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Title: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Miss Demeanor on June 17, 2008, 04:13:53 PM
This young man claims he's natural, stands 5'10" and says he is 195 in contest shape (all accomplished in less than two years of training, too).

I think he's lying his cut little butt off.  His shoulders are awfully thick for a boy and his thighs are bigger than any natural male BBer that comes immediately to mind. 

Am I right, or is he natural and I'm just getting cynical from spending time here? ;) 



Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Stu on June 17, 2008, 04:17:51 PM
Nice tablecloth shorts.

 ::)
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Jeffro on June 17, 2008, 04:18:01 PM
id say hes getting some help
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: pumpher on June 17, 2008, 04:18:33 PM
Very impressive if he's natural.

Even impressive if he's juiced considering <2years of training!

How old is he?

Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: candidizzle on June 17, 2008, 04:20:05 PM
i think its possible if he has had a good diet since chilhood and trains hard and eats right ...   

BUT

 is he natural? well even though i think its possible..... i doubt he is; based on that video alone
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: GetItOnNY on June 17, 2008, 04:22:39 PM
He has got round muscle bellies and small joints= good genetics.
But he does need to throw away those ugly ass shorts.They look like they belong on a picnic table
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Bluto on June 17, 2008, 04:25:27 PM
2 years of training
2 months left before he do g4p

great job
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Marty Champions on June 17, 2008, 04:31:06 PM
hes natty

he loves himself obviously

like many who love themselves most will pay close attention to self and improving self

he probably doesnt spend much time bashing others on getbig

a lesson many getbiggers desperatley need to learn

this board is going to crush negativity completley
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: tweeter on June 17, 2008, 04:36:52 PM
That's a real solid physique...I'm gonna say that he is probably natural, although there is really no way to know. That body is definately possible natural though.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: tweeter on June 17, 2008, 04:39:53 PM
He has got round muscle bellies and small joints= good genetics.
But he does need to throw away those ugly ass shorts.They look like they belong on a picnic table
Does it bother you that he wears normal shorts like a regular person instead of daisy dukes and a fanny pack ::)
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: columbusdude82 on June 17, 2008, 05:08:55 PM
Not natural
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: monstercalves on June 17, 2008, 05:10:33 PM
this guy could easily be natural.....u all make 2 short planks seem like a computer
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Zaphod on June 17, 2008, 05:12:14 PM
A white guy at 5'10" with those shoulders?

Nope.

Unless M1T and ergomax, et al are "natural"  ::)
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Marty Champions on June 17, 2008, 05:13:39 PM
the kid is easily natural, he has epic leans, theres no bloat mass in his sholders just ripped dense muscle, no distension HE IS NATURAL i think many of you need personal trainers if you think that physique is unnatainable or juiced
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: monstercalves on June 17, 2008, 05:14:52 PM
A white guy at 5'10" with those shoulders?

Nope.

Unless M1T and ergomax, et al are "natural"  ::)

ur very wrong.....he nowhere near that good for me too think hes not natural
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: monstercalves on June 17, 2008, 05:15:44 PM
the kid is easily natural, he has epic leans, theres no bloat mass in his sholders just ripped dense muscle, no distension HE IS NATURAL i think many of you need personal trainers if you think that physique is unnatainable or juiced

they dont need personal trainers......they just dont know bodybuilding
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Marty Champions on June 17, 2008, 05:19:06 PM
they dont need personal trainers......they just dont know bodybuilding

they dont know life, most grown men are walking around with that mass doing normal 'work' everyday just not all might be that lean because they dont diet they just eat and work over many years and some are strong (the laborer , carpenter, outside worker types lean waist big sholders you see it all the time)
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: spinnis on June 17, 2008, 05:20:47 PM
natural
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: jason armstrong on June 17, 2008, 05:24:01 PM
This young man claims he's natural, stands 5'10" and says he is 195 in contest shape (all accomplished in less than two years of training, too).

I think he's lying his cut little butt off.  His shoulders are awfully thick for a boy and his thighs are bigger than any natural male BBer that comes immediately to mind. 

