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In their prime, who had the best physique ?
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In their prime, who had the best physique ?
8 times Mr.O. The thread closed.
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In their prime, who had the best physique ?
I know you might be partial to Levrone (by the way who was the desiel Italian dude who used to train with Levrone back in the mid late 90's)
I Beleive Flex had the better physique...
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8 times Mr.O. The thread closed.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAHHH!!! ;)
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Parker i guess you can say i'm partial to kev since i trained with him on occasion at his old gym. I think he's one of the best ever. However, Flex's physique 93/98 Arnold was near perfection. the only thing that hurt imo is his lack of width (back).
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Mr. Levrone
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ray
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Ray, Ronnie
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8 times Mr.O. The thread closed.
I CANT DECIDE WHICH ONE RONNIE = INHUMAN MASS
KEVIN = EVERYTHING PERFECT...
Mr. Levrone
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I CANT DECIDE WHICH ONE RONNIE = INHUMAN MASS
KEVIN = EVERYTHING PERFECT...
settle down old man
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Mr. Levrone
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Now there was a shocker....never would have expected that out of you Earl. :P
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Ronnie.
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I CANT DECIDE WHICH ONE RONNIE = INHUMAN MASS
KEVIN = EVERYTHING PERFECT...
Although at his prime Kevin looked AWESOME, his back was never as big nor was it hanging low enough also his biceps were very flat. Those are the main things that really shine when you put a top shape Coleman next to him, not to mention that Coleman was MUCH bigger at his best.
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Although at his prime Kevin looked AWESOME, his back was never as big nor was it hanging low enough also his biceps were very flat. Those are the main things that really shine when you put a top shape Coleman next to him, not to mention that Coleman was MUCH bigger at his best.
agreed.
I have always felt that Kevin looked not that great in the front and rear double bi shots, but the rest of his shots, particularly the side tri and side chest, looked fantastic.
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FLEX!!!! GAME OVER!!!
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Wheeler beat Levrone in virtually every category, from deeper cuts to better tapers.
I'd rather look like Wheeler but Coleman beat Wheeler in a few key areas including lat & shoulder width, arm definition & size, and thigh size plus he wasn't identified with synthol.
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settle down old man
I guess 23 is old these days here...
Ronnie has an awesome back and Kevin had insane delts.
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Coleman, Wheeler, Yates, Levrone
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Its between flex and kevin , cant decide which one though..I like Dorians work ethic and Sean had a great body to but he was to short..
Even though Ronnie has 8 sandows I just do not like how he looks..IMO He looked much better before he started his assault on olympia glory. Just my opinion though
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i prefer Haney, but given those choices the the answer is obviously S. Ray.
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Levrone for sure. Even at his biggest weight he didn't look close to the preggo status of Doz and Coleman. He outmassed Wheeler without resorting to Synthol and looked like he actually lifted weights, unlike Flex. He looked more aesthetically pleasing than Coleman and placed better against much better contest line ups.
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Has to be Wheeler. Flex at the 93 ASC and 96 NOC were the best you'll ever see
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=220358.0;attach=258253;image)
turnip legs
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I have always felt that Kevin looked not that great in the front and rear double bi shots
I'm going to have to disagree with you there.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Kevin%20Levrone/KevinLevrone9.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Kevin%20Levrone/KevinLevrone23.jpg)
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I'm going to have to disagree with you there.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Kevin%20Levrone/KevinLevrone9.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Kevin%20Levrone/KevinLevrone23.jpg)
HE HAS NO ASS THOUGH.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=220358.0;attach=258253;image)
turnip legs
owned by every single competitor on stage at the same time. and making Flea labrada look like Sergio Oliva LOL
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Has to be Wheeler. Flex at the 93 ASC and 96 NOC were the best you'll ever see
you're quite the flex fan, aren't you willie ;)
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Not being much of a fan of competitive bodybuilding it's funny to me to see that the two guys with IMO the ugliest physiques in that list are the only two to have won the Olympia...
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Parker i guess you can say i'm partial to kev since i trained with him on occasion at his old gym. I think he's one of the best ever. However, Flex's physique 93/98 Arnold was near perfection. the only thing that hurt imo is his lack of width (back).
The 1993 Arnold Classic version of Flex, kinda is the standard at which literally physique can be judged. Not the freakiest, but damn nearly what the "ideal" physique should look like. You can't really spot on flaw on this, unlike Levrone.
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Shawn Ray was 2 steps ahead of those bbers. 8)
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Shawn Ray was 2 steps ahead of those bbers. 8)
And Flex's waist was about 2 inches smaller than Shawn's
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The 1993 Arnold Classic version of Flex, kinda is the standard at which literally physique can be judged. Not the freakiest, but damn nearly what the "ideal" physique should look like. You can't really spot on flaw on this, unlike Levrone.
