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He's wrong. Dobson is right. :)
Pastor Who Officiated at Jenna Bush Wedding Launches Pro-Obama Website
Sparks are flying in the 2008 culture wars.
The Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell, leader of the largest Methodist congregation in the country, launched a website yesterday titled "James Dobson Does Not Speak For Me." The site is a jab at Dobson, a stalwart of the religious right who this week called Sen. Barack Obama's interpretation of the Bible in a 2006 speech distorted "to fit [Obama's] own world view, his own confused theology."
Caldwell's site launched a day after Dobson's Focus on the Family radio program aired a harsh assessment of Obama's speech on faith and public policy and encourages readers to sign a statement declaring that Dobson does not represent them.
"I think it's a crime and a shame that Senator Obama has had to explain the fact that he's a Christian," Caldwell said in a recent interview. "Criticize his politics. Criticize his stance on whatever, but don't question his faith. Never in the history of American politics has someone said that he is a Christian and someone came back to say, 'No you're not.'"
If Rev. Caldwell's name sounds familiar, it may be because he is the same Rev. Caldwell who introduced President Bush at the 2000 Republican National Convention and last month officiated at Jenna Bush's wedding ceremony at the presidential ranch in Crawford. This election Caldwell is firmly in the Obama camp and doggedly trying to help the campaign bring other pastors and parishioners along.
Caldwell's site encourages readers to sign this statement:
James Dobson doesn't speak for me.
He doesn't speak for me when he uses religion as a wedge to divide;
He doesn't speak for me when he speaks as the final arbiter on the meaning of the Bible;
...What does speak for me is David's psalm celebrating how good and pleasant it is when we come together in unity;
Micah speaks for me in reminding us that the Lord requires us to act justly, to love mercy and to walk humbly with Him;
...These words speak for me. But when James Dobson attacks Barack Obama, James Dobson doesn't speak for me.
The site also provides a side-by-side transcript of Obama's Call to Renewal speech and Dobson's critique.
Caldwell is not an official surrogate for the Obama campaign, but has for months participated on a weekly Friday morning prayer call with members of Obama's staff and other Christian ministers who dial in from across the county.
Caldwell, who oversees the 14,000-member Windsor Village United Methodist Church in Houston, said he personally prayed with Obama before the Texas primary and talks regularly with Joshua DuBois and Paul Monteiro, the young staffers overseeing the campaign's religious outreach.
The campaign has indicated recently that it will aggressively pursue religious voters, and Obama met with 30 evangelical leaders earlier this month, including the Bishop T.D. Jakes and the Rev. Franklin Graham (son of the Rev. Billy Graham), for an off the record Q & A session. And the campaign is reportedly working on a broad outreach to young evangelicals that it calls "The Joshua Generation."
CBN reporter and blogger David Brody, who has been following the role of faith in the campaign closely, has suggested that Obama will struggle to win over many traditional Evangelicals but has a shot with younger Christians. "Clearly there are differences between Obama's more progressive views of Christianity and the conservative viewpoint. It's important to remember that while Obama will attract some conservative Evangelicals, Obama's main goal is to win over moderate Evangelicals," Brody wrote on his blog. "Also young conservative Evangelicals seem more open to Obama's 'Christian' message of caring for the poor, fighting genocide, healthcare for all, and climate change. They also like the fact that he is reaching out to try and find common ground with conservative faith voters."
For his part, Caldwell, who still considers Bush a personal friend, said he sees similarities between the President and Obama that may appeal to religious voters.
"They are both loyal to their God. They are very loyal to their country. They are very loyal to their wives and their families," Caldwell said. "They are great husbands and great dads. Both of them have a clear understanding of the role that the families play in the community."
Will that be enough for Obama to siphon off some of the heavily Republican evangelical vote, which went overwhelmingly to Bush in 2000 and 2004? If Dobson is any indication, skeptics remain.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/26/pastor_who_officiated_at_jenna.html
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Dobson is right. :)
About what?
About exposing himself to children?
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Kirbyjon??
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I saw this at my grocery store yesterday...
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He's wrong. Dobson is right. :)
brilliant anaylsis
seriously though, your unwavering support of Dobson is odd given his very troubling "advices" on how to de-gay your kid
Since you seem to like the guy so much maybe you can explain how exposing yourself to a child will somehow help said child to not be gay. I just don't get how that's supposed to work.
Is this something you advocate and practice with your own child?
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I saw this at my grocery store yesterday...
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no fucking way... LOL
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I saw this at my grocery store yesterday...
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Sweet! Do they make a nonalcoholic version? :)
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Sweet! Do they make a nonalcoholic version? :)
I don't recall seeing one... Do you not drink any alcohol at all?
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I'm everywhere. :)
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I don't recall seeing one... Do you not drink any alcohol at all?
