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Title: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: headhuntersix on July 16, 2008, 08:10:05 AM
The BBC reports that the first Gitmo interrogation video has been released. The detainee in the video is Omar Khadr, a Canadian who was captured following a firefight in Afghanistan and is accused of murdering a U.S. soldier. Khadr was 16 at the time of his interrogation.

He says repeatedly: "You don't care about me."

"Well, I do care about you...," says the interrogator, who appears to be the fiercest guidance counselor in all of North America.

After a couple minutes of listening to Khadr's sobbing, the interrogator says: "Take a break. Have a little bit to eat before your hamburger gets cold. All right? Relax a bit."

Khadr has accused the United States of torturing him, but he clearly appears to be delusional. At one point, Khadr says: "I lost my eyes. I lost my feet. Everything!"

"No, you still have your eyes and your feet are still at the end of your legs, you know," replies the interrogator.

Khadr's lawyer told the Toronto Star: "I hope Canadians will be outraged to see the callous and disgraceful treatment of a Canadian youth."

You can watch the whole video--and see just how "callous and disgraceful" Khadr's treatment was--here.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: youandme on July 16, 2008, 08:24:48 AM
Canadians outraged?

Sure let's ship him back to Canada to blow their crap up.

He was picked up during a battle in Afghanistan.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 16, 2008, 09:49:36 AM
but ozmo said the guys at gitmo were innocent ??? im so confused
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Dos Equis on July 16, 2008, 11:13:24 AM
After a couple minutes of listening to Khadr's sobbing, the interrogator says: "Take a break. Have a little bit to eat before your hamburger gets cold. All right? Relax a bit."


Torture American style.   ::)
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: youandme on July 16, 2008, 12:21:18 PM
Torture American style.   ::)

Brings in some huge legalty issues. What if the kid gets fat eating hamburgers in club gitmo?

Another McDonald's fiasco.

Has anyone ever seen the meals prisoners at gitmo recieve?
Huge 5 course meals, while soldiers of the united states eat out of plastic serving portions.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 16, 2008, 12:53:30 PM
Wonder if he was crying as was in the middle of a battlefield throwing grenades at US special forces?  ???
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Deedee on July 16, 2008, 07:02:08 PM
Of course those interrogators were polite... those were the Canadian officials who came for a visit.  ;D

He said "you don't care about me" because he thought they were there to take him home.

And no, Canadians back home weren't outraged at all.   

That being said, what's the point of keeping him there for so long  After a few years, what info or up-to-the-minute news could he have to give them?  Why not just try him and either lock him up or execute him?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Dos Equis on July 16, 2008, 07:13:22 PM
Or just continue to give him cheeseburgers.   ::)
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 16, 2008, 07:34:10 PM
Of course those interrogators were polite... those were the Canadian officials who came for a visit.  ;D

He said "you don't care about me" because he thought they were there to take him home.

And no, Canadians back home weren't outraged at all.   

That being said, what's the point of keeping him there for so long  After a few years, what info or up-to-the-minute news could he have to give them?  Why not just try him and either lock him up or execute him?
wtf does it matter this piece of tried killed american soldiers and if i remember correctly did...he is lucky that he is still alive, this guy should be strapped to the side of a humvee and used as a human shield.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Nordic Superman on July 17, 2008, 04:51:45 AM
Wonder if he was crying as was in the middle of a battlefield throwing grenades at US special forces?  ???

Lefties, what's you take on this, was he crying when he was throwing grenades that led the the death of an American soldier?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 19, 2008, 06:26:33 AM

HH6, does it make you feel like a big strong man to poke fun of a crying child?
...a child whose guards & interrogators at Guantanamo call "a good kid" (their words not mine)

Lefties, what's you take on this, was he crying when he was throwing grenades that led the the death of an American soldier?

I wonder what you or anyone else would do if they woke up one day to find foreign chinese invaders attacking you in your home. Who among you would not fight to protect your home and drive the invader out?

...or would you simply acquiesce and appease the invader who violated the sanctity of your home or would you fight back? Does defending the four walls of your house make you a terrorist?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Nordic Superman on July 19, 2008, 08:24:24 AM
I wonder what you or anyone else would do if they woke up one day to find foreign chinese invaders attacking you in your home. Who among you would not fight to protect your home and drive the invader out?

...or would you simply acquiesce and appease the invader who violated the sanctity of your home or would you fight back? Does defending the four walls of your house make you a terrorist?

I thought this kid was Canadian, not an Afghanistan? Moron ::)

Never the less this story highlights islam as the core ideology for terrorism.

Man non ethnic-Afghans have been found in Afghan for one reason alone: islamic jihad, and the requirement for all muslims when possible to undertake it.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 19, 2008, 08:27:31 AM
HH6, does it make you feel like a big strong man to poke fun of a crying child?
...a child whose guards & interrogators at Guantanamo call "a good kid" (their words not mine)

I wonder what you or anyone else would do if they woke up one day to find foreign chinese invaders attacking you in your home. Who among you would not fight to protect your home and drive the invader out?

...or would you simply acquiesce and appease the invader who violated the sanctity of your home or would you fight back? Does defending the four walls of your house make you a terrorist?
LOL your justifications know no limits do they jag, oh thats right except when it comes to the US. If im not mistaken this kid is from canada and went over there to fight so your scenario does not apply. If some of my fellow country man killed and mamed innocent civilians on the basis religion or beliefs it is my belief that these people would be rooted out and delt with by our own government.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Nordic Superman on July 19, 2008, 08:28:51 AM
LOL your justifications know no limits do they jag, oh thats right except when it comes to the US. If im not mistaken this kid is from canada and went over there to fight so your scenario does not apply. If some of my fellow country man killed and mamed innocent civilians on the basis religion or beliefs it is my belief that these people would be rooted out and delt with by our own government.

Arguing with someone with a 160 IQ is mundane dear comrade.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 19, 2008, 08:55:08 AM
Guys, I'm sure Jaguar knows this kid personally, sold him gas caps and can justify his reason for being on an Afghanistan battlefield thousands of miles from Canada to the fact that he was researching a paper for high school. He's COMPLETELY innocent and took a wrong turn at Nova Scotia and ended up in the middle of a jihadist war!
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: chafed_nut_sack420 on July 19, 2008, 11:11:01 AM
HH6, does it make you feel like a big strong man to poke fun of a crying child?
...a child whose guards & interrogators at Guantanamo call "a good kid" (their words not mine)

I wonder what you or anyone else would do if they woke up one day to find foreign chinese invaders attacking you in your home. Who among you would not fight to protect your home and drive the invader out?

...or would you simply acquiesce and appease the invader who violated the sanctity of your home or would you fight back? Does defending the four walls of your house make you a terrorist?

It's obvious that no one on this board knows the kids history.

 His father was the one that sent him over there, (Afghanistan) and filled his head with anti American sentiment, the father should be charged with child abuse. The kids family is a bit fucked but I also understand why they are pissed off, with their country being occupied and all, something some people just can't seem to wrap their head around, even when you ask them to do a role reversal.

He may be Canadian but his roots are from elsewhere, they want America out of their country of origin and just as Americans feel entitled to kill people over there for their gain, I don't find it unreasonable that the Afghani's would want to defend their country by any means possible, even if it means killing.

