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Title: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 09, 2008, 06:01:04 AM
I think that everything everyone is seeing on television about the natural "ly enhanced" disaster in New Orleans is creating a lot of self-introspection here in the United States. People are really thinking about how this could have happened here, and more importantly, they are wondering, Can this happen to me?

Most people here in America think that they are free and can choose to do what they want, when they want. I was raised, imprinted, and really, indoctrinated into the American way of life. In school and by American society, I was raised to think that I was free and that America is the land of opportunity, where everyone could do everything that he or she wanted.

Everyone was told that anyone could grow up to be president of the United States, and this was evidenced by George Washington who was in the army, or Abraham Linclon who grew up in a log cabin. Humble beginnings of all our touted great leaders was the norm. Christopher Columbus, who everybody knows discovered America, was another poor person with a dream who went to the royalty of Europe, received funding and went on to discover the greatest country that ever existed.

I believed in the American way and the American dream. I believed that if I wanted to be president of the US, I could be. I believed that Christopher Columbus really discovered America, and I believed that the leaders of this country really cared about me and all the other people out there like me.

As I got older and heard other people talking, and read books outside of school, I began to feel really betrayed about what I had learned versus what I was hearing and reading. I felt betrayed when I read that maybe Christopher Columbus wasn’t the discoverer of America, and that maybe the Vikings had been here long before then.

As a child, I didn’t know that Japanese-American citizens were put in concentration camps right here in the US during the war. I didn’t know that they lost everything and eventually had to start their lives over again.

I didn’t know that every American President was related to English royalty except for one or two—who probably have some other deep connection that has not yet been revealed, although I did wonder how the ordinary person could run for president and pay for all the campaigning that I saw going on.

I thought I could be anything I wanted and go anywhere I wanted. After all, I was raised in the land of the free!

As I went into adulthood, I also read more and more about the true controllers of this country, and wondered who that might be and how they might have gained such control.
I still didn’t “get it” that it was a covert plot behind all that was so eloquently portrayed to the American people.
While I knew that there was a lot I didn’t know politically, I, like most Americans, assumed that it was for my own good—that the government had a right to keep its secrets to protect the general population.

I can remember when Bill Clinton was campaigning for President, and I had a lot of hope still, as I felt we needed a youthful, strong leader that really cared about the people. I felt he was the hope of our future, as did many other Americans. But, like the other presidents before him, once elected, all his promises seemed empty and he seemed like he was putting on a show without ever really doing anything. As an American, I really began to get discouraged and feel hopeless about the leadership of our country.

I love the America that I was brought up to believe existed. I love the fact that I have the right to free speech, that I can be anyone that I want to be, do anything that I want to do so long as it harms no one else. I love that I can have open discussions on any subject and can economically strive to be on the top. I love the ideals and principles upon which I was told the country was founded.

Now, as the years have passed, I have found the other side of what I was told—the part of America that hides in the dark. I have studied and researched our founding fathers, and their Masonic Heritage. I myself am the descendent of Masons, and was in Job’s Daughters for several years as a teenager, which is their youth organization for young girls. I was proud of my Masonic heritage, until I began to study the Masonic organizations in depth.

I also researched the founding fathers and learned that these people who I perceived to have founded this country to establish freedom for the ordinary person really founded it so they could gain wealth and control over the alcohol, opium, and slave industries. I learned that there were many white slaves as well as black slaves, but they don’t tell you that here in the American schools.  I learned that blacks in Africa sold blacks to other blacks as well as to whites. I learned that there were even black slave owners here in America, although of course not in large numbers.

I learned that America was not founded upon freedom of religious and individual rights, but freedom of commerce for  a select few. And when one thinks about it, if this country was founded by and is still run by families that were involved in alcohol, opium and slave trades, then what can one really expect if this is the energy that founded and propelled this country forward?

How can the powers that be control this population? I’d like to see them live for  a year as a family of four lives with a typical income stream. They couldn’t do it. They give tiny minimum wage raises and then laud themselves as saints and saviors to the all the “little people” out there.

Schools still educate children to work for others. Entrepreneurship is not valued. I will never get my books published by any large publishing house. Hollywood will not do our story. Only those who serve the overall agenda of the powers-that-be will be “allowed” into the public domain.

Every echelon of society is “watched” from the top down, guided, probed, and studied for anyone who is outside the norm. They will take your information and then chew you up and spit you out. Look at all the murders of scientists, for example, through the years. Once the powers have what they want, and they are done with you, then you are gone.
The same for media icons—look at Martha Stewart and even Michael Jackson. It doesn’t matter what you think of them. Merely observe their process and you can learn about the powers that be in the comfort of your own home.