In those shots you can't spot a flaw but his rear lat spread always sucked!
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You guys are forgetting this guy - probably the best ab-thigh pose ever, the best most muscular and front double bi's with Ronnie, 285 lbs "while keeping the waist in" (as quoted by Arnold)
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You guys are forgetting this guy - probably the best ab-thigh pose ever, the best most muscular and front double bi's with Ronnie, 285 lbs "while keeping the waist in" (as quoted by Arnold)
Look at the above pic of Flex, then look at Nasser, Flex had abs, Nasser had bumps...plus Nasser's obliques pop outside of his trunks...He has no V-taper like that. And Arnold himself said Flex was the most genetically gifted bber.. Not Nasser. Nasser should not and will not be discussed any further. All bbers listed make nasser obsolete in discussion.
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Look at the above pic of Flex, then look at Nasser, Flex had abs, Nasser had bumps...plus Nasser's obliques pop outside of his trunks...He has no V-taper like that. And Arnold himself said Flex was the most genetically gifted bber.. Not Nasser. Nasser should not and will not be discussed any further. All bbers listed make nasser obsolete in discussion.
You're talking as though Nasser had never beaten the names mentioned in the thread title. ::) Everyone's got their own opinion as to who is best amongst them, but trying to argue that he's not in their league is just silly, because for about 3-4 years (during his prime) he consecutively beat all of those guys except for Yates.
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You're talking as though Nasser had never beaten the names mentioned in the thread title. ::) Everyone's got their own opinion as to who is best amongst them, but trying to argue that he's not in their league is just silly, because for about 3-4 years (during his prime) he consecutively beat all of those guys except for Yates.
Yes only when they were off...Nasser's only big win was the 1000 Arnold, where he beat a very on Levrone, who by the way won the "Most Muscular Award".
Flex beat Nasser at the 1997 Arnold at a bodyweight of 224 and won the Most Muscular Award", that right there is saying something. Point Blank, Nasser at his best could not Flex at his best. Nasser could, and would not ever be able to compare to a 1993 Flex or the 1998 Arnold Classic Flex. There is no opinion on that, it's like saying who is the best driver, Michael Schumacher or Richard Petty, any idiot who knows racing knows it would Schuey.
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yates dominated like no other competitor before or since.
everyone chased him.
an article from 98 in muscle and fitness (written by tom prince), it talks about levrone's contest prep and throughout his precontest peroid, he was obsessed with yates and was constantly thinking about him.
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Yates02.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy27.jpg)
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Lee Haney NEEDS to be included in that list, as does Vince Taylor and several other competitors.
I think Nasser and Dillett were in the same league: MAJOR FLAWS (their backs).
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nah,, haney, nasser and vince tayler arent in that golden group,,, haney would be lucky to place top 6 in the haydays of the 90's,, i dont think youl ever see a better group, its just a shame that coleman peaked as yates retired..
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Yes only when they were off...Nasser's only big win was the 1000 Arnold, where he beat a very on Levrone, who by the way won the "Most Muscular Award".
Flex beat Nasser at the 1997 Arnold at a bodyweight of 224 and won the Most Muscular Award", that right there is saying something. Point Blank, Nasser at his best could not Flex at his best. Nasser could, and would not ever be able to compare to a 1993 Flex or the 1998 Arnold Classic Flex. There is no opinion on that, it's like saying who is the best driver, Michael Schumacher or Richard Petty, any idiot who knows racing knows it would Schuey.
From your second paragraph it appears your only critieria is contest placings, so using that logic how can you argue that Flex was even comaprable to Yates since he never beat him?
And no Nasser did not only beat them when they were off. He deserved at least second in 95 but was placed third (still ahead of an "on" Shawn Ray) because he was still a newcomer in the top ranks. Then in 96, 97, and 98 - three years in a row, he beat Levrone at the Olympia - are you saying Levrone was "off" for all three of those years? From 95 Olympia to the 99 Arnold Classic (Nasser's prime), Ray only beat him once at the 96 Olympia.
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From your second paragraph it appears your only critieria is contest placings, so using that logic how can you argue that Flex was even comaprable to Yates since he never beat him?
And no Nasser did not only beat them when they were off. He deserved at least second in 95 but was placed third (still ahead of an "on" Shawn Ray) because he was still a newcomer in the top ranks. Then in 96, 97, and 98 - three years in a row, he beat Levrone at the Olympia - are you saying Levrone was "off" for all three of those years? From 95 Olympia to the 99 Arnold Classic (Nasser's prime), Ray only beat him once at the 96 Olympia.
Yep, many people had Flex winning the 1993 O, and in fact if the criteria wasn't a over the top freak look, Flex would have won. Nasser's Rookie year nor any year can compare to Flex winning his first 4 pro shows and coming second to Yates.
