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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Religious Debates & Threads => Topic started by: Nordic Superman on June 19, 2008, 03:07:39 PM
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See: http://www.thelondonpaper.com/cs/Satellite/london/news/article/1157152774143?packedargs=suffix%3DArticleController
What's you're opinion of this?
Is islam a religion of peace? It is a FACT that muslim women CANNOT marry non-muslim men.
Muslim men can of course marry non-muslim women, this is part of islam's strategy: control via demographics.
Remember, this is sharia law that dictates this, so is therefore the infallible word of god, which transcends time (i.e. is valid in muhammads time, our time, and ANY time to come).
I'm especially looking forward to the opinions from our muslim posters, which as muslims MUST believe and accept the koran in its entirety.
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See: http://www.thelondonpaper.com/cs/Satellite/london/news/article/1157152774143?packedargs=suffix%3DArticleController
What's you're opinion of this?
Is islam a religion of peace? It is a FACT that muslim women CANNOT marry non-muslim men.
Muslim men can of course marry non-muslim women, this is part of islam's strategy: control via demographics.
Remember, this is sharia law that dictates this, so is therefore the infallible word of god, which transcends time (i.e. is valid in muhammads time, our time, and ANY time to come).
I'm especially looking forward to the opinions from our muslim posters, which as muslims MUST believe and accept the koran in its entirety.
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with these people? Why is the UK not severely restricting the immigration of muslim slime? Can't the gouvernment see that society = does not benefit from this, while people becoming extremely pissed off? Eventually its gonna slam back in teh mussies faces BAD. This shit is isolating them more and more while peoples anger grows. Action = reaction.
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Seriously, what the hell is wrong with these people? Why is the UK not severely restricting the immigration of muslim slime? Can't the gouvernment see that society = does not benefit from this, while people becoming extremely pissed off? Eventually its gonna slam back in teh mussies faces BAD. This shit is isolating them more and more while peoples anger grows. Action = reaction.
Because those pussy ass Brits think they still owe it to the world for all their fuck ups. I say round them up, ship em back out and build a wall around them. Arm them and let them have at each other.
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Because those pussy ass Brits think they still owe it to the world for all their fuck ups. I say round them up, ship em back out and build a wall around them. Arm them and let them have at each other.
Let us just say: Eventually, action = reaction.
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I'm just suprised of the sincerity of the article, names and shames the muslims pretty well!
Still waiting for a muslim responce. Why is it they're always so quiet when things like this happens?
Some kind of acceptance what has gone on here maybe? :-\
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That idea isn't exclusive to Islam. In the New Testament, St. Paul forbids interfaith marriage.
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That idea isn't exclusive to Islam. In the New Testament, St. Paul forbids interfaith marriage.
St. Paul does, but not God?
Or does God specifically state interfaith marriage should not occur?
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That idea isn't exclusive to Islam. In the New Testament, St. Paul forbids interfaith marriage.
St. Paul does, but not God?
Or does God specifically state interfaith marriage should not occur?
Deut. 7:3-4
Neither shalt thou make marriages with them (Hitties, Jebusites, Canaanites, and otehr "-ites"); thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.
For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.
That stems from the Old Testament as well, and it probably had something to do with some of the less-than-savory religious practices of Israel's neighbors (i.e. perverted sexual rituals, self-mutilation; human sacrifice, etc).
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See: http://www.thelondonpaper.com/cs/Satellite/london/news/article/1157152774143?packedargs=suffix%3DArticleController
What's you're opinion of this?
Is islam a religion of peace? It is a FACT that muslim women CANNOT marry non-muslim men.
Muslim men can of course marry non-muslim women, this is part of islam's strategy: control via demographics.
Much as it is here, the woman becomes part of the man's family and assumes his last name. Apparently, the Islamic view is that the wife assumes the faith of her husband.
Therefore, a non-Muslim woman becomes a Muslim by marriage and their kids will be Muslims by default; tranversely, an Muslim woman LEAVES Islam by virtue of marrying a non-Muslim man, especially if that man is Jewish or Christian. Their chidren would be Jewish, Christian, or whatever religious designation the husband happens to be.
If doesn't matter if the wife hits that rug and prays toward Mecca (on time and on cue), if her hubby's a Christian, she's a Christian, too. Thus, she left Islam and some Muslims don't take too kindly to that (based on that other thread about the guy killing his daughter).
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Much as it is here, the woman becomes part of the man's family and assumes his last name.
IApparently, the Islamic view is that the wife assumes the faith of her husband.