Many people think that money is power. You are wrong. Knowledge is power. That is what the power that be do, they gather knowledge. They learn from the Amazon Jungle and then they burn it down. They study with the indigenous peoples, and then they destroy them. They systematically suck up the knowledge of the world and get rid of their sources when they are done, feeding little information streams to the public, bit by bit, so that the public thinks that they are “learning.”

The powers that be are brilliant long-term global planners. While you are wondering about your life and how you can pay your bills next month, they are systematically encircling us and squeezing us into one global mind-pattern for the purpose of control.

They start with the young, who they imprint at the earliest of ages, and eliminate the older people who have the history, and the limit the exposure of printed materials to only those that they want distributed. They tie up our monetary systems and our abilities to move forward.

When we were in Italy a couple of years ago, driving through that country, I heard the “tone” of war, and at that moment I understood, and I saw that once this planet is under control the plan for is to turn this now global society into a military society designed to fight and conquer other planets and other races. I can’t prove this to you, nor do I want to. I want you to make your own conclusions and discover your own information.

These are the final days of civilization as we know it here in America. We now have 7,000 Mexican troops on our soil, for the first time since 1846. We are being squeezed from the south, next will come the earthquakes and volcanoes in the west, followed by destruction of the East Coast. The Canadian Government is already putting pressure on Americans from the North.

This is the time for those of us who are Americans, and who want to remain in the America of our hopes, dreams, and ideals, to work like there is no tomorrow on our mind-patterns that allow us to remain free. I want to remain proud to be an America. I want those ideals that were touted to me as a child, to truly exist here, on all levels, not just in my mind.

This is truly a time of self-reflection for all Americans, and this is a time of learning for all people around the world. Freedom must exist first in your mind and the outer world will reflect this for you. This is a universal law that you can bring and establish right here in the United States as well as globally.


- Janet Swerdlow

Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Brutal_1 on July 09, 2008, 06:07:18 AM
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Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on July 09, 2008, 06:14:00 AM
Bush has turned america into one hot steaming pile of shit.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 09, 2008, 06:22:45 AM
Bush has turned america into one hot steaming pile of shit.
The problem started when America was at infancy....it's also hard to realize you are manipulated and mind controlled when EVERYTHING  around you without exception IS  mind kontrol and deception.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 09, 2008, 07:04:03 AM
Belief Systems Shattered ...
The Elusive Search For "Happiness"

05/09/05

 

The search for "happiness" seems to be the pervading theme underlying everything that almost everyone does. How many times have you said or thought, "I could be happy 'if'" . . Or, "I will be happy 'when'. . . "

How many ways have you filled in the rest of the sentence? "I could be happy if/I will be happy when...I have a new car, a different job, my boss retires, my relationship changes, I lose weight, make more money, etc., etc. " How many ways and times have you completed these types of sentences?

How many times have you achieved one of the above? Were you happy for a while, and then you started thinking about the next way in which you could fill in the sentence?
At some point in time, you may finally realize that "happiness" is an elusive term. You may have the feeling of happiness from time to time from outside input, but to sustain that emotion "forever" most likely is not going to happen.

For one thing, "happiness" must be fulfilled from whatever exists inside of yourself, rather than from an outside source. Trying to fill yourself with "happiness" from an outside source is the equivalent of trying to fulfill your emotional needs by eating chocolate cake. They both give you an immediate sense of fulfillment, but eventually the moment is going to pass.

This is what forces you to continue your search. When you get that new car, you think of something else that will make you even happier. Or, maybe the payments create distress, or it has mechanical issues, or you wish that you would have gotten a different make, model, color, accessories, etc. The circle starts over again. As long as you try to fulfill your emotional requirements from any outside source, you will eventually become disillusioned, be it person, place, or thing.

"Happiness" is a relative term. When you look around, you "should" be able to state numerous reasons why you "should" be "happy," but are you? Think of what other people do not have compared to yourself. Maybe you do not care for your job, but at least you have one. Somewhere, there is some person out there wishing for a job. Regardless of how menial or thankless you consider your position, someone, somewhere, would be "happy" for the opportunity to be in your place.

Many people place their elusive search for happiness on attaining a specific goal, or "dream." Do you think that once you attain your dream you will be happy? How long have you had your dream? Have you allowed your dream to change with you, or has your
dream remained a constant?