He's been there for 5 years and under his circumstance, isn't completely responsible for his actions, his father takes most of the blame for exposing a kid to all the evils of a mans war. I couldnt imagine being his age and finding myself in that hell hole and then in prison, possibly being tortured. I feel for him, but the father can rot for exposing his kid to that.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: youandme on July 19, 2008, 11:17:39 AM
I feel for him, but the father can rot for exposing his kid to that.

Then you should be sent their as well.

Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: chafed_nut_sack420 on July 19, 2008, 11:20:49 AM
Then you should be sent their as well.



I should be sent their, huh?

You should be sent to school.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: youandme on July 19, 2008, 11:55:55 AM
I should be sent their, huh?

You should be sent to school.

You going to cry now, like your buddy?

Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: youandme on July 19, 2008, 11:58:24 AM
Americans feel entitled to kill people over there for their gain, I don't find it unreasonable that the Afghani's would want to defend their country by any means possible, even if it means killing.

1) He was not Afghan, he was "canadian" according to some
2) He was not defending his country
3) He killed a US soldier

You need to be sent to Gitmo, maybe we can let you do a naked pyramid, if you behave so you and your buddies  get your jollies off.

"Americans feel entitled to kill people over there for their gain" I forgot the soldiers get paid for kill shots  ::)

Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 19, 2008, 12:17:09 PM
It's obvious that no one on this board knows the kids history.

 His father was the one that sent him over there, (Afghanistan) and filled his head with anti American sentiment, the father should be charged with child abuse. The kids family is a bit fucked but I also understand why they are pissed off, with their country being occupied and all, something some people just can't seem to wrap their head around, even when you ask them to do a role reversal.
First off his country was CANADA not Afghanistan...LOL you want us to feel sorry for this piece of shit?  :o ::) LOL wow you must walk around 24/7 with a bleeding heart. AGAIN this dude deserves nothing less than to be strapped to the side of a Humvee and used as a human shield. Lets reverse roles for you numbnut, your wife, kids, friend, relatives are killed in an explosion not for murdering someone, not for committing some heinous crime NO just for showing up to work one morning!!! wheres your bleeding heart for these folks?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Dos Equis on July 19, 2008, 12:29:22 PM
Exclusive photo of one of our detainees being tortured:

(http://blog.lib.umn.edu/vond0057/architecture/images/cheeseburger.jpg)
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 19, 2008, 01:00:12 PM
Of course the retards on this forum are trying to paint this kid as innocent. Last I checked, Canada is a free country. He chose to go to Afghanistan to wage Jihad, his family chose to support Al Qaeda while living in the west, and he chose to lob that grenade that killed a member of our military. I'm disgusted that he's treated as well as he is at Gitmo. If the roles were reversed, he would've been beheaded years ago.....after being tortured repeatedly of course.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: youandme on July 19, 2008, 02:26:34 PM
Exclusive photo of one of our detainees being tortured:

(http://blog.lib.umn.edu/vond0057/architecture/images/cheeseburger.jpg)

It will be hard for that guy to finish it, it looks like he had 3 drinks before he started on the burger.

The guys at Gitmo want these trials, but like a former CIA chief stated; once convicted where they are going to be sent off to, is going to make Gitmo look like a luxury stay at a hotel. They will be sent to places (not in the U.S according to him) where it stays pitch black 24/7 and they can forget about prayer time.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 19, 2008, 02:45:57 PM
I thought this kid was Canadian, not an Afghanistan? Moron ::)

He is Canadian. His mother lives in Toronto, his father who was quite a controversial figure lived in Afghanistan.
Like many boys raised in single parent households by their mothers, was sent to Afghanistan to live with his father. Many estranged men are often encouraged to take a more active role in parenting their boys, ...especially when those boys reach puberty. My understanding is that is what the boy was doing along with his older brother who was also taken into custody at the time, and has long since been released from Guantanamo. At the time both brothers were taken custody, they were in their fathers home in Afghanistan when the US led coalition forces invaded Afghanistan.

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Never the less this story highlights islam as the core ideology for terrorism.

Not sure where you pulled that from the story, but pulling from thin air has never been unfamiliar territory for you

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Man non ethnic-Afghans have been found in Afghan for one reason alone: islamic jihad, and the requirement for all muslims when possible to undertake it.

He is an ethnic Afghan

If you're going to comment, please at least get your facts straight.

Thank You
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 19, 2008, 03:17:17 PM
LOL your justifications know no limits do they jag, oh thats right except when it comes to the US.

I'm not justifying a darn thing. I'm simply clarifying the misinformation put into this forum. Whether this insertion is  deliberate or done through ignorance, I won't speculate, other than to say it is incorrect. What do people have against the truth?

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If im not mistaken this kid is from canada and went over there to fight so your scenario does not apply.

You are mistaken. This kid is from Canada who along with his older brother went to Afghanistan to live with their father. This is a scenario similar to what we see in many families who have been impacted by divorce.

Look at the 2nd and the 3rd in line to succeed to the British throne for instance. They too are the product of a broken home whose parents divorced. The boys were primarily raised by their mother at Kensington Palace. She was their primary caregiver, ...until they approached puberty, when they began to spend more and more time with their father at Highgrove (I think that's it). They even moved in with their father to have the benefit of male parental guidance. While Omar and his older brother were in Afghanistan, they got caught in the invasion, and when soldiers came to their home with guns, they were fired upon, and they fired back.

I don't justify anything, I simply relay the facts of what happened. It is up to officials at Guantanamo and the military courts to determine whether what actions he may or may not have taken can be considered 'guilty' of anything, or whether those actions were justified or not.

I do know that Guantanamo officials previously released his older brother years ago, and that US military officials and Guantanamo jail guards have publicly stated on the record that he is "a good kid" and they felt that the longer he stayed in Guantanamo, the higher the chances of him becoming radicalized.

What does that say? It says US military prosecutors & Guantanamo jail guards do not believe him to be a radical jihadist. If he was one, there would be no room for him 'to become' one, he'd already be it. How frequently do Guantanamo officials call radical jihadists "a good kid"?

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If some of my fellow country man killed and mamed innocent civilians on the basis religion or beliefs it is my belief that these people would be rooted out and delt with by our own government.

By "Dealt with" ...do you mean 'prosecuted'? ...or do you mean given a scholarship to 'The School of the Americas' and put on the CIA payroll?" Please clarify ...your vague statement may or may not be considered accurate through any number of scenarios.  ;)
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 19, 2008, 03:24:27 PM
but ozmo said the guys at gitmo were innocent ??? im so confused

{giggle} That confusion is clearly evident in your posts.  ;)
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 19, 2008, 03:43:02 PM
First off his country was CANADA not Afghanistan...LOL you want us to feel sorry for this piece of shit?  :o ::) LOL wow you must walk around 24/7 with a bleeding heart. AGAIN this dude deserves nothing less than to be strapped to the side of a Humvee and used as a human shield. Lets reverse roles for you numbnut, your wife, kids, friend, relatives are killed in an explosion not for murdering someone, not for committing some heinous crime NO just for showing up to work one morning!!! wheres your bleeding heart for these folks?

