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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: bb.comscribe on July 14, 2008, 11:31:58 PM
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Spoke to Nasser recently and he had some comments to share about Andreas Muentzer (see below). Nasser also has an alternative explaination for Andreas' death which will be disclosed in due course.
Hello David,
Thank you for that link to "THE STACK " of Andreas Muenzer.
As I have told you before, I PERSONALLY read the drug combos Andréa's Muenzer took.
They were all clearly outlined in his "books " which I was allowed to access in 2001.
I had many hours’ time to study them.
For the part that said Andy took most of these listed drugs, I can say, " YES ".
But also I have to say that 95% of all other bodybuilders, regardless whether they are amateur or pro do similar things or exactly the same thing.
By "the same" I do mean the variety of the drugs, but not necessarily 100% the same ridiculous amounts - with a few exceptions, which I do not want to discuss at this point in time. So, no one should be acting surprised.
And please David, forget the dumb pumpkin heads from all kinds of the different bodybuilding boards who are making statements, assuming things, fabricating "facts” and so on. But I am tired of hearing the "voice of experts" who have the bodies of garbage bags and who are full of gloating jealousy and envy.
Andreas’ death, Benaziza’s death…and the (severe) health problems of others gives even the 150 LB guy in the local gym the excuse "not to want to look like that".
Coming back to the stack. The amounts that Andreas took are totally exaggerated. The guy who criticized "The Spiegel" is absolutely right on. Also, it is correct that Andy - like any other IFBB pro (and competitive NPC amateur) - was using Insulin and Thyroid hormones. And indeed " STH " = GH. I do remember that I did not find any info about the use of EPO by Muenzer in the Muenzer books. If something happened to Cutler (current Mr. Olympia), every one of the " experts " would say: " Yeah man, we knew it, it was too much what Jay took. He was a crazy MF*** who gave his life away for a ("plastic") trophy .He looked great but he is dead." It does not mean that the guy who dies or died took the most drugs. Also it does not mean that the guy who is "still alive" took "much less". Personally I think that a lot of internet warriors/ bodybuilding site "experts" - despite their "kudos", "sorry statements", do like and love the fact that bodybuilders are being physically sick, had gotten sick or that some had even died. One reason is the aforementioned envy/jealousy of them and it also gives them the excuse to train not as hard, less intense and less consistently even without any use of any anabolics or any bodybuilding related drugs. So they can justify looking bad or even justify having a garbage bag body.
Did any of the losers from the diverse internet sites ever take into consideration the fact that some people have a disposition for certain occurring health issues or maybe have an ulcer problem, a pancreas problem? - And if you neglect going to the doctor for months because you have such a strict workout regiment and you are buried in other work activities, that you then could possibly and most likely neglect health - without the use of EPO - or that your health can deteriorate additionally because of lack of fats and sleep, the lack of recuperation time and that you can develop internal bleeding just through a combination of Aspirin and some other "normal drugs"?!
I am not saying that steroids are just candy, but Andreas Muenzer’s death is not purely related to being an irresponsible "drug user" and chemical freak. Otherwise, MANY other bodybuilders on the NPC and IFBB stages should have been dead by now.
By the way, if people like to have first hand info on EPO, they should ask a Tour de France cyclist or simply ask Kenny Wheeler.
Thank you David!
Nasser El Sonbaty
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Nasser isn't important anymore. Hope that helps.
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Nasser isn't never was important anymore and now his is just a big fucking idiot still living in the 1990's as a runner up whiner. Hope that helps.
Fixed.
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Wow this is gold, glad to see Nasser is BACK bitches!! Good interview, and Nasser thanks for your words on this topic.
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Coming from the bloated windbag that is nasser that's pretty funny.
How does he explain his health issues caused by multiple drug cocktails? The fact that he has undergone multiple surgeries with more on the horizon? The fact that he had to pull out from the Olympia due to health issues that also prompted his retirement?
Isn't nasser the moron who recommends steroids for depression? ::). Probably trying to justify his own behavior.