"Happiness" is only one emotion within the circle of life. There are a variety of emotions that comprise your totality. "Happiness" is only one small part. If you focus on only one part, even when it is developed inside of yourself, it will be out of balance with your other emotional parts.

For example, if fear is not in balance, you may "fear" that you will lose your happiness. If "anger" is not in balance your temper may destroy your happiness. Everything must be in proper alignment for the totality of you to exist in any kind or harmony.

Happiness is an elusive term for most people because they do not have a clue about maintaining the whole person. Happiness by itself and as generally defined in the linear world is never going to happen.

Recognize that happiness is simply part of the whole. Learn to enjoy the richness of every experience, cultivating all parts of self in such a manner that your totality is fulfilled in a deep and satisfying way. Appreciate every experience for the wealth of knowledge that each one holds, both positive and negative. You will soon realize that the dream of what you once sought was only an illusion. Now, you can replace your old dream of finding "happiness" with a new dream that evolves in the same way as you.
Janet Swerdlow
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: shootfighter1 on July 09, 2008, 07:19:27 AM
Its not just Bush, America has been changing in a negative way for the past 20 yrs IMO.
Look at the major breakdown in families, change in pop culture (Brittany Spears/Paris,etc), general attitudes of selfishness & entitlement, greater disrespect from youth tolerated, the shrinking middle class, outsourcing jobs, government spending & borrowing, lack of support for small business (which this country was built on), the acceptance of illegal immigrants without reforming legal immigration to make it easier for people that really want to be a part of America and contribute to become citizens.  Lots of bad stuff happening.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Moosejay on July 09, 2008, 07:54:19 AM
Its not just Bush, America has been changing in a negative way for the past 20 yrs IMO.
Look at the major breakdown in families, change in pop culture (Brittany Spears/Paris,etc), general attitudes of selfishness & entitlement, greater disrespect from youth tolerated, the shrinking middle class, outsourcing jobs, government spending & borrowing, lack of support for small business (which this country was built on), the acceptance of illegal immigrants without reforming legal immigration to make it easier for people that really want to be a part of America and contribute to become citizens.  Lots of bad stuff happening.

Pleanty of good stuff happening, too, but liberals don't see that
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: shootfighter1 on July 09, 2008, 08:52:59 AM
There is moosejay but its not just a repub vs democrat fight anymore.  Lots of the issues I posted above are party blind.  We also have gotten away from our constitution.  Both dems and republicans are power hungry and have abused gov power, programs, spending and borrowing...which is crushing us economically.  No one is doing anything about the fallen value of the dollar.
Neither Barack or McCain are going to make the changes necessary to put the gov back in check.  Barack wants a bigger gov with more control, programs and higher taxes.  That is the wrong direction for the country.  McCain is going to continue excessive military spending.  Pick your poison.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Mars on July 09, 2008, 08:54:20 AM
at least quote the text, i though sevaste was actually talking about himself the first lines.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: jaejonna on July 09, 2008, 08:57:41 AM
at least quote the text, i though sevaste was actually talking about himself the first lines.
hahah he is quite the observer .....
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: El_Pajero on July 09, 2008, 09:00:09 AM
Well, what can I say?
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 09, 2008, 09:07:57 AM
at least quote the text, i though sevaste was actually talking about himself the first lines.
the author's name is bellow the text ...any retard can spot it...even you
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Mars on July 09, 2008, 09:09:39 AM
i really thought it was your story Sevaste, but i thought hey how can that. hes not american but he lives in romania.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 09, 2008, 09:15:17 AM
i really thought it was your story Sevaste, but i thought hey how can that. hes not american but he lives in romania.
I was american...for 10 years... I live in Romania now.

Readthat article and MAYBE you will start to open your eyes and spring out of your misery . Reading your posts makes you seem an insecure person.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: El_Pajero on July 09, 2008, 09:17:31 AM
I was american...for 10 years... I live in Romania now.

Readthat article and MAYBE you will start to open your eyes and spring out of your misery . Reading your posts makes you seem an insecure person.

Why would anyone move from the US to Romania? Nobody is that stupid. It are usually the Romanian young girls who move to the US to become sexslave of older American men.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Dballn247 on July 09, 2008, 09:18:05 AM
I'm not reading all of that.  I like my propaganda spoon fed to me.  Gayer than moving out of the US.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 09, 2008, 09:19:26 AM
Why would anyone move from the US to Romania? Nobody is that stupid. It are usually the Romanian young girls who move to the US to become sexslave of older American men.
I was born in Romania..I decided to stay here during a vacation in 2005.