Am I right, or is he natural and I'm just getting cynical from spending time here? ;) 





no way he is clean he dwarfs all the natties especially in the legs...he's canadian right i swear he was posting on another board asking juice questions last year ...isn't his name "Charley"...anyway he looks like Opie on steroids with a grunge hair style...
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: monstercalves on June 17, 2008, 05:24:26 PM
they dont know life, most grown men are walking around with that mass doing normal 'work' everyday just not all might be that lean because they dont diet they just eat and work over many years and some are strong (the laborer , carpenter, outside worker types lean waist big sholders you see it all the time)

not entirely true ....... i work in construction......it can work the muscles and create muscle mass......but this guy is balanced .... but ur right ........a million other natural humans walk the streets everyday with more muscle mass on their frame..........

just not all in proportion like a bodybuilder........
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Sharma on June 17, 2008, 05:25:37 PM
i like his look very much but he is most certainly not natural. anyone who has trained a long time and seriously would know this. i can even see the site injection
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: monstercalves on June 17, 2008, 05:26:03 PM
look at the levrone vid.......levrone could get into well beter shape than him without gear
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Jeffro on June 17, 2008, 05:26:33 PM
those thighs are a bit suspect    they are really big for a "natural" teenager thats been training for only 2 years
juiced imo
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: monstercalves on June 17, 2008, 05:28:05 PM
i like his look very much but he is most certainly not natural. anyone who has trained a long time and seriously would know this. i can even see the site injection

show me the site injection..........

u obviously dont have a clue..... its very achievable as a natural
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Zaphod on June 17, 2008, 05:30:38 PM
those thighs are a bit suspect    they are really big for a "natural" teenager thats been training for only 2 years
juiced imo

Exactly. Don't forget he's 5'10. Not a short dude.

I'm not sayin he's on a big cycle or anything, probably just some over the counter "legal" steroids.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 17, 2008, 05:39:06 PM
His upper body is SKINNY as fuck, but he does show good size in the quads.

Yes, he could easily be natural-the only reason to even question this broomstick would be because he has some good quads.

His is a skinny fuck, he has AWFUL posing, he has NO size in his upper body at all, including his shoulders.


AND THOSE SHORTS-WTF IS HE THINKING????? AND THEN POSTING THAT SHIT ONLINE???
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Bast000 on June 17, 2008, 05:43:35 PM
Looks natural, but 195lbs in contest shape is inflated.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: columbusdude82 on June 17, 2008, 05:44:03 PM
Not natural ::)
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 17, 2008, 05:44:28 PM
Looks natural, but 195lbs in contest shape is inflated.


BY AT LEAST 20#.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: no one on June 17, 2008, 05:46:30 PM
hes natty

he loves himself obviously

like many who love themselves most will pay close attention to self and improving self

he probably doesnt spend much time bashing others on getbig

a lesson many getbiggers desperatley need to learn

this board is going to crush negativity completley

shut up, stupid.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: no one on June 17, 2008, 05:47:31 PM
Looks natural, but 195lbs in contest shape is inflated.

agreed.

Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Stavios on June 17, 2008, 05:55:27 PM
that's charley, a quebec junior competitor

I believe he is natural, very good built a great genetics !
never saw him in person but he looks about the same size then me at the same height in that video, I believe his 195lbs claim
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Bast000 on June 17, 2008, 05:58:43 PM
More importantly: where are your pictures, 'Miss Demeanor'?
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Emmortal on June 17, 2008, 06:00:41 PM
I'd put him close to 180 at 5'10" in that condition.  I'd say he could be natural but he's probably doing Tren Extreme or something along those lines.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: m8 on June 17, 2008, 06:01:59 PM
He is not natural.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: columbusdude82 on June 17, 2008, 06:02:48 PM
that's charley, a quebec junior competitor

I believe he is natural, very good built a great genetics !
never saw him in person but he looks about the same size then me at the same height in that video, I believe his 195lbs claim

::)
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: saucetradomous on June 17, 2008, 06:09:12 PM
easily natural... Upper body ain't that impressive but for 2 years of solid training that's pretty good.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Dballn247 on June 17, 2008, 06:12:33 PM
Easily natural or he responds to drugs poorly.  He has 0 thickness in his back probably alergic to deadlifts. 
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Miss Demeanor on June 17, 2008, 06:49:41 PM
More importantly: where are your pictures, 'Miss Demeanor'?

