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1 Kamali doesn't look cool?
2 Arnold's calves
4 Coleman
23 Gaspari
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I read it all,
and thought it was great!
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The article is to small to read, post up what the numbers said in the article... d
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The article is to small to read, post up what the numbers said in the article... d
click on the photo....it will enlarge
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I read it all, and thought it was great!
me too. Wonder who wrote it.
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Here' it is Johnny boy:
Bobservations
This Month: 30 things I've observed in 30 years
Having had a close relationship with training and competing over the last 30 years, I have been able to reflect on various lessons I've learned as I eventually made my way to the pro ranks by winning the overall at the 2000 NPC USA. Believe me, there was a lot to learn in 15 pro qualifiers ranging back to 1987!
Here is a list of some of what I have figured out during my journey. Some concepts are oversimplifications, but like all good aphorisms, there is at least a kernel of truth contained within each. Consider my advice as insight gained from experience – maybe these tips will make your path a bit easier.
1 No posing routine using a costume ever looked cool.
2 I've never seen a bodybuilder bring up a lagging body part by training it more often.
3 Cardio sessions over an hour never result in losing more fat without the expense of muscle.
4 The heavier I trained, the worse the end result
5 The harder you strike a pose, the more it looks the same.
6 My mother thinks I should have won every show I ever competed in.
7 The further out you cut water, the flatter you'll look.
8 The more you carb up, the softer you'll look.
9 The answer to most questions is “in the middle.”
10 The smaller the waist, the bigger the shoulders.
11 The scale has been responsible for more bodybuilders losing contests than any other factor except the next one.
12 The process of carb depleting and loading doesn't work most of the time.
13 There is no defense in bodybuilding
14 The illusion of a better bodybuilder is better than a better bodybuilder.
15 If you think you know your body better than anyone, you're probably wrong.
16 The phrase “I'm in the best shape of my life” is the kiss of death.
17 Looking good in “bad light” means you're ready.
18 It's better to look good than to feel good on stage.
19 It's better to feel good than to look good any time before the day of the show.
20 The average prep time is 12 weeks. The average time you screw it up is 48 hours.
21 If there are two people in a class and you don't win, you're last.
22 Just because you qualify to compete nationally doesn't mean you should.
23 Drugs don't build better genetics.
24 There is a fine line between dedication and obsession.
25 Training smarter trumps training harder.
26 The worst bodybuilders make the best gurus, and vice versa.
27 The best poser never wins the posing round, and the most symmetrical never wins the symmetry round.
28 Ninety-nine percent of the competitors who don't win look better on Fridays an Sundays.
29 One hundred percent of winners are satisfied with the judging.
30 It's not how much you lift, it's how much you look like you can lift.
BONUS ROUND
1 Everyone not in the bodybuilding industry knows someone bigger, stronger and better than me.
2 There is no 'bench press' round.
3 No matter who designs them, white posing trunks look like underwear on stage.
4 If I had a dime for every time someone asks me “Whaddya bench?” I's have a lot of dimes.
5 The three worst enemies to a competitive bodybuilder are the scale, tape measure and his mind.
6 No bodybuilder ever thought he was “100%” at a show.
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Cool.....Now I get the BS better...
me too. Wonder who wrote it.
You mean Chick uses a "ghost writer"......but then that would mean Anrold and all the others never wrote their articles either...I am shocked...SHOCKED I tell you ::)
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27 The best poser never wins the posing round, and the most symmetrical never wins the symmetry round.
Thats because ALL ROUNDS are PHYSIQUE ROUNDS not many people get this.
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27 The best poser never wins the posing round, and the most symmetrical never wins the symmetry round.
Thats because ALL ROUNDS are PHYSIQUE ROUNDS not many people get this.
Stupid people.
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Stupid people.
Right ! Yates always won the symmetry round as well as the posing rounds and people didn't ' get it ' because they're ignorant every single bit of judging criteria is assessed in every single round , symmetry is NOT judged as a separate and distinct entity in the ' symmetry round ' and neither is posing in the ' posing ' rounds all rounds are physique rounds
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Some one explain # 2 & #4 to me.
All these years Arnold claims to brought up his calves by training them more (almost everyday) & by training them heavier.
Bob never won an Olympia title...but contradicts the champ
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Right ! Yates always won the symmetry round as well as the posing rounds and people didn't ' get it ' because they're ignorant every single bit of judging criteria is assessed in every single round , symmetry is NOT judged as a separate and distinct entity in the ' symmetry round ' and neither is posing in the ' posing ' rounds all rounds are physique rounds
Then why bother having the round and why not just given the first place winner 6 trophies with every "category" he won?