Therefore, a non-Muslim woman becomes a Muslim by marriage and their kids will be Muslims by default; tranversely, an Muslim woman LEAVES Islam by virtue of marrying a non-Muslim man, especially if that man is Jewish or Christian. Their chidren would be Jewish, Christian, or whatever religious designation the husband happens to be.
Don't label children, unless you want to start calling them Keynsian children, Marxist children, Existentialist children...children are just children...not the religion of their parents.
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Don't label children, unless you want to start calling them Keynsian children, Marxist children, Existentialist children...children are just children...not the religion of their parents.
The question was why Muslim women aren't allowed to marry non-Muslim men, but Muslim men can wed non-Muslim women.
The answer is simple: The Islamic view appears to be that the wife assumes her husband's faith.
The man represents the WHOLE family. If he's a Muslim, his wife and kids are Muslims, too.
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"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, says the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty" (II Cor. 6:14-18).
This is troubling for me, since I don't want to have children, and the odds of me finding a Christian woman who also doesn't want kids is presumably slim.
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action = reaction.
Spoken like a true social scientist.
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The question was why Muslim women aren't allowed to marry non-Muslim men, but Muslim men can wed non-Muslim women.
The answer is simple: The Islamic view appears to be that the wife assumes her husband's faith.
The man represents the WHOLE family. If he's a Muslim, his wife and kids are Muslims, too.
As if a 3 year old child really has a good grasp of what Islamic doctrine is? or Christian for that matter?
If I ever have children, should they be called material reductionist children? ::)
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"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, says the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty" (II Cor. 6:14-18).
This is troubling for me, since I don't want to have children, and the odds of me finding a Christian woman who also doesn't want kids is presumably slim.
Why no kids? Verily I say unto thee, thou must pass thine hatred of MuscleTech supplements to thy seed, unto the third and fourth generation, lest they consumeth the NITRO-TECH and gaineth 245% more mass than the heathen, who taketh it not.
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The question was why Muslim women aren't allowed to marry non-Muslim men, but Muslim men can wed non-Muslim women.
The answer is simple: The Islamic view appears to be that the wife assumes her husband's faith.
The man represents the WHOLE family. If he's a Muslim, his wife and kids are Muslims, too.
Your answer was to simple. People here won't possibly get it. :)
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As if a 3 year old child really has a good grasp of what Islamic doctrine is? or Christian for that matter?
If I ever have children, should they be called material reductionist children? ::)
And when exactly do you plan to teach your kids your beliefs and values, when they’re on their way out the door to go to college? The simple fact is that parents teach their kids, when those kids are very young. My daughter has been saying grace, before eating, since she could barely talk. And, she usually prays first during family worship. I don’t think anyone would think my daughter is a Buddhist.
And, lest you forget, the issue is the Islamic point of view, in which the husband/father represents the whole family, meaning that his faith is also that of his wife and kids. That’s why Muslim women CANNOT marry non-Muslim men. It is viewed that the wife is leaving Islam to follow her husband’s religion.
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That’s why Muslim women CANNOT marry non-Muslim men. It is viewed that the wife is leaving Islam to follow her husband’s religion.
The muslims better have to learn to deal with it, because muslims women marrying non muslims that does not convert to Islam will only increase, along with former muslims leaving Islam or converting, despite muslim locos wanting to cut their heads off ;D
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The muslims better have to learn to deal with it, because muslims women marrying non muslims that does not convert to Islam will only increase, along with former muslims leaving Islam or converting, despite muslim locos wanting to cut their heads off ;D
i have heard of similar incidents with christian to muslim converts.
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Shit, Muslim women can go on date with a non-Muslim guy, but *cannot* give him a good-night hug. Needless to say, we only went out once.
I met an orthodox Jewish woman at the part one day and we really hit it off. It wasn't a date, but when I extended my hand to shake hands as we said our good-byes, she drew away and said that, being a Jewish woman, it was improper to shake hands. I went to my best friend (reformed Jew) and he said he was unfamiliar with that practice.
Religions are just flat-out wacky.
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Shit, Muslim women can go on date with a non-Muslim guy, but *cannot* give him a good-night hug. Needless to say, we only went out once.
I met an orthodox Jewish woman at the part one day and we really hit it off. It wasn't a date, but when I extended my hand to shake hands as we said our good-byes, she drew away and said that, being a Jewish woman, it was improper to shake hands. I went to my best friend (reformed Jew) and he said he was unfamiliar with that practice.
Religions are just flat-out wacky.