Me, more important, "Bast"? ;)

I'll tell you right now I feel comfortable sharing a picture or two with some members, but I don't know that I want them all over the board.  You boys can be pretty merciless!
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: bigdarksnake on June 17, 2008, 06:52:27 PM
natty all the way.....that is attainable.....
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Bast000 on June 17, 2008, 06:54:30 PM
Me, more important, "Bast"? ;)

I'll tell you right now I feel comfortable sharing a picture or two with some members, but I don't know that I want them all over the board.  You boys can be pretty merciless!

pussy!
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Miss Demeanor on June 17, 2008, 07:07:45 PM
pussy!

 :'(



Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Jeffro on June 17, 2008, 07:13:25 PM
natty all the way.....that is attainable.....
yea sure, "bigdarksnake"  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: OTHstrong on June 17, 2008, 07:18:17 PM
that's charley, a quebec junior competitor

I believe he is natural, very good built a great genetics !
never saw him in person but he looks about the same size then me at the same height in that video, I believe his 195lbs claim
Thats very humble of you to say you are the same size, but I wouldn't go that far, I believe you look a good 25 pounds bigger, I would give him 170-175, 5' 10, good cuts, good shape, possibly natural.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: IronMagazine.com on June 17, 2008, 09:30:36 PM
sure, he could be natural.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 17, 2008, 10:00:33 PM
:'(





One question Miss Demeanor-Bald Eagle or landing strip  ::)
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Tombo on June 17, 2008, 10:07:34 PM
its his legs that are awesome, the rest still looks great but its possible with dedication that he's natural
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: 4thAD on June 17, 2008, 10:27:42 PM
Definitely natural, with the exception of legal hormones. He's not very big at all.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Sassyclassywoman on June 17, 2008, 10:34:09 PM
This young man claims he's natural, stands 5'10" and says he is 195 in contest shape (all accomplished in less than two years of training, too).

I think he's lying his cut little butt off.  His shoulders are awfully thick for a boy and his thighs are bigger than any natural male BBer that comes immediately to mind. 

Am I right, or is he natural and I'm just getting cynical from spending time here? ;) 





He probably takes Clen or some other cutting drug.  I think his gains are natural though because he has the same build and size as my boyfriend who is natural.  His 195 lbs. might be an exaggeration though.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Method101 on June 17, 2008, 10:36:49 PM
He has bigger legs than Layne Norton, who has been training for years and knows basically everything about dieting/training, i doubt in under 2 years he would be able to surpass one of the best natural bbers without drugs.

I used layne norton for comparison because hes the only well known natural bber who i truly believe is natural.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: SuperNatural on June 17, 2008, 11:23:07 PM
I was about the same size at the same age natural.  Except in the legs.  Those legs are the only reason to suspect he juices, especially for only training two years.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Jeffro on June 17, 2008, 11:26:46 PM
I was about the same size at the same age natural.  Except in the legs.  Those legs are the only reason to suspect he juices, especially for only training two years.
this is true
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: IronMagazine.com on June 17, 2008, 11:38:37 PM
hasn't anyone ever seen, or better yet known a genetic freak? believe me they do exist, I have had natural friends (only a couple) that were genetic freaks, it sucks because you just cannot compete with them.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Sassyclassywoman on June 17, 2008, 11:42:11 PM
My boyfriend is a genetic freak.  He entered and won the the novice devision at his first bodybuilding show just last saturday.  It was drug tested show.  I think if he touched the juice he would balloon up the 240's and still maintain is awesome v-taper and low bodyfat percentage. 
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Tombo on June 18, 2008, 12:36:17 AM
He probably takes Clen or some other cutting drug.  I think his gains are natural though because he has the same build and size as my boyfriend who is natural.  His 195 lbs. might be an exaggeration though.
naturals who take clen are stupid
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Method101 on June 18, 2008, 07:50:10 AM
My boyfriend is a genetic freak. 
are you saying his dick is only 1 inch long?
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Stavios on June 18, 2008, 08:03:52 AM
::)

