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Title: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Bluto on July 02, 2008, 04:29:51 PM
for example ronnie thanks god when he wins mr olympia

god gave him the genetics and everything else to become what he became

but why doesnt god give more people this opportunity

why god give this to ronnie

whatabout fairness ?

why is god unfair ? or is he unfair

and do you love a unfair god ?

god speaks through ronnie through his body and his stage performance

so in a sense, we are closer to god through ronnie than maybe never otherwise.

is ronnie god's child?

and if we're all gods children maybe god preferes some over others ? it sure looks that way.

a god with a preference.

do we want a god with a preference ?

thats like a mother that prefers one child over another.

isnt that a horrible thing ?
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Moosejay on July 02, 2008, 04:34:40 PM
Did God tell Coleman to utter:

"That's Just One White Man's Opinion"?
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: bebop396 on July 02, 2008, 04:37:21 PM
If there is a god given, its potential....You dont use it, you lose it....

If Ronnie Coleman did not use steroids, he would not have discovered his potential....
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 04:41:37 PM
Ronnie is a blasphemer in different times it would be killed for it , now and days religion is a joke they bitch who cares .  ???
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Moosejay on July 02, 2008, 04:43:51 PM
I have read that, southern baptists in particular, always reference God and Jesus in praise, and thanks, as, when many of them invariably run afoul of the law, then, in turn, God and/or Jesus automatically forgives them.

Kind of like a divine, 'Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free' card.
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 04:46:04 PM
I have read that, southern baptists in particular, always reference God and Jesus in praise, and thanks, as, when many of them invariably run afoul of the law, then, in turn, God and/or Jesus automatically forgives them.

Kind of like a divine, 'Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free' card.

The irony that religion was forced on them by their Southern slave owners as some hope for a better after-life because the one they were living was miserable
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: kh300 on July 02, 2008, 04:50:29 PM
for example ronnie thanks god when he wins mr olympia

god gave him the genetics and everything else to become what he became

but why doesnt god give more people this opportunity

why god give this to ronnie

whatabout fairness ?

why is god unfair ? or is he unfair

and do you love a unfair god ?

god speaks through ronnie through his body and his stage performance

so in a sense, we are closer to god through ronnie than maybe never otherwise.

is ronnie god's child?

and if we're all gods children maybe god preferes some over others ? it sure looks that way.

a god with a preference.

do we want a god with a preference ?

thats like a mother that prefers one child over another.

isnt that a horrible thing ?


i dont talk about religion. it should be a private issue that you keep to yourself. believing in God is a personal choice that only you can understand. there is no point in trying to even explain or argue about your own religion.

but to make one point. if you dont believe or accept a god, why would he be "fair" to you.

there are millions of questions in this world. all your answers are in one spot.
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Deadpool on July 02, 2008, 04:56:10 PM
Bluto, this is why you are number one on getbig. 
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: MAXX on July 02, 2008, 04:57:13 PM
The irony that religion was forced on them by their Southern slave owners as some hope for a better after-life because the one they were living was miserable
true. sad isn't it  :-\

"Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions."

 ;)
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 04:57:21 PM

i dont talk about religion. it should be a private issue that you keep to yourself. believing in God is a personal choice that only you can understand. there is no point in trying to even explain or argue about your own religion.

but to make one point. if you dont believe or accept a god, why would he be "fair" to you.

there are millions of questions in this world. all your answers are in one spot.

God isn't a ' personal choice ' its forced on children by parents who are just repeating what their parents did , what parent give their and option? none and the people who do end up finding God are looking for something their can't find in themselves , lots of people find God apparently he likes to hang out in prison .
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Bluto on July 02, 2008, 04:59:16 PM
but let's assume there is a god

does he speak through ronnie ?

apparantely he gave ronnie genetics he didnt give to many others

god isnt just

god picks favors

god favors ronnie

Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Deadpool on July 02, 2008, 05:01:01 PM
ronnie came and went.  all gave some, but some gave all  :'(
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Moosejay on July 02, 2008, 05:02:14 PM
but let's assume there is a god

does he speak through ronnie ?

apparantely he gave ronnie genetics he didnt give to many others

god isnt just

god picks favors

god favors ronnie



I'd wager there are countless persons on this planet who have Coleman's genetics or better, who will never touch a weight.
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Moosejay on July 02, 2008, 05:03:53 PM
If you ever watch boxing, such as on HBO, when Larry Merchant comes into the ring to interview the winner, the FIRST thing the winner often does is NOT answer Larry's question, he goes into a short or long diatribe about God, etc.

As if he left this as the last thing he'd say, Larry would take the mike away.
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: jaejonna on July 02, 2008, 05:05:51 PM
If you ever watch boxing, such as on HBO, when Larry Merchant comes into the ring to interview the winner, the FIRST thing the winner often does is NOT answer Larry's question, he goes into a short or long diatribe about God, etc.