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Bob pretty much nails it...
A testament to his knowledge in the sport. I like his "no bodybuilder ever thought they were 100% on stage".
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I hate it when writers use double negatives (like number 3) to sound witty but in the meanwhile end up confusing the hell out of me.
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"Bobservations" ::)
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it's pretty catchy....but I doubt even bob figured out where they came up with that phrase
;D
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You can disagree all you want....their MY observations, thus the title of my article.
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well.....they won you a pro card after how many years & then if you factor in all your pro wins....
you must be right
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1 Kamali doesn't look cool?
2 Arnold's calves
4 Coleman
23 Gaspari
Gaspari lost every Olympia to Haney because what I wrote was true....you actually make my case even stronger.
Coleman's end result was a torn up physique, same as Yates...both of which have said on record, they would have gone lighter if they could go back.
What Arnold CLAIMS, and what he did may be two very different things.
I have no issue with props in guest posing situations....not for competitions IMO.
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Some one explain # 2 & #4 to me.
All these years Arnold claims to brought up his calves by training them more (almost everyday) & by training them heavier.
Bob never won an Olympia title...but contradicts the champ
I would submit that no one ever changed their proportions, never really made a weak bodypart a strong bodypart. This is provided you have trained everything and not totally neglected something. That's why it's pretty ridiculous to advice a pro bodybuilder to bring up his "lower lats" or whatever. Not gonna happen. You can get bigger overall and/or more cut - that's pretty much it.
Arnold didn't have very weak calves IMO. Not like Johnie Jackson's for example. Or Ronnie Coleman's. You could see he had the bellies and fibers there. He just needed more time. Both Ronnie and Johnnie probably shot up their calves with various substances, with fairly poor response. That's all you can do with a BP like that.
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You can disagree all you want....their MY observations, thus the title of my article.
Chick you nailed this one pretty good, I 100% agree with you on every single one. When you said the more you carb the softer you look does this mean you shouldn't carb as much or is it worth the trade?
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Bob, regarding #12, did you deplete and load when you won your card?
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Chick you nailed this one pretty good, I 100% agree with you on every single one. When you said the more you carb the softer you look does this mean you shouldn't carb as much or is it worth the trade?
Guys WaAAAAAAAAY over carb, which only starts the ball rolling to try and cut even more water out, more diuretics, more scrambling, etc....when they more than likely looked better BEFORE all the bullshit.
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Hahaha
This was genius.
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Bobservations is very clever.
Did you feel bobligated to write so many?
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Hahaha
This was genius.
Yep...genius material from a guy that spends 24/ 7 on a BB site.
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Goatboy is Bobsessed with Bob.
He always throws bobscenitys at Chick.
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Coleman's end result was a torn up physique, same as Yates...both of which have said on record, they would have gone lighter if they could go back.
If they followed your advice.....there would not be one Sandow sitting on their mantles & most likely would be sitting on 14 other mantles.
What Arnold CLAIMS, and what he did may be two very different things.
So you're saying that Arnold did not train them daily with high weights (up to 1,000 lbs per Reg Park) & high volume did NOT happen?
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If they followed your advice.....there would not be one Sandow sitting on their mantles & most likely would be sitting on 14 other mantles.
So you're saying that Arnold did not train them daily with high weights (up to 1,000 lbs per Reg Park) & high volume did NOT happen?
Bobsically what Bob is saying is... Anything Arnold ever wrote about in the book Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding regarding his calves was a farce.
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Bobsically what Bob is saying is... Anything Arnold ever wrote about in the book Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding regarding his calves was a farce.
I doubt Arnold actually ever wrote anything. ;)
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I doubt Arnold actually ever wrote anything. ;)
That would be bobvious.
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I doubt Arnold actually ever wrote anything. ;)
You'd be Bobsicle if you believed anything otherwise.
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gayer than not realizing that bob has to clear every word with his boss before saying it ::)
bob, what do you feel is/was your biggest contribution as "athlete rep"?
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great article
knny and goatboy were lonely geeks growing up, guys like chick got all the chicks 8)
harassing bob here is their way of "getting back" those cooler kids :D
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Right ! Yates always won the symmetry round as well as the posing rounds and people didn't ' get it ' because they're ignorant every single bit of judging criteria is assessed in every single round , symmetry is NOT judged as a separate and distinct entity in the ' symmetry round ' and neither is posing in the ' posing ' rounds all rounds are physique rounds
did ND just say that?! :o
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If they followed your advice.....there would not be one Sandow sitting on their mantles & most likely would be sitting on 14 other mantles.