The fact that he rants about "internet warriors" is laughable considering he is lurking around getbig under a pseudo name because he doesn't have the guts to post under his real name unlike his nemesis Sarcev He gets other people to post his bullshit because he's too cowardly to post under his own name.
We are tired of hearing the "voice" of nasser who spends most of his time living in the past and attacking his former friends because they became more successful than him.
Whatever happened to that book you were working on David? Never finished it did ya?
Nasser is a never-was reduced to selling his worn clothes and begging for airfare for expos - when he's not doing private posing sessions for schmoes.
Pumpkinheads????. I think Nasser has spent too much time reading the wizard of Oz. Not too suprising considering he's living in a delusional fantasyland of his own making
DCN = Delusional Coward Nasser ;D
Is he now trying to start a feud with Flex Wheeler?
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Nasser seems honest on this one.
Props to an ex-legend.
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Nasser seems honest on this one.
Props to an ex-legend.
a legend in his own mind maybe.
A wifebeating attention-whore in reality.
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a legend in his own mind maybe.
A wifebeating attention-whore in reality.
I've seen the "half-facts" but given the way get twisted very fast in California, especially here in San Diego County, I give the beast benefit of the doubt.
Wouldn't you?
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That was a better article by Nasser. At first i thought Nasser was going to say shit about Andreas like "he was a dumb-ass, etc etc" but he didn't, which is good. Good to see Nasser setting some people straight about the facts of what happened to Andreas.
BTW, i hope Nasser starts a feud with Flex ;D
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I've seen the "half-facts" but given the way get twisted very fast in California, especially here in San Diego County, I give the beast benefit of the doubt.
Wouldn't you?
No
Given Nasser's history of ax grinding I wouldn't be surprised if he is using the Munzer story as a route to start slamming on some of his ex-colleagues again. He hasn't gotten any attention recently since he became a running joke on getbig and other boards. He already brought up Flex Wheeler.so he may be trying to stir the pot again with some more interviews.Lets hope not - there's enough bullshit circulating around already :D
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No
Given Nasser's history of ax grinding I wouldn't be surprised if he is using the Munzer story as a route to start slamming on some of his ex-colleagues again. He hasn't gotten any attention recently since he became a running joke on getbig and other boards. He already brought up Flex Wheeler.so he may be trying to stir the pot again with some more interviews.Lets hope not - there's enough bullshit circulating around already :D
Why not? Flex is a dick-head...
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When is his book coming out?
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Why not? Flex is a dick-head...
I concur- wheeler is a jackass so I'm not defending him. i'm just tired of nassers bullshit agendas and exaggerated "facts"
This is one of Robsons ploys to get nasser discussed on getbig again. He's trying to ramp up for nassers 'alternative" explanation. His previous attempt failed when nasser was laughed at and mocked by getbig.
Last time Robson asked if we want more Nasser interviews and Getbig unanimously told him to "fuck off". He's been absent until now
Give it up Robson- Nasser is now the laughing stock of getbig. You can shine that turd all you want but it still remains a turd. :D
Nassers book has been under "production" by David Robson.
No publisher will bother with it so it'll end up being a ebook
if it ever gets done - which it won't ;D
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I concur- wheeler is a jackass so I'm not defending him. i'm just tired of nassers bullshit agendas and exaggerated "facts"
Nassers book has been under "production" by David Robson.
No publisher will bother with it so it'll end up being a ebook
That's if it ever gets done - which it won't ;D
Yeah the book won't ever happen.
But some of the stuff Nasser says is interesting. I thought it was pretty mean of Nasser to totally humilate Kovacs for no reason, but other than that, some of the stuff is funny. I dunno if its all true, but its somewhat interesting...
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What does team nasser have to say about this?
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Alot of people post here refering to Nassers "multiple surgeries" , does anyone know what hes been under the knife for? just curious
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Yeah the book won't ever happen.
But some of the stuff Nasser says is interesting. I thought it was pretty mean of Nasser to totally humilate Kovacs for no reason, but other than that, some of the stuff is funny. I dunno if its all true, but its somewhat interesting...
