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Which do you prefer to include for back day and why?
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if you're not doing deadlifts then do both of them, if you're doing deads then just do db rows.
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for back development, i used to do a staggered thing. BB rows for my heavy lift, then pullups, then lighter DB rows, then pulldowns.
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I get too tired on db rows when going heavy to give both sides equal effort. I prefer BB rows.
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I get too tired on db rows when going heavy to give both sides equal effort. I prefer BB rows.
you shouldn't do it in direct sequence. treat each side like a different set. do your reps on the left side, wait a minute, then the right.
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I get too tired on db rows when going heavy to give both sides equal effort. I prefer BB rows.
the trick is to take your normal rest period between sets before doing the opposite arm, do one arm, wait your normal 2-3 minutes or whatever you take between sets and do the other arm.
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you shouldn't do it in direct sequence. treat each side like a different set. do your reps on the left side, wait a minute, then the right.
dammit, beat me to the punch. ;D
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IMO BB rows are not as effective as T-bar or DB row and are also far more exhausting and potentially injurious due to the loads put on the large muscles including lower back. Schwarzenegger for example substituted T-bar for BB rows.
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both
get over it
next question
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Thats true I don't wait between arms. I'll try that and it will fix the problem for sure.
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I prefer BB rows but I never include them if I do Deads the same day. Db rows are more analytical, BB rows are better if you want to train heavy. Training back is, to me, more complex than any other body parts as I feel there's a lot of different exercises that work well and all bring something different. So I'll alternate from one session to the next.
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you shouldn't do it in direct sequence. treat each side like a different set. do your reps on the left side, wait a minute, then the right.
I found that works best for me. Used to avoid them until I started doing this.
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Thats true I don't wait between arms. I'll try that and it will fix the problem for sure.
lol me either hahah and it never occured to me to just wait a minute lol im definitely gonna do that next workout
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I always saw Mike O'hearn doing
heavy dumbell rows.
Never a barbell row.
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barbell rows all the way. dumbell rows are probably my least favorite exercise
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Blonds or Brunettes?
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Blonds or Brunettes?
def. brunettes. blonds are overrated.
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When your hand position changes the target muscle changes as well … so one arm dumbbell row and bent over rows are not the same and neither can subsidize the other … for a well advanced bbers … both should be included in their training and for a beginner dumbbell row is easier at the early stages till he gets use to the barbell rows.
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bbell rows.
bent at a 30 degree angle. underhand grip.
relatively light weight perfect form
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Blonds or Brunettes?
nothing better than a fine brunette my friend
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Blonds or Brunettes?
whooores
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bbell rows all the way, the best backs have all been built around big rows, dbell and t-bar are ok, but are substitutes to the main exersize
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whooores
Ahhh my favorite color.
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dumbell rows = ego shit, does nothing special for your back
barbel rows = great movement , got to be in every backworkout
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Blonds or Brunettes?
Because of your mental ilness, sometime you say good example. ;)
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Which do you prefer to include for back day and why?
Dumbbell rows combined with t-bar rows. Barbell rows are to stressfull on my lower back. I never liked that hunched over feeling. You can control it better with t-bar rows.
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dumbell rows = ego shit, does nothing special for your back
barbel rows = great movement , got to be in every backworkout
totally disagree, db rows are an awesome rowing movement, you get a way better stretch and a way better contraction with those than with bb rows.
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disagree completely with the remark about db rows being useless.. hell, even emg studies show the db row is a great movement..
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Lat pulldowns (warm-up)
Barbell rows
T-Bar Rows
DB Rows
Deadlifts
crawl out of the gym ;)
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Stupid questions all the time if this or that exercise is better than the other. Just mix it up, be more flexible my friend. One week Db, the next week Bb.....one week undergrip, the next week overgrip. Monotony is the killer of progress.
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Barbell rows done correctly = best back exercise period
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totally disagree, db rows are an awesome rowing movement, you get a way better stretch and a way better contraction with those than with bb rows.
I agree. I like to put my non working arm on the db rack instead of a bench.