So you're saying that Arnold did not train them daily with high weights (up to 1,000 lbs per Reg Park) & high volume did NOT happen?
Or they would have a few more each to add to their collection.....
Maybe he just started training them...period.
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great article
knny and goatboy were lonely geeks growing up, guys like chick got all the chicks 8)
harassing bob here is their way of "getting back" those cooler kids :D
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If everyone kissed his ass you wouldn't get as many great responses from him.. you need some form of controversy.
All in all Bob is a decent feller
Now don't you have some water jugs to carry for Levrone?
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If everyone kissed his ass you wouldn't get as many great responses from him.. you need some form of controversy.
All in all Bob is a decent feller
Now don't you have some water jugs to carry for Levrone?
even though he is smaller, Mr. Levrone is still strong enough to carry whatever he needs
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Bob, regarding #12, did you deplete and load when you won your card?
Bump for Bob
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Chick why are you bashing your bro Kamali in that article?
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Bump for Bob
I used a much simpler version, lowered them slightly...raised them slightly.
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Goatboy is Bobsessed with Bob.
He always throws bobscenitys at Chick.
Nah, I'm not obsessed with Bob, I'm obsessed with Amy Lee, just ask anyone on the Gayer Than thread. I only lob grenades at Bob when I feel like it for fun. ;D
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Nah, I'm not obsessed with Bob, I'm obsessed with Amy Lee, just ask anyone on the Gayer Than thread. I only lob grenades at Bob when I feel like it for fun. ;D
Well...you certainly have spare time.
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The problem most builders make is even though they look great they carb load, then carb deplete.If you look good, dont do anything drastic the week of the show, except cut back your sodium, and water intake.
I seen so many guys screw up the week of the show, by carb loading , cutting there water to low or try to use a diuretic and it flattens then out.Another real risky move is sodium loading, and creatine loading the week of a show.
Bob hit the nail right on the head, when he said just lower your carbs slightly, then raise then slightly.
This leaves little room for error.
If your not in shape come the week of the show, carb manipulation or diuretics wont do anything but make you look even worse.
I personally think that if you dieted correctly and put the work in you should look contest ready 2 1/2 weeks out.The only thing you should need to do is cut back the sodium, and the water, and your ready for the stage.
To many guys count on stupid ass rituals the week of the show, to make them look good.99% of the time these are the same jokers, that step on stage looking, flat, smooth or bloated.
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All true...
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You can disagree all you want....their MY observations, thus the title of my article.
so if a mag pays a bodybuilder a thousand dollars to have a ghost writer write something under the bodybuilder's byline, do they pay eleven hundred if the bodybuilder writes it himself?
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so if a mag pays a bodybuilder a thousand dollars to have a ghost writer write something under the bodybuilder's byline, do they pay eleven hundred if the bodybuilder writes it himself?
I couldn't tell you....can't speak for anyone else, but I've written every article I've ever had put in a magazine.
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I couldn't tell you....can't speak for anyone else, but I've written every article I've ever had put in a magazine.
No editorial 'suggestions?'
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2 Arnold's calves
4 Coleman
23 Gaspari
Good points, X2
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No editorial 'suggestions?'
Edited down, the rest is mine...
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LOL! This is awesome.
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Edited down, the rest is mine...
Very cool. I do some 'scribbling' myself - and let me tell you, I do not appreciate the suggestions that come down from on high. >:( :)
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Or they would have a few more each to add to their collection.....
Or as your contest results could prove....less to add to their collection
Maybe he just started training them...period.
Seems like he did more than that as well as the late Reg Park.
Maybe he was lying too?
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I wonder which ghost writer translated that from the German
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1 Kamali doesn't look cool?
2 Arnold's calves
4 Coleman
23 Gaspari
1) no
2) i've got a feeling it's like platz's legs, the genetics were there he just didn't train them.
3) while strong, ronnie doesn't train that heavy very often.
4) true!
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chick i will prove you wrong.
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I only disagree on number 2.
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chick i will prove you wrong.
which of the 30?
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which of the 30?
you will have to wait and see
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you will have to wait and see
Are you Chicks "yes man" now dizzle???
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you will have to wait and see
I've checked them out and its hard to argue any of them, they seem pretty accurate. If you can explain one thats off then perhaps chick could be wrong but so far no one has come up with a reason to indicate any of them to be off.