Funny - yes
.....but these are the people that were nassers friends - milos/ray/kovacs etc.. People who he used to associate with and suck up to when he was competing and now once he was forced into retirement and they are still active in the industry he feels the need to tear them down. Sour grapes anyone?
There is something very despicable about a man who backstabs his (former)friends - in a public forum no less. If he has problems with them - confront them and deal with it. He's too cowardly for that so he hides behind his lackeys. Lets not forget that he orchestrated the nasser spamming on getbig while pretending he had no idea what was happening. Once his secret PM to team nasser was posted everyone became aware of his pathetic "wargames".
Very unprofessional and childlike.
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Coming from the bloated windbag that is nasser that's pretty funny.
How does he explain his health issues caused by multiple drug cocktails? The fact that he has undergone multiple surgeries with more on the horizon? The fact that he had to pull out from the Olympia due to health issues that also prompted his retirement?
Isn't nasser the moron who recommends steroids for depression? ::). Probably trying to justify his own behavior.
The fact that he rants about "internet warriors" is laughable considering he is lurking around getbig under a pseudo name because he doesn't have the guts to post under his real name unlike his nemesis Sarcev He gets other people to post his bullshit because he's too cowardly to post under his own name.
We are tired of hearing the "voice" of nasser who spends most of his time living in the past and attacking his former friends because they became more successful than him.
Whatever happened to that book you were working on David? Never finished it did ya?
Nasser is a never-was reduced to selling his worn clothes and begging for airfare for expos - when he's not doing private posing sessions for schmoes.
Pumpkinheads????. I think Nasser has spent too much time reading the wizard of Oz. Not too suprising considering he's living in a delusional fantasyland of his own making
DCN = Delusional Coward Nasser ;D
Is he now trying to start a feud with Flex Wheeler?
You make me laugh my son,,,,,you are the intnet warrior that talked about you think you know everything under son, but yet know nothin of anything typical day four you is this,,,,,,,
-get up look getbig
-look up steroids on net
-come back getbig talk steroids
-say i took Xxx,,,,amount
-go to gossip see if gh15 post today for avice
-take break come later,,,,,
u r a foo my son,,,reality chek
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You make me laugh my son,,,,,you are the intnet warrior that talked about you think you know everything under son, but yet know nothin of anything typical day four you is this,,,,,,,
-get up look getbig
-look up steroids on net
-come back getbig talk steroids
-say i took Xxx,,,,amount
-go to gossip see if gh15 post today for avice
-take break come later,,,,,
u r a foo my son,,,reality chek
Sorry dad
I've never passed judgment on steroids and BBing. Nor have i attacked anyone for taking them. If you want to take steroids or any other drug that's up to you - I could care less.
Neither do I have a favorite BB that I have an emotional attachment with and defend constantly. I'm here for laughs and don't take getbig as seriously as you do
By the way - you need to work on your spelling....dad ;D
There's YOUR reality check 8)
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Alot of people post here refering to Nassers "multiple surgeries" , does anyone know what hes been under the knife for? just curious
Google around - you'll find nassers interviews that detail his numerous surgeries. There have been a number of pre/post surgery pics of nasser posted on getbig as well.
........................ .or contact Pepe (Nasser's assistant) ;D
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If I want to know about aas, I will ask candizzle.
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Brutal attempt at trying to keep your name in the spotlight when no one gives a shit !!
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Brutal attempt at trying to keep your name in the spotlight when no one gives a shit !!
Exactly.
Enough is enough
Good post.
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bodybuilding for a long time has been chemical warfare, hence it is not a sport.....
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bodybuilding for a long time has been chemical warfare, hence it is not a sport.....
Depends on how you define a sport.
Is it sporting to see how far you can push your body using the right combination of drugs, training and genetics to beat the other guy in a "beauty/freak" contest for the enjoyment of a mostly gay audience?
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i respect that dread!
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Nasser - thanks for sharing your views. Its great to hear from someone who clearly knows the scene, knows who did what, and had the physique to prove it! I have way more respect for your comments than I do of some of the "arm chair" experts on this site, some of whom have probably never even really even been around or met a hard core bodybuilder (and all that goes with the that lifestyle).
