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PBW Welcomes the Legendary Bill Pearl
Plus: IFBB Houston Pro Preview - Listen Now - On Demand
"Pro Bodybuilding Weekly" welcomes one of the sports most enduring legends when Bill Pearl visits the show for a rare interview. The former Mr. Universe and Mr. America champion discusses some of the legendary battles that elevated him to fame back in the 50's, 60's and 70's. An orignal member of the Bodybuilding Hall of Fame, Pearl was also the IFBB's head judge during an era that included the controversial 1980 Olympia. Since his retirement, Pearl has established himself as one of the sport's most influential authors and ambassadors. - Presented by MuscleTech, this weeks edition of PBW also includes a look ahead to the inaugural IFBB Houston Pro Show and a visit with event promoter Lee Thompson.
PBW airs on Mondays at 8pm ET - visit the broadcast center: www.BodybuildingRadio.com (http://www.BodybuildingRadio.com)
Replay Update: "Where Are They Now" Featuring Tom Prince (Episode # 118) - Past Shows available now at Replay Central (courtesy of Bodybuilding.com)
Presented by MuscleTech and brought to you by Bodybuilding.com and Flex Magazine.
Additional sponsors include The Muscle Asylum Project, MuscleTime.com, Max Muscle.and Six Star Muscle Fuel.
Make your plans to attend the IFBB "Pro Bodybuilding Weekly Championships" in Florida on August 9th (www.PBWProShow.com)
PBW: The Official radio show of the 2008 Olympia Weekend (www.MrOlympia.com).
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Bill Pearl defeated Sean Connery back in the day. Dude had Triceps like Ernie Taylor.
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Who is competing at the Houston contest? Is there a list?
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Bill Pearl, the head judge back in 1980, said Arnold should have been no higher than 5th at the 80 O. Pretty funny because Arnold said on PBW that BIll had him 3rd. How the fu%# did Arnold win?
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hell no, he dwarfed his competition
Mike Mentzer is grossly overrated imo and theres no way he could of beaten Arnold that night
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Yeh iv seen loads of picures and i dont know why anyone was complaining.He was biggest guy on stage and was at a good bodyfat level, also his physique was the most pleasing so he wins IMO
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hell no, he dwarfed his competition
Mike Mentzer is grossly overrated imo and theres no way he could of beaten Arnold that night
Agreed
Arnold kills Mentzer in every bodybuilding aspect
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This would make a great discussion on The Arnold Board.
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How was the show? When will the replay be available?
(Available now - thanks!) 8)
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Bill Pearl, the head judge back in 1980, said Arnold should have been no higher than 5th at the 80 O. Pretty funny because Arnold said on PBW that BIll had him 3rd. How the fu%# did Arnold win?
mods, move this thread to the Arnold Board please!
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mods, move this thread to the Arnold Board please!
who the fukkkkkkkkk goes to the Arnold board? leave that shitttt here.
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who the fukkkkkkkkk goes to the Arnold board? leave that shitttt here.
There isn't one yet, smarty. ::)
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who the fukkkkkkkkk goes to the Arnold board?
Once Ron puts The Arnold Board up, I GUARANTEE that you would be one of many who'd go over there and check it out. So stop trying to put up a front. ;)
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Once Ron puts The Arnold Board up, I GUARANTEE that you would be one of many who'd go over there and check it out. So stop trying to put up a front. ;)
dude there are only 2 things GUARANTEED in life and they are taxes and death. STFU
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Twenty Eight years on and people still deem this worthy of conversation?
Oh brother....
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dude there are only 2 things GUARANTEED in life and they are taxes and death. STFU
Uh Oh! Someone's panty is in a wad. Take a deep breath, NUKK. Go ahead. Now breath out...
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It high time we had that Arnold Board so all the Austrian nuthuggers would migrate there. I'll probably never go there but it will be comforting to know that Arnold's fans have a place to constantly rehash the same shit and masturbate over how great he his.
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It high time we had that Arnold Board so all the Austrian nuthuggers would migrate there. I'll probably never go there but it will be comforting to know that Arnold's fans have a place to constantly rehash the same shit and masturbate over how great he his.