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even though he is smaller, Mr. Levrone is still strong enough to carry whatever he needs
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Ha ha ha ha...you are such a little gay girl. Always obsessing over Levrone and calling him "Mr.Levrone". You have the profile of a "guy" who enjoys pushing another man's spooge mixed with your shit to your prostate. And I'm still waiting your picture, you fatass turd boy. C'mon bitch. What are you afraid of? That everyone will realize what a fat, unemployed, bald 45 year old old closeted gay loser you are?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ha ha ha ha...you are such a little gay ####. Always obsessing over Levrone and calling him "Mr.Levrone". You have the profile of a "guy" who enjoys pushing another man's spooge mixed with your shit to your prostate. And I'm still waiting your picture, you fatass turd boy. C'mon bitch. What are you afraid of? That everyone will realize what a fat, unemployed, bald 45 year old old closeted gay loser you are?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
haha still thinking about me quite often eh sucky :-* :-*
and if you weren't so stupid (or is it drunk ;)) you would remember that i said I would post a pic when you post one
funny how you call me a bitch for not posting a pic, so you are one too ???
i think you have a crush on me and want to see who has owned your mind ever since the day you registered 8)
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haha still thinking about me quite often eh sucky :-* :-*
and if you weren't so stupid (or is it drunk ;)) you would remember that i said I would post a pic when you post one
funny how you call me a bitch for not posting a pic, so you are one too ???
i think you have a crush on me and want to see who has owned your mind ever since the day you registered 8)
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SuckySucky should post a picture NOW.
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LMAO! F'Owned! Does anyone have the Kinky Kamali one?
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Arnolds calves were fake
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haha still thinking about me quite often eh sucky :-* :-*
and if you weren't so stupid (or is it drunk ;)) you would remember that i said I would post a pic when you post one
Hey, dumbass, I am not the one calling others fatty and saying that they have crappy physiques, so I have no obligations to prove shit. But just for your information I will enter this year's Mr.Getbig and shut your c.u.n.t hole once and for all. And the only thing that I'm drunk on is your mother's pussy juices. That bitch's c.u.n.t smells quite fishy and rotten, but I still like it anyway. :-*
funny how you call me a bitch for not posting a pic, so you are one too ???
Again, I'm not the one bragging and calling others fat without ever having seen them in person or in pics, so STFU bitch.
i think you have a crush on me and want to see who has owned your mind ever since the day you registered 8)
Sure, whatever you say. You are just angry because Dorian defeated your hero ad nauseum, and you lash out on me like a chick on PMS defending her man. I am sorry, but saying that becasue Levrone's physique gives you more boner than any other does not constitute an "ownage". ;) You have no arguments and nothing interesting to say, really.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Hey, dumbass, I am not the one calling others fatty and saying that they have crappy physiques, so I have no obligations to prove shit. But just for your information I will enter this year's Mr.Getbig and shut your c.u.n.t hole once and for all. And the only thing that I'm drunk on is your mother's pussy juices. That bitch's c.u.n.t smells quite fishy and rotten, but I still like it anyway. :-*
SUCKMYMUSCLE
It will be funny seeing a former juicehead claiming to bench in the 600s at the top of his juiceness as a natty in Mr.GB ;D
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It will be funny seeing a former juicehead claiming to bench in the 600s at the top of his juiceness as a natty in Mr.GB ;D
Who said I will compete as a natural? I will megadose somatostatin-C, oxymetholone, somatotropin, Leukocin,2 and aminogluthetimide. I don't enter contests to lose...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Who said I will compete as a natural? I will megadose somatostatin-C, oxymetholone, somatotropin, Leukocin,2 and aminogluthetimide. I don't enter contests to lose...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
The contest ain't for drug users, and you claimed that "juicing was the biggest mistake of my life" :D
Using sauce was the worse decision I ever made, in my life. At a height of 6'5, I achieved a bodyweight of 315 lbs, true, but it was pointless because I don't have good bodybuilding genetics. Besides, for someone of my height and bone structure, 315 lbs is not really that extraordinary. Very big, yes, but nothing that made me look freakish.
As for the health thing, I sincerely don't know. My guess is that I'm probably all fucked up on the inside, even though I still look healthy outside. When I was saucing hardcore, I had a one rep max of 610 lbs, on the bench. Now that I'm sauce-free and down to 260 lbs, my strengh is way down, but I can still do a single with 440 lbs and I can do eight reps with four plates a side. Also, when I was saucing, I had a really, really bad temper.