Byt the mid to late 90's Levrone didn't take the O seriously, he switched from taking the O seriously to taking the Arnold seriously, then by 1999, he seemed to switch gears, and took the O seriously and then didn't really work about the Arnold, even Lee Priest was beating him.
Face it Nasser, at his best wouldn't equal to Kev, Flex at their best. He wasn't built for it, plus he like Dillett had a weak back. You are delusional to think other wise. Look at the pics of Kevin, the guy was the one of the only dudes (Dillett was the other one) who could be a mass monster and asthestically pleasing, Flex couldn't play the mass game.
There are many different aspects, and beating one or so competitors is one of them. Ray looked better from front to back than Nasser did, his only flaw was being 205, he could have easily blown into a freak like Nasser or Yates, it is evident by his quads. Ray could have been 235-240 if he so choose. But he kept it in check and played by his own rules. Keeping a classical physique that will get him respect when he's long gone.
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Yep, many people had Flex winning the 1993 O, and in fact if the criteria wasn't a over the top freak look, Flex would have won. Nasser's Rookie year nor any year can compare to Flex winning his first 4 pro shows and coming second to Yates.
Byt the mid to late 90's Levrone didn't take the O seriously, he switched from taking the O seriously to taking the Arnold seriously, then by 1999, he seemed to switch gears, and took the O seriously and then didn't really work about the Arnold, even Lee Priest was beating him.
Face it Nasser, at his best wouldn't equal to Kev, Flex at their best. He wasn't built for it, plus he like Dillett had a weak back. You are delusional to think other wise. Look at the pics of Kevin, the #### was the one of the only dudes (Dillett was the other one) who could be a mass monster and asthestically pleasing, Flex couldn't play the mass game.
There are many different aspects, and beating one or so competitors is one of them. Ray looked better from front to back than Nasser did, his only flaw was being 205, he could have easily blown into a freak like Nasser or Yates, it is evident by his quads. Ray could have been 235-240 if he so choose. But he kept it in check and played by his own rules. Keeping a classical physique that will get him respect when he's long gone.
Everyone's got their own opinion and I'm not going to be like Huilkster or ND and debate in detail as to who is best ouf of the several names mentioned . - what got me replying was your statement that Nasser should not even be discussed with these guys - which is just silly because Nasser beat them many times (except for Yates) while he was in his prime.
And I dont believe Levrone was "off" at the Olympia in the mid to late nighties but only on in the Arnold Classic ::) The only names mentioned that the judges preferred over Nasser in top shape was Wheeler and Yates, as Nasser beat both Levrone and Ray while they were in top shape. Also, if Levrone was peaking for the AC and not the Olympia why did he get 8th at the 97 AC?
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Look at the above pic of Flex, then look at Nasser, Flex had abs, Nasser had bumps...plus Nasser's obliques pop outside of his trunks...He has no V-taper like that. And Arnold himself said Flex was the most genetically gifted bber.. Not Nasser. Nasser should not and will not be discussed any further. All bbers listed make nasser obsolete in discussion.
Flex also won those shows with implants and oil. While Nasser started using oil after 98. Both should be marked down for their use.
To say that Nasser wasn't one of the best in the 90's era is absurd. he helped usher in the era of mass monsters. He changed bodybuilding
You are ignoring Levrone's various weaknesses. Levrone lacked lowerback thickness just like Nasser and also did not consistently have legs comprable to his upperbody
Out of the pool of Yates, Levrone, Nasser, Ray and Coleman, I'd say Sean Ray was the most complete bodybuilder out of the entire group. Yates is simply there because of his stunning performances in 92 and 93, and because he was gifted the rest of the way.
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yates, flex, love them both. levrone too.
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I forgot about TotalLee awesome
thanks for the headsup
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I think Nasser and Dillett were in the same league: MAJOR FLAWS (their backs).
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Look at the above pic of Flex, then look at Nasser, Flex had abs, Nasser had bumps
Just found this ab comparison so I thought I'd post it
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We know that was not Dillett at his respective best.
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Flex also won those shows with implants and oil. While Nasser started using oil after 98. Both should be marked down for their use.
To say that Nasser wasn't one of the best in the 90's era is absurd. he helped usher in the era of mass monsters. He changed bodybuilding
You are ignoring Levrone's various weaknesses. Levrone lacked lowerback thickness just like Nasser and also did not consistently have legs comprable to his upperbody
Out of the pool of Yates, Levrone, Nasser, Ray and Coleman, I'd say Sean Ray was the most complete bodybuilder out of the entire group. Yates is simply there because of his stunning performances in 92 and 93, and because he was gifted the rest of the way.
Nope, Flex never had implants. There was pic posted before of a complete full backshot of Flex from the 1993 Arnold, no implants. Flex even joked about it in his "hardbody" vid. Shawn came up wit th that the f-with his head. As far as the Syn, he won the Arnold 1997 without it and it is doubtful that he used it in 1998. Really in 1999 did he really show that he was using it. Actually it was Kevin, Dorian and Dillett, that did that that really ushered it in Nasser only became relevant as a mass monster by 1996, I even have the Flex magazine with him posing on it.
