supplement industry is a scam that uses heavy drug users to promote essentially worthless potions and snake oils.
Bob did not disagree. In fact, he readily agreed and indeed stated that this is exactly why his employers would not want to sell the film. Bob's answer is that advertising is a shitty business , he agrees that full on drug users are used to exploit the naivety of skinny-fats.
We actually both agree with each other ;)
Actually...we don't.
Just because someone puts together a documentry, doesn't make what they put out there true. There are different sides to every story, and different views.
And I said nothing of what you wrote....don't quote me unless you get the facts of what I said.
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Nobody could quote you English Please.
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Dear Bob,
At no point did you question the veracity of what I typed - that has only come in retrospect once you realised that ,like Beoving, you'd managed to undermine the efficacy of the very supplements you plug.
Rather, you did agree by your response that this is how advertising works and the way of the world (and I agreed). If you had said 'no, the supplement industry does not use major league drug addicts with more holes in them than grandma's pin cushion to sell worthless fart powders' ..then that would be disagreeing. You didn't, in fact you pointed to other industries using similar deceptions to sell their products as a justification for your own role in the supplement scam.
The issue isn't really about the film. It's about the fact that I said the supplement industry uses people who built their bodies using drugs to try to convince the naive that they did so by using a certain product (usually expensive and worthless)..at NO POINT have you disagreed with this. In fact , I repeat, you justify this by pointing to the fact that it is not only the supplement industry that does this sort of thing.
Ergo, we agree :)
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Dear Bob,
At no point did you question the veracity of what I typed - that has only come in retrospect once you realised that ,like Beoving, you'd managed to undermine the efficacy of the very supplements you plug.
Rather, you did agree by your response that this is how advertising works and the way of the world (and I agreed). If you had said 'no, the supplement industry does not use major league drug addicts with more holes in them than grandma's pin cushion to sell worthless fart powders' ..then that would be disagreeing. You didn't, in fact you pointed to other industries using similar deceptions to sell their products as a justification for your own role in the supplement scam.
The issue isn't really about the film. It's about the fact that I said the supplement industry uses people who built their bodies using drugs to try to convince the naive that they did so by using a certain product (usually expensive and worthless)..at NO POINT have you disagreed with this. In fact , I repeat, you justify this by pointing to the fact that it is not only the supplement industry that does this sort of thing.
Ergo, we agree :)
I've underminded nothing...I've never talked about thei eficiency, or my opinion of them as a whole...you did.
Obviously, you still don't get how advertising works....and you're absolutely astonished that supp companies would use pro BBers to advertise their products....WOW, what a revelation....and they use super models to promote and advertise hair products/ makeup, etc....
Ergo...you're a fool
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I've underminded nothing...I've never talked about thei eficiency, or my opinion of them as a whole...you did.
Obviously, you still don't get how advertising works....and you're absolutely astonished that supp companies would use pro BBers to advertise their products....WOW, what a revelation....and they use super models to promote and advertise hair products/ makeup, etc....
Ergo...you're a fool
Bob, how big do you think you would have competed at at your biggest had you never touched any Anabolic Steroids,Gh or Insulin?
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I've underminded nothing
I'm sorry? 'underminded' is not a word. However, I know what you mean :)
..I've never talked about thei eficiency,
Efficacy is what I said.
Obviously, you still don't get how advertising works....and you're absolutely astonished that supp companies would use pro BBers to advertise their products....WOW, what a revelation....and they use super models to promote and advertise hair products/ makeup, etc....
Ergo...you're a fool
No, you see this is what you don't seem to understand: we agree about advertising. Your appeal to super models etc simply copies my example and reinforces the point. You don't question the scam, you simply appeal to other industries that do it. Your whole justification is not 'no, the supps are great' ..it's merely to point to other companies that do similar practices.
If you're going to call someone a fool at least have the decency to provide them with a moderately competent level of spelling and have some basic understanding of the implications of what you type.
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Doubt it...why would we?
which part of WE do you have no part of? bb.com will sell there own mothers if it made $$$
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Here...I'll break it down for you real simple...YOU think supplements are a scam...I dont.
Having pro's represent companies and their products, don't make the products more/ less effective...
No one claims there aren't other factors involved in attaining an award winning physique....supp companies are selling THEIR product, it's up to the customer to add in the training , dieting, etc....
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Here...I'll break it down for you real simple...YOU think supplements are a scam...I dont.
Having pro's represent companies and their products, don't make the products more/ less effective...
No one claims there aren't other factors involved in attaining an award winning physique....supp companies are selling THEIR product, it's up to the customer to add in the training , dieting, etc....
Why do you think Boving go the can? did he say to much?
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notice how i was between a CHICK.......more than you other getbig homo's have ever achieved
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Here...I'll break it down for you real simple...YOU think supplements are a scam...I dont.
I don't think they're all a 'scam'. I think the majority are junk and the ones that are reasonably effective are vastly overhyped and overpriced. I would say that as far as industries go it's one of the worst and most misleading.
Having pro's represent companies and their products, don't make the products more/ less effective...
Well, I would agree to a large extent. However, one must obviously be sceptical when someone injecting large amounts of AAS,HGH,insulin, often synthol ..is claiming that their physique is largely the result of whatever product it is they're plugging. It means that one can gauge nothing of said product's efficacy. The pro is at best irrelevant to it..and at worst, deliberately misleading.
No one claims there aren't other factors involved in attaining an award winning physique....supp companies are selling THEIR product, it's up to the customer to add in the training , dieting, etc....
Yes, well here's the rub..it's the importance of the 'other factors' and the (minimal to nonexistent) role of the product that is the issue. Obviously, most of us training for some time have come to realize the real products that produce 'steroid like gains' - steroids themselves - but there are genuinely gullible and naive people who will assume that the product played a large role in building that pro physique - in fact, we know they often never even take it.
Now, your answer is 'that's advertising.. welcome to the world.. companies all do it' Again..I would agree with you to a large extent. There was a case of a women plugging some Clinque anti-ageing cream who had had two facelifts. Then there is the airbrushing of pictures...etc.
But this does not change the fact that this is a very shitty business that is extracting millions of dollars from people who, at this stage, do not fully understand the importance of the drug cocktails
in building massive physiques. I guess you're with Boeving on this : they should know better and if they don't realize the importance of AAS in building that body, they're stupid...And we all know that a fool and his money are easily parted.
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Here...I'll break it down for you real simple...YOU think supplements are a scam...I dont.
Having pro's represent companies and their products, don't make the products more/ less effective...
No one claims there aren't other factors involved in attaining an award winning physique....supp companies are selling THEIR product, it's up to the customer to add in the training , dieting, etc....
Any reason why you are avoiding my question,Bob?
Bob, how big do you think you would have competed at at your biggest had you never touched any Anabolic Steroids,Gh or Insulin?
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chic,i don't recall over your bbing career if u ever promoted a supplement for a company?like say muscletech or a top brand.