On more than one occasion, I felt an undescribable urge to murder some of the posters of this board, for some commentaries they made at the time. In all honesty, if they were standing in front of me, I think I would have killed them. I'm dead serious, man. I thank my lucky stars they were away from me, because otherwise I'd be on death row, or facing a life-term. As an example, I killed my neighbors german shephard with my bare hands, by breaking his spine. Needpless to say, I'm being sued both for aggravated assault and property damage.
The bottom line is that sauce isn't worth it, man. You don't need it to get big; they are only indispensable if you need to be both huge AND ripped, simultaneously. For the professional bodybuilder, they are a necessity, because they need to display muscularity, which involves taking your bodyfat to really low levels. When you lose bodyfat, you also lose muscle. So, to SHOW large muscles, you definitely need sauce. Myself, I have never weighed above 240 lbs while being really, really ripped(4% bodyfat)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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The contest ain't for drug users,
And how are they going to test for it? Is everyone who partakes in the contest going to send urine or blood samples by mail? And if so, what stops those partaking in the contest from submitting urine or blood samples from clean people and passing it as theirs? Furthermore, even if the contest organizers had ways to get urine samples from the competitors and make it sure it's truly theirs, it still doesen't change the fact that there are several compounds that elude testing. These include somatotrophin, aminogluthetimide and somatostain-C. So making the contest drug-free is a retarded premisse.
and you claimed that "juicing was the biggest mistake of my life" :D
Using them permanently or semi-perminently would be a mistake, but taking them for a few months with the aid of several other drugs to mitigate their side effects to win a contest is unlikely to cause damage. Taking finasteride to stop excessive conversion to methyltestosterone, pravastaine or other statines to maintain a positive high density lipoprotein to low density lipoprotein profile, tamoxiphene or clomiphene to stop conversion of testosterone into beta-stradiol, and luteinizing hormone post-cycle to stimulate the leydig cells to re-start testosterone production make the risks of taking steroids for a few months acceptable.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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And how are they going to test for it? Is everyone who partakes in the contest going to send urine or blood samples by mail? And if so, what stops those partaking in the contest from submitting urine or blood samples from clean people and passing it as theirs? Furthermore, even if the contest organizers had ways to get urine samples from the competitors and make it sure it's truly theirs, it still doesen't change the fact that there are several compounds that elude testing. These include somatotrophin, aminogluthetimide and somatostain-C. So making the contest drug-free is a retarded premisse.
Of course the "honor system" will be used, as no real drug tests will be added. The most basic "tell tell" sign when this system = used, besides a very roided physique that = just too suspicious = a posters posting history. Last year Candidizzle was DQd for writing about using PH not allowed.
You claim the wish to win no matter what, yet you basically do the dumbest thing (advertising your planned drug use to the board) possible when you could just have shut up about it :D (large suspicion about drug use from your postings = you might not be allowed to compete)
Using them permanently or semi-perminently would be a mistake, but taking them for a few months with the aid of several other drugs to mitigate their side effects to win a contest is unlikely to cause damage. Taking finasteride to stop excessive conversion to methyltestosterone, pravastaine or other statines to maintain a positive high density lipoprotein to low density lipoprotein profile, tamoxiphene or clomiphene to stop conversion of testosterone into beta-stradiol, and luteinizing hormone post-cycle to stimulate the leydig cells to re-start testosterone production make the risks of taking steroids for a few months acceptable.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Good for you, talking about roiding, taking GH, taking hair loss/prostate drugs, PCT stuff AND other stuff for a natural contest you claim to wish to win, yet are already doing what you can to get DQ's :D Great strategy :D
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Of course the "honor system" will be used, as no real drug tests will be added. The most basic "tell tell" sign when this system = used, besides a very roided physique that = just too suspicious = a posters posting history. Last year Candidizzle was DQd for writing about using PH not allowed.
Right...and what if a competitor has outstanding genetics and is able to achieve a drug-like physique naturally? Who is to tell by visuals only who is and is not using drugs? Can you tell the difference between a natural and one who is using low doses or nandrolone or stanozolol? Of course you can't. There are many naturals who achieve physiques that are superior to guys who are taking low doses of weak anabolics like nandrolone. So if you went by visual evidence, you would disqualify the bigger natural while rewarding the smaller roided out guy. See how stupid your arguments are?