It's sad to say it but I wouldn't wanna be in US starting this summer/fall
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 09, 2008, 09:21:14 AM
I'm not reading all of that.  I like my propaganda spoon fed to me.  Gayer than moving out of the US.
It's not propaganda . It's the sad reality .

You should read my other post thoroughly " Thought you should know... "

When you are done reading all, please post your thoughts...
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Mark Kerr on July 09, 2008, 09:48:12 AM
Its not just Bush, America has been changing in a negative way for the past 20 yrs IMO.
Look at the major breakdown in families, change in pop culture (Brittany Spears/Paris,etc), general attitudes of selfishness & entitlement, greater disrespect from youth tolerated, the shrinking middle class, outsourcing jobs, government spending & borrowing, lack of support for small business (which this country was built on), the acceptance of illegal immigrants without reforming legal immigration to make it easier for people that really want to be a part of America and contribute to become citizens.  Lots of bad stuff happening.

Good post.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Zaphod on July 09, 2008, 10:33:29 AM
We're doing just fine. People have just become soft and weak. Remember the great depression, fuck tards? The 70's?

Fuckin' whiners....
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Matt C on July 09, 2008, 11:04:14 AM
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Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: SAMSON123 on July 09, 2008, 11:51:36 AM
I think that everything everyone is seeing on television about the natural "ly enhanced" disaster in New Orleans is creating a lot of self-introspection here in the United States. People are really thinking about how this could have happened here, and more importantly, they are wondering, Can this happen to me?

Most people here in America think that they are free and can choose to do what they want, when they want. I was raised, imprinted, and really, indoctrinated into the American way of life. In school and by American society, I was raised to think that I was free and that America is the land of opportunity, where everyone could do everything that he or she wanted.

Everyone was told that anyone could grow up to be president of the United States, and this was evidenced by George Washington who was in the army, or Abraham Linclon who grew up in a log cabin. Humble beginnings of all our touted great leaders was the norm. Christopher Columbus, who everybody knows discovered America, was another poor person with a dream who went to the royalty of Europe, received funding and went on to discover the greatest country that ever existed.

I believed in the American way and the American dream. I believed that if I wanted to be president of the US, I could be. I believed that Christopher Columbus really discovered America, and I believed that the leaders of this country really cared about me and all the other people out there like me.

As I got older and heard other people talking, and read books outside of school, I began to feel really betrayed about what I had learned versus what I was hearing and reading. I felt betrayed when I read that maybe Christopher Columbus wasn’t the discoverer of America, and that maybe the Vikings had been here long before then.

As a child, I didn’t know that Japanese-American citizens were put in concentration camps right here in the US during the war. I didn’t know that they lost everything and eventually had to start their lives over again.

I didn’t know that every American President was related to English royalty except for one or two—who probably have some other deep connection that has not yet been revealed, although I did wonder how the ordinary person could run for president and pay for all the campaigning that I saw going on.

I thought I could be anything I wanted and go anywhere I wanted. After all, I was raised in the land of the free!

As I went into adulthood, I also read more and more about the true controllers of this country, and wondered who that might be and how they might have gained such control.
I still didn’t “get it” that it was a covert plot behind all that was so eloquently portrayed to the American people.
While I knew that there was a lot I didn’t know politically, I, like most Americans, assumed that it was for my own good—that the government had a right to keep its secrets to protect the general population.

I can remember when Bill Clinton was campaigning for President, and I had a lot of hope still, as I felt we needed a youthful, strong leader that really cared about the people. I felt he was the hope of our future, as did many other Americans. But, like the other presidents before him, once elected, all his promises seemed empty and he seemed like he was putting on a show without ever really doing anything. As an American, I really began to get discouraged and feel hopeless about the leadership of our country.

I love the America that I was brought up to believe existed. I love the fact that I have the right to free speech, that I can be anyone that I want to be, do anything that I want to do so long as it harms no one else. I love that I can have open discussions on any subject and can economically strive to be on the top. I love the ideals and principles upon which I was told the country was founded.

Now, as the years have passed, I have found the other side of what I was told—the part of America that hides in the dark. I have studied and researched our founding fathers, and their Masonic Heritage. I myself am the descendent of Masons, and was in Job’s Daughters for several years as a teenager, which is their youth organization for young girls. I was proud of my Masonic heritage, until I began to study the Masonic organizations in depth.