The Arnold board will be the greatest board of all!
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I know I'm bored by Arnold.
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Bill Pearl, the head judge back in 1980, said Arnold should have been no higher than 5th at the 80 O. Pretty funny because Arnold said on PBW that BIll had him 3rd. How the fu%# did Arnold win?
Pretty funny how you give the opinion of one guy that much weigth :)
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Pretty funny how you give the opinion of one guy that much weigth :)
Well, he WAS the head judge in the #1 bb show in world
Guys who were better:
Zane
Coe
Dickerson
Mentzer
Walker
Callender
Tinnerino
Arnold around 8th-9th
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I know I'm bored by Arnold.
I know I'm bored by your posts ::)
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Since this thread has not been graded yet....
I give this thread an overall basic: B- for Balls, well done informative and funny to read.
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Guys who were better:
Zane
Coe
Dickerson
Mentzer
Walker
Callender
Tinnerino
Arnold around 8th-9th
Not only are you wrong, but your confidence is wrong too.
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Yeh iv seen loads of picures and i dont know why anyone was complaining.He was biggest guy on stage and was at a good bodyfat level, also his physique was the most pleasing so he wins IMO
exactly...........
I know I'm bored by Arnold.
nonsense
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Not only are you wrong, but your confidence is wrong too.
Its just my opinion
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Well, he WAS the head judge in the #1 bb show in world
Guys who were better:
Zane
Coe
Dickerson
Mentzer
Walker
Callender
Tinnerino
Arnold around 8th-9th
u serious moose?.....
this is outrageous .... :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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u serious moose?.....
this is outrageous .... :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Yeah...just how I saw it at the time
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i think arnold was outclassed on legs at that show
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Its just my opinion
I underdstand that, but it just seems absurd.
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I underdstand that, but it just seems absurd.
Yeah, well... :-\
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Arnold Should Have Been 5th at the 80 Olympia
No, not fifth. Maybe third losing to number two by a few points.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Yeah...just how I saw it at the time
zane and coe are a joke..........compared to arnold...
walker was not detailed enough but big enough.... callander was good tho but not to win....
dickerson and mentzer wwere very compete but not good enough for dad......
and tinnerino was defeated about 12 years earlier...
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zane and coe are a joke..........compared to arnold...
I would have to say that that is a disrespectful statement, at best...
walker was not detailed enough but big enough.... callander was good tho but not to win....
Not win, but superior to A
dickerson and mentzer wwere very compete but not good enough for dad......
and tinnerino was defeated about 12 years earlier...
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walker was flat and smooth even compared to arnold
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...Presenting awards :) According to Lee Thompson.
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walker was flat and smooth even compared to arnold
In the 1980 Olympia issue of M&F, as well as MM International, Walker was not only favorably compared to A, but, by some reviewers, in a more positive light.
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stop spamming yourself and your 300 dollar websites !
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zane and coe are a joke..........compared to arnold...
walker was not detailed enough but big enough.... callander was good tho but not to win....
dickerson and mentzer wwere very compete but not good enough for dad......
and tinnerino was defeated about 12 years earlier...
This is the truth why can't people see this? Arnold won and back to the comment that bill was the best judge in the best show, well the other judges were also the best judges and in the best show and they had Arnold in first.
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stop spamming yourself and your 300 dollar websites !
hahahahaha.
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...Presenting awards :) According to Lee Thompson.
You big tease....
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Come on, despite what BSN says, we all know Coleman will never compete on a bodybuilding stage again.
Too many injuries, too many years. He'll flirt wtih the idea for another 5 years though.
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This is the truth why can't people see this? Arnold won and back to the comment that bill was the best judge in the best show, well the other judges were also the best judges and in the best show and they had Arnold in first.
There is no 'truth'.
Its all subjective.
YOUR truth is not my truth, yet it is still the truth.
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There is no 'truth'.
Its all subjective.
YOUR truth is not my truth, yet it is still the truth.
