29 yr old male 5'11 275 approx 25-30% bf
Steady state and HIIT Cardio 7 days/wk
Weight train 3 day split
Post workout standard protein shake
Animal pak multi in morning
Need to be 200 by jan 1 2009
Supplement ECA or just Clen?
if your sensitive to simulants id say clen, but eca is more potent a fat burner and its legal as well; so eca is the better choice but alot of people cant handle the stimulant effects of itHow is eca legal if ephedrine is illegal? ECA isnt reealy ECA w/o ephedrine.
How is eca legal if ephedrine is illegal? ECA isnt reealy ECA w/o ephedrine.
thinking about buying vasopro, got my bronkaid and it didnt do sh*t. is vasapro from max pro still availible?
How much were you taking? Each pill contains 25 mlg of Ephedrine Hydrochloride.i havent taken ephedrine in a while, i ran out. but i got my bronkaid last night and took two pills this morning = 50 mgs and dont feel a thing. was thinking about trashing them (all three boxes, 120 pills) and buying vasopro instead if its still availible. why doesnt the bronk work??
How is eca legal if ephedrine is illegal? ECA isnt reealy ECA w/o ephedrine.bronkaid is as real as it comes dude. vasop pro wont do anything that bronkaid doesnt. bronkaid is made by PFIZER !!!
thinking about buying vasopro, got my bronkaid and it didnt do sh*t. is vasapro from max pro still availible?
I think ECA was instrumental in getting me down from 365 (well, that and removing carbs from diet), I definitely felt temp go up when doing 3x a day. Was just curious if clen was better. Currently stacking 1 baby asp, 1 no-doz and 1 bronk.try adding more aspirin and throw in some egcg and maybe some yohimbine.. all that works together with synergy
bronkaid is as real as it comes dude. vasop pro wont do anything that bronkaid doesnt. bronkaid is made by PFIZER !!!I hear you cand, but previously when i took ephedrine it would get me "up". i figured the break i took would only enhance the effect. im very familiar with ephedrine products and the bronk for whatever reason didnt take. i honestly got more awake from the two 20 oz. diet dews i drank. thanks for the help, much appreciated.
some people dont get the stimulant effects from ehpedrine. i dont. i can take 100mg of ANY kind of ephedrine and i dont get any jitters or any thing.
just different effects for diffferent people.
but if you want to shell out the extra cash for vasop pro, yeah its still available at most max muscles
I hear you cand, but previously when i took ephedrine it would get me "up". i figured the break i took would only enhance the effect. im very familiar with ephedrine products and the bronk for whatever reason didnt take. i honestly got more awake from the two 20 oz. diet dews i drank. thanks for the help, much appreciated.lol ! mountain dews are serious bro; i swear to god they lie about their caffiene content. one of those 12 ounce canz supposed to be like 50mg caffiene ? bullshit ! i take 200mg caffiene tab pre training and it doesnt do anything to me but wake me up, and those diet mountain dews get me all hyper off just one !
At your BF% i wouldn't worry about either IMO.
Once you get to a decent BF%(10-12%), then i would worry about using ECA just to get the most benefit out of it.
You have 6 months, i would use the ECA the final 2 months.
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lol ! mountain dews are serious bro; i swear to god they lie about their caffiene content. one of those 12 ounce canz supposed to be like 50mg caffiene ? bullshit ! i take 200mg caffiene tab pre training and it doesnt do anything to me but wake me up, and those diet mountain dews get me all hyper off just one !I drink 4 of those a day.. today after the bronkaid, i had the (2) 20oz diet dews and a 20oz of diet pepsi max. diet dews are the sh*t. way better than coffee for me.
I drink 4 of those a day.. today after the bronkaid, i had the (2) 20oz diet dews and a 20oz of diet pepsi max. diet dews are the sh*t. way better than coffee for me.
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Concur 100%
Keep doing what you're doing and if by Halloween you still have questions, ask then.
Meanwhile, what's the diet look like?
At your BF% i wouldn't worry about either IMO.
Once you get to a decent BF%(10-12%), then i would worry about using ECA just to get the most benefit out of it.
You have 6 months, i would use the ECA the final 2 months.
I wouldn't touch Clen personally...
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Thanks for all the responses. Switching up the stack a bit on some of your advices.
Animal Multi
DHA/EHA
Green Tea Extract
Yohimbine EX
Thoughts?
L-Tyrosine and L-Carnitine with this stack.
L-Carnitine is a must with Yohimbine.
eca is more potent a fat burner
bronkaid is made by PFIZER !!!
try adding more aspirin and throw in some egcg and maybe some yohimbine.. all that works together with synergy
as for clen... its not as POTENT a fat burner, because its beta-2 specific, where ephedrine is a shotgun blast at all three beta ... BUT..clen DOES have a 36 hour half life, so its workig on you all day and all night hwile you sleep as wel. which helps.
no, it definitely isn't, all it does it suppress your appetite and speed up your metabolism a little biteca is definitely a more potent fat burner than clenbuterol.
eca is definitely a more potent fat burner than clenbuterol.
it depends on how you define "potent"yes, and i addressed that already. but on a "minute to minute" scale, which one helps burn fat at a quicker rate? ephedrine, no doubt. and it does so through more than just the one pathway, through several. and it takes less time to "accumulate" to ephedrine that it does to clen.
clen has a long half life and burns fat around the clock. eca does not
2 questions...Good question. It's been asked before. I don't think I've seen anything scientific regarding one over the other.
i see that the bronkaid contains ephedrine sulfate not ephedrine hcl. is the hcl form better for fat burning or is it pretty much the same?
why add the asprin to the mix? i have read it wasnt really necassary.It's not necessary for fat burning purposes according to studies I've seen.
yes, and i addressed that already. but on a "minute to minute" scale, which one helps burn fat at a quicker rate? ephedrine, no doubt. and it does so through more than just the one pathway, through several. and it takes less time to "accumulate" to ephedrine that it does to clen.
Good question. It's been asked before. I don't think I've seen anything scientific regarding one over the other.
It's not necessary for fat burning purposes according to studies I've seen.
I've heard and read that efedrin sulfate is much more toxic and impure than efedrin hcl. I'm not sure whether this is true or not, but i have used both and i think that hcl is much better or at least much more potent. Low carbs, cardio and eca will melt the the fat or if it doesnt something is really wrong with you...
I'm taking ECA now and feel like I'm gonna have a heart attack :(
I'm taking ECA now and feel like I'm gonna have a heart attack :(
what kind of ephedrine are you taking? brand?
70 bucks for 200 tabs/ 25mg ephedrine hcl.....is that a decent price compared to some of the other brands?
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