I also researched the founding fathers and learned that these people who I perceived to have founded this country to establish freedom for the ordinary person really founded it so they could gain wealth and control over the alcohol, opium, and slave industries. I learned that there were many white slaves as well as black slaves, but they don’t tell you that here in the American schools.  I learned that blacks in Africa sold blacks to other blacks as well as to whites. I learned that there were even black slave owners here in America, although of course not in large numbers.

I learned that America was not founded upon freedom of religious and individual rights, but freedom of commerce for  a select few. And when one thinks about it, if this country was founded by and is still run by families that were involved in alcohol, opium and slave trades, then what can one really expect if this is the energy that founded and propelled this country forward?

How can the powers that be control this population? I’d like to see them live for  a year as a family of four lives with a typical income stream. They couldn’t do it. They give tiny minimum wage raises and then laud themselves as saints and saviors to the all the “little people” out there.

Schools still educate children to work for others. Entrepreneurship is not valued. I will never get my books published by any large publishing house. Hollywood will not do our story. Only those who serve the overall agenda of the powers-that-be will be “allowed” into the public domain.

Every echelon of society is “watched” from the top down, guided, probed, and studied for anyone who is outside the norm. They will take your information and then chew you up and spit you out. Look at all the murders of scientists, for example, through the years. Once the powers have what they want, and they are done with you, then you are gone.
The same for media icons—look at Martha Stewart and even Michael Jackson. It doesn’t matter what you think of them. Merely observe their process and you can learn about the powers that be in the comfort of your own home.

Many people think that money is power. You are wrong. Knowledge is power. That is what the power that be do, they gather knowledge. They learn from the Amazon Jungle and then they burn it down. They study with the indigenous peoples, and then they destroy them. They systematically suck up the knowledge of the world and get rid of their sources when they are done, feeding little information streams to the public, bit by bit, so that the public thinks that they are “learning.”

The powers that be are brilliant long-term global planners. While you are wondering about your life and how you can pay your bills next month, they are systematically encircling us and squeezing us into one global mind-pattern for the purpose of control.

They start with the young, who they imprint at the earliest of ages, and eliminate the older people who have the history, and the limit the exposure of printed materials to only those that they want distributed. They tie up our monetary systems and our abilities to move forward.

When we were in Italy a couple of years ago, driving through that country, I heard the “tone” of war, and at that moment I understood, and I saw that once this planet is under control the plan for is to turn this now global society into a military society designed to fight and conquer other planets and other races. I can’t prove this to you, nor do I want to. I want you to make your own conclusions and discover your own information.

These are the final days of civilization as we know it here in America. We now have 7,000 Mexican troops on our soil, for the first time since 1846. We are being squeezed from the south, next will come the earthquakes and volcanoes in the west, followed by destruction of the East Coast. The Canadian Government is already putting pressure on Americans from the North.

This is the time for those of us who are Americans, and who want to remain in the America of our hopes, dreams, and ideals, to work like there is no tomorrow on our mind-patterns that allow us to remain free. I want to remain proud to be an America. I want those ideals that were touted to me as a child, to truly exist here, on all levels, not just in my mind.

This is truly a time of self-reflection for all Americans, and this is a time of learning for all people around the world. Freedom must exist first in your mind and the outer world will reflect this for you. This is a universal law that you can bring and establish right here in the United States as well as globally.


- Janet Swerdlow



IF ONLY THE NATIVE PEOPLE HAD HOMELAND SECURITY!!!!...THINGS WOULD BE SO DIFFERENT...
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 09, 2008, 11:59:42 AM
We're doing just fine. People have just become soft and weak. Remember the great depression, fuck tards? The 70's?

Fuckin' whiners....

Ha Ha. That just about sums it up perfectly.

Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: flagadajones on July 09, 2008, 12:01:30 PM
America is the best of the Western world,even if it has its losers, like most civilizations... it still has what it takes to rule for some time...
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: GigantorX on July 09, 2008, 12:05:00 PM
Good post.

Hey! We need those illegal immigrants to flood in here and get their fake SS numbers and start to pay into the Social Security fund as well as Medicare and Medicaid. Why do you think they are just let in, how many is it now, 20 million? Without them our government would have to actually show some foresight and solid leadership skills and reform our disastrous entitlement system that will most likely cause our government to declare insolvency 30 years from now. Shit, 2/3rds of our FEDERAL budget is sucked up by those very same entitlement programs which are nothing more than Pyramid Schemes. Christ, Medicare/Medicaid was started by LBJ in the 60's and it is already heading from a monumental wreck. That's 2/3rds of 3.2 Trillion dollars that Congress approved for this years budget. That's 2/3rds that is set in stone, can't touch it because it is Election Year Radioactive Material.