As if he left this as the last thing he'd say, Larry would take the mike away.
good post  ::)
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Moosejay on July 02, 2008, 05:07:07 PM
good post  ::)

Thanks!
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: kh300 on July 02, 2008, 05:08:04 PM
God isn't a ' personal choice ' its forced on children by parents who are just repeating what their parents did , what parent give their and option? none and the people who do end up finding God are looking for something their can't find in themselves , lots of people find God apparently he likes to hang out in prison .


lots of people find god in prison since most of those people have hit rock bottom, and they find out there is a better life if its followed with structure and morals. something they didnt have which landed them in prison.

im catholic so im not one of these religious fanatics that i cant stand. but i look at it like you go to school to sharpen your mind. you go to church to sharpen your spirit, and soul.

so if you say only weak people go to church, then its fair to say only dumb people go to school.
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 05:09:14 PM
If you ever watch boxing, such as on HBO, when Larry Merchant comes into the ring to interview the winner, the FIRST thing the winner often does is NOT answer Larry's question, he goes into a short or long diatribe about God, etc.

As if he left this as the last thing he'd say, Larry would take the mike away.

They're going through the motions it make them seem like humble guys , Tyson use to praise Allah and boy did he need forgiveness for his sins lol
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Moosejay on July 02, 2008, 05:10:44 PM
nothing wrong with spiritual values.

No, no of course not.

But you can tell the network does not wanna hear it. They likely feel like it will alienate some viwers.
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: MAXX on July 02, 2008, 05:13:34 PM

lots of people find god in prison since most of those people have hit rock bottom, and they find out there is a better life if its followed with structure and morals. something they didnt have which landed them in prison.

im catholic so im not one of these religious fanatics that i cant stand. but i look at it like you go to school to sharpen your mind. you go to church to sharpen your spirit, and soul.

so if you say only weak people go to church, then its fair to say only dumb people go to school.
thats because criminals often where not taught any morals in their upbringing. so when they come to prison and get to reflect over things and read books, they find the bible as a moral guidance. the bible is good in that way. it teaches somewhat good morals. in some other aspects not though.
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 05:13:43 PM

lots of people find god in prison since most of those people have hit rock bottom, and they find out there is a better life if its followed with structure and morals. something they didnt have which landed them in prison.

im catholic so im not one of these religious fanatics that i cant stand. but i look at it like you go to school to sharpen your mind. you go to church to sharpen your spirit, and soul.

so if you say only weak people go to church, then its fair to say only dumb people go to school.

I always laugh out loud when people use the bible & God as a moral template , it shows they actually never read the whole bible , I have if you get your morals based on it I feel bad for you

and you agree with my point that these people are looking for something simple minded people can't find it in themselves so they seek else where and there is no better life they're already in prison , they're hoping for a better ' after-life ' because they fucked this one up.
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: MAXX on July 02, 2008, 05:16:00 PM
I always laugh out loud when people use the bible & God as a moral template , it shows they actually never read the whole bible , I have if you get your morals based on it I feel bad for you

and you agree with my point that these people are looking for something simple minded people can't find it in themselves so they seek else where and there is no better life they're already in prison , they're hoping for a better ' after-life ' because they fucked this one up.
its better to have religious morals than not having any morals at all dont you say?
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 05:16:51 PM
No, no of course not.

But you can tell the network does not wanna hear it. They likely feel like it will alienate some viwers.

Its pure arrogance , entertaining God is real and bestows abilities on people don't you think he would have much more important things to do than to make sure that overhand right to connect , there is an Aids epidemic in Africa I think God should be taking care of that , but NO he needs to reach out to the boxing community lol its egotistical
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Moosejay on July 02, 2008, 05:19:49 PM
Its pure arrogance , entertaining God is real and bestows abilities on people don't you think he would have much more important things to do than to make sure that overhand right to connect , there is an Aids epidemic in Africa I think God should be taking care of that , but NO he needs to reach out to the boxing community lol its egotistical

Agreed.

Egotisitical and inane.

The winner thanks God.

As though God was NOT watching over the guy he knocked out. Like God had some money riding on him.
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 05:20:02 PM
its better to have religious morals than not having any morals at all dont you say?

Which implies without ' religious ' morals you can't have any , morals are innate . when you do something good you feel good , when you do something bad you feel bad its simple.
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 05:23:00 PM
Agreed.

Egotisitical and inane.

The winner thanks God.

As though God was NOT watching over the guy he knocked out. Like God had some money riding on him.

How does knocking another man out serve God? do people in the audience say " Wow he folded him in half I think I should go to church more " I mean what does it mean?
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Moosejay on July 02, 2008, 05:27:49 PM
How does knocking another man out serve God? do people in the audience say " Wow he folded him in half I think I should go to church more " I mean what does it mean?