Well I think the US government thought it was Afghanistan. When they released his older brother from Guantanamo, instead of sending him to Canada, ...they shipped him to Afghanistan.

I understand the point you're trying to make, ...despite the irony of the horrible example you post to justify your call for barbarism.

I think there are a lot of people quite angry that "their wives, kids, friends, relatives are killed in an explosion, not for murdering anyone, not for committing some heinous crime NO just for being asleep in their own bed when bombs landed on their homes in Iraq and Afghanistan."

As for bleeding hearts, They bleed for all the innocent victims of war, ...including innocent civilians caught in the melee, innocent soldiers who thought they were defending their country from a threat only to come to a different conclusion... Let's face it, it's gotta suck thinking you're one of the good guys, ...then truth & reality hits you square in the face. The psychological trauma and post traumatic stress must be hell.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 19, 2008, 03:49:49 PM
Of course the retards on this forum are trying to paint this kid as innocent. Last I checked, Canada is a free country. He chose to go to Afghanistan to wage Jihad, his family chose to support Al Qaeda while living in the west, and he chose to lob that grenade that killed a member of our military. I'm disgusted that he's treated as well as he is at Gitmo. If the roles were reversed, he would've been beheaded years ago.....after being tortured repeatedly of course.

If what you allege is true, ...then why has the US government not simply put him on trial, and be done with it?

Could it have anything to do with the judges ruling that the charges levied against him were not illegal?
Could it have something to do with the judge acknowledging that while he was a combatant, he was not an illegal combatant?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: youandme on July 19, 2008, 05:33:32 PM

Like many boys raised in single parent households by their mothers, was sent to Afghanistan to live with his father. Many estranged men are often encouraged to take a more active role in parenting their boys, ...especially when those boys reach puberty.

So this is a recurring problem in Canada, huh? You encourage boys to go to Afghanistan to blow up United States soldiers?

For what it's worth his whole families life is not worth the U.S. tax payers money in keeping this shitbag alive.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 19, 2008, 05:42:22 PM
So this is a recurring problem in Canada, huh? You encourage boys to go to Afghanistan to blow up United States soldiers?

For what it's worth his whole families life is not worth the U.S. tax payers money in keeping this shitbag alive.

{sigh} It appears reading comprehension is simply not your strong suit. That's OK.
I'm sure there are things that you can do that I'm not quite as competent in...

...like making yourself look like an utterly ignorant & bellicose fool. You got me waaaay beat in that category.

On a positive note, we do agree on one thing. We both agree that US tax payers money shouldn't be squandered.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: youandme on July 19, 2008, 05:46:34 PM
Like many boys raised in single parent households by their mothers, was sent to Afghanistan to live with his father. Many estranged men are often encouraged to take a more active role in parenting their boys, ...especially when those boys reach puberty.

Looks pretty clear cut to me.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 19, 2008, 05:58:45 PM
Like many boys raised in single parent households by their mothers, was sent to Afghanistan to live with his father. Many estranged men are often encouraged to take a more active role in parenting their boys, ...especially when those boys reach puberty.

Looks pretty clear cut to me.

Perhaps a slightly different wording would have been better for someone with such limited comprehension skills.

Like many boys raised in single parent households by their mothers, he was shuttled back & forth between 2 separate households. In his particular case, the other household happened to be in Afghanistan. Many estranged men are often encouraged to take a more active role in parenting their boys, ...especially when those boys reach puberty.

Does that particular wording make sense to you or clarify my statement to you now?

If not, please see the example I used earlier in this thread wherein I mentioned the similarities with the heirs to the British throne.

I hope this clarifies, ...if not, don't be too perturbed.
You wouldn't be the first to find yourself living in a perpetual state of ignorance.

Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: youandme on July 19, 2008, 06:39:45 PM
So now the Dad, made him throw a grenade and blow up a United States soldier?The kid is innocent and it's his mom's fault for letting him leave Canada to see his Dad? His puberty allegedl had a part in his anger against the United States? His Dad forced him to throw the grenade?
I know your hate for America runs high and you don't mind United States soldiers dying but this kid deserves the death penalty rather than being kept in jail.
And if you can try to sugarcoat the kid, with a story of pity by his parents being seperated and him having to travel now that he has reached puberty to live with his Dad in Afghanistan makes no sense! Something is terribly wrong with your reasoning skills, not my comprehension skills, I'm pointing out your ignorance for even standing up for the kid, when he killed someone - not just a someone but a United States soldier!
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 19, 2008, 10:01:39 PM
So now the Dad, made him throw a grenade and blow up a United States soldier?The kid is innocent and it's his mom's fault for letting him leave Canada to see his Dad? His puberty allegedl had a part in his anger against the United States? His Dad forced him to throw the grenade?

Where on earth did you come up with such a preposterous theory?

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I know your hate for America runs high and you don't mind United States soldiers dying but this kid deserves the death penalty rather than being kept in jail.

I don't hate America, and I don't like to see anyone dying. I'd like to see everyone living lives of peace & prosperity.
Following their dreams and the pursuit of happiness, not dying horrible deaths away from home.

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And if you can try to sugarcoat the kid, with a story of pity by his parents being seperated and him having to travel now that he has reached puberty to live with his Dad in Afghanistan makes no sense! Something is terribly wrong with your reasoning skills, not my comprehension skills, I'm pointing out your ignorance for even standing up for the kid, when he killed someone - not just a someone but a United States soldier!

The only thing I have stood up for, is the right of readers in this forum to have the truth.

I sugarcoat nothing. I paint no pitiful stories of broken homes. With the North American divorce rate at 50% if not higher, I would hardly expect people to be surprised or shocked or to exhibit inordinate amounts of sympathy. Divorce is a pretty common occurence throughout many people's lives.

I can see your emotions have reached such a fever pitch, it has blinded you to what has actually been said.  :'(

Perhaps one day after the new President is sworn in, the lies will stop and people will be able to separate fact from fiction, and be able to actually comprehend what has been said instead of hearing BS rhetoric that has been programmed into them by the fear mongerers and propaganda mills that seek to control them by keeping them in shackles and perpetually blinded by rage.

Until then, I wish you a safe & prosperous journey on your road to the clear & lucid truth. May it be a short one!

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/Freedom.jpg)


 
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Deedee on July 21, 2008, 08:43:18 AM
wtf does it matter this piece of tried killed american soldiers and if i remember correctly did...he is lucky that he is still alive, this #### should be strapped to the side of a humvee and used as a human shield.

It seems like a waste of resources to me. Military personnel could be put to better use rather than guarding these hundreds of people who've been there so long they have nothing to offer in terms of intel.

Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 21, 2008, 07:40:39 PM
It seems like a waste of resources to me. Military personnel could be put to better use rather than guarding these hundreds of people who've been there so long they have nothing to offer in terms of intel.


so true, so true...lets put two in their head and be done with it.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Tapper on July 21, 2008, 11:53:48 PM
Was there any doubt that Jag would take the side of the terrorist? Or is it simply her rabid anti-American feelings coming to the surface again? This is what makes her one of the most despised people on Getbig. Her way of debating a topic is to insult anyone who doesnt agree with her.