Fucking Brilliant.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 09, 2008, 12:17:18 PM
I've heard good things about Romania
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Azn Muscle on July 09, 2008, 12:56:32 PM
Is there something Sevastase? ::)
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Brutal_1 on July 09, 2008, 04:29:09 PM
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Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: tommywishbone on July 09, 2008, 04:54:29 PM
"Land of the Free."   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

We have 2,375,000 people in our prisons. The highest percentage of citizens in ANY countries history. EVER! 1-out-of-every-100 Americans is in jail, in prison or on parole.

Land of the free...  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Fury on July 09, 2008, 04:56:54 PM
"Land of the Free."   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

We have 2,375,000 people in our prisons. The highest percentage of citizens in ANY countries history. EVER! 1-out-of-every-100 Americans is in jail, in prison or on parole.

Land of the free...  ;D ;D

Interestingly enough blacks make up the majority of the people in our prison system, despite only comprising 30 million or so of our 300 million population. Very interesting.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Zaphod on July 09, 2008, 05:06:51 PM
"Land of the Free."   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

We have 2,375,000 people in our prisons. The highest percentage of citizens in ANY countries history. EVER! 1-out-of-every-100 Americans is in jail, in prison or on parole.

Land of the free...  ;D ;D

People aren't "free" to sell crack and pimp out their ladies.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Buffgeek on July 09, 2008, 05:14:19 PM
Interestingly enough blacks make up the majority of the people in our prison system, despite only comprising 30 million or so of our 300 million population. Very interesting.

41% of the prison population is made up 12% (think that is roughly the % of black population) population.

Def out of whack. In large part because of a serious lack of fathers/father figures that stick around and act as role models. Its not just a black issue though Its all over. I see the same thing on the rez so often.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Brutal_1 on July 09, 2008, 05:17:39 PM
41% of the prison population is made up 12% (think that is roughly the % of black population) population.

Def out of whack. In large part because of a serious lack of fathers/father figures that stick around and act as role models. Its not just a black issue though Its all over. I see the same thing on the rez so often.

As correct as you might be, my friend...posts like this don't go around these parts  :-\
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: HTexan on July 09, 2008, 05:20:26 PM
America still is the shit, haters 8)
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: stormshadow on July 09, 2008, 08:08:26 PM
Sevastase,

I agree with many of those points, and it is awesome to see people turning their brains on and being able to accept the fact that their entire lives have been a lie.

I do feel however, that Jefferson was sincere in wanting the people to have their own land, grow their own food, and be free.  At that time he consistently spoke against the National Bank.  He wrote Washington in 1791 to tell him his objections.

I don't for one second question Washington's Loyalty to the Crown.  There is a great quote that you can dig up on atgpress.com

But I also have to wonder about all of this history we read off the internet.  Have you verified it?  Have I see the original drafts of these letters?  It makes it difficult to even know if original sources are true.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Moosejay on July 09, 2008, 08:16:28 PM
We're doing just fine. People have just become soft and weak. Remember the great depression, fuck tards? The 70's?

Fuckin' whiners....

Yes.

Very, very weak.

Its like Utopia here compared to those days.

How you say...?

"Harden The Fuck Up."
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 09, 2008, 08:19:16 PM
41% of the prison population is made up 12% (think that is roughly the % of black population) population.

Def out of whack. In large part because of a serious lack of fathers/father figures that stick around and act as role models. Its not just a black issue though Its all over. I see the same thing on the rez so often.

hahaha  ::)

Or it could be a shitty culture or them just growing to be animals regardless  ;)
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 09, 2008, 11:25:13 PM
Sevastase,

I agree with many of those points, and it is awesome to see people turning their brains on and being able to accept the fact that their entire lives have been a lie.

I do feel however, that Jefferson was sincere in wanting the people to have their own land, grow their own food, and be free.  At that time he consistently spoke against the National Bank.  He wrote Washington in 1791 to tell him his objections.