I have respect for you since you are old school and you know a lot about bodybuilding, but this horseshit about the sport being subjective is a bunch of garbage thats what the loser says to justify his lose, to prove my point; My father is 63 years old and he has never been to a show in fact he makes fun of us all the time. I took him to a regional level 1 and 2 event and he pointed out the winner of every single category on both events including the females, before they called out the winner, i swear this is tru, he even called out the overall, so if its subjective why can he seperate the winners from the losers without knowing anything about the sport. The odd time we see a bad decision based on politics or bad gudging but everybody is in agreement that Dexter Jackson looks better then Gregg Kovacs. Subjective=BULLSHIT
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I have respect for you since you are old school and you know a lot about bodybuilding, but this horseshit about the sport being subjective is a bunch of garbage thats what the loser says to justify his lose, to prove my point; My father is 63 years old and he has never been to a show in fact he makes fun of us all the time. I took him to a regional level 1 and 2 event and he pointed out the winner of every single category on both events including the females, before they called out the winner, i swear this is tru, he even called out the overall, so if its subjective why can he seperate the winners from the losers without knowing anything about the sport. The odd time we see a bad decision based on politics or bad gudging but everybody is in agreement that Dexter Jackson looks better then Gregg Kovacs. Subjective=BULLSHIT
Your thoughts are respected.
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Kinda` late now......the contest was done and over 28 years ago!! :)
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Kinda` late now......the contest was done and over 28 years ago!! :)
Yes...kinda nuts that the debate rages ever on!
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It goes on and on.
The main thing people do is judge Arnold on his past conditioning,but in my opinion,he was still good enoiugh to win in `80................the judges shared this same opinion!! LOL :)
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Arnold was the best man that day.
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Wouldn't side by side comparisons of all the top six guys doing their mandatories settle this once and for all?
Surely someone (Tim Fogarty?) can post up the pics?
Similarly, people argue about the 94 O when it's actually pretty easy to decide who should have won:
1st 2nd 3rd
Front Double Bi Levrone Ray Yates
Rear Double Bi Ray Levrone Yates
Front Lat Spread Yates Ray Levrone
Rear Lat Spread Yates Ray Levrone
Abs and Thigh Ray Yates Levrone
Side Chest Levrone Yates Ray
Side Tri Ray Yates Levrone
Most Muscular Levrone Yates Ray
...few people looking over the video would disagree with any of these individual pose placings... so then you simply assign three points to a first place, two points to a second place, and one point to a third place and you get a close result:
1st Shawn Ray (17 points)
2nd Dorian Yates (16 points)
3rd Kevin Levrone (15 points)
This result might have changed if bodybuilding had true proper scoring: meaning each and every competitor compared to each and every other competitor (in twos) for each and every mandatory pose instead of the bullshit name recognition and order-of-callouts-deciding-the-result system we have now.
But then again, it doesn't take much thinking to decide on a more equitable judging system... so it stands to reason to assume that the current system is used as a tool to fix contests by means of manipulating the callouts... this was quite apparent in 1980.
The Luke
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Wouldn't side by side comparisons of all the top six guys doing their mandatories settle this once and for all?
Surely someone (Tim Fogarty?) can post up the pics?
Similarly, people argue about the 94 O when it's actually pretty easy to decide who should have won:
1st 2nd 3rd
Front Double Bi Levrone Ray Yates
Rear Double Bi Ray Levrone Yates
Front Lat Spread Yates Ray Levrone
Rear Lat Spread Yates Ray Levrone
Abs and Thigh Ray Yates Levrone
Side Chest Levrone Yates Ray
Side Tri Ray Yates Levrone
Most Muscular Levrone Yates Ray
...few people looking over the video would disagree with any of these individual pose placings... so then you simply assign three points to a first place, two points to a second place, and one point to a third place and you get a close result:
1st Shawn Ray (17 points)
2nd Dorian Yates (16 points)
3rd Kevin Levrone (15 points)
This result might have changed if bodybuilding had true proper scoring: meaning each and every competitor compared to each and every other competitor (in twos) for each and every mandatory pose instead of the bullshit name recognition and order-of-callouts-deciding-the-result system we have now.
But then again, it doesn't take much thinking to decide on a more equitable judging system... so it stands to reason to assume that the current system is used as a tool to fix contests by means of manipulating the callouts... this was quite apparent in 1980.