You claim the wish to win no matter what, yet you basically do the dumbest thing (advertising your planned drug use to the board) possible when you could just have shut up about it :D (large suspicion about drug use from your postings = you might not be allowed to compete)
Do you think at all before you post? The reason why I'm telling has already been explained, namely, that it is impossible to tell who will be on drugs or not. As for me being forbidden from partaking in the contest, it is also redundant because the other competitors might remain quiet about it while using drugs anyway. And not publicly staing that they won't use drugs is irrelevant because it doesen't mean that they won't.
Good for you, talking about roiding, taking GH, taking hair loss/prostate drugs, PCT stuff AND other stuff for a natural contest you claim to wish to win, yet are already doing what you can to get DQ's :D Great strategy :D
Again, disqualifying me from competing would be retarded because there is no logical relation between not publicly stating that you will not use drugs for the contest and not using drugs for the contest. And if I do get disqualified from competing, then no one can claim that I lost. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Right...and what if a competitor has outstanding genetics and is able to achieve a drug-like physique naturally? Who is to tell by visuals only who is and is not using drugs? Can you tell the difference between a natural and one who is using low doses or nandrolone or stanozolol? Of course you can't. There are many naturals who achieve physiques that are superior to guys who are taking low doses of weak anabolics like nandrolone. So if you went by visual evidence, you would disqualify the bigger natural while rewarding the smaller roided out guy. See how stupid your arguments are?
The DQ - criteria used in the contest is basically the judges faith in you. If they think you look "drug - good" while having written about drug use, even though it's a naturally attainable physique if you are genetically inclined (in your opinion), you will probably still get DQ'd, and that's the whole point here. Your way of viewing the situation = probably not similar to the judges way of seeing things ;)
Do you think at all before you post? The reason why I'm telling has already been explained, namely, that it is impossible to tell who will be on drugs or not. As for me being forbidden from partaking in the contest, it is also redundant because the other competitors might remain quiet about it while using drugs anyway. And not publicly staing that they won't use drugs is irrelevant because it doesen't mean that they won't.
Again, disqualifying me from competing would be retarded because there is no logical relation between not publicly stating that you will not use drugs for the contest and not using drugs for the contest. And if I do get disqualified from competing, then no one can claim that I lost. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You stated that your original goal was to win it, and that implies winning it with the judges consent. In sports, a lot of athletes juice, many don't get caught because they don't fail the test. If they fail, they get caught. The "test" for the "honor system" is basically the judges faith in you (even though it might not be rational from your point of view). Part of the "testing criteria" is what you write on here, in conjunction with the physique you present. Talking about using drugs + displaying a "drug like" physique will give you higher chances of getting DQ'd compared to you shutting up about drug use and just presenting a great physique.
No matter how you rationalize you writing all this stuff and no matter if YOU think a DQ partially based on what you have written here = "retarded", you are still increasing your risk of getting DQ'd. Don't make the mistake of thinking that the judges shares your way of seeing things ;)
And if you get DQ'd, you will not win, and you can claim you did not lose. But you still did not win, and you will have used a shitload of drugs for nothing (unless you have some other goal that needs drugs to be achieved) ;)
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The DQ - criteria used in the contest is basically the judges faith in you. If they think you look "drug - good" while having written about drug use, even though it's a naturally attainable physique if you are genetically inclined (in your opinion), you will probably still get DQ'd, and that's the whole point here. Your way of viewing the situation = probably not similar to the judges way of seeing things ;)
You stated that your original goal was to win it, and that implies winning it with the judges consent. In sports, a lot of athletes juice, many don't get caught because they don't fail the test. If they fail, they get caught. The "test" for the "honor system" is basically the judges faith in you (even though it might not be rational from your point of view). Part of the "testing criteria" is what you write on here, in conjunction with the physique you present. Talking about using drugs + displaying a "drug like" physique will give you higher chances of getting DQ'd compared to you shutting up about drug use and just presenting a great physique.
No matter how you rationalize you writing all this stuff and no matter if YOU think a DQ partially based on what you have written here = "retarded", you are still increasing your risk of getting DQ'd. Don't make the mistake of thinking that the judges shares your way of seeing things ;)
And if you get DQ'd, you will not win, and you can claim you did not lose. But you still did not win, and you will have used a shitload of drugs for nothing (unless you have some other goal that needs drugs to be achieved) ;)
Monster retarded, stupid, moronic, absurd post. I'll leave it at that. There's nothing more to say, really, because you're just repeating yourself.
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Monster retarded, stupid, moronic, absurd post. I'll leave it at that. There's nothing more to say, really, because you're just repeating yourself.
