Something to ponder;
You stop eating the night before around 8-9:00, sleep 8 hours or so, get up and do a long slow sustained cardio session with no energy source. Why do "cardio" when you don't have the energy to do it. Stick with HIIT after your weight training, carbs before and post workout.
I think I'm going to go to start doing morning cardio to lose some fat. What should I eat before morning cardio?
theres actually plenty of science to back up morning cardio.
theres actually plenty of science to back up morning cardio.
its very good at burning off adipose...
theres actually plenty of science to back up morning cardio. its very good at burning off adipose... but it also poses some risk as potentially causing the loss of some skeletal muscle...albeit a very limited amount...
a good idea would be a small amoutn of fat free carb free protein, preferably casein, with some fish oil, and a small amount of caffiene, (possibly some EGCG and/or sesamine as well ), about 30 mins prior to cardio. dirnking lots of water will help to prevent muscle loss, as well as to keep fat utilization efficient.
anywhere from 5 minutes to one hour of low intensity cardio can be beneficial. depending on your goals.
off season i ride a stationary bike for maybe 5-10 minutes first thing every morning... i feel this just helps a little bit with insulin sensitivty during my first meal. i dont really think it does TOO much difference. but its something to try.
you still have to achieve a caloric deficit. thus see my comments abovewell do you consider morning cardio part of calories in vs. calories out ? i dont. and if you dont, then you can lose fat on maintanence calories or slightly above...using morning cardio as the fat burner
Show me published case studies.a case study showing what exactly ?
a case study showing what exactly ?
the science is based on the metabolic state you are in immidietly upon rising... and the effcts of morning cardio on insulin sensitivty throughout the day...
i doubt you have ever read any real endrocrinology journals ANYWASY coach.. so please STFU and go back to your celebrity clients who you give clen to and make do sprint and call yoruself genius cuz they arent fat slobs after following your "methods"
well do you consider morning cardio part of calories in vs. calories out ? i dont. and if you dont, then you can lose fat on maintanence calories or slightly above...using morning cardio as the fat burner
Dude, don't meltdown because you can't prove it. You need to hit at least 2-3 seminars per year by experts in the field, attend some conferences by the people who have actually written the studies and had them published. It makes a difference.are you referecning clenbuterol ? ;D
BTW, I don't give or advocate any stimulants to any of my clients especially my athletes.
i consider cardio as a tool to burn calories. doesnt really matter if you burn fat or 'carbs' when your doing cardio. (and no need to make extreme interpretations of this statement)i see
i see
i view cardio as tool to burn fat
i do it when i know i am burning fat
morning and post workout
i dont know how many calories of fat i am burning, but i know i am burning fat
as for my caloric intake, i eat enough to fuel my body, not enough to have any store as fat, and i do so every few hours. (this is when dieting)... so i am eating pretty muc "maintanence calories"...but i just utlize the time periods in my day when i can burn fat to burn fat...
i wouldnt do cardio straight after a workout. thats dumb. after a workout you need to get protein and food in your system. thats the worst time you could do cardio...straight after a workout. (even if you drink a protein shake in between)post workou is arguably THE BEST time you can do cardio.
i wouldnt do cardio straight after a workout. thats dumb. after a workout you need to get protein and food in your system. thats the worst time you could do cardio...straight after a workout. (even if you drink a protein shake in between)
as for what you do and dont do. doesnt interest me at all. ;)
watch out, you are burning....not familiar with the term, huh benz? its okay, english isnt your first language::) ::) ::) SKELETAL MUSCLE ::) ::) ::)
i wouldnt do cardio straight after a workout. thats dumb. after a workout you need to get protein and food in your system. thats the worst time you could do cardio...straight after a workout. (even if you drink a protein shake in between)
as for what you do and dont do. doesnt interest me at all. ;)
post workou is arguably THE BEST time you can do cardio.
theres no reason to rush straight to a protein shake.