what's with the eyes rolling, the kid is natural
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: 240 is Back on June 18, 2008, 08:09:14 AM
two years of training? legs like that at 5 10?  nah.  the "thigh shake" shows he's pretty far into the BBing lifestyle/world, so if I had to bet the rent check, I'd say he's on something, even if only a lot of 1-AD.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Stavios on June 18, 2008, 08:11:45 AM
two years of training? legs like that at 5 10?  nah.  the "thigh shake" shows he's pretty far into the BBing lifestyle/world, so if I had to bet the rent check, I'd say he's on something, even if only a lot of 1-AD.


he is on nothing and doesn't diet he just looks like that year round, being 18 helps staying lean

legs look big because the image is altered at the end of the video and it makes him look wider with the angle and lighting, his legs are big but not that big

again, he is natty and does not take any pro-hormones. I think you guys are only jealous
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Brutal_1 on June 18, 2008, 08:14:22 AM
he is on nothing and doesn't diet he just looks like that year round, being 18 helps staying lean

legs look big because the image is altered at the end of the video and it makes him look wider with the angle and lighting, his legs are big but not that big

again, he is natty and does not take any pro-hormones. I think you guys are only jealous

yeah, I noticed that too, he doesn't show his legs from the normal angle he uses in the other shots.  ANd I wouldn't be wearing shorts with his calves either  ;D
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Stavios on June 18, 2008, 08:16:07 AM
yeah, I noticed that too, he doesn't show his legs from the normal angle he uses in the other shots.  ANd I wouldn't be wearing shorts with his calves either  ;D

I wont hate cause he is a nice kid and he looks very very good for a natural teenager,  once he starts the juice he will blow up like a mofo

very very good genetics
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Bast000 on June 18, 2008, 10:35:48 AM
My boyfriend is a genetic freak.  He entered and won the the novice devision at his first bodybuilding show just last saturday.  It was drug tested show.  I think if he touched the juice he would balloon up the 240's and still maintain is awesome v-taper and low bodyfat percentage. 

maybe he's lying about being natural
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: slaveboy1980 on June 18, 2008, 10:39:47 AM
This young man claims he's natural, stands 5'10" and says he is 195 in contest shape (all accomplished in less than two years of training, too).

I think he's lying his cut little butt off.  His shoulders are awfully thick for a boy and his thighs are bigger than any natural male BBer that comes immediately to mind. 

Am I right, or is he natural and I'm just getting cynical from spending time here? ;) 





cockaholic. no not titos cousin.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: columbusdude82 on June 18, 2008, 11:37:38 AM
what's with the eyes rolling, the kid is natural

::)

Sure he is, "Stavios"... Just as natural as you ::)

::)
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 18, 2008, 11:42:14 AM
ColonicDud just fuck off. you arent funny or interesting. your a boring attention seeking, juvenile troll with nothing original or entertaining to add.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Stavios on June 18, 2008, 11:45:42 AM
::)

Sure he is, "Stavios"... Just as natural as you ::)

::)

what the fuck are you talking about, that guy is natural and I don't know why you guys say otherwise it is perfectly believable.
I don't even know why I am arguing about that
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: columbusdude82 on June 18, 2008, 11:56:22 AM
what the fuck are you talking about, that guy is natural and I don't know why you guys say otherwise it is perfectly believable.
I don't even know why I am arguing about that

Relax, "Stavios". Don't rupture an artery... It's only the Internet. ::)



;)

You know I'm just messing with you bro :)
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Stavios on June 18, 2008, 12:00:32 PM
no biggy I am just a little short tempered these days
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: columbusdude82 on June 18, 2008, 12:01:52 PM
no biggy I am just a little short tempered these days

Sorry man.. I should know better than to mess with you when you're this far in a contest prep diet.