They don't know what it means. They just say it for reasons I mentioned above.
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: kh300 on July 02, 2008, 05:28:08 PM
Which implies without ' religious ' morals you can't have any , morals are innate . when you do something good you feel good , when you do something bad you feel bad its simple.



no its not simple, and no its not easy. life is not easy, and many things are out of our control.  if you can fight life's temptations without a god looking down on you. then your a better man then me.
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: MAXX on July 02, 2008, 05:30:49 PM

no its not simple, and no its not easy. life is not easy, and many things are out of our control.  if you can fight life's temptations without a god looking down on you. then your a better man then me.
what temptations is it you are speaking of that are morally wrong?
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: kh300 on July 02, 2008, 05:32:41 PM
How does knocking another man out serve God? do people in the audience say " Wow he folded him in half I think I should go to church more " I mean what does it mean?

how does me fucking some girl serve god?  how does me riding my motorcycle serve god? how does going to the gym serve god? how does me lifting up my ass and dropping a bomb like i just did serve god?

2 competitors in a ring is not like going up to some random person in the street and knocking them out. maybee you do need a lesson to understand morals.

Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: MAXX on July 02, 2008, 05:34:02 PM
nvm :p
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 05:34:54 PM

no its not simple, and no its not easy. life is not easy, and many things are out of our control.  if you can fight life's temptations without a god looking down on you. then your a better man then me.

I don't the treat of eternal damnation to keep me from doing harm to myself or others or the reward of eternal bliss either , we all have temptations , we all make mistakes as the real life lesson if learning from them and not repeating them



Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: kh300 on July 02, 2008, 05:36:52 PM
what temptations is it you are speaking of that are morally wrong?

anything to deal with money,status, power, pleasure, selfishness, cheating.....
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: kh300 on July 02, 2008, 05:37:59 PM
I don't the treat of eternal damnation to keep me from doing harm to myself or others or the reward of eternal bliss either , we all have temptations , we all make mistakes as the real life lesson if learning from them and not repeating them





why dont you do bad things then?
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 05:39:17 PM
how does me fucking some girl serve god?  how does me riding my motorcycle serve god? how does going to the gym serve god? how does me lifting up my ass and dropping a bomb like i just did serve god?

2 competitors in a ring is not like going up to some random person in the street and knocking them out. maybee you do need a lesson to understand morals.



Again how does thanking God for such dumb shit serve him? and what you just typed has nothing to do with morals I don't need any lessons on morals I live my life by a stricter moral code than 99% of religious people I encounter

Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 05:42:07 PM
why dont you do bad things then?

Respect , because I respect myself and others I'm no angel ( no pun ) but again its innate when I do or did bad things I felt bad , not because I might not be going to heaven because I disappointed myself and others I like to learn especially from my mistakes so I don't repeat them
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Bluto on July 02, 2008, 05:46:39 PM
but ronnie

got god given genetics.

hear me =

?

GUY GOT GOD GIVEN GENETICS
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: kh300 on July 02, 2008, 05:50:34 PM
Respect , because I respect myself and others I'm no angel ( no pun ) but again its innate when I do or did bad things I felt bad , not because I might not be going to heaven because I disappointed myself and others I like to learn especially from my mistakes so I don't repeat them

the definition of religion -Anything that involves the association of people in a manner resembling a religious institution or by following the word of God.

think your not religious?
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 05:51:52 PM
anything to deal with money,status, power, pleasure, selfishness, cheating.....

I reminds me of the quote from Einstein who was commenting on being punished for being created that way , if God didn't want us to be like that he wouldn't have made us that way

Which leads one to believe that anyone who can create the Universe and everything in it is supremely intelligent and couldn't be bothered with such trivial nonsense , some who needs constant praise a complete meglomanical personality who is jealous if you praise other ' Gods ' anyone who buys into this nonsense is entitled to but it also entitles me to ridicule them for doing so
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 05:53:19 PM
the definition of religion -Anything that involves the association of people in a manner resembling a religious institution or by following the word of God.

think your not religious?

I don't think I'm not religious , I know I'm not  ;)
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 05:54:07 PM
but ronnie

got god given genetics.

hear me =

?

GUY GOT GOD GIVEN GENETICS

God didn't give Ronnie his genetics , his mum & dad did !!
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Bluto on July 02, 2008, 06:10:08 PM
God didn't give Ronnie his genetics , his mum & dad did !!

keep telling yourself that
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 06:14:52 PM
keep telling yourself that

why didn't God give him legpress abilities?  ???
Title: Re: god speaks through ronnie coleman
Post by: Bluto on July 02, 2008, 06:16:19 PM
why didn't God give him legpress abilities?  ???

cause god already given it away to dorian yates