I don't for one second question Washington's Loyalty to the Crown.  There is a great quote that you can dig up on atgpress.com

But I also have to wonder about all of this history we read off the internet.  Have you verified it?  Have I see the original drafts of these letters?  It makes it difficult to even know if original sources are true.
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 09, 2008, 11:39:49 PM
Here is a quote from Conversations With Research Scientist Initiates: Brain and Technology Update ©1995-1997 Leading Edge International Research Group

http://www.trufax.org/convers/conv4.html

Therefore, 1995 will be the year where massive doses of electronic mind control, programming, thought intrusion and brain/biogenetic manipulations will commence in grand scale. These projects are no longer experimental. They are fully operational, for the “field testing” is over! The whole arsenal of frequencies will be unloaded on the USA, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and Mexico as part of Stage 1 of the First Protocol, (to include) Woodpecker, Buzzsaw, Videodrome, Subliminals29, Sonic Pulses, Optical Holograms, Visions, Voices and strange Psychokinetic phenomena. Beware of TV’s, computers, movies, radios and phones! Also books, magazines, newspapers, printed advertisements and posters will also contain the encrypted hidden subliminal holograms. Ladies and gentlemen, the Gestalt of the video movie “They Live” is here now -- 1995! ( dead silence ) Any questions?


Elizabeth the II is not human. el-lizard-beth is a human reptilian hibrid we call a shapeshifter, from our own perception.

She is currently the 2nd highest reptilian representative on the surface of the earth as far as the hibridization aparatus hierarchy goes.

she is very very old. The human form they are able to present is a result of very complicated genetics.

Loves to feast on teenagers.





Re: Gilles de Rais, aka 'Bluebeard' ( many think the fairytale
Bluebeard was based on the real life of Gilles de Rais)


He was a high-level military commander for the French royals,(the equivalent of France's military chief of staff) and the remains of mutilated and tortured children were found in his castle near the channel islands. Some say there were over 200 bodies found, others say it was over 600.
His castle army was 200 knights strong, and he was found in possession of occult books.

Quote:
http://vampires.monstrous.com/bloody_de_rais.htm

After the years of glory, Gilles seemed to have found life unbearably dull. During the course of the following year, according to his later confession, he committed his first sex murder, that of a boy. His grandfather willed his sword and cuirass to the younger brother René but died in the following year. Gilles was suddenly able to do what he liked.

One day, a young boy dubbed Poitou was brought to the château and raped, after which Gilles prepared to cut his throat. At this point, Gilles de Sille pointed out that Poitou was such a handsome boy that he would make an admirable page. So Poitou was allowed to live, and become one of Gilles' most trusted minions.

Gilles' attacks of sadism seem to have descended on him like an epileptic fit, and turned him into a kind of maniac. A boy would be lured to the castle on some pretext, and once inside Gilles' chamber, was hung from the ceiling on a rope or chain. But before he had lost consciousness, he was taken down and reassured that Gilles meant him no harm. Then he would be stripped and raped, after which Gilles, or one of his cronies would cut this throat or decapitate him (they had a special sword called a braquemard for removing the head).

But Gilles was still not sated; he would continue to sexually abuse the dead body, playing with the head in grotesque manner, sometimes cutting open the stomach, then squatting in the entrails and masturbating. When he reached a climax he would collapse in a faint, and be carried off to his bed, where he would remain unconscious for hours.

His accomplices would meanwhile dismember and burn the body. On some occasions, he later confessed, two children were procured, and each obliged to watch the other being raped and tortured.

Gilles was not merely sexually deranged; he was also a reckless spendthrift. He surrounded himself with a retinue of two hundred knights, for whom he provided. He loved to give banquets and fêtes; in 1435, when the city of Orléans celebrated its deliverance by Joan of Arc, Gilles presented a long mystery play about the siege, with enormous sets and a cast of hundreds, playing, of course, the leading role himself. He also provided food and wine for the spectators. Like a Roman emperor he must have felt that he was virtually a god.

In a mere three years he had spent what would now be the equivalent of millions of dollars. Back at Machécoul, he had to sell some of his most valuable estates. His brother was so alarmed that he persuaded the king to issue an interdict forbidding any further sales of land. For a man of Gilles' unbridled temperament, this was an intolerable position. He went into a gloomy and self-pitying retirement.

Years before, when he first went to court, he had borrowed a book on alchemy from an Angevin knight who had been imprisoned for heresy. Alchemy was prohibited by law, and for a man with Gilles' romantic craving for "the forbidden," this must have been an additional incentive to learn more about it. Now, ten years later, with his coffers empty, he realised that black magic might be the answer to his problems.

what is interesting is that the nearby Channel Islands include Jersey,
where the current Haut de la Gerenne scandal is unfolding,
complete with children's remains, which was home to the Beast
of Jersey , child rapist Edward Paisnel, who is thought to have idolized
Gilles de Rais.
Paisnel is said to have claimed to be part of a larger of group
which met to do black magic rituals while wearing masks, and
there are many who have said that Gilles de Rais himself could not
possibly have been solely responsible for all the murders attributed
to him.

