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Title: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Eldon on July 09, 2008, 02:47:17 PM

The parents of a blind seven-year-old who was sent to a religious school in Pakistan have told how he was hung by his feet from a ceiling and beaten to death after failing to memorise the Koran.

The parents of Mohammed Atif admitted that they had ignored their son Mohammed's repeated complaints about abuse at the madrassah.

Police in the Punjab province said that Mohammed's religious teacher, Qari Ziauddin, was now in custody charged with torturing and murdering the boy on Thursday.

Police said Ziauddin, whose title "Qari" signifies he is a mullah, had suspended the boy from a ceiling fan for an hour before he beat him. When he realised how badly Mohammed was hurt, he apparently fled instead of taking him to hospital.

(http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index_files/beaten-boy-pakistan.jpg)


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/2058670/Blind-seven-year-old-beaten-to-death-for-failing-to-learn-the-Koran.html
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: headhuntersix on July 09, 2008, 02:56:41 PM
Good job Pakistan....geeze u wonder why I don't like these morns.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Montague on July 09, 2008, 03:12:22 PM
"Religion of Peace."
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: youandme on July 09, 2008, 03:41:37 PM
disgusting
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Fury on July 09, 2008, 04:00:21 PM
This is a conspiracy theory made up by the media according to Hugo Chavez.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Nordic Superman on July 09, 2008, 04:30:15 PM
Hugo, why put this in the religious board?

This is entirely political surely? Why? Because islam is a religion of peace! So, islam isn't at fault here, so it's an entirely political post.

Please Hugo, explain this to me!
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: haider on July 09, 2008, 05:04:26 PM
The parents of a blind seven-year-old who was sent to a religious school in Pakistan have told how he was hung by his feet from a ceiling and beaten to death after failing to memorise the Koran.

The parents of Mohammed Atif admitted that they had ignored their son Mohammed's repeated complaints about abuse at the madrassah.

Police in the Punjab province said that Mohammed's religious teacher, Qari Ziauddin, was now in custody charged with torturing and murdering the boy on Thursday.

Police said Ziauddin, whose title "Qari" signifies he is a mullah, had suspended the boy from a ceiling fan for an hour before he beat him. When he realised how badly Mohammed was hurt, he apparently fled instead of taking him to hospital.

(http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index_files/beaten-boy-pakistan.jpg)


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/2058670/Blind-seven-year-old-beaten-to-death-for-failing-to-learn-the-Koran.html
Old news, our mullahs beat the fuck out of our children... your priests have sex with them instead. Good to see this being brought to the attention of the public. Please refrain from using it as anti-islamic propaganda, that doesn't do any good.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2008, 07:30:15 PM
Old news, our mullahs beat the fuck out of our children... your priests have sex with them instead. Good to see this being brought to the attention of the public. Please refrain from using it as anti-islamic propaganda, that doesn't do any good.

As an atheist I think both the Christians and the Muslims are scum; I have no priests and no mullahs and it is awesome.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: haider on July 09, 2008, 07:33:48 PM
As an atheist I think both the Christians and the Muslims are scum; I have no priests and no mullahs and it is awesome.
Fuck you too  ;D
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: loco on July 09, 2008, 07:59:15 PM
As an atheist I think both the Christians and the Muslims are scum; I have no priests and no mullahs and it is awesome.

Thanks, Deicide!  God bless you too!  I'm a Christian, but like you, I have no priest either because I'm not Catholic.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2008, 08:32:50 PM
Thanks, Deicide!  God bless you too!  I'm a Christian, but like you, I have no priest either because I'm not Catholic.


But you're still scum! ;D
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 10, 2008, 02:46:22 AM
I don't think people who follow these religions are scum.  They're just people.  The religions are a virus that infect them.  I don't hate someone because they're sick.  Hate the bug, not who it infects.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: d0nny2600 on July 10, 2008, 02:52:47 AM
Epic towelhead morons
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 10, 2008, 02:58:39 AM
Epic towelhead morons
Do you believe in your avatar?
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: d0nny2600 on July 10, 2008, 03:10:25 AM
No my Avatar is stupid....gayer than having an anarchy sign for an avatar
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Nordic Superman on July 10, 2008, 03:28:58 AM
Old news, our mullahs beat the fuck out of our children... your priests have sex with them instead. Good to see this being brought to the attention of the public. Please refrain from using it as anti-islamic propaganda, that doesn't do any good.