Nope.
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I'm everywhere. :)
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And to think you still have the time and patience to talk to us on here.... ;)
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And to think you still have the time and patience to talk to us on here.... ;)
Not for long. I have about 45 minutes left. Let's see if I can make Hugo melt down before I leave. :D
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Nope.
Damn... I don't think you would enjoy hangin' out with me...
Not for long. I have about 45 minutes left. Let's see if I can make Hugo melt down before I leave. :D
I never followed this board before, but it seems like a riot :)
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Damn... I don't think you would enjoy hangin' out with me...
I never followed this board before, but it seems like a riot :)
You don't have to be drunk to have a good time. I go pau hana (after work drinks) with folks all the time.
The board is a lot of fun. Very entertaining.
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I'm drunk 24/7 :)
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You don't have to be drunk to have a good time.
True... but I have a really good time when I'm drunk 8)
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True... but I have a really good time when I'm drunk 8)
I'll drink to that :P
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I wonder if Dobson has to get kids drunk before he can get them in the shower?
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I'm drunk 24/7 :)
I would have never guessed. :)
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He's wrong. Dobson is right. :)
Pastor Who Officiated at Jenna Bush Wedding Launches Pro-Obama Website
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/26/pastor_who_officiated_at_jenna.html
Bum - Here's more Right Stuff from Dobson
Right??
"Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger."
LINK: http://www2.focusonthefamily.com/docstudy/newsletters/A000000264.cfm
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Dobson is right. :)
This Dobson fella likes to show his genitals to kids in the shower.
One sick sumbitch right there. I have to wonder about his followers, or those who repeat his sick messages on message boards.
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If McCain were just 60 years younger I'm sure Dobson would endorse him in exchange for a little shower time.
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If McCain were just 60 years younger I'm sure Dobson would endorse him in exchange for a little shower time.
haha, I know for sure now ;)
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some might say that showering with a child for the sole purpose of having that child see your genitals would be the sign of a pederast.
Luckily though Dobsons is a good christian His intentions are pure and he knows that seeing his cock can magically prevent and cure homosexuality, repeated frequently for best results of course.
Does anyone know if it has to be in shower or is it just as effective in the garage or maybe in the car?
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What happens if the childs father is dead?
Should an uncle step in and do the dirty work or perhaps Dobson offers his services directly in this situation
Would a picture of Dobsons magic penis work just as well?
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What happens if the childs father is dead?
Should an uncle step in and do the dirty work or perhaps Dobson offers his services directly in this situation
Would a picture of Dobsons magic penis work just as well?
I believe Dobson has said that if the father is at work, it's the duty of a babysitter, mailman, or sneaky uncle to show the genitals to children.
beach Bum, you believe Dobson is a credible and honest person.
Do you subscribe to his beliefs?
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My recollection is that Beach Bum has written in the past that these "advices" from the Doctor make sense to him.
I assume that his silence on this thread means that he still fully supports Dobson in this regard.
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What happens if the childs father is dead?
Should an uncle step in and do the dirty work or perhaps Dobson offers his services directly in this situation
Would a picture of Dobsons magic penis work just as well?
All excellent questions.... ???
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All excellent questions.... ???
I'm sure it all checks out
I mean this guy is a doctor so he probably conducted rigorous, long term experiments to conclusively prove that gayness in young boys can be both prevented and "treated" by showering with an adult male for the sole purpose of observing his large adult penis
I don't quite understand how it's supposed to work
that's REALLY all I want to know.
I'm not a christian so maybe that's why I don't get it
Is there some part of the bible that addresses this?
I don't understand why the good doctor hasn't published his findings in all the medical journals
::)
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This doc sounds sick to me.
I know beach bum has called him a "great man".
But this dude shows his junk to kids.
That's just not cool.
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This doc sounds sick to me.
I know beach bum has called him a "great man".
But this dude shows his junk to kids.
That's just not cool.
Well the Dobson is not a medical doctor but then again being gay is not a disease.
Dobson use of the words "prevention" and "treatment" are a bit suggestive and misleading
Also very strange that a certain vocal supporters of Dobson has yet to step in and defend Dobson but (in my opinion) even stranger that he wouldn't simply repudiate these ridiculous and (in one case) sick statements by Dobson
Either that or just explain exactly how Dobsons cock cures gayness in young boys
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beach Bum,
do you agree with Dobson, that men should show their genitals to small boys?
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beach Bum,
do you agree with Dobson, that men should show their genitals to small boys?
not to any small boys.
Only to their sons and only for the specific purpose of treating and preventing gayness.
Something magical happens when a adolescent boy who's starting to turn gay showers with his dad and notices that he has a penis too - ONLY BIGGER
It's all very logical and scientific