Either way, it is very unfortunate what happened to Muntzer. I really do appreciate your comments, insights, and views. Keep em coming.
On a related note (and this is probably a topic for a seperate thread), I would be very interested to hear the real story from an insider behind the US athlete FloJo. One day, someone will speak up and give us all the details I expect...
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Nasser - thanks for sharing your views. Its great to hear from someone who clearly knows the scene, knows who did what, and had the physique to prove it! I have way more respect for your comments than I do of some of the "arm chair" experts on this site, some of whom have probably never even really even been around or met a hard core bodybuilder (and all that goes with the that lifestyle).
Either way, it is very unfortunate what happened to Muntzer. I really do appreciate your comments, insights, and views. Keep em coming.
On a related note (and this is probably a topic for a seperate thread), I would be very interested to hear the real story from an insider behind the US athlete FloJo. One day, someone will speak up and give us all the details I expect...
yo nasser whats up...
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thank u nasser
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(http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/7/15/f_notthisshitm_f112379.jpg)
Nasser is more interested in ridiculing his former friends and lamenting about his past to provide an actual UNBIASED opinion on the industry.
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"forget the dumb pumpkin heads from all kinds of the different bodybuilding boards who are making statements, assuming things, fabricating "facts” and so on. But I am tired of hearing the "voice of experts" who have the bodies of garbage bags and who are full of gloating jealousy and envy."
I wonder who Nasser is addressing here? Team Pumpkinhead ASSEMBLE! Full review on the parade ground in 5 minutes! :)
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bahahaha - Nasser delievers.
Thx - cool read
p.s.: sorry, Team Nasser still sucks
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Andreas was great. I'd rather have seen Nasser die at his place.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Andreas%20Munzer/AndreasMunzer22.jpg)
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I see nasser got bored not being able to post as GH15 and found another way to make it to the boards ::)
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I see nasser got bored not being able to post as GH15 and found another way to make it to the boards ::)
dude if you havent realized yet that Nasser's English and gh15s are different you are beyond any help....
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I've seen the "half-facts" but given the way get twisted very fast in California, especially here in San Diego County, I give the beast benefit of the doubt.
Wouldn't you?
I worked out in the same gym as nasser and Nasser is an idiot-well known fact. No one liked the guy-and his reputation here is about the same-the majority think he is an ass clown.
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I worked out in the same gym as nasser and Nasser is an idiot-well known fact. No one liked the guy-and his reputation here is about the same-the majority think he is an ass clown.
yeah but then again no one thinks much of you.
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Hello getbiggers. Some of you might not like Nasser and that is okay, but if you put aside your hatred for one moment you might find some interesting insights in what he says. Muentzer's death has been speculated about for some time and, as far as I can tell, nobody really seems to know the full story on what happened and the events leading up to his death. Since Nasser knew Andreas he, at least to my mind, is someone that could bring some light to the issue. How many pros, or ex pros, are willing to share their views in an open forum like this one? Take care. David.
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Hello getbiggers. Some of you might not like Nasser and that is okay, but if you put aside your hatred for one moment you might find some interesting insights in what he says. Muentzer's death has been speculated about for some time and, as far as I can tell, nobody really seems to know the full story on what happened and the events leading up to his death. Since Nasser knew Andreas he, at least to my mind, is someone that could bring some light to the issue. How many pros, or ex pros, are willing to share their views in an open forum like this one? Take care. David.
thank u david for keeping us here informed from nasser
thats a great pic btw
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no problem naturalwonder
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Why do people act like it's a big mystery? It's the diuretics thats are kill people. It pulls all the water out of your blood and makes it as thick as mud.
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the whole article was off....like Nass's brain
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Nasser
the wizard of truth
once again telling it like it is.................warts and all.................obvi ously many dont like to hear the truth................the truth about THe BB industry
but Nasser is not afraid of telling it like it is
Nasser- we salute u!
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Andreas was great. I'd rather have seen Nasser die at his place.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Andreas%20Munzer/AndreasMunzer22.jpg)
Johnny Falcon like conditioning and understanding
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Why do people act like it's a big mystery? It's the diuretics thats are kill people. It pulls all the water out of your blood and makes it as thick as mud.