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Moron. You have still not answered to the issue at hand (the reason for the repetition ::) ), only offered your own viewpoint of the situation and thinking the judges actually shares your way of viewing things ;)
The winner of the discussion will be decided in october ;)
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SMM/CM sure loves his cheating!
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SMM/CM sure loves his cheating!
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Good article Bob.
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Hey, dumbass, I am not the one calling others fatty and saying that they have crappy physiques, so I have no obligations to prove shit. But just for your information I will enter this year's Mr.Getbig and shut your c.u.n.t hole once and for all. And the only thing that I'm drunk on is your mother's pussy juices. That bitch's c.u.n.t smells quite fishy and rotten, but I still like it anyway. :-*
Again, I'm not the one bragging and calling others fat without ever having seen them in person or in pics, so STFU bitch.
Sure, whatever you say. You are just angry because Dorian defeated your hero ad nauseum, and you lash out on me like a chick on PMS defending her man. I am sorry, but saying that becasue Levrone's physique gives you more boner than any other does not constitute an "ownage". ;) You have no arguments and nothing interesting to say, really.
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you claimed to be about 280 if i remember correctly, unless you are a Mr. Olympia competitor or 7'0 you are a fat fuck :P
so when i call you fat without seeing you i'm a bitch, you call me a 45 year old unemployed, 5'7, balding loser without seeing me so what does that make you?
i don't "lash out" on you, you do that to me don't forget you registered because of me and said you would beat me up if you saw me in person
yeah i'm the one that "lashes out" hahaha ;)
you have been melting down over my posts for 4 years now so clearly you think my posts are quite interesting 8)
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Using sauce was the worse decision I ever made, in my life. At a height of 6'5, I achieved a bodyweight of 315 lbs, true, but it was pointless because I don't have good bodybuilding genetics. Besides, for someone of my height and bone structure, 315 lbs is not really that extraordinary. Very big, yes, but nothing that made me look freakish.
As for the health thing, I sincerely don't know. My guess is that I'm probably all fucked up on the inside, even though I still look healthy outside. When I was saucing hardcore, I had a one rep max of 610 lbs, on the bench. Now that I'm sauce-free and down to 260 lbs, my strengh is way down, but I can still do a single with 440 lbs and I can do eight reps with four plates a side. Also, when I was saucing, I had a really, really bad temper.
On more than one occasion, I felt an undescribable urge to murder some of the posters of this board, for some commentaries they made at the time. In all honesty, if they were standing in front of me, I think I would have killed them. I'm dead serious, man. I thank my lucky stars they were away from me, because otherwise I'd be on death row, or facing a life-term. As an example, I killed my neighbors german shephard with my bare hands, by breaking his spine. Needpless to say, I'm being sued both for aggravated assault and property damage.
The bottom line is that sauce isn't worth it, man. You don't need it to get big; they are only indispensable if you need to be both huge AND ripped, simultaneously. For the professional bodybuilder, they are a necessity, because they need to display muscularity, which involves taking your bodyfat to really low levels. When you lose bodyfat, you also lose muscle. So, to SHOW large muscles, you definitely need sauce. Myself, I have never weighed above 240 lbs while being really, really ripped(4% bodyfat)
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hahahahaha i just saw this right after i posted
lets just say that you are even more of an angry loser then i thought
my itty bitty internet words get under your skin to the point that you would kill me hahahahahahahahaha
you are a pathetic joke
nuff said :-* :-* :-*
ps can't wait to see you in the mr. getbig
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you claimed to be about 280 if i remember correctly, unless you are a Mr. Olympia competitor or 7'0 you are a fat fuck :P
You sad child...I have been actually 310 lbs with average bodyfat. I used to sauce hardcore, and I am almost 6'5 tall. So once again, you talk out of your ass.
so when i call you fat without seeing you i'm a bitch, you call me a 45 year old unemployed, 5'7, balding loser without seeing me so what does that make you?
