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What do you think of this nutcase?
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He seems like a presumptuous nutbag.
He seems not to understand the concept of God's Grace.
They are picketing the funeral? For what reason? And what does he have against Jerry Seinfeld? lol oh brother!
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He seems like a presumptuous nutbag.
He seems not to understand the concept of God's Grace.
They are picketing the funeral? For what reason? And what does he have against Jerry Seinfeld? lol oh brother!
How dare you question the righteousness and godliness of God's chosen ones, Westboro Baptist Church? ???
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He seems like a presumptuous nutbag.
He seems not to understand the concept of God's Grace.
They are picketing the funeral? For what reason? And what does he have against Jerry Seinfeld? lol oh brother!
I think he understands it better than you, actually.
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The only attribute of this guy is 'old'. Carlin in contrast was young when he died.
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How dare you question the righteousness and godliness of God's chosen ones, Westboro Baptist Church? ???
Sorry, I didn't realize you were a member :o
I think he understands it better than you, actually.
Understands what? God's Grace? Please explain.
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Phelps is on the fast-track to Gehenna himself. As hard as it may be, we as believers should pray for him.
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Sorry, I didn't realize you were a member :o
Damn right, so just you watch your words, missy 8)
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Phelps is a miserable human being and a coward.
If he had any issue with Carlin, or any of the other people whose funerals he protests, then he should protest them while they are alive.
He's a sick, miserable human being and he probably hates himself more than anyone else
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Sorry, I didn't realize you were a member :o
Understands what? God's Grace? Please explain.
He understands Christianity better.
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Damn right, so just you watch your words, missy 8)
;D
He understands Christianity better.
How so? Could you please be more detailed?
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;D
How so? Could you please be more detailed?
Christianity, in its origins, texts and actualy historical practise is a cult of exclusion, of bigotry and of intolerance; in this respect Mr. Phelps is an astounding exemplar of Christian principles, much more so than you are.
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Christianity, in its origins, texts and actualy historical practise is a cult of exclusion, of bigotry and of intolerance; in this respect Mr. Phelps is an astounding exemplar of Christian principles, much more so than you are.
Er...thanks for the compliment? lol ;D
But I disagree w/your concept of Christianity.
Christianity is:
1) Receiving the cleansing of Jesus Christ
2) Becoming Christlike and serving others
In addition, it is not a "cult of exclusion." Jesus died for everyone's sins. The free gift of forgiveness is available to anyone who will receive it.
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Er...thanks for the compliment? lol ;D
But I disagree w/your concept of Christianity.
Christianity is:
1) Receiving the cleansing of Jesus Christ
2) Becoming Christlike and serving others
In addition, it is not a "cult of exclusion." Jesus died for everyone's sins. The free gift of forgiveness is available to anyone who will receive it.
And those who don't choose to 'receive it' are doomed to burn in hellfire for all eternity; if that is not an exclusive club, I don't know what is.
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Er...thanks for the compliment? lol ;D
But I disagree w/your concept of Christianity.
Christianity is:
1) Receiving the cleansing of Jesus Christ
2) Becoming Christlike and serving others
In addition, it is not a "cult of exclusion." Jesus died for everyone's sins. The free gift of forgiveness is available to anyone who will receive it.
Well said, Buddyro!
What do you think of this nutcase?
Nutcase is a valid description.
But, what we don't know is where George Carlin is....up or down? If he denounced God the same way he denounced religion, then there's evidence to believe he's not in heaven. For all we know his beef could have been just with religion, something totally different from having a personal relationship with God.
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Well said, Buddyro!
Nutcase is a valid description.
But, what we don't know is where George Carlin is....up or down? If he denounced God the same way he denounced religion, then there's evidence to believe he's not in heaven. For all we know his beef could have been just with religion, something totally different from having a personal relationship with God.
Colossus - I'm glad to see that you think Phelps is nuts too.
just fyi - there is no evidence to believe anything about where "Carlin" is now.
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What do you think of this nutcase?
no worries, I'm not a good person, so I'll see this Phelps assclown in hell and kick his face in :)
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I think he is perfectly sane, given the parameters of his belief; he is true to the bible for one thing.
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But, what we don't know is where George Carlin is....up or down? If he denounced God the same way he denounced religion, then there's evidence to believe he's not in heaven. For all we know his beef could have been just with religion, something totally different from having a personal relationship with God.
Good post Ro :)
no worries, I'm not a good person, so I'll see this Phelps assclown in hell and kick his face in :)
;D ;D ;D
(but it's not about being a good person :) )
I think he is perfectly sane, given the parameters of his belief; he is true to the bible for one thing.
No he's not. Even if Carlin stated he rejected Christ as Savior and it was true when he said it, no one knows what happened in Carlin's mind in the last 10 seconds before he died.
Phelps is not "true to the bible" in a lot of things.
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Good post Ro :)
;D ;D ;D
(but it's not about being a good person :) )
No he's not. Even if Carlin stated he rejected Christ as Savior and it was true when he said it, no one knows what happened in Carlin's mind in the last 10 seconds before he died.
Phelps is not "true to the bible" in a lot of things.