The Luke
Your "evaluation" of who should have won the 1994 Olympia is wrong on so many levels that I don't even know where to begin...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Your "evaluation" of who should have won the 1994 Olympia is wrong on so many levels that I don't even know where to begin...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
...you use the phrase "Don't know where to begin" a lot. Whenever anyone else attempts to make a contribution you cut them off with one of these dismissive remarks.
Problem is... you never seem to know where to begin and we're all left in the position of having to take your genius on faith. I've never been impressed by your reasoning, humour or contribution SUCKMYMUSCLE... all you ever seem to post is disparaging unfunny quips.
This is GetBig... explain yourself... otherwise you're just another 800-lb-benching supermodel-screwing anonymous armchair know-it-all.
The Luke
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...you use the phrase "Don't know where to begin" a lot. Whenever anyone else attempts to make a contribution you cut them off with one of these dismissive remarks.
The stupidity of what you say is self-evident and precludes the need for further elucidation.
Problem is... you never seem to know where to begin and we're all left in the position of having to take your genius on faith.
This quote is laughable at best, considering I have some of the longest posts in this board's history, where I explain my point in precise and deep detail.
I've never been impressed by your reasoning, humour or contribution SUCKMYMUSCLE... all you ever seem to post is disparaging unfunny quips.
Lmao...hm...ok. I would reply by saying right back at you, but truthfully I don't even read most of your posts for lack of interest, so I can't really evaluate the value of your contributions - although judging from the little I've read of your posts, as well as what other members say about you, I think you are a complete retard.
This is GetBig... explain yourself... otherwise you're just another 800-lb-benching supermodel-screwing anonymous armchair know-it-all.
I stopped reading your "evaluation" of the 1994 Olympia when you gave the back double biceps to Shawn Ray over Dorian. The only thing Ray takes in this mandatory are biceps, and even that's debatable. In terms of muscular thickness, detail, completeness and even conditioning, Dorian wins the mandatory hands down. Dorian takes calves, hams, traps and back. Shawn might be a match or even slightly better in back detail, but Dorian crushes him on width and thickness. You don't need to be a genius to comprehend that a man who is 5'7 and competed at 205 lbs wouldn't be Mr.Olympia. This is bodybuilding above all, and Shawn Ray simply didn't have the sheer muscular thickness to win the Big One.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Bill Pearl defeated Sean Connery back in the day. Dude had Triceps like Ernie Taylor.
Bill Pearl's interview was all class.
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SUCKMYMUSCLE,
I apologise... I thought you were a an attention seeking troll, my mistake... you're obviously an argument mongering Dorian fan-boy kid.
I'll ignore your "contributions" in future.
The Luke
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SUCKMYMUSCLE,
I apologise... I thought you were a an attention seeking troll, my mistake... you're obviously an argument mongering Dorian fan-boy kid.
I'll ignore your "contributions" in future.
The Luke
I accept your admission of defeat. :)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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:)
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Bill Pearl, the head judge back in 1980, said Arnold should have been no higher than 5th at the 80 O. Pretty funny because Arnold said on PBW that BIll had him 3rd. How the fu%# did Arnold win?
I was at that joke contest 1980 it was a set up victory for Arnold one of my frends Jan Jansen told as night before in his Brodway gym what would hapend.
Jan & Frank Burwash were 2 of Australians judges at that Sydney Opera House show after pre-judging they walked away and they did not attend final at 8pm.Aussie audience was boooing very loudly, it was Mike Mentzer or Frank Zane for the title, Joe Weider run of the stage what a coward.Mike did not accept his "trophy" just walked of the stage Frank smashed his in Opera House wall.Arnold the 1st, what a superjoke.
Someone should ask Mr.Pearl what hapend with 2 Aussie judges ?.O, by the Arnold would be a year later Best man at weding of Paul & Caroline Graham promoters of Mr.Olympia '80.
Greetings from Sydney
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Agreed
Arnold kills Mentzer in every bodybuilding aspect
But NOT at Sydney's Mr.Olympia, he was out of shape I was there my frend.
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But NOT at Sydney's Mr.Olympia, he was out of shape I was there my frend.
I was there too! Arnold was IN SHAPE and WON! And what?! :P