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225 x 25 by Matt Kroczaleski, a true animal :D
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if you're not doing deadlifts then do both of them, if you're doing deads then just do db rows.
i dont undrstend what you meen i deadlift like sumbitch and i do dumbel row and bar bell row so i dont know why you wont do both it dont make no sence you sumbitch
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225 x 25 by Matt Kroczaleski, a true animal :D
he's doing 265 for 10 lately. :o
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barbell rows tend to work all the muscle groups of the back more so that bumbell rows. Look at all the supersized bodybuilders with great backs, and you'll see that most of them put strong emphasis on barbell rowing.
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barbell rows tend to work all the muscle groups of the back more so that bumbell rows. Look at all the supersized bodybuilders with great backs, and you'll see that most of them put strong emphasis on barbell rowing.
its almost impossible for a natural or even a juicer for that matter to recover lower back wise from heavy squats, heavy deadlifts AND heavy barbell rows in the same week so barbell rows are overkill if you're doing deadlifts.
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barbell rows tend to work all the muscle groups of the back more so that bumbell rows. Look at all the supersized bodybuilders with great backs, and you'll see that most of them put strong emphasis on barbell rowing.
you do know man these sumbitchs dont know shit this mofo says dont do both i say do both more angels on the musscel these sumbitchs dont know shit that why they look shitlike
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its almost impossible for a natural or even a juicer for that matter to recover lower back wise from heavy squats, heavy deadlifts AND heavy barbell rows in the same week so barbell rows are overkill if you're doing deadlifts.
I squat and dead on the same day. I never understood why people say that squatting tires the lower back. personally i have never felt this.
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its almost impossible for a natural or even a juicer for that matter to recover lower back wise from heavy squats, heavy deadlifts AND heavy barbell rows in the same week so barbell rows are overkill if you're doing deadlifts.
You're right. I don't reguarly do barbell deadlifts. I do like the stiff legged deadlift on leg day though
I wouldn't recommend doing all in the same week. Would murder your back.
Just my opinion
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I squat and dead on the same day. I never understood why people say that squatting tires the lower back. personally i have never felt this.
what i'm saying is that the cumulative effect of heavy squats, deads and bb rows is just too much for most people, so by process of elimination the least important of those 3 has to go, i've tried squatting and pulling on the same day and every time one of them suffers poundage wise.
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You're right. I don't reguarly do barbell deadlifts. I do like the stiff legged deadlift on leg day though
I wouldn't recommend doing all in the same week. Would murder your back.
Just my opinion
exactly, and if i wasn't deadlifting i would ABSOLUTELY say to do barbell rows, they're an EXCELLENT movement.
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I squat and dead on the same day. I never understood why people say that squatting tires the lower back. personally i have never felt this.
damn right i do that to that is way you have to work to many people lift not enouhg weight doing some bullshit light weight small exercise i lift heavy fuckin weight like a fuckin man should these pussy sumbitchs dont
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what i'm saying is that the cumulative effect of heavy squats, deads and bb rows is just too much for most people, so by process of elimination the least important of those 3 has to go, i've tried squatting and pulling on the same day and every time one of them suffers poundage wise.
the weeks i squat and dead 2x i am only rowing once, and vice versa. Not arguing just saying lol
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the weeks i squat and dead 2x i am only rowing once, and vice versa. Not arguing just saying lol
that's cool, maybe you recover from your workouts quicker or more completely than me or others, everyone's different.
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that's cool, maybe you recover from your workouts quicker or more completely than me or others, everyone's different.
correct
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that's cool, maybe you recover from your workouts quicker or more completely than me or others, everyone's different.
lisstin here you got to sleep and eat to recover you must not be doing that if you lift like sumbitch you will recover faster then the other weeker sumbitchs out there
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lisstin here you got to sleep and eat to recover you must not be doing that if you lift like sumbitch you will recover faster then the other weeker sumbitchs out there
hahahaha, i'm starting to like this gimmick, did you get the name from Mark Davis the porn star?
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i will be porn star in my fucking dream haha i got lots of pussy dont worry about me i dont know what you mean gimick you sumbitchss
;D
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;D
that you in your pictre harley ? you look like a sumbitch and your embred brother to sumbitchs
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i will be porn star in my fucking dream haha i got lots of pussy dont worry about me i dont know what you mean gimick you sumbitchss
you callin me a sumbitch? :o
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you callin me a sumbitch? :o
i have not talk to you ever why you want to know if you sumbitch ? you sound like you might want me to call you sumbitch you sumbitch what do you want /