Oh, what's Christianity got to do with this? Please point it out, other than you're trying to shift the blame from islam is some undermine manner?

An idiot uses someone else's evil as an excuse for his own. Typical muslims.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Deicide on July 10, 2008, 05:10:11 AM
I don't think people who follow these religions are scum.  They're just people.  The religions are a virus that infect them.  I don't hate someone because they're sick.  Hate the bug, not who it infects.

Hate the sin, not the sinner... ::)
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 10, 2008, 05:40:38 AM
Hate the sin, not the sinner... ::)
WHAHUH? :-\
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Nordic Superman on July 10, 2008, 05:56:14 AM
WHAHUH? :-\

If a man commits a crime because of his religion, the religion is at fault, not the sinner?
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Deicide on July 10, 2008, 06:07:58 AM
WHAHUH? :-\

Christians say that all the time...
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: haider on July 10, 2008, 06:41:35 AM
Oh, what's Christianity got to do with this? Please point it out, other than you're trying to shift the blame from islam is some undermine manner?

An idiot uses someone else's evil as an excuse for his own. Typical muslims.
:)

All I did was point out that this kind of evil exists everywhere, and is not really unique to Islam. Where did I try to shift the blame? I siad I was well aware of this, and am glad that this was brought to the attention of the public. It is also wrong however to use it as anti-islamic propaganda, which would have you believe that this is commonplace in or unique to Islamic countries.

Creating controversy where none exists, I would suggest you back down from such hostile behavior as it is completely unwarranted. So I would ask you to please refrain from making this into a personal manner.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 10, 2008, 06:48:12 AM
Christians say that all the time...
They say Whahuh?  huh?  :-\
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Nordic Superman on July 10, 2008, 07:25:15 AM
:)

All I did was point out that this kind of evil exists everywhere, and is not really unique to Islam. Where did I try to shift the blame? I siad I was well aware of this, and am glad that this was brought to the attention of the public. It is also wrong however to use it as anti-islamic propaganda, which would have you believe that this is commonplace in or unique to Islamic countries.

Creating controversy where none exists, I would suggest you back down from such hostile behavior as it is completely unwarranted. So I would ask you to please refrain from making this into a personal manner.

Well, unconciously you try to shift the blame by pointer fingers at other peoples evils.

This a typical method used by any group on the back foot.

"Yeah yah, islamists are cowardly murderer today, but what about 400 years ago and the conquests?!?!?!" ::)

Go back to your madrasa.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Deedee on July 10, 2008, 07:48:01 AM
:)

All I did was point out that this kind of evil exists everywhere, and is not really unique to Islam. Where did I try to shift the blame? I siad I was well aware of this, and am glad that this was brought to the attention of the public. It is also wrong however to use it as anti-islamic propaganda, which would have you believe that this is commonplace in or unique to Islamic countries.

Creating controversy where none exists, I would suggest you back down from such hostile behavior as it is completely unwarranted. So I would ask you to please refrain from making this into a personal manner.

The only way to oust wrongs against humanity is to stick them under a microscope and publish as much as possible.  In the case of Catholic priests, they were outed, rape victims came forward, and it was in the news constantly.  That translated into anti-Catholic sentiment... but so what? The Church was humbled, forced to change, and serves its people at least a little bit better today. 
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: loco on July 10, 2008, 09:42:11 AM
But you're still scum! ;D

 >:(

Have a nice day, Deicide!   ;D
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: haider on July 10, 2008, 05:19:11 PM
The only way to oust wrongs against humanity is to stick them under a microscope and publish as much as possible.  In the case of Catholic priests, they were outed, rape victims came forward, and it was in the news constantly.  That translated into anti-Catholic sentiment... but so what? The Church was humbled, forced to change, and serves its people at least a little bit better today. 
Look at who the author of this thread is  ;)

Its quite another thing when the purpose is to create the anti-*enter religion* sentiment than it is to raise awareness in an appropriatte manner which might encourage a negative sentiment.

Seperate the sin from the sinner, and you're likely to get the message across a little better IMO.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Deedee on July 10, 2008, 05:51:55 PM
Look at who the author of this thread is  ;)

Its quite another thing when the purpose is to create the anti-*enter religion* sentiment than it is to raise awareness in an appropriatte manner which might encourage a negative sentiment.

Seperate the sin from the sinner, and you're likely to get the message across a little better IMO.