Carlin rejected god all the time. I reject god all the time. I deny the Holy Spirit...ooohhhhh....goi ng to hell now....oh well. ::)
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I guess he's either dead like Magritte, or writhing around in the bowels of the earth, with a lot of other damned souls, as illustrated in the yellow portion of the diagram below.
Never really understood the concept of hell, or heaven, for that matter. Where are they really? Is heaven somewhere in outer space, or do souls hover just above the clouds? Is hell frozen over as in Dante's vision, or is it the yellow part of the diagram? Are souls just plain dead until the rapture? So many questions.
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I guess he's either dead like Magritte, or writhing around in the bowels of the earth, with a lot of other damned souls, as illustrated in the yellow portion of the diagram below.
Never really understood the concept of hell, or heaven, for that matter. Where are they really? Is heaven somewhere in outer space, or do souls hover just above the clouds? Is hell frozen over as in Dante's vision, or is it the yellow part of the diagram? Are souls just plain dead until the rapture? So many questions.
Occam's Razor: hell doesn't exist.
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Occam's Razor: hell doesn't exist.
Isn't that where you currently live and work? :)
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Isn't that where you currently live and work? :)
Well, hell on earth is different to hell outside of earth. ;)
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Phelps is a revolting person
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;D ;D ;D
(but it's not about being a good person :) )
Isn't that kind of fucked up... GW can just charge along with no worries. The Dems won't impeach and God will forgive him.
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That guy is the perfect example of turning spirituality into its opposite. If there is a hell, he is already in it and he doesn't even know.
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Carlin rejected god all the time. I reject god all the time. I deny the Holy Spirit...ooohhhhh....goi ng to hell now....oh well. ::)
That's the greatest thing about God. His mercies are brand new every day.
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And those who don't choose to 'receive it' are doomed to burn in hellfire for all eternity; if that is not an exclusive club, I don't know what is.
The flipside of that coin is:
Those that deny Christ and his free gift can also be labeled as members of an exclusive club, the "Reject Christ's Salvation Club".
There is a reason for the choice they make (those in the Reject Christ's Salvation Club) Jesus lays down his life for the sheep but some are not his sheep, and that is "the reason they do not believe", Jesus says.
Romans 11:8
GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY."
Hellfire (lake of fire) was created for Satan and the angels in heaven that rebelled against God.
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The flipside of that coin is:
Those that deny Christ and his free gift can also be labeled as members of an exclusive club, the "Reject Christ's Salvation Club".
There is a reason for the choice they make (those in the Reject Christ's Salvation Club) Jesus lays down his life for the sheep but some are not his sheep, and that is "the reason they do not believe", Jesus says.
Romans 11:8
GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY."
Hellfire (lake of fire) was created for Satan and the angels in heaven that rebelled against God.
All ancient/medieval silliness for little children and adults who don't want to grow up.
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All ancient/medieval silliness for little children and adults who don't want to grow up.
Don't hate on the messenger!
One thing for certain and two things for true;
1) Everyone will die (unless Jesus returns first)
2) Whatever happens after that is a secret
3) Only dead folk know that truth.
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Don't hate on the messenger!
One thing for certain and two things for true;
1) Everyone will die (unless Jesus returns first)
2) Whatever happens after that is a secret
3) Only dead folk know that truth.
We have a pretty good idea of what happens when you die; nothing.
Where were you when Rome fell? When the dinosaurs became extinct? When your fellow Christians burnt down the famed libraries of Alexandria? You didn't exist; and to that nonexistence you shall return.
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We have a pretty good idea of what happens when you die; nothing.
Where were you when Rome fell? When the dinosaurs became extinct? When your fellow Christians burnt down the famed libraries of Alexandria? You didn't exist; and to that nonexistence you shall return.
You have no clue about the after death/life you are have not been there YET!
When the dinosaurs became extinct, my existence as well as yours had not yet come into fruition. Yours and my existence was planned and timed perfectly. You hope you return to nonexistence, this is the hope for all non-believers but soon we will all know the truth just as Carlin knows the truth even at the very momenty in time.
Question for you; Is the entire bible a lie to you?
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You have no clue about the after death/life you are have not been there YET!
When the dinosaurs became extinct, my existence as well as yours had not yet come into fruition. Yours and my existence was planned and timed perfectly. You hope you return to nonexistence, this is the hope for all non-believers but soon we will all know the truth just as Carlin knows the truth even at the very momenty in time.
Question for you; Is the entire bible a lie to you?
The Bible is a collection of myths, fables, pseudohistory and political propaganda. I don't know if that constitutes a lie but it sure comes pretty close.
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The Bible is a collection of myths, fables, pseudohistory and political propaganda. I don't know if that constitutes a lie but it sure comes pretty close.
Seems like you are calling it a book of lies to me!
Well, according to the Bible you fit the model of someone who is lost in their sins! Does'nt mean you can't be saved.
But then again that's between you and God.
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Don't hate on the messenger!
One thing for certain and two things for true;
1) Everyone will die (unless Jesus returns first)
2) Whatever happens after that is a secret
3) Only dead folk know that truth.