Oh and Canada is not a "Free country". Canadians dont have rights like Americans do, they have "privileges".(And dont go on about the Charter of Rights and Freedoms either. What a load of bollocks.)
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Nordic Superman on July 22, 2008, 03:30:10 AM
Was there any doubt that Jag would take the side of the terrorist? Or is it simply her rabid anti-American feelings coming to the surface again? This is what makes her one of the most despised people on Getbig. Her way of debating a topic is to insult anyone who doesnt agree with her.

Oh and Canada is not a "Free country". Canadians dont have rights like Americans do, they have "privileges".(And dont go on about the Charter of Rights and Freedoms either. What a load of bollocks.)

Erm, you are aware she is a moslem?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 03:36:43 AM
it's funny how all of you have no evidence that he is a jihadist but you just assume that because he's looked up he must be guilty.
The US government got it more times wrong that right, history shows that on more than one occasion, don't be to quick to condem
this teenager.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Nordic Superman on July 22, 2008, 05:34:19 AM
it's funny how all of you have no evidence that he is a jihadist but you just assume that because he's looked up he must be guilty.
The US government got it more times wrong that right, history shows that on more than one occasion, don't be to quick to condem
this teenager.

Found in an Afghan war zone. I tend to believe the US government that he throw a grenade that led to the death of a US service man than the alternative.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 09:16:26 AM
Found in an Afghan war zone. I tend to believe the US government that he throw a grenade that led to the death of a US service man than the alternative.

okay so he attacked an invading force? Sounds resionable to me and not Jihadist,. and what do you mean with Afghan war zone? The whole country was a warzone.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Nordic Superman on July 22, 2008, 09:29:43 AM
okay so he attacked an invading force? Sounds resionable to me and not Jihadist,. and what do you mean with Afghan war zone? The whole country was a warzone.

So you're on the side of the Taliban, rather than that of the coalition?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 09:46:10 AM
So you're on the side of the Taliban, rather than that of the coalition?

nope it's not that easy and I know in your worldview there are no gray shades but trust me they exist, i don't give a shit for what country you fight for, all I know are the facts, American Soldiers were in a country they had no business being in the first place, somebody lobbed a Granade at a Soldiers somebody who has signed up willingly to be send at any destination his government sees fit to so he can fight for the interest of the American people.

And as the great George Carlin said once, if you walking around in some foreign land with a gun strapped to your side you better be ready for some action Jack, people tend to be kinda touchy about these things.

I don't give a shit if some guy (or especially a Mercenary) gets his head cut of in a war zone, they signed up to kill and they knew the risks, the families and civies who never signed up to be included in this fuck up have my full sympathy.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: youandme on July 22, 2008, 09:52:03 AM
And as the great George Carlin said once, if you walking around in some foreign land with a gun strapped to your side you better be ready for some action Jack, people tend to be kinda touchy about these things.

George Carlin  ::)

The same hypocrisies he poked fun at, he lavished himself in.

Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Nordic Superman on July 22, 2008, 09:55:38 AM
nope it's not that easy and I know in your worldview there are no gray shades but trust me they exist, i don't give a shit for what country you fight for, all I know are the facts, American Soldiers were in a country they had no business being in the first place, somebody lobbed a Granade at a Soldiers somebody who has signed up willingly to be send at any destination his government sees fit to so he can fight for the interest of the American people.

And as the great George Carlin said once, if you walking around in some foreign land with a gun strapped to your side you better be ready for some action Jack, people tend to be kinda touchy about these things.

I don't give a shit if some guy (or especially a Mercenary) gets his head cut of in a war zone, they signed up to kill and they knew the risks, the families and civies who never signed up to be included in this fuck up have my full sympathy.

Are you unaware of the atrocities the Taliban committed on the people of Afghan? I assume that you don't agree with the war in Afghan?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 22, 2008, 10:00:30 AM
okay so he attacked an invading force? Sounds resionable to me and not Jihadist,. and what do you mean with Afghan war zone? The whole country was a warzone.
again he lived in canada and went there to fight...

nope it's not that easy and I know in your worldview there are no gray shades but trust me they exist, i don't give a shit for what country you fight for, all I know are the facts, American Soldiers were in a country they had no business being in the first place, somebody lobbed a Granade at a Soldiers somebody who has signed up willingly to be send at any destination his government sees fit to so he can fight for the interest of the American people.

And as the great George Carlin said once, if you walking around in some foreign land with a gun strapped to your side you better be ready for some action Jack, people tend to be kinda touchy about these things.

I don't give a shit if some guy (or especially a Mercenary) gets his head cut of in a war zone, they signed up to kill and they knew the risks, the families and civies who never signed up to be included in this fuck up have my full sympathy.

LOL i guess in your world there is not war, no fighting, no arguements of any kind huh...well in the real world shit dont work like that.

What about the innocent civies and families killed in 9/11 you have no sympathy for them? what about the bombing of the USS COLE no sympathy for them? None for the victims of the countless embassy bombings none for them either? stfu
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Nordic Superman on July 22, 2008, 10:03:57 AM
LOL i guess in your world there is not war, no fighting, no arguements of any kind huh...well in the real world shit dont work like that.

What about the innocent civies and families killed in 9/11 you have no sympathy for them? what about the bombing of the USS COLE no sympathy for them? None for the victims of the countless embassy bombings none for them either? stfu

Not to mention the atrocities by the oppressive Taliban regime on the people of Afghanistan.

But for Nico's sake... let's forget all that!
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 22, 2008, 11:14:08 AM
Not to mention the atrocities by the oppressive Taliban regime on the people of Afghanistan.

But for Nico's sake... let's forget all that!

Nico is the same twat who spends the majority of his time jerking off to ogreish videos. My guess is that his wife's fucking someone behind his back and he blames it on the USA.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Nordic Superman on July 22, 2008, 11:19:10 AM
Yeah, any money the majority of those gory videos he watches are the results of some jihadist murder spree.

Now I understand, he wants to back the jihadists so he has a fresh supply of gore material he can wank over.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 11:21:27 AM
Are you unaware of the atrocities the Taliban committed on the people of Afghan? I assume that you don't agree with the war in Afghan?

Oh I'm quite aware of the shit they did ;) I'm a loooong time member of ogrish ;) but I'm also a firm believer that the US or any other government for that matter has never invaded a country for pure humanitarian reasons.
So they really had no business and still have no business being there, let them sort it out themselves for once and don't interfere.

Oh and for the one that said I'm one of these e-hippies who think we should all life in peace and harmony, I'm aware that this is atm not possible and Im not that dim that I don't understand how wars happen, but I can still question people who jump quickly to conclusion when they call a 16 year old Soldier a Jihadist ;)
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 22, 2008, 11:23:35 AM
Yeah, any money the majority of those gory videos he watches are the results of some jihadist murder spree.

Now I understand, he wants to back the jihadists so he has a fresh supply of gore material he can wank over.

Wouldn't surprise me. He seems to pride himself on the fact that he's seen most of the beheading videos out there and other shit like that. I also assume it's the USA's fault that the Taliban likes to behead their fellow Afghani's. By all means, the Taliban are technically invaders now as well. Crossing over from Pakistan to Afghanistan to try to topple a government. Only I don't expect a retard like Stark to comprehend that.  ::)

Oh I'm quite aware of the shit they did ;) I'm a loooong time member of ogrish ;) but I'm also a firm believer that the US or any other government for that matter has never invaded a country for pure humanitarian reasons.
So they really had no business and still have no business being there, let them sort it out themselves for once and don't interfere.