... the growth signals from training dont dissapate in 45 mins.. :D
and as long as your no training on AN EMPTY STOMACH (lol !) youll have protein digesting in your intestines while your doing the post workout cardio ... so "muscle wasting" is a total non issue
your article is comparing sprinterrs to marathon runners joe.
both are doing high intensity cardio. of course the sprinter, who is doing shorter duration, is going to hold more muscle.
but compare a sprinter to a bodybuilder.
;)
lol you have no idea what your talking about.
lol you have no idea what your talking about.fat mobilization is going to be highest post training... your blod volume will be higher, your glycogen will be lower, your heart rate will be up, and form your first step on the treadmille youll be mobolizing fat
walking on a treadmill doesnt boost metabolic rate after you get off a treadmill
to you, coach, this is a NEGATIVE
to me, candidizzle, this is a POSITIVE
do you know why sprinting enhances metabolic rate post workout?
because it requires RECOVERY
i would like to save all my RECOOPERATIVE abilities for recovering from my RESISTANCE TRAINING..
not from my cardio
cardio= burn fat
training=enhance metabolism, grow muscle
diet= week to week goal of building muscle or losing fat
Read the above articles. I don't think you did.i dont want my cardio to in any way get in the way of any of my muscle development and growth
Dizzle, did you just say "directly interfere with leg development"?
Good God boy where do you come with this shit??
Dizzle, did you just say "directly interfere with leg development"?hell yeah it will
Good God boy where do you come with this shit??
hell yeah it will
you dont think doing sprints is going to hinder leg development if you are already training quads hams and calves to the point of total exhaustion ?
..if your routine calls for legs to be trained every 6 days... and that is just rigth to allow for full recovery...and all the sudden on day 3 every cycle you are throwing SPRINTS...you will be overtraining your legs... you wont be growing as fast
;)::) ::) ::) burning skeletal muscle ::) ::) ::)
hell yeah it will
you dont think doing sprints is going to hinder leg development if you are already training quads hams and calves to the point of total exhaustion ?
..if your routine calls for legs to be trained every 6 days... and that is just rigth to allow for full recovery...and all the sudden on day 3 every cycle you are throwing SPRINTS...you will be overtraining your legs... you wont be growing as fast
skeletal muscle is having a meltdown :(
skeletal muscle is having a meltdown :(;D
Technically he's correct. Again, what do base this on if it's wrong?
fat mobilization is going to be highest post training... your blod volume will be higher, your glycogen will be lower, your heart rate will be up, and form your first step on the treadmille youll be mobolizing fat
its not ME who has no idea what they are talking about.. SLAVE ;D
after a workout your 'catabolic' until you get protein into you system.so the food i ate all day leading up to my workout, my pre workout meal, and my pre workout shake which is half whey half casein... all of that is gone and vanished and i am "catabolic" as you say Post workout?? :'( :'( :'( what happened to all my food and protein shakes , slave ??? :-[
so the food i ate all day leading up to my workout, my pre workout meal, and my pre workout shake which is half whey half casein... all of that is gone and vanished and i am "catabolic" as you say Post workout?? :'( :'( :'( what happened to all my food and protein shakes , slave ??? :-[
OH i am distraught :-\
but you your will be catabolic until you eat after a workout.;D
;D
ookkkkkaaaaayyyyyyy slave
you do your thing
ill do mine
see you at the finish line ;)
haha picking one part of everything i have written. you have been destroyed as all can see :-*if thats what you think, awesome ! :D
if thats what you think, awesome ! :D
myself, and the rest of the bodybuilding community and ifbb atheletes, we will all do it the way we always have and always will.
you can do it your way and rush off to your whey
i prefer real food.switching gears from cardio to nutrition...
back to morning cardio: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
no training increases fat oxidation over a 24 hour period compared to a 'rest day'. what matters at the end is energi in vs energy out (not saying that its all that matters, as some fundamentalists will think). if you use more carbs during the activity you will use more fat the rest of the day. if you use more fat during the activity the fatburning will decrease the rest of the day.