Tre, then what are you doing dating Muslim, Mormon and Orthodox Jewish women? Shouldn't you be dating secular women then? ;D
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I've missed you, loco. :-*
As soon as I have a spare minute, I am gonna start a provocative thread just so we can debate like in the good old days. :D
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I've missed you, loco. :-*
As soon as I have a spare minute, I am gonna start a provocative thread just so we can debate like in the good old days. :D
Thanks columbusdude82! Sure, discussion and debate are always good. I've missed OzmO too, but I know he's been pretty busy on the political board. ;D
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Tre, then what are you doing dating Muslim, Mormon and Orthodox Jewish women? Shouldn't you be dating secular women then? ;D
I like the challenge of trying to bang a religious chick. Never succeeded with an active Muslim, but have been with my share of Jewish women (non-Orthodox) and far more than my share of Mormons.
I'm done with all of them, though - only non-religious girls from now on for me.
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I like the challenge of trying to bang a religious chick. Never succeeded with an active Muslim, but have been with my share of Jewish women (non-Orthodox) and far more than my share of Mormons.
I'm done with all of them, though - only non-religious girls from now on for me.
Aren't you married to a Mormon?
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I like the challenge of trying to bang a religious chick. Never succeeded with an active Muslim, but have been with my share of Jewish women (non-Orthodox) and far more than my share of Mormons.
I'm done with all of them, though - only non-religious girls from now on for me.
You like the challenge you get from religious chicks, but now you are done with them and will pursue only secular girls from now on? Does that mean secular girls are easy? ;D
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Aren't you married to a Mormon?
Long story, but, yeah.
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You like the challenge you get from religious chicks, but now you are done with them and will pursue only secular girls from now on? Does that mean secular girls are easy? ;D
It's not so much that they're easier, but they do have less hang-ups and are, in general, far less likely to go batshit crazy.
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It's not so much that they're easier, but they do have less hang-ups and are, in general, far less likely to go batshit crazy.
I know you didn't mean that secular girls are easier. I was just giving you a hard time. Best wishes to you with your dating life! ;D
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Religious girls tend to be pretty loose.
How many times have we men had to hear "I don't normally do this but..."? :)
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Religious girls tend to be pretty loose.
How many times have we men had to hear "I don't normally do this but..."? :)
How are religious girls a challenge then?
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How are religious girls a challenge then?
Because they believe in all manner of nonsense. I wouldn't date a religious female either, ever.
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Because they believe in all manner of nonsense. I wouldn't date a religious female either, ever.
I would date a girl like STella any day...not STella because she's married, but any single girl like STella. ;D
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How are religious girls a challenge then?
The challenge is in getting rid of their crazy asses. The thought process seems to be "if I end up marrying the guy I 'sinned' with, it's OK".
Dealing with born-again virgins is never worth the trouble. :)
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The challenge is in getting rid of their crazy asses. The thought process seems to be "if I end up marrying the guy I 'sinned' with, it's OK".
Dealing with born-again virgins is never worth the trouble. :)
So you date "born-again" virgins and make them believe that you will marry them just so that you can take their virginity, then you get rid of them just like that? Very classy! ::)
You generalize way too much. I've talked to plenty of promiscuous guys who told me that they could not get "church going girls" to go to bed with them. It makes me sad that there are Christian girls out there that have given you a bad impression of all Christian girls.
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3 years, 3 months, three weeks, three days or three seconds.... if something doesn't work, it doesn't work.
I'm just sick of reformed whores finding Jesus and then claiming to be a new definition of virgin, LOL!
There's a long list of reasons why I wouldn't date a chick. Religious zealotry is only one of them. I also automatically eliminate anyone who uses illegal drugs, mood stabilizers, has pets, to fat, etc... I just don't have any patience left for BS with women.
There might be a few Christian girls who fit your fantasy, but not many. Dealing with reality now will save you a lot of pain. :)
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So you date "born-again" virgins and make them believe that you will marry them just so that you can take their virginity, then you get rid of them just like that? Very classy! ::)
You generalize way too much. I've talked to plenty of promiscuous guys who told me that they could not get "church going girls" to go to bed with them. It makes me sad that there are Christian girls out there that have given you a bad impression of all Christian girls.
Those type chicks are the real freaks...
And it depends on what you mean by Church-going girls. There are those who are whores but go to church pretending they are not, and say "Thank You Jesus", but it is for them not getting pregnant on Fri or Sat. Then you have the ones who are going to church looking for a good man", and many men in the church either have no backbone or are breaking women's backbones. And then you have the really religious women who are that way because they spend all that sexual enegry praying and "holding back the Devil" and keeping away from temptation. When in reality it is their own libido they are keeping in check
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I'm just sick of reformed whores finding Jesus and then claiming to be a new definition of virgin, LOL!
Yes, that always kills me....
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Yes, that always kills me....
You don't hit reformed ho's CQ?
How prejudice of you.