Oh and for the one that said I'm one of these e-hippies who think we should all life in peace and harmony, I'm aware that this is atm not possible and Im not that dim that I don't understand how wars happen, but I can still question people who jump quickly to conclusion when they call a 16 year old Soldier a Jihadist ;)

The kid was from Canada and picked up in the middle of a firefight in Afghanistan. WTF was he doing there, dipshit? Researching a school paper? I love the fact that you think you know what you're talking about here just because the kid is 16. Ever see the video of that 12 year old Taliban kid beheading a guy? Yeah, they're all completely innocent!  ::)



By the way, there are a shitload of Pakistani Taliban crossing over into Afghanistan and blatantly targeting civilians. They're invaders only there to kill Afghanis.  ::)
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 11:23:57 AM
again he lived in canada and went there to fight...
LOL i guess in your world there is not war, no fighting, no arguements of any kind huh...well in the real world shit dont work like that.

What about the innocent civies and families killed in 9/11 you have no sympathy for them? what about the bombing of the USS COLE no sympathy for them? None for the victims of the countless embassy bombings none for them either? stfu

hahah still trying to justify the invasion of a whole country by means of 9/11 ? For god sake give it a rest, and no I don't feel one bit for these unfortunate people who died at 9/11 as much as I feel for the woman that got killed this morning at a crossroad in Peking.
Anybody who says he truly felt for these people at 9/11 and has no relatives included is a lier and a hypocrite.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 11:26:45 AM
Wouldn't surprise me. He seems to pride himself on the fact that he's seen most of the beheading videos out there and other shit like that. I also assume it's the USA's fault that the Taliban likes to behead their fellow Afghani's. By all means, the Taliban are technically invaders now as well. Crossing over from Pakistan to Afghanistan to try to topple a government. Only I don't expect a retard like Stark to comprehend that.  ::)

The kid was from Canada and picked up in the middle of a firefight in Afghanistan. WTF was he doing there, dipshit? Researching a school paper? I love the fact that you think you know what you're talking about here just because the kid is 16. Ever see the video of that 12 year old Taliban kid beheading a guy? Yeah, they're all completely innocent!  ::)



By the way, there are a shitload of Pakistani Taliban crossing over into Afghanistan and blatantly targeting civilians. They're invaders only there to kill Afghanis.  ::)

sorry you are too stupid to discuss something so element and deep than war ::) why don't you try to stay unpersonal?

It's usual a sure sign of a neocon that the arguments you have made against them struck home ::) they tend to get very personal usual and tend to call you either gay a commie or a traitor :D
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 22, 2008, 11:36:16 AM
sorry you are too stupid to discuss something so element and deep than war ::) why don't you try to stay unpersonal?

It's usual a sure sign of a neocon that the arguments you have made against them struck home ::) they tend to get very personal usual and tend to call you either gay a commie or a traitor :D

I'm not a neocon, but nice try. I just gave you some valid reasons. You're ignoring them because they destroy your argument.

First off, the kid was from Canada. He ended up on an Afghanistan battlefield killing US soldiers. He's a piece of shit.

Secondly, these Taliban you're talking about are mostly comprised of Pakistani's at the moment, who are crossing over the boarder to attack Americans and civilians. They're just as much "invaders" as we are.

Lastly, you may think 9/11 was an inside job or not. Regardless, thousands of Americans died as the result of Al Qaeda. The Taliban harbored them and gave them free run in the country.

hahah still trying to justify the invasion of a whole country by means of 9/11 ? For god sake give it a rest, and no I don't feel one bit for these unfortunate people who died at 9/11 as much as I feel for the woman that got killed this morning at a crossroad in Peking.
Anybody who says he truly felt for these people at 9/11 and has no relatives included is a lier and a hypocrite.

You are a moron who jerks off to gore because your wife is fucking another man. Spend more time on Getbig and ogreish, though!  ;D
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 11:37:32 AM
Wouldn't surprise me. He seems to pride himself on the fact that he's seen most of the beheading videos out there and other shit like that. I also assume it's the USA's fault that the Taliban likes to behead their fellow Afghani's. By all means, the Taliban are technically invaders now as well. Crossing over from Pakistan to Afghanistan to try to topple a government. Only I don't expect a retard like Stark to comprehend that.  ::)



nah you became personal and assumed shit ::) hence you canceled yourself out of an adult conversation.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 22, 2008, 11:38:34 AM
nah you became personal and assumed shit ::) hence you canceled yourself out of an adult conversation.

Aww, the ickle wickle Kraut fag is trying to kick me out of a convo.  ::)



Not that I expect you to possess the intellectual capabilities of refuting any of my points.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Nordic Superman on July 22, 2008, 11:39:14 AM
nah you became personal and assumed shit ::) hence you canceled yourself out of an adult conversation.

OK, i'll adopt his arguments, could you provide a rebuttal to them for me please, considering I agree with most of them?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 11:42:22 AM
OK, i'll adopt his arguments, could you provide a rebuttal to them for me please, considering I agree with most of them?

Sure..

Quote
First off, the kid was from Canada. He ended up on an Afghanistan battlefield killing US soldiers. He's a piece of shit.

Why not he was Afganie and saw his country being attacked by people he thought had not right attacking his country.

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Secondly, these Taliban you're talking about are mostly comprised of Pakistani's at the moment, who are crossing over the boarder to attack Americans and civilians. They're just as much "invaders" as we are.
Yep but the boy wasn't ;)

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Lastly, you may think 9/11 was an inside job or not. Regardless, thousands of Americans died as the result of Al Qaeda. The Taliban harbored them and gave them free run in the country.
Alright, I don;t think it was an inside job, I still don't feel bad for anybody I don't know, and it sure doesn't sound like a good reason to attack a whole country.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 22, 2008, 11:47:16 AM
Sure..

Why not he was Afganie and saw his country being attacked by people he thought had not right attacking his country.
Yep but the boy wasn't ;)
Alright, I don;t think it was an inside job, I still don't feel bad for anybody I don't know, and it sure doesn't sound like a good reason to attack a whole country.

Ok, so he was Afghani and saw his "country" (he was actually Canadian, born and raised there). Ok fine, we'll look at it that way. Then I guess it's ok that he was picked up on a battlefield killing Americans. That's the price he paid. At 16 he's old enough to know the consequences of throwing a grenade at soldiers.

Secondly, it's a plenty fine reason to attack a whole country. The Taliban were financing, aiding and giving Al Qaeda quarter in their country. They allowed training camps, access to weaponry and a spot for them to plot attacks against the West. Not only that, they were an oppressive regime that drove their country into the ground. They had what was coming to them.

Not only that, but now they're invading from Pakistan with Pakistani fighters trying to retake a country that's not theirs. They kill civilians and have become invaders themselves.