.Just found this ab comparison so I thought I'd post it
Damn, Bibbobs at least post a pic when Flex is crunching down, not when he is extended out and in mid pose. Try doing that, it lends credibility to your argument. As I said, look at the relaxed pic (the black and white shot), Nasser as nothing on that.
And Yeah, Dillet was a hell of a lot better than Nasser from the front. Nasser was just a big blob of muscle with no shape. Massive yes, but he didn't have Dillett's taper, and full muscle bellies.
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And Flex's waist was about 2 inches smaller than Shawn's
Bullshit
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Damn, Bibbobs at least post a pic when Flex is crunching down, not when he is extended out and in mid pose. Try doing that, it lends credibility to your argument. As I said, look at the relaxed pic (the black and white shot), Nasser as nothing on that.
And Yeah, Dillet was a hell of a lot better than Nasser from the front. Nasser was just a big blob of muscle with no shape. Massive yes, but he didn't have Dillett's taper, and full muscle bellies.
That's the only ab-thigh comparison pic of the two that I know of - if you have another one which you think is less "biased" then feel free to post, I'm also interested in seeing it. I doubt Flex mag would post a comparison pic where Wheeler is not even fully flexed.
And feel free to post a comparison of Nasser and Dillet to support your argument as well - I did post one after all. Nasser was better than Dillet from both the front and back.
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That's the only ab-thigh comparison pic of the two that I know of - if you have another one which you think is less "biased" then feel free to post, I'm also interested in seeing it. I doubt Flex mag would post a comparison pic where Wheeler is not even fully flexed.
And feel free to post a comparison of Nasser and Dillet to support your argument as well - I did post one after all. Nasser was better than Dillet from both the front and back.
Photos are useless,they are but a snapshot..One could be in the middle of posing the other just about to flex..give it up with this nasser shit we all know you love him,is his name mentioned in the thread title? No ,so remove his god awful body from this thread..queer muslim fukwit ::)
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That's the only ab-thigh comparison pic of the two that I know of - if you have another one which you think is less "biased" then feel free to post, I'm also interested in seeing it. I doubt Flex mag would post a comparison pic where Wheeler is not even fully flexed.
And feel free to post a comparison of Nasser and Dillet to support your argument as well - I did post one after all. Nasser was better than Dillet from both the front and back.
You truly are swimming in it, all you have to do is take a look at Flex and see the dude has a better ab thigh (mind you we weren't even talking about Ab-thigh shots), as a matter of fact Flex has cross striations which Nasser does not, neither does he have striations period in his thighs. Also, Flex has a better abdominal wall, and he has better intercorsals as well. The were more defined. And Yes, they do sometimes catch them in mid pose. If anything as I said tat a look at the black and white photo and see Flex's abs are more defined than Nasser's.
As has been talked about previously before had a better V-taper, a smaller waist for his bodymass, better arms, chest, leg separation, delts and traps. He was Freakenstein.
Photos are useless,they are but a snapshot..One could be in the middle of posing the other just about to flex..give it up with this nasser shit we all know you love him,is his name mentioned in the thread title? No ,so remove his god awful body from this thread..queer muslim fukwit ::)
Agreed, I admit that Flex had his flaws, but this dude is making Nasser out to be the shit when he wasn't...And Nasser's name is not even mentioned. It's like somebody asking the question, "who makes the best European sport sedans. Audi, Mercedes, BMW/" And somebody says, "Cadillac". No-one included Cadillac in the
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flex was one of the bodybuilders that relied heavily on synthol and those daft calf implants,, did u see his calves as an amature!!! pure bone, barely a bump... i love when people hold bb's like flex up as the ideal, he was known to use more grear than most, was full or oil and had implants,, just never had the ability to get freaky big,,, he did one of the best shapes ever tho
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HE HAS NO ASS THOUGH.
Are you saying that Earl destroyed it?
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1. Kevrone / Wheeler.
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flex was one of the bodybuilders that relied heavily on synthol and those daft calf implants,, did u see his calves as an amature!!! pure bone, barely a bump... i love when people hold bb's like flex up as the ideal, he was known to use more grear than most, was full or oil and had implants,, just never had the ability to get freaky big,,, he did one of the best shapes ever tho
You don't listen, do you?
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Dear bigbobs and all your other Nasser nut swingers, the man was a 2-3 year wonder.
He looked good exactly between 95-98 and not even that good and not at all occasions, not to mention his SHITTY back.
So please don't try to compare him with people that have consistency of Kevin,Yates,Coleman,Taylor...ok?
Goodbye and happy nut swinging :-*