See page one of this thread for the answer to no. 2. :)
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Seems like you are calling it a book of lies to me!
Well, according to the Bible you fit the model of someone who is lost in their sins! Does'nt mean you can't be saved.
But then again that's between you and God.
I don't believe in ancient, plagiarised superstition written long ago by goat herders for whom a wheelbarrow would have been a breathtaking feat of technology. We live in the 21st century, come and join us.
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I don't believe in ancient, plagiarised superstition written long ago by goat herders for whom a wheelbarrow would have been a breathtaking feat of technology. We live in the 21st century, come and join us.
I am sure you believe in something ancient, plagiarized (whether superstitious or not) and you have faith in something.
BTW Christianity has been well established that is why it's here to stay. Any attempt to extinguish the fire of the Holy Spirit is futile.
Simply put you have not be enabled to understand God's grace so continue to put your faith in your god/s (Mankind or whatever else was CREATED) instead of the creator and you will surely reap what you have sewn just as George Carlin has (whatever/where ever that maybe) because only Carlin and God knows his whereabouts.
See page one of this thread for the answer to no. 2. :)
Please be more specific; I can't find what you are referring to, thx.
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Please be more specific; I can't find what you are referring to, thx.
People are either going up or down. Heaven or hell, depending on how you've lived your life, whether or not you've been saved.
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People are either going up or down. Heaven or hell, depending on how you've lived your life, whether or not you've been saved.
I disagree my friend.
Our salvation is not based upon what we have done, what we are doing or what we are going to do; It's all about what Christ has done.
Read the entire book of Romans especially chapter 11.
HM
P.S. Saved = Forgiven so you cannot be saved and go to Hell (where that is I don't know but according to the bible Hell is an actual place.
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I disagree my friend.
Our salvation is not based upon what we have done, what we are doing or what we are going to do; It's all about what Christ has done.
Read the entire book of Romans especially chapter 11.
HM
P.S. Saved = Forgiven so you cannot be saved and go to Hell (where that is I don't know but according to the bible Hell is an actual place.
Yes, that's what I meant HM. How you live your life in terms of whether or not you allow yourself to be saved in Jesus. It's a given among most devout Protestant Christians that unless you are saved, you will not be going to heaven. The exception are the Jews, as they are God's chosen. (Although this is recent. In centuries past they were def going to hell.) If you look at this thread, I think most Christians here agree with that. If you think differently HM, I think you're in the minority.
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If history teaches us something it is that being with the majority doesn't mean anything.
It's all a question of what is meant by 'saved in Jesus', 'Heaven' and 'Hell'.
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If history teaches us something it is that being with the majority doesn't mean anything.
It's all a question of what is meant by 'saved in Jesus', 'Heaven' and 'Hell'.
Frage den Herrn Ratzinger...
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Frage den Herrn Ratzinger...
The Vatikan would do so much better if they would just simply shut up from time to time, I'm the first to admit that. They obviously have not realized yet, that in this time and age, people cannot be patronized anymore.
Ratzinger is an interesting character, extremely intelligent and knowledgable but for some reason rather narrow minded in his actions. I would have preferred the Austrian Candidate, Schoenborn. Younger and more open minded.
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The Vatikan would do so much better if they would just simply shut up from time to time, I'm the first to admit that. They obviously have not realized yet, that in this time and age, people cannot be patronized anymore.
Ratzinger is an interesting character, extremely intelligent and knowledgable but for some reason rather narrow minded in his actions. I would have preferred the Austrian Candidate, Schoenborn. Younger and more open minded.
Der Papst ist das Mundwerk Gottes; Du musst Dich dem seinen Willen beugen, denn Gott beraet ihn bei allem, was er tut.
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Der Papst ist das Mundwerk Gottes; Du musst Dich dem seinen Willen beugen, denn Gott beraet ihn bei allem, was er tut.
I'd rather take the direct way.
It's just a tradition, and one that does not exactly have a very glorious history.
PS.: "dem seinen" -> "seinem" ;)
PPS.: Asche auf mein Haupt, Deicide was right, of course ;D
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Yes, that's what I meant HM. How you live your life in terms of whether or not you allow yourself to be saved in Jesus. It's a given among most devout Protestant Christians that unless you are saved, you will not be going to heaven. The exception are the Jews, as they are God's chosen. (Although this is recent. In centuries past they were def going to hell.) If you look at this thread, I think most Christians here agree with that. If you think differently HM, I think you're in the minority.
I maybe missed something here.
I said this:Our salvation is not based upon what we have done, what we are doing or what we are going to do; It's all about what Christ has done.
Read the entire book of Romans especially chapter 11.
You said:"...what I meant HM. How you live your life in terms of whether or not you allow yourself to be saved in Jesus."'
I don't think we are saying the same thing here.
HM
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being a good Christian is about having love in your heart and doing the right thing
it's sad that people are so voracious in their opposition to God, Jesus, and those who are religious
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being a good Christian is about having love in your heart and doing the right thing
it's sad that people are so voracious in their opposition to God, Jesus, and those who are religious
Nothing against the nonexistent...just its inventors...