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Title: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Stark on July 02, 2008, 08:07:09 AM
So anybody who has read the book Muscles (and if you haven't go buy it now it's worth every penny)

Apparently after Dorian Yates one Mr Olympia for I don't what time, he was standing in the warm up room, tired and muscles hurting in his hand a $100.000,- check.

Along comes Wayne and casually tells him.

I just made more money than you did out there ;)

And walks off.

Anybody believes Wayne would do that?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: mass 04 on July 02, 2008, 08:13:04 AM
I believe it. Levrone told a story about how in an 'athletes' meeting Wayne bitched him out for not sending a form in on time or something. A lot of guys have told stories like this, but who knows.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Stark on July 02, 2008, 08:14:51 AM
I believe it. Levrone told a story about how in an 'athletes' meeting Wayne bitched him out for not sending a form in on time or something. A lot of guys have told stories like this, but who knows.

yep but the difference is, my story is baseless and cruel, your story is just the way Wayne was: Apparently he was brutally honest, and never hid any of the uncomfortable truth.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Figo on July 02, 2008, 08:18:53 AM
Good book, Stark?

Is the title just "Muscles" ? Wanna look for it...
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Stark on July 02, 2008, 08:23:30 AM
Good book, Stark?

Is the title just "Muscles" ? Wanna look for it...

i cannot find it on Amazone, but yes probably the best book that shows you what goes on behind the scenes, there are
so many cool things in there, Chicks try to form a union, the whole Arnold eara Munzers death and so on.
The author spend a considerbal time with all the Pro's including Ronnie and Jay and Wayne etc...

Cool thing is he even talks about the internet feuds T-nation and I even believe Getbig is mentioned.

it's pretty much a must read, he is obviously (or became) a fan of bodybuilding but it's very honest especially when it comes down to the
druguse and Weiders desperate tries to limit the impact they had on BB.

Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: UNDERCOVER on July 02, 2008, 08:25:18 AM
muscle by john hotton i think is is 
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Figo on July 02, 2008, 08:27:21 AM
i cannot find it on Amazone, but yes probably the best book that shows you what goes on behind the scenes, there are
so many cool things in there, Chicks try to form a union, the whole Arnold eara Munzers death and so on.
The author spend a considerbal time with all the Pro's including Ronnie and Jay and Wayne etc...

Cool thing is he even talks about the internet feuds T-nation and I even believe Getbig is mentioned.

it's pretty much a must read, he is obviously (or became) a fan of bodybuilding but it's very honest especially when it comes down to the
druguse and Weiders desperate tries to limit the impact they had on BB.



Cool, thanks bro. 8)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Figo on July 02, 2008, 08:31:01 AM
muscle by john hotton i think is is 

Found it, thanks. :)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Stark on July 02, 2008, 08:32:07 AM
muscle by john hotton i think is is 

good man, that's it

http://www.amazon.com/Muscle-Writers-Through-Sport-Boundaries/dp/0224069675
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: swilkins1984 on July 02, 2008, 08:34:51 AM
Did anyone actually like Wayne? Even the Weiders hated his guts in the end.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Figo on July 02, 2008, 08:35:47 AM
Did anyone actually like Wayne? Even the Weiders hated his guts in the end.

His bank manager.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: d0nny2600 on July 02, 2008, 09:14:30 AM
I hear Dorian tried to eat him with Oatmeal and raisins shortly after
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Fortress on July 02, 2008, 09:17:37 AM
That would have been a total ass thing to say if it's true.

If he did say such a thing, Dorian should have made him buckle like a cheap card table for such disrespect.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: WJ_Harley on July 02, 2008, 09:18:29 AM
That would have been a total ass thing to say if it's true.

If he did say such a thing, Dorian should have made him buckle like a cheap card table for such disrespect.
Dorian ain't gonna hit anyone, he's a bitch, that UFC dude punched him and he didn't anything.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Pete Nice on July 02, 2008, 09:21:03 AM
Dorian ain't gonna hit anyone, he's a bitch, that UFC dude punched him and he didn't anything.

WJ....It's great to have you back my dear friend
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: WJ_Harley on July 02, 2008, 09:21:51 AM
WJ....It's great to have you back my dear friend
great to be back, sir.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Ruffneck on July 02, 2008, 09:23:25 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222017.0;attach=259937;image)

Good to see Gunter is still looking big!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Pete Nice on July 02, 2008, 09:24:42 AM
great to be back, sir.

I'll be PM'ing you soon...I've seem to lost my balance between bb'ing and cage fighting.  I need to return to my previous form.  The ring girls ass holes at the skank dive bar cage fights just tasted too good.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: WJ_Harley on July 02, 2008, 09:26:00 AM
I'll be PM'ing you soon...I've seem to lost my balance between bb'ing and cage fighting.  I need to return to my previous form.  The ring girls ass holes at the skank dive bar cage fights just tasted too good.
cool, i can let you in on all the new Affliction and Tap Out fashions.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Zaphod on July 02, 2008, 09:38:31 AM
great to be back, sir.