Not only that, there are dozens of countries in Afghanistan. Why don't you go tell Merkel how upset you are with her.  ::)
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 22, 2008, 12:17:53 PM
hahah still trying to justify the invasion of a whole country by means of 9/11 ? For god sake give it a rest, and no I don't feel one bit for these unfortunate people who died at 9/11 as much as I feel for the woman that got killed this morning at a crossroad in Peking.
Anybody who says he truly felt for these people at 9/11 and has no relatives included is a lier and a hypocrite.
yet you feel sympathetic for a piece of shit who kills american soldiers...lol hypocrisy at its best...YOU SIR ARE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PIECES OF SHIT ON GETBIG CONGRATS ::)  you know nothing of what you speak so you should stfu.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 12:20:39 PM
yet you feel sympathetic for a piece of shit who kills american soldiers...lol hypocrisy at its best...YOU SIR ARE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PIECES OF SHIT ON GETBIG CONGRATS ::)  you know nothing of what you speak so you should stfu.

Nope I don't feel for that kid at all, I'm just arguing the fact that I wouldn't be so quick to condemn him a terrorist.

I'm very honest to myself and try to be as honest as I can to others, and I can honestly say when I saw the pics on TV of the people jumping down it made me feel very uneasy but I don't have the same feeling like when a loved one died, it's not the same.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 22, 2008, 12:22:09 PM
Nope I don't feel for that kid at all, I'm just arguing the fact that I wouldn't be so quick to condemn him a terrorist.
give proof otherwise ???
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 22, 2008, 12:25:31 PM
Nope I don't feel for that kid at all, I'm just arguing the fact that I wouldn't be so quick to condemn him a terrorist.

I'm very honest to myself and try to be as honest as I can to others, and I can honestly say when I saw the pics on TV of the people jumping down it made me feel very uneasy but I don't have the same feeling like when a loved one died, it's not the same.
no its not the same, but only an ignorant idiot or just a plain jackass would call someone who says they truely feel for these ppl liars and hyprocrites.

AND AGAIN POST PROOF OTHERWISE ???
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 12:25:57 PM
give proof otherwise ???


there is as much prove for my theory than there is for yours, I'm just careful before I condemn a 16 year old who may have
reacted over the top and though of himself fighting against the big invader and is now caught in a very uncomfortable situation.

It comes down to me personal believing my gut instinct and what the first feeling, come on this here is all very basic and we can discuss this until we become blue in the face.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 12:28:39 PM
no its not the same, but only an ignorant idiot or just a plain jackass would call someone who says they truely feel for these ppl liars and hyprocrites.

AND AGAIN POST PROOF OTHERWISE ???

I wonder if it is possible to have a rational conversation with you without calling me a jackass and idiot? It just proves my point that you
are melting down and have no real arguments, you don't see me calling you all sort of names do you?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 22, 2008, 12:28:59 PM
there is as much prove for my theory than there is for yours, I'm just careful before I condemn a 16 year old who may have
reacted over the top and though of himself fighting against the big invader and is now caught in a very uncomfortable situation.

It comes down to me personal believing my gut instinct and what the first feeling, come on this here is all very basic and we can discuss this until we become blue in the face.
well theres the fact he lived in canada and went to afgahnistan to fight, also the fact that his dad and brothers fought against american troops...so id say the evidence points more towards our conclusion than yours...that is again unless you have some other info but i guess you dont.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 22, 2008, 12:31:11 PM
I wonder if it is possible to have a rational conversation with you without calling me a jackass and idiot? It just proves my point that you
are melting down and have no real arguments, you don't see me calling you all sort of names do you?
or without you calling me a liar and a hypocrite ??? I wonder who called who names first? thats right you did ::)

Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 12:34:57 PM
well theres the fact he lived in canada and went to afgahnistan to fight, also the fact that his dad and brothers fought against american troops...so id say the evidence points more towards our conclusion than yours...that is again unless you have some other info but i guess you dont.

okay he lived in Canada but wasn't Canadian, If my country would be invaded by Ireland tomorrow I would join the local resistance as well.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 22, 2008, 12:35:19 PM
well theres the fact he lived in canada and went to afgahnistan to fight, also the fact that his dad and brothers fought against american troops...so id say the evidence points more towards our conclusion than yours...that is again unless you have some other info but i guess you dont.

There is so much speculation without adequate facts.

You draw conclusions that the US government has not even drawn

Tonymctones, why do you feel you know more than the US government?

Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 12:36:16 PM
or without you calling me a liar and a hypocrite ??? I wonder who called who names first? thats right you did ::)



I didn't call you a liar and hypocrite, I have no idea what you agenda regarding 9/11 is, you however called me a idiot as in: YOU ARE AN idiot, there is a difference.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 12:38:42 PM
There is so much speculation without adequate facts.

You draw conclusions that the US government has not even drawn

Tonymctones, why do you feel you know more than the US government?



the answer to this is simple he WANTS him to be a jihadist, anything else would be admitting that the US Government is making mistakes.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 22, 2008, 12:38:59 PM
okay he lived in Canada but wasn't Canadian, If my country would be invaded by Ireland tomorrow I would join the local resistance as well.

Actually he was born in Toronto, Canada. Are you saying that only certain people born in countries like Canada or the USA are Canadian or American? Great logic.  ::)

Fact of the matter is that this kid is a terrorist who was captured in battle in Afghanistan, thousands of miles away from his home in Canada.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 22, 2008, 12:39:53 PM
There is so much speculation without adequate facts.

You draw conclusions that the US government has not even drawn

Tonymctones, why do you feel you know more than the US government?


LOL omg like bush lying about wmd, or any other number of subjects youve attacked the US on...The things i have read say that his father and i believe 2 brothers fought agains US troops...again provide proof leaning towards your conclusion plz...
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 22, 2008, 12:41:21 PM
I didn't call you a liar and hypocrite, I have no idea what you agenda regarding 9/11 is, you however called me a idiot as in: YOU ARE AN idiot, there is a difference.
maybe you missed my questioning you on sympathy for 9/11 victims although i doubt it as i believe you quoted it. Me asking you about it implies that i have sympathy for them, Im sorry you probably couldnt put 2 and 2 together and i should have clarified.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 12:47:55 PM
maybe you missed my questioning you on sympathy for 9/11 victims although i doubt it as i believe you quoted it. Me asking you about it implies that i have sympathy for them, Im sorry you probably couldnt put 2 and 2 together and i should have clarified.

But I stated that I do believe anybody who has actually loosed somebody in this tragedy has every right to feel
very bad for anybody dying in that incident ;) and I had no idea if or if not you lost somebody at 9/11 so I simply canceled you
out of the people I called hypocrites and lairs or better said I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

You see I believe that very few people are actually in fact capable of feeling bad for anybody but themself or the closest people around them, not when they see something happening to somebody but on TV, they don't give a fuck, they feel uneasy and horrified and misinterpreted this to feel actually for these people, but they don't.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 22, 2008, 12:56:16 PM
But I stated that I do believe anybody who has actually loosed somebody in this tragedy has every right to feel
very bad for anybody dying in that incident ;) and I had no idea if or if not you lost somebody at 9/11 so I simply canceled you
out of the people I called hypocrites and lairs or better said I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

You see I believe that very few people are actually in fact capable of feeling bad for anybody but themself or the closest people around them, not when they see something happening to somebody but on TV, they don't give a fuck, they feel uneasy and horrified and misinterpreted this to feel actually for these people, but they don't.
so you dont really feel sympathy for the "civies and families" of the ppl in iraq and afgahnistan like you said you did then so your one of those liars and hypocrites?