Because fags who call others fat on internet bodybuilding message boards are usually unemployed 45 year-old losers. The fact that you won't post a picture of yourself only reinforces my suspicion and indicates that I am probably right. ;)
i don't "lash out" on you, you do that to me don't forget you registered because of me and said you would beat me up if you saw me in person
Don't flatter yourself, retard. I registered here to correct you on something you wrote, and I was successful in that you didn't post in that thread again - from what I recall. ;)
And it goes to show what a fag you are that you boast about the fact that you bitched out from fighting me. Lol...you need to be a complete fucking coward with no personal dignity to feel proud over running away from a challenge. ;)
yeah i'm the one that "lashes out" hahaha ;)
You are intimidated by me, evident by your refusal to fight me, and the reason why I insult you so much and am so hard on you generally is to show that I can basically say anything I want to you and you won't do shit about it. I can insult your mother, your family, humiliate your honor and you will still keep the pseudo-cool facade like you're not getting offended, when deep down you're hurt, all because you believe that cursing is melting down and somehow it would make you lose the argument, when in reality you have already lost it.(what kind of man lets another man insult his mother like this? Dude, you are pathetic, and I mean this honestly. :-\).
you have been melting down over my posts for 4 years now so clearly you think my posts are quite interesting 8)
Your mother is still licking the stains of shit mixed with spooge and piss on the floor of the gloryhole. She is the janitor there but she prefers to use her tongue rather than than disenfectant because, hey, she can combine work with play! ;D How is that for a meltdown? For how much longer will you continue to take this abuse from me while pretending like you're cool with it?
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You sad child...I have been actually 310 lbs with average bodyfat. I used to sauce hardcore, and I am almost 6'5 tall. So once again, you talk out of your ass.
sad child? i thought i was 45 years old and at 6'5 you are still a fatass ;)
Because fags who call others fat on internet bodybuilding message boards are usually unemployed 45 year-old losers. The fact that you won't post a picture of yourself only reinforces my suspicion and indicates that I am probably right. ;)
you called me fat too so you admit to being 45 and unemployed and a fag for not posting a pic yourself?
until you post your pics for mr. getbig you are fat homo, according to your "genius" logic :-*
Don't flatter yourself, retard. I registered here to correct you on something you wrote, and I was successful in that you didn't post in that thread again - from what I recall. ;)
then technically you did register because of me stupid ::)
my post that you felt the need to "correct" made you go from a browser to a poster
wouldn't you say that it was a mistake for you to register? i've caused you to meltdown to the point that you want to murder me, not good for a fat man's blood pressure :P
And it goes to show what a fag you are that you boast about the fact that you bitched out from fighting me. Lol...you need to be a complete fucking coward with no personal dignity to feel proud over running away from a challenge. ;)
when exactly did i bitch out and when exactly did you challenge me? stop making up things as you go along, it only shows me what a weak turd you truly are
you never actually challenged me, you just claimed in typical loser internet tough guy fashion that you would beat me up if you saw me in person which you know would never happen because you are euro trash and i am an american
You are intimidated by me, evident by your refusal to fight me, and the reason why I insult you so much and am so hard on you generally is to show that I can basically say anything I want to you and you won't do shit about it. I can insult your mother, your family, humiliate your honor and you will still keep the pseudo-cool facade like you're not getting offended, when deep down you're hurt, all because you believe that cursing is melting down and somehow it would make you lose the argument, when in reality you have already lost it.(what kind of man lets another man insult his mother like this? Dude, you are pathetic, and I mean this honestly. :-\).
again you never challenged me and i never refused, stop making things up you weak turd :P
i get "insulted" here every day by getbiggers and "insult" them right back
it's all in good fun, what your simple mind fails to understand is that this is the internet and internet words do not hurt secure, confident, and successful people ;)
oh and saying you had sex with my mom isn't something that would get me angry, it shows what a childish loser you are and only a person with a 4th grade mentality would be hurt by such childish comments :-*
Your mother is still licking the stains of shit mixed with spooge and piss on the floor of the gloryhole. She is the janitor there but she prefers to use her tongue rather than than disenfectant because, hey, she can combine work with play! ;D How is that for a meltdown? For how much longer will you continue to take this abuse from me while pretending like you're cool with it?q
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ouch you told me, good thing you aren't in front of me or else i might kill you ;)
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Some one explain # 2 & #4 to me.
All these years Arnold claims to brought up his calves by training them more (almost everyday) & by training them heavier.
Bob never won an Olympia title...but contradicts the champ
There have been 11 “champs” (Mr. Olympia winners) and no two of them train exactly the same. So, which one is Chicerillo contradicting?
When Yates ruled the roost, it was all about Heavy-Duty (or a slight offshoot of that) training. Upon Coleman’s ascension, the training protocol du jour became simply lifting “heavy-@$$ weight”
Now that Cutler is the man, we see more emphasis on “blood-volume” training.
Chick’s not winning the Olympia has little to do with the matter, as other men have won that title, WITHOUT training exactly as Coleman does.