Diuretics caused internal bleeding?
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Thanks gh.
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imagine the hoes that dude would pull walking into a bar with that level of rippedness.
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Johnny Falcon like conditioning and understanding
LOL
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Getbig has more intrigue going on than the bold and the beautiful and days of our lives combined, maybe if more housewives knew there just wouldnt just be overweight guys with no lives or jobs posting here but the female versions as well ;D
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Hello getbiggers. Some of you might not like Nasser and that is okay, but if you put aside your hatred for one moment you might find some interesting insights in what he says. Muentzer's death has been speculated about for some time and, as far as I can tell, nobody really seems to know the full story on what happened and the events leading up to his death. Since Nasser knew Andreas he, at least to my mind, is someone that could bring some light to the issue. How many pros, or ex pros, are willing to share their views in an open forum like this one? Take care. David.
Hello David
I don't think Getbig would be interested in Nassers version of the truth. Nasser wasn't the only one that knew Andreas. I don't think his death is some Sherlock Holmes mystery. He wasn't murdered or died under mysterious circumstances. I 'm sure nasser's "facts" are speculation rather than the real facts.. If so we'll pass. Unless his facts can be verified they remain an opinion. There's enough controversy going around without Nasser adding more bullshit to the pot as he's been known to do in the past.
I don't think this is about Munzer - this is more likely nasser trying to throw dirt on some of his former colleagues while trying to "explain" Munzers death. . Who is his target this time? Wheeler? Yates? Levrone?
Thanks but no thanks David.
Please deliver this message to nasser:
"I am tired of hearing the "voice of Nasser" who is an expert in his own mind and has the body of bloated garbage bag and who is full of gloating jealousy and envy towards his former colleagues."
:D
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i never thought nasser could string a sentence together i dont think he wrote this, he may have got the person he is beating to type it for him...
wife beating pile of oily shit ;D
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I wonder who Nasser is addressing here? Team Pumpkinhead ASSEMBLE! Full review on the parade ground in 5 minutes! :)
I second that - call to arms.
Team pumpkinhead - TRANSFORM and Roll out.
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Nasser Stories are entertaining. Dreadlord crying through a whole thread about how bad of a person Nasser is is annoying.
We get it, you dont like Nasser, now go slit your writs and dont read anymore of Nassers stories.
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aww...ain't that cute
Another nasser troll surfaces.
Why don't you go order some nasserwear and wipe away your tears
The party is just getting started.
Buckle up
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Nasser isn't important anymore. Hope that helps.
I agree...and so does Chick!
I don't know if he belongs to any other federation. I do know he is a FORMER IFBB pro...he hasn't had a card in probably 2 years if not 3. He uses the tag ine just like a former champion uses a title...Mr USA, Mr Olympia, etc....
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Thankyou so much David. Please give or love and support to Nasser and tell him that we aren't all bottom debris with garbage bag bodies (like the pumpkinheads). We love to see his wit and superior intelligence being used when he thrills us with his insight.
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This is what sharma wants to convey
Fuck you so very much David. Please give our manlove and financial support to Nasser and tell him that we his fans are all bottom debris with garbage bag bodies (unlike the pumpkinheads). We love to see his stupidity being used - even when he horrifies us with his cowardly antics
Sharma".
Thanks for reminding us to laugh at Nasser, "
Nothing brightens up a day like some old fashioned nasser bashing. ;D
Thanks again and please stop by moire often
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HAHAHAHA How funny and sad it is to see the same lonely, isolated and unpopular souls sitting at their computer night after night, obsessed with Nasser. Any mention of his name and they all are there , like a moth to the light. Proof that Nasser owns minds like no other bodybuilder.
And what for the sad, lonely pumpkinhead? Yet another jobless day and lonely night with no friends or company..just thoughts of proud Nasser circulating through their mind as they try to blot out thoughts about the pathetic failure that is their life and body HAHAHAHA ;D
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Andreas was x1695261467889754631 times the bodybuilder Nasshole Hell of a Syntholbody was.
