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Title: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: DIVISION on July 17, 2008, 08:18:00 PM

They're one of the well known UG's that I've never tried.

I'd like some honest opinions about the quality of their products.

Was is on par with most UG's or somewhat better?

Underdosed, Overdosed?

I'd like to hear opinions on the Tri-Trenabol as it looks promising.

Anyone tried the Andro-Pen?

Speak!   :-X



DIV
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: Has Beens on July 17, 2008, 08:37:39 PM
Hey DIV,
 The cyp and the deca were okay compared to any ug`s I have tried. The winny and var tabs ( if not actual left overs ) were VERY good IMO.
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: 4thAD on July 17, 2008, 08:52:30 PM
The key word here is WAS! BD quality is complete garbage and is not actually what it is labeled to be. Here is a lab report from recent busts DIV. I used BD in the past, but would never waste my money now. People are complaining of no hormone and no results from new BD. IP bought out the BD name and is supposedly manufacturing the new stuff.


http://www.bodyofscience.com/labreports/images/gi9fooe5b9gmfyor.doc
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: DIVISION on July 17, 2008, 08:54:18 PM
Hey DIV,
 The cyp and the deca were okay compared to any ug`s I have tried. The winny and var tabs ( if not actual left overs ) were VERY good IMO.

So the injectibles were just "OK", but the tabs were excellent?

The key word here is WAS! BD quality is complete garbage and is not actually what it is labeled to be. Here is a lab report from recent busts DIV. I used BD in the past, but would never waste my money now. People are complaining of no hormone and no results from new BD. IP bought out the BD name and is supposedly manufacturing the new stuff.

Do we know for sure whether IP bought out BD or is that speculation?

When I spoke about BD quality, I meant now, not the past.

If it's true about IP, the quality of BD has got to be complete shit.    >:(


DIV
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: candidizzle on July 17, 2008, 08:54:46 PM
i doubt the IP version of BD is underdosed or outright fake. probably just scammers trying to capitilize off the old BD brand name recognition.
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: Has Beens on July 17, 2008, 09:07:18 PM
So the injectibles were just "OK", but the tabs were excellent?


DIV

Yes, all the BD tabs I have tried have been in the last 6 months. I forgot to mention that the d-bol was very good as well. Big difference when I went to Omna`s and Norma`s compared to the BD injects.
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: DIVISION on July 17, 2008, 09:29:16 PM
Yes, all the BD tabs I have tried have been in the last 6 months. I forgot to mention that the d-bol was very good as well. Big difference when I went to Omna`s and Norma`s compared to the BD injects.

Alright, thanks for the feedback.

Why'd you take Omnas over Sustanon?

Explain.


DIV
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: Has Beens on July 17, 2008, 09:36:57 PM
Alright, thanks for the feedback.

Why'd you take Omnas over Sustanon?

Explain.


DIV

Availabilty and for some reason they are pain free to me.
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: 4thAD on July 17, 2008, 09:39:36 PM


Do we know for sure whether IP bought out BD or is that speculation?

When I spoke about BD quality, I meant now, not the past.

If it's true about IP, the quality of BD has got to be complete shit.    >:(


DIV

Did you read those labs DIV look at the BD tren A, there isnt even any tren in it.

Trenabol
Trenbolone-acetate
75 mg/mL
British Dragon Pharmaceuticals
T-propionate,
T-phenylpropionate,
Boldenone-undecylenate


Where's the cyp, its all prop and phenylprop.

Testabol Depot
T-cypionate
100 mg/ampoule
British Dragon Pharmaceuticals   
T-propionate,
T-phenylpropionate

Bottom line I would stick to human grade only. Although I have been hearing some good things about syntrop (chinese generic).


A little news about Syntrop.

The Genius behind Syntrop Labs is almost a sad story. The current director of Syntrop was once a partner in Axiolabs (back in the day that Axiolabs was good)

Due to personality conflicts between the owners, the director of Syntrop (we will call him Dr S) was forced out. As you will conclude; this co-incided with the downward spiral of Axiolabs quality. Needless to say Dr S was the driving force behind the quality of the AX brand and the moment he left all ability to produce quality products at AX labs ended.

Due to the fact that he had limited financial resources, Dr S started a new brand that was a boutique brand for specific clients who were focused only on quality products. Dr S borrowed money from friends and family to start his new brand. Unsure of where this path would take him Syntrop was born and has since flourished to become a widely recognized brand. Due to his concern for his clients and pride in his work Dr S has grown Syntrop from strength to strength (no pun intended). Today Syntrop is produced in a GMP facility with all the best equipment to ensure you get the quality you deserve.




Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: 4thAD on July 17, 2008, 09:45:18 PM
i doubt the IP version of BD is underdosed or outright fake. probably just scammers trying to capitilize off the old BD brand name recognition.



?? you were the one who was saying the guys that produce the shit product should go to jail. Remember the supposed tren with boldenone instead of tren.
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: candidizzle on July 17, 2008, 09:46:25 PM


?? you were the one who was saying the guys that produce the shit product should go to jail. Remember the supposed tren with boldenone instead of tren.
yes, THOSE guys should.

highly doubt that was IP or his affiliates who produced that though
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: DIVISION on July 17, 2008, 10:00:47 PM
Did you read those labs DIV look at the BD tren A, there isnt even any tren in it.

Trenabol
Trenbolone-acetate
75 mg/mL
British Dragon Pharmaceuticals
T-propionate,
T-phenylpropionate,
Boldenone-undecylenate


Where's the cyp, its all prop and phenylprop.

Testabol Depot
T-cypionate
100 mg/ampoule
British Dragon Pharmaceuticals   
T-propionate,
T-phenylpropionate

Bottom line I would stick to human grade only. Although I have been hearing some good things about syntrop (chinese generic).

You're talking to a guy who only uses Sustanon, so no need to convince me


yes, THOSE guys should.

highly doubt that was IP or his affiliates who produced that though


I'm sure you have the kind of inside connections that would really lead you to believe something like that.   ::)

If you know anything about IP or his products and the history of them, nothing about this should surprise you.

I'm not sure how you come to the conclusions you do, but I'm going to go out on a limb here by saying that I tend to think I have a few more people who are "in the know".  They don't post on message boards and they don't get any of their info from google searches.

They deal with sources like IP for a living.


DIV
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: 4thAD on July 17, 2008, 10:02:31 PM
it was genuine fake BD. The bust was in may of this year, and ip was more than likely the manufacturer. Its right on BoS.
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: candidizzle on July 17, 2008, 10:04:00 PM
so you are connected to all kinds of powerful and important steroid manufacturers division?

better keep that shit quiet

i personally wouldnt be sayign shit like that

might turn into steveray and get your life fucked up

that would be sad

but you couldnt say i didnt warn you



me? no, i have NO connection, i know no sources,   :)
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: DIVISION on July 17, 2008, 10:06:50 PM
so you are connected to all kinds of powerful and important steroid manufacturers division?

better keep that shit quiet

i personally wouldnt be sayign shit like that

might turn into steveray and get your life fucked up

that would be sad

but you couldnt say i didnt warn you



me? no, i have NO connection, i know no sources,   :)



I know a few people, but I don't make assumptions about things I don't know about, like you.

I've been in this game for awhile and one tends to make associations.

You can understand that, right?

It has nothing to do with google, just knowing people.



DIV
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: candidizzle on July 17, 2008, 10:08:43 PM

I know a few people, but I don't make assumptions about things I don't know about, like you.

I've been in this game for awhile and one tends to make associations.

You can understand that, right?

It has nothing to do with google, just knowing people.



DIV
well, you say you dont make assumptions about things you dont know about, but then you go ahead and make assumptions about me.

kind of contradictory, div.  :D

but hey, you are the all powerful, all knowing, highly CONNECTED big bad moderator

so your contradtions are OKAY with me
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: candidizzle on July 17, 2008, 10:13:00 PM
yo div, i got this girl who has some fat on her lower stomach she wants to get rid off.
you know of any ab exercises that could torch off that lower ab fat bro ???
 :)
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: 4thAD on July 17, 2008, 10:17:06 PM
yo div, i got this girl who has some fat on her lower stomach she wants to get rid off.
you know of any ab exercises that could torch off that lower ab fat bro ???
 :)

Candi give it a fucking rest bro!
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: DIVISION on July 17, 2008, 10:32:06 PM
well, you say you dont make assumptions about things you dont know about, but then you go ahead and make assumptions about me.

kind of contradictory, div.  :D

but hey, you are the all powerful, all knowing, highly CONNECTED big bad moderator

so your contradtions are OKAY with me

I'm not assuming anything, dizzle.

I'm going off of observations and things you've said on the forum.

It's not rocket science.

I don't think most people hate you as a person but we don't know you, we only see how you act on here.


DIV
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: candidizzle on July 17, 2008, 10:33:43 PM
yes, you are assuming.


Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: Overload on July 18, 2008, 09:33:