I didnt lose a family member, friend, or anybody I even knew in 9/11...is this why ppl gave money, blood, time, resources to help those who were injured or lost family in 9/11 b/c it was uneasy. NO its b/c ppl genuinely feel for others in pain especially when we can relate to them...just b.c you dont doesnt mean you should generalize to others.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 12:57:51 PM
so you dont really feel sympathy for the "civies and families" of the ppl in iraq and afgahnistan like you said you did then so your one of those liars and hyporcrites?

I didnt lose a family member, friend, or anybody I even knew in 9/11...is this why ppl gave money, blood, time, resources to help those who were injured or lost family in 9/11 b/c it was uneasy.

nope don't really feel for them, however I know it isn't right that they have to suffer for the consequences of the action of a few
fanatic people.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 22, 2008, 12:59:14 PM
nope don't really feel for them, however I know it isn't right that they have to suffer for the consequences of the action of a few
fanatic people.
your previous post on this very thread say otherwise, also the same could be said for the ppl who died on 9/11 do you feel the same way for these ppl as well?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 22, 2008, 01:05:16 PM
LOL omg like bush lying about wmd, or any other number of subjects youve attacked the US on...The things i have read say that his father and i believe 2 brothers fought agains US troops...again provide proof leaning towards your conclusion plz...

But there you go tony, ...I do not draw any conclusions about his guilt or innocence.
That is for the courts to decide. What I do is look at the evidence that we have thus far been allowed to see.

And there is no mistaking that this kid who has been punted around like a political football.

Bare in mind, I'm in Canada, so it's possible I may have access to more than what you have.  ;)
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: youandme on July 22, 2008, 01:07:56 PM
Bare in mind, I'm in Canada, so it's possible I may have access to more than what you have.  ;)

Are you talking about the materials you used to increase your IQ to Einstein levels?

Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 22, 2008, 01:08:42 PM
But there you go tony, ...I do not draw any conclusions about his guilt or innocence.
That is for the courts to decide. What I do is look at the evidence that we have thus far been allowed to see.

And there is no mistaking that this kid who has been punted around like a political football.

Bare in mind, I'm in Canada, so it's possible I may have access to more than what you have.  ;)
LOL bear in mind im in america so whenever you post on american subjects that i may have more knowledge than you :-*

again if you have other evidence to show otherwise than plz post it, im going off what ive read in the press...just like you do on the vast majority of threads we all post on here and those sources dont paint a pretty picture for this young man.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 22, 2008, 01:09:47 PM
But there you go tony, ...I do not draw any conclusions about his guilt or innocence.
That is for the courts to decide. What I do is look at the evidence that we have thus far been allowed to see.

And there is no mistaking that this kid who has been punted around like a political football.

Bare in mind, I'm in Canada, so it's possible I may have access to more than what you have.  ;)

I didn't know the Canadian government was releasing information to a black woman who scams others by selling fraudulent gas caps? The same person with ties to a repeat criminal?   ???

You know nothing more than us and I'm actually more inclined to believe you know less as your knowledge of the situation is severely lacking. Douche.



You may THINK you know what you're talking about, but then again, you're the same retard who claimed to have the same IQ as Einstein only to correct yourself and try to cover up your lie when you exposed.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 01:15:55 PM
your previous post on this very thread say otherwise, also the same could be said for the ppl who died on 9/11 do you feel the same way for these ppl as well?

no it doesn't I never said I feel for anybody, please quote me otherwise
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 22, 2008, 01:22:16 PM
LOL bear in mind im in america so whenever you post on american subjects that i may have more knowledge than you :-*

{giggle} It is precisely your being American and being in America that leads me to the conclusion that I may have more access to more accurate and truthful information than you.  ;)

I mean, look how long it took you guys to figure out WMD was a lie.
Look how long it took you guys to realize Global Warming was real.
Look how long it took you guys to realize Bush was a mistake.

Canada and the rest of the world knew this from day one.


Ignorant little children should not be allowed to run with scissors.  :-*

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again if you have other evidence to show otherwise than plz post it, im going off what ive read in the press...just like you do on the vast majority of threads we all post on here and those sources dont paint a pretty picture for this young man.

Painting pretty or not so pretty pictures is neither here nor there for me. They can paint all the pictures they want.
It's when they start interjecting inaccuracies as facts that galls me. Tell the truth for crying out loud. What is it that people have against the truth these days. If they have to contort & twist & lie & deceive in order to make their point, ...the point isn't worth making is it?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 22, 2008, 01:24:37 PM
Apparently Jag has never heard of the internet.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: youandme on July 22, 2008, 01:36:15 PM
Apparently Jag has never heard of the internet.

She invented the internet.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 22, 2008, 01:40:28 PM
She invented the internet.

No i didn't you silly man. That was Al Gore.  :P
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: tonymctones on July 22, 2008, 01:44:53 PM
{giggle} It is precisely your being American and being in America that leads me to the conclusion that I may have more access to more accurate and truthful information than you.  ;)

I mean, look how long it took you guys to figure out WMD was a lie.
Look how long it took you guys to realize Global Warming was real.
Look how long it took you guys to realize Bush was a mistake.


Canada and the rest of the world knew this from day one.


Ignorant little children should not be allowed to run with scissors.  :-*

Painting pretty or not so pretty pictures is neither here nor there for me. They can paint all the pictures they want.
It's when they start interjecting inaccuracies as facts that galls me. Tell the truth for crying out loud. What is it that people have against the truth these days. If they have to contort & twist & lie & deceive in order to make their point, ...the point isn't worth making is it?
thank you for making my point again how do you know it was a lie? How do you know the info that he had present to make his decision...let me guess the media. Nobody is twisting anything here we are going off of what the press not just american press has reported. AGAIN plz if you have other info post it here...So americans are lied to??? and your not??? LOL
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: youandme on July 22, 2008, 01:47:14 PM
Painting pretty or not so pretty pictures is neither here nor there for me. They can paint all the pictures they want.
It's when they start interjecting inaccuracies

It's a real photo, not a painting.
What inaccuracies do you see in the previous photos posted?
I see American Medics, aiding a murdering terrorist. Further evidence of his goals to murder Americans, appears as he shows off his collection of weapons.
These pictures represent alot of things, wrong, but not one inclination of what is wrong with America or it's troops in Iraq.
How is this inaccurate in your eyes?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 01:57:47 PM
It's a real photo, not a painting.
What inaccuracies do you see in the previous photos posted?
I see American Medics, aiding a murdering terrorist. Further evidence of his goals to murder Americans, appears as he shows off his collection of weapons.
These pictures represent alot of things, wrong, but not one inclination of what is wrong with America or it's troops in Iraq.
How is this inaccurate in your eyes?

I see a picture of US Soldiers trying to save the life of a farmer boy that was accidentally shot, you see pictures never tell
the whole truth, it always depends what your believes are.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 22, 2008, 02:00:33 PM
I see a picture of US Soldiers trying to save the life of a farmer boy that was accidentally shot, you see pictures never tell
the whole truth, it always depends what your believes are.