Yeah, I know.  :)  Not sure about separating the sin from the sinner though. I don't think the kid was consoling himself with that notion either as he was being flogged to death.  :-\ 
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: haider on July 10, 2008, 06:01:44 PM
Yeah, I know.  :)  Not sure about separating the sin from the sinner though. I don't think the kid was consoling himself with that notion either as he was being flogged to death.  :-\ 
lol, well I guess what I said doesn't apply in this case.. I was trying to say that atacking someone's religion, something they STRONGLY identify with isn't going to solve any problems. If anything they will strongly cling to their original ways even more.

Example 1- tell muslims their religion sucks, and it cause people to kill other people and beat children to death....

Example 2- Raise awareness about a problem, educate people...


Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Deicide on July 10, 2008, 06:07:16 PM
lol, well I guess what I said doesn't apply in this case.. I was trying to say that atacking someone's religion, something they STRONGLY identify with isn't going to solve any problems. If anything they will strongly cling to their original ways even more.

Example 1- tell muslims their religion sucks, and it cause people to kill other people and beat children to death....

Example 2- Raise awareness about a problem, educate people...




I don't know. I kind of like medievalism; kind of keeps people disciplined. :D
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: haider on July 10, 2008, 06:08:59 PM
I don't know. I kind of like medievalism; kind of keeps people disciplined. :D
Lovely to hear this from a jew, LOL!
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Deicide on July 10, 2008, 06:20:27 PM
Lovely to hear this from a jew, LOL!

My nose is 7 feet long...really...all genetics.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Fury on July 10, 2008, 06:23:54 PM
lol, well I guess what I said doesn't apply in this case.. I was trying to say that atacking someone's religion, something they STRONGLY identify with isn't going to solve any problems. If anything they will strongly cling to their original ways even more.

Example 1- tell muslims their religion sucks, and it cause people to kill other people and beat children to death....

Example 2- Raise awareness about a problem, educate people...




First off, all religion sucks. Maybe there's a God up there, maybe not. I'm not going to have a group of people tell me what they think he would say is right or wrong.

Awareness does nothing with Muslims. Never has, never will. They listen to one thing, the sword. Brutality and oppression is the only way to get them to stop anything.

All the "awareness" in the world won't stop stonings, honor killings, killing of civilians, Muslim men having sex with farm animals, etc.

Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: haider on July 10, 2008, 06:24:29 PM
My nose is 7 feet long...really...all genetics.
All environmental factors.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: haider on July 10, 2008, 06:27:44 PM
First off, all religion sucks. Maybe there's a God up there, maybe not. I'm not going to have a group of people tell me what they think he would say is right or wrong.

Awareness does nothing with Muslims. Never has, never will. They listen to one thing, the sword. Brutality and oppression is the only way to get them to stop anything.

All the "awareness" in the world won't stop stonings, honor killings, killing of civilians, Muslim men having sex with farm animals, etc.


wipe them off I guess.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Fury on July 10, 2008, 06:34:09 PM
wipe them off I guess.

Glad you agree!
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: haider on July 10, 2008, 06:38:20 PM
Glad you agree!
apparently the mullah did as well. Your philosophy seems quite popular.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Fury on July 10, 2008, 06:39:59 PM
apparently the mullah did as well. Your philosophy seems quite popular.

Got to laugh at the cowardice of that guy. After he realizes he killed the kid he flees. A pussy to the end.

Just goes to show the stupidity of these people. "Hey, let's hang a kid from a ceiling fan and beat him in the head for a while. I'm sure he'll be fine!!!!"  ::)
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: Deicide on July 10, 2008, 07:32:24 PM
In the immortal words of the great thinker Rodney King:

"Why can't we all just get along?"
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: benchthis on July 11, 2008, 01:49:37 AM
fucking piece of shit  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: The Master on July 14, 2008, 02:11:55 PM

Awareness does nothing with Muslims. Never has, never will.


That's a far fetched generalization.
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: 24KT on August 23, 2008, 01:26:59 AM
Muslim men having sex with farm animals, etc.


They're not the only ones, ...apparently extreme right wing Republicans do it too.  :-X

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/06/bizarre_sex_habits_of_the_extreme_rightwing.php (http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/06/bizarre_sex_habits_of_the_extreme_rightwing.php)
Title: Re: Blind seven-year-old beaten to death for failing to learn the Koran
Post by: El_Pajero on August 23, 2008, 01:38:43 AM
...........and in the usa they have very fat women.

whats worse?