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Sharma is absolutely correct here
the no- life pumpkinhead internet warrior Nasser haters
hating the Great Nasser but obsessed with him so much that any talk about Nasser controls them like nothing else
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Sharma is absolutely correct here
the no- life pumpkinhead internet warrior Nasser haters
hating the Great Nasser but obsessed with him so much that any talk about Nasser controls them like nothing else
I'm willing to bet that somewhere around 95% of Sharma's posts are about Nasser. Epic obsession. He even buys his soiled panties.
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Sharma is absolutely correct here
the no- life pumpkinhead internet warrior Nasser haters
hating the Great Nasser but obsessed with him so much that any talk about Nasser controls them like nothing else
Ugh, more pro-nasser gimmicks. Give it a rest guys, Nasser has PROVEN himself to be a classless piece of back-stabbing, lying shit. Period, end of story.
Team Nasser was owned straight out of here for being the joke of GetBig, and in the graveyard they shall stay.
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HAHAHAHA How funny and sad it is to see the same lonely, isolated and unpopular souls sitting at their computer night after night, obsessed with Nasser. Any mention of his name and they all are there , like a moth to the light. Proof that Nasser owns minds like no other bodybuilder.
And what for the sad, lonely pumpkinhead? Yet another jobless day and lonely night with no friends or company..just thoughts of proud Nasser circulating through their mind as they try to blot out thoughts about the pathetic failure that is their life and body HAHAHAHA ;D
hell yeah sharma-awesome awesome post...hahahahha youre right its the same pathetic computer nerds that come on here all day and night and slander nassers good name...this dreadlord cat seems completely obsessed w/ nasser and the team...thank u for saying what needed to be said my friend
nasser el sonbaty
the name alone screams perfection
300lbs with abs
perfect symmetry
movie star good looks
intelligent beyond belief
uncrowned mr olympia
the best there is, was, ever will be
team nasser 08
bigger stronger faster
feel the love generation
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hell yeah sharma-awesome awesome post...hahahahha youre right its the same pathetic computer nerds that come on here all day and night and slander nassers good name...this dreadlord cat seems completely obsessed w/ nasser and the team...thank u for saying what needed to be said my friend
nasser el sonbaty
the name alone screams perfection the name alone screams terrorism
300lbs with abs <- tru
perfect symmetry <- half tru
movie star good looks terrorist look
intelligent beyond belief poor terrorist
uncrowned mr olympia a loser not wanting to admit he sucked big times
the best there is, was, ever will be arnold, coleman, etc etc etc ...oh yeah maybe nasser el terrorist
team nasser 08 team terrorists 08
bigger stronger faster
feel the love generation
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HAHAHAHA How funny and sad it is to see the same lonely, isolated and unpopular souls sitting at their computer night after night, obsessed with Nasser.
Very true - How do you pathetic nasser panty sniffers live with yourself? Some like natfag83 are so desperate for attention that he posts the most ludicrously childish and gay posts to date.
Then again natfag83 failed to accomplish his life's dream and now sits in a roach infested apt with his lifes partner Dong. His shame so apparent to everyone.
Ha ha ha
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Good post benz
You forgot Nassers multiple surgeries and his dependence on latent homos like naturalfag83 for the sales of his soiled underwear and G4P dvd's
:D
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Good post benz
You forgot Nassers multiple surgeries and his dependence on latent homos like naturalfag83 for the sales of his soiled underwear and G4P dvd's
:D
NASSER EL G4P ;D
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Ugh, more pro-nasser gimmicks. Give it a rest guys, Nasser has PROVEN himself to be a classless piece of back-stabbing, lying shit. Period, end of story.
Team Nasser was owned straight out of here for being the joke of GetBig, and in the graveyard they shall stay.
Half of that shit was trolling
Some people still haven't got the memo sadly.
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Half of that shit was trolling
Some people still haven't got the memo sadly.
No problemo CJ - you and mariachi are in the clear.
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Andreas was great. I'd rather have seen Nasser die at his place.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Andreas%20Munzer/AndreasMunzer22.jpg)
That's freakin beyond shredded. :o