cardio in the fasted state will increase fatburning during the activity, but in such cases it will decrease later so that the fat oxidation over a 24 hour period is equal to what it would have been if the activity was done postprandially. (after eating)
slave.... cardio = burns fat , food = builds muscle... dont eat so much that any of it contributes to adipose, but eat enought o grow on... and consistantly make use of the times of day when fat burning is FAT burning, not FOOD burning, and you will get leaner leaner leaner while growing bigger bigger bigger
;)
pseudo bs as i have proved. your not gonna grow and get leaner at the same time (unless your a total newbie and or very fat...and even then it will be for just a short period of time....OR if your on drugs) altho its physicologically possible. besides i was discussing morning cardio but you seem to like to change subjects because you have been proven wrong.one more time
most people who try to do both will end up nowhere.
one more time
eat enough to grow, dont eat enough to contribute to fat stores
do cardio when its fat burning, not FOOD burning
and then your growing, and getting leaner
QUITE simple
or, eat to grow, eat slightly more than what you can use, contribute a small amount to fat stores every meal
then do cardio when its fat burning, not food burning, and now your growing BIG TIME, but remaining the same bf%
;)
ummmmm actuially, "YES"
your gay ass study doesnt address this issue at all.
and oh yea, where did you get that study ? did you do it yourself? haha. no i guarantee you got that off "GOOGLE"... ;D.. and you always trying to tell ME i am ssome kind og "google"er.. ;D ;D ;D
slave its most obvious you got zero experience real world in any of this
why dont you go find the guy in your gym with the best physique and as him to explain this stuff to you..
OKAY, even simpler for you
i know you like the whole non sense of 'calories in verse calories out".. so ill make this super easy
you base metabolic rate is 3k cal per day. with weight lifting ncluding its 35k cal per day
on a trainign day you eat 4k cals. that means you have stored 500 cals as body fat.
now on that same day, before your day started, you got up and took a 45 minute walk that burnt off 200 calories. since it was first thing in the morning,and you hadnt eaten, it was 200 cals of body fat.
after weightlifting that day, you took another 45 miinute walk, and this time it burnt 400 cal, since it was post training and your heart rate was up and glycogen was depleted and you had caffiene in your system. since it was post training, all the 400 cals came from body fat.
so on this day, although at you 6 meals you had a combined fat storeage of 500 cals, you also burnt off 600 cals of body fat by walking two times 45 minutes each, at times of the day where it didnt effect recovery didnt effect food intake didnt effect base metabolism...all it did was mobilize body fat.
so, at the end of this day you stored 500 calories as body fat, and you burnt off 600 calories as body fat.
end of the day = 100 calories body fat defecit.
you lost bod fat!
BUT, since you were over eating at every meal, you were growing muscle all day long as well.
so you gained muscle, but lost fat
not at the same time ! but within the same day.
haha.
okay slave.
i said it once i say it again
you do your thing
ill do mine
see you at the finish line
Slaveboy,
How about we do this. You get yourself or someone you train and I'll do the same. We do a three month study, you get your experts and I will get mine 2 which have written published case studies in various sports and med journals. You can set the bet, of course me be willing to bet you're wrong. After over 20 years working with athletes and bodybuilders, I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
Not even commonsense should tell you long sustained cardio you will lose mass. (Take the example of the sprinter vs. the Marathon or endurance athlete).
I prefer sex for morning cardio.
That is all i have to add.
8)
Do you alternate hands?
If time is a constraint, combining cardio with weights in one session can be utilised.
Personally speaking i acheived better results by doing cardio at intervals during my weights workout.
5 mins fast running on a treadmill between exercises.
Lets say im performing 6 exercises thats 25 mins of cardio spliced in the workout.
Id much rather do this than tack on 25 mins AFTER the whole workout where time is at a premium in regards to shuttling carbs and proteins in to muscles.
Of course i may be wrong.