YES!!!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Earl1972 on July 02, 2008, 09:49:13 AM
what exactly are you saying/

wayne is a dick for saying that or dorian should be making more money than wayne?

E
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Fortress on July 02, 2008, 10:23:15 AM
Dorian ain't gonna hit anyone, he's a bitch, that UFC dude punched him and he didn't anything.

Love to see you call the man a bitch to his face.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Royalty on July 02, 2008, 10:31:13 AM
Dave Fischer once said that once his IFBB carreer was over, he was going to knock out a high ranking IFBB official that was at all the pro shows. He didnt name names but I assumed it was Wayne.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Fortress on July 02, 2008, 10:46:09 AM
Dave Fischer once said that once his IFBB carreer was over, he was going to knock out a high ranking IFBB official that was at all the pro shows. He didnt name names but I assumed it was Wayne.

Dave's a friend. He's also capable of damaging someone's mug. Have to ask him about this when we speak.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: MRMD2003 on July 02, 2008, 04:09:58 PM
Royalty,
             do you live in MD ?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on July 02, 2008, 04:54:56 PM
yeh, good book....Ive read it a few times but I lost it on holiday.
Dorian himself wasnt a saint, according to Wayne Demilia when the european shows were on (3 shows consecutively) Dorian would not compete unless the prize money for first place was $15,000 in all 3 shows compared to the original $10,000.
But when Dorian became promoter and did the british grandprix he did the complete opposite, he attempted to lower the price money from the original $10,000 for first so the athletes would get less money overrall.
Sure the costs of running these shows are a fortune but he wasnt doing the bodybuilders any favours.

That said, Dorian did deny it so really it just comes down to who is more credible; Dorian or Wayne?



Wayne never took any bullshit, he was an autocratic leader who took charge of a sport that revolved around controvorsey!
Bodybuilders always bitched and moaned to him whether it'd be the prize money or their placings but they never understood the systematic approaches he took to run the IFBB or promote contests such as the Mr Olympia.
Finances, sponsors involved, marketing aspects etc; its not easy to hype up a contest when you already knew the winner a year beforehand.
The general consensus is true, bodybuilders aren't very smart and so thats why they needed someone like Wayne to organize them whether they loved or hated him.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Moosejay on July 02, 2008, 04:58:44 PM
yeh, good book....Ive read it a few times but I lost it on holiday.
Dorian himself wasnt a saint, according to Wayne Demilia when the european shows were on (3 shows consecutively) Dorian would not compete unless the prize money for first place was $15,000 in all 3 shows compared to the original $10,000.
But when Dorian became promoter and did the british grandprix he did the complete opposite, he attempted to lower the price money from the original $10,000 for first so the athletes would get less money overrall.
Sure the costs of running these shows are a fortune but he wasnt doing the bodybuilders any favours.

That said, Dorian did deny it so really it just comes down to who is more credible; Dorian or Wayne?



Wayne never took any bullshit, he was an autocratic leader who took charge of a sport that revolved around controvorsey!
Bodybuilders always bitched and moaned to him whether it'd be the prize money or their placings but they never understood the systematic approaches he took to run the IFBB or promote contests such as the Mr Olympia.
Finances, sponsors involved, marketing aspects etc; its not easy to hype up a contest when you already knew the winner a year beforehand.
The general consensus is true, bodybuilders aren't very smart and so thats why they needed someone like Wayne to organize them whether they loved or hated him.

I am with Wayne on this.

I have promoted shows...no matter what the size, its an incredibly hard thing to do.

I'd say more pros than not that I have dealt with are difficult, moody, obnoxious, unrealistic as to their entertainment value and necvessity to have on hand so the show is a success, and just not good businessmen.

He had to rule with an iron hand.

Imagine if these guys tried to run a show themselves? It would not happen.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Dr Kincaid on July 02, 2008, 07:59:07 PM
Yep great book,  remember there was a chapter about Guntermania, remember Guntermania?
And some dude called the Welsh Beast?
IFBB seemed much more pro and not on the verge of falling down with Wayne.
They even once used to have a Pro tour in Europe.
I can imagine he was not Mr Popularity.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: TechnoViking on July 02, 2008, 08:36:06 PM
Everyone says Wayne was a dick...I wonder when Karma will come back to bite him on the ass...
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: m8 on July 02, 2008, 08:51:19 PM
Dorian should have killed him.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: NotMrAverage on July 03, 2008, 04:05:15 AM
So where can i Order this book?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on July 03, 2008, 04:35:58 AM
Just want to add, great book.

I thought it was funny the author interviewed Grant Thomas in 1997 and said he thought there was nothing special about bodybuilding that it was just another sport no-one knew much about.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs Wayne DeMilia
Post by: Stark on July 03, 2008, 04:42:23 AM
So where can i Order this book?

Come on don't be lazy the link has been posted on the first page

http://www.amazon.com/Muscle-Writers-Through-Sport-Boundaries/dp/0224069675