I myself have dieted down to a mere 25% bodyfat... I haven't been this lean since 4th grade!!!
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Stavios on June 18, 2008, 12:02:43 PM
Sorry man.. I should know better than to mess with you when you're this far in a contest prep diet.

I myself have dieted down to a mere 25% bodyfat... I haven't been this lean since 4th grade!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Zaphod on June 18, 2008, 01:02:42 PM
Sorry man.. I should know better than to mess with you when you're this far in a contest prep diet.

I myself have dieted down to a mere 25% bodyfat... I haven't been this lean since 4th grade!!!


awesome
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: medz zeppelin on June 18, 2008, 01:14:22 PM
only 2 years training and he developed quads like that naturally?....is this a fucking joke?
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: 20inch calves on June 18, 2008, 01:16:50 PM
its possible. diet, sleep, lifting regimen would have to be perfect but he COULD have attained that naturally. the problem is most 18-20 yr. guys don't have the discipline to do everything 100%
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on June 18, 2008, 01:20:02 PM
well only the kid in the video really knows if he's natural or not. No one on this board does, unless you are with him 24 hours a day seven days a week u have no clue.

Its all speculation. :)
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: monstercalves on June 18, 2008, 01:55:14 PM
what the fuck are you talking about, that guy is natural and I don't know why you guys say otherwise it is perfectly believable.
I don't even know why I am arguing about that

thank you mate......i also dont understand why ppl here are 100% sure he is on gear....

this is very achievable naturally.....


monstercalves   ;)
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 18, 2008, 01:58:06 PM
I was about the same size at the same age natural.  Except in the legs.  Those legs are the only reason to suspect he juices, especially for only training two years.

I think I said that on page 1.  ::)

His upper body is SKINNY as fuck, but he does show good size in the quads.

Yes, he could easily be natural-the only reason to even question this broomstick would be because he has some good quads.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: james_hetfield on June 18, 2008, 02:28:41 PM
im just curious as to why Stavios is getting so bent out of shape. He himself juices and he sais the kid is the same size as him. Why did you have to juice to be the same size as a kid who only lifted for two years?
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Monster_Everything on June 18, 2008, 02:36:54 PM
im just curious as to why Stavios is getting so bent out of shape. He himself juices and he sais the kid is the same size as him. Why did you have to juice to be the same size as a kid who only lifted for two years?
hahahahah are you saying that Stavois (oh brother what a name) is angry cause he has been 'training ' and has yet to look like that 'James_hetfeild' ?
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: james_hetfield on June 18, 2008, 02:39:50 PM
hahahahah are you saying that Stavois (oh brother what a name) is angry cause he has been 'training ' and has yet to look like that 'James_hetfeild' ?

pffft.. he has yet to look like lars muthafuckin ulrich
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Stavios on June 18, 2008, 02:44:44 PM
im just curious as to why Stavios is getting so bent out of shape. He himself juices and he sais the kid is the same size as him. Why did you have to juice to be the same size as a kid who only lifted for two years?

because I have average size, I am only about 190lb at 5'10 right now (I weight 195 at the gym with my clothes)
so he would be even bigger then me at 195 lbs
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: saucetradomous on June 18, 2008, 02:45:12 PM
what the fuck are you talking about, that guy is natural and I don't know why you guys say otherwise it is perfectly believable.
I don't even know why I am arguing about that

People who don't believe he is a natural have more than likely accomplished nothing themselves naturally.  Someone like yourself and I who have seen how far you can go naturally know what is achievable and what is not.  Those who argue have not traveled as far down that path.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: _bruce_ on June 18, 2008, 02:47:10 PM
Natural
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: Bast000 on June 18, 2008, 02:47:15 PM
Sorry man.. I should know better than to mess with you when you're this far in a contest prep diet.

I myself have dieted down to a mere 25% bodyfat... I haven't been this lean since 4th grade!!!

i call bullshit, post a pic.
Title: Re: Is this teenager "natural"?
Post by: columbusdude82 on June 18, 2008, 07:53:18 PM
i call bullshit, post a pic.

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