It's more likely that he's a terrorist. But it's ok that you want to believe the maybe 1-5% chance that he's a "farmer" (LOL!) Your anti-American hate is astounding. Almost on par with your stupidity.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 02:10:37 PM
It's more likely that he's a terrorist. But it's ok that you want to believe the maybe 1-5% chance that he's a "farmer" (LOL!) Your anti-American hate is astounding. Almost on par with your stupidity.

how do I hate America? I never said that, just because I don't share the same hate you have against people you claim to be
terrorists?
That's pretty narrow minded.

And where do you come up with the 1-5%?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 22, 2008, 02:15:21 PM
thank you for making my point again how do you know it was a lie? How do you know the info that he had present to make his decision...let me guess the media. Nobody is twisting anything here we are going off of what the press not just american press has reported. AGAIN plz if you have other info post it here...So americans are lied to??? and your not??? LOL

Oh we're all lied to in one form or other, ...it's just that 'some' governments have a tendency to lie to their citizens more than others.  ;)  And it is for these reasons why I draw no conclusions. It is not my place to decide his guilt or innocence. It is up to the courts. Let's hope they have access to the truthful information that will empower them to properly dispatch the task they have in front of them, ...which is to accurately determine the guilt or innocence of accused persons.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Tapper on July 22, 2008, 02:23:40 PM
Canadian government is the worst. They do whatever they want, whenever they want to their citizens. Hell Chretien used to have the Mounties mace students who were protesting. Canadians have a fraction of the freedoms most other western nations have.

Dont believe Jag's shit about Canada being this Utopia.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 22, 2008, 02:32:33 PM
It's a real photo, not a painting.
What inaccuracies do you see in the previous photos posted?
I see American Medics, aiding a murdering terrorist. Further evidence of his goals to murder Americans, appears as he shows off his collection of weapons.
These pictures represent alot of things, wrong, but not one inclination of what is wrong with America or it's troops in Iraq.
How is this inaccurate in your eyes?

My comments about painting pretty or not so pretty pictures were metaphorical.
They were about the various press reports and media articles tonymctony referenced.
They had nothing to do with the graphics posted.

With regards to the graphics posted,

graphic#1
I see a boy that appears to have a couple of rather large wounds in this chest.


graphic #2
I see a boy in what appears to be a beige shirt (much too large for his frame)


graphic #3
I see a boy, a hand holding something, and what appears to be an automatic weapon in the background


graphic #4

I see men in military fatigues focussed on someone or something on the ground.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 22, 2008, 02:35:30 PM
Canadian government is the worst. They do whatever they want, whenever they want to their citizens. Hell Chretien used to have the Mounties mace students who were protesting. Canadians have a fraction of the freedoms most other western nations have.

Dont believe Jag's shit about Canada being this Utopia.

Our former Prime Minister approved the macing of student protesters.
Your former president approved the killing of student protestors.


I don't know about you, ...but I think most would prefer to be maced vs being killed.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Tapper on July 22, 2008, 02:39:45 PM
My point is, you stunned girl, that Canada is NOT the utopia you make it out to be. Canadian politicians have ALWAYS done as they pleased and Canadians have virtually no recourse to combat it. Charter of Rights and Freedoms? Dont make me laugh. There are no rights in Canada, only privileges.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 22, 2008, 03:01:45 PM
My point is, you stunned ####, that Canada is NOT the utopia you make it out to be. Canadian politicians have ALWAYS done as they pleased and Canadians have virtually no recourse to combat it. Charter of Rights and Freedoms? Dont make me laugh. There are no rights in Canada, only privileges.

I thought the subject of this thread was the "Blubbering Jihadist: 'you don't care about me'"

Yep...that's the subject. How does Canada, land of the fuzzy bunny, being a utopia or not come in?

Please stay on point... or start an appropriate thread.

Thank you
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Tapper on July 22, 2008, 03:04:46 PM
I think I touched a nerve. She sounds as squirrelly as ever.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 22, 2008, 03:51:02 PM
Hahahah. I got to admit, Tapper's instant destructions are Jag are some of the most entertaining things I've ever read on Getbig. Wish he would come around more often.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: 24KT on July 22, 2008, 03:54:25 PM
Hahahah. I got to admit, Tapper's instant destructions are Jag are some of the most entertaining things I've ever read on Getbig. Wish he would come around more often.

 :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o

OMG! It's one big circle jerk.

pssst: BF, Tapper says you have cold hands.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 22, 2008, 03:55:42 PM
:o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o

OMG! It's one big circle jerk.

pssst: BF, Tapper says you have cold hands.

Calm down Ahmad, you seem pretty feisty today. Bad day pushing your snake oil caps onto unsuspecting retards?


By the way, how did that business venture between you and that criminal go? You know, the one where you two were trying to push a phony cure for SARS?  ???
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Tapper on July 22, 2008, 03:58:21 PM
:o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o

OMG! It's one big circle jerk.

pssst: BF, Tapper says you have cold hands.

I bet that National Wildlife Preserve you call a twat is too. If I stuffed some of those MPG caps up there, would I get a few more miles out of you?
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Eldon on July 22, 2008, 04:03:29 PM
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I bet that National Wildlife Preserve you call a twat is too. If I stuffed some of those MPG caps up there, would I get a few more miles out of you?

LMAO !!!


You would think with Jag's I.Q of 160, she would be busy working on some cure, instead of making a fool of her self on GetBig   ::)   ::)   ::)
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Fury on July 22, 2008, 04:12:00 PM
LMAO !!!


You would think with Jag's I.Q of 160, she would be busy working on some cure, instead of making a fool of her self on GetBig   ::)   ::)   ::)

She and a criminal actually developed an entirely herbal cure for SARS. Maybe she really does have a 160 IQ!  ::)
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: youandme on July 22, 2008, 04:14:25 PM
I see a picture of US Soldiers trying to save the life of a farmer boy that was accidentally shot, you see pictures never tell
the whole truth, it always depends what your believes are.

You see pictures never tell the whole truth but they do lend a hand to the deductive reasoning explained in just a few pictures of a wounded man, and American Medics.

So, even in that scenario you don't know who shot who, but you do know that the American Medics are lending a hand to save a life.







Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 11:52:53 PM
My point is, you stunned ####, that Canada is NOT the utopia you make it out to be. Canadian politicians have ALWAYS done as they pleased and Canadians have virtually no recourse to combat it. Charter of Rights and Freedoms? Dont make me laugh. There are no rights in Canada, only privileges.

kekekeke like the US government hasn't always done what they want, you have to be delusional to believe otherwise.

I much much muuuuuch rather go to Canada than the US, and yes I believe the US and UK have become a terrible police state.
Title: Re: Blubbering Jihadist: "You Don't Care About Me
Post by: Stark on July 22, 2008, 11:55:14 PM
You see pictures never tell the whole truth but they do lend a hand to the deductive reasoning explained in just a few pictures of a wounded man, and American Medics.

So, even in that scenario you don't know who shot who, but you do know that the American Medics are lending a hand to save a life.




And I don;t want to doubt that, but it their job to do so and it still doesn't clarify who shot first.