Here is his coat of arms:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Blason-gilles-de-rais.gif/180px-Blason-gilles-de-rais.gif)


featuring the fleur de lis, which has been linked to the Priory of Sion.


(http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/priory-tb.JPG)
of which Leonardo DaVinci and Isaac Newton were said to be grand masters.
Interesting too that Benjamin Franklin had illuminati contacts in France
and was an associate of the HellFire Club, a thelemic sect linked to
sex magick/black magic rituals, rumored human sacrifice, and ten bodies were unearthed beneath Benjamin Franklin's home in England. The Hellfire Club is said to have been based on the occult rites of the Venetian Black Nobility.
(http://www.netpages.free-online.co.uk/scoutaus/sofa_logo_1.gif)

interesting too that child killers Dennis Rader and John Joubert
were both scout leaders, and that Joubert was stationed at Offut Airforce base, home to satanist colonel Michael Aquino, founder
of the Temple of Set,(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/TOS_logo.jpg/200px-TOS_logo.jpg)


and linked to military mind control experiments.
Joubert bled the bodies with multiple stab wounds.

(http://www.theknightshop.co.uk/catalog/images/AG854.jpg)




The Priory of Sion is said to have founded the Knights Templar, which later became the Knights of Malta, the Knights of St. John, and the Red Cross.

(http://www.kultofathena.com/images/thumbs/t_CN926719.jpg)
(http://www.anglicanmalta.org/jpgs/MalteseCross.jpg)
(http://www.gwpda.org/medals/ST-JOHN.JPG)
(http://achristian.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/red-cross-flag.jpg)
Interesting that the Red Cross has unlimited access to the blood and bodies produced by artificially engineered wars, while granted access to go behind both enemy lines in theaters of war.

Is there really so much money to be made on war that could not be made in other, constructive ways? Or is it that war provides not only money, but some things that other industries cannot provide:

- fresh young male blood (rich in testosterone, human growth hormone, adrenaline, and endorphins)
- pineal glands, thalamus glands

Could it be that we have a ruling elite literally addicted to blood?
Consider then that a thoroughly parasitic, cannibalistic, and vampiristic elite may be feeding on humanity.








this has got to be the best explanation why Kurt Cobain is dead, imo.
(http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/11/25/kurt_cobain,0.jpg)


http://www.altx.com/interzones2/london/rock.n.roll.html


...A more believable theory about Cobain's death suggests he was the victim of a CIA mind control experiment. An individual claiming to represent 'a private network of researchers' contacted me about this and arranged a meeting in the Temple Church on Fleet Street. Once I'd settled in a pew, a very nervous young man seated himself beside me. According to my contact, the CIA is deeply concerned about the subversive influence of popular music on young people, that's why 'they murdered Brian Jones, John Lennon and Jim Morrison'.

What's been worrying the spooks lately is the sway black radicalism has gained over the minds of white teenagers, to counter this 'they've been pushing Nation of Islam style separatism among rappers'. Likewise, the white Grunge movement spearheaded by Nirvana was backed by the CIA because 'they wanted to divide youngsters on racial lines, if black and white kids linked up, they'd pose a serious threat to the system. The whole point of Grunge is to instill in teenagers a sense of hopelessness, to fill them with self-hate and prevent them from changing the world.'

Apparently, the CIA got hold of Cobain when he was still unknown, then using drugs, hypnosis and medical torture, they broke his will and rebuilt his personality. 'Most of the time he'd act relatively normal,' I was told, 'but all it took was a few key words spoken over the phone and Cobain would carry out the deeds he'd been programmed to enact.' My contact was convinced that the singer had been brainwashed into committing suicide at the peak of his success because the CIA figured this would reduce his potentially rebellious fans to complete despair.

However, the conspiracy theorist admitted several of his fellow researchers thought Cobain had taken his own life as the only means of breaking free from the influence of his controllers. If this is the case, then the rock star is a hero rather than simply a victim, and his death provides grounds for a fresh outbreak of teenager rebellion.


Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: steveeray on July 10, 2008, 01:55:03 AM
Anarchy
no government
no control
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: knny187 on July 10, 2008, 12:47:09 PM
there's always opticion "C"


which is.....


if you don't like it...."C" your ass out of here
Title: Re: Proud to be an American in the Land of the Free?
Post by: HTexan on July 10, 2008, 12:54:35 PM
so the CIA brainwash kurt cobain? ??? That's is the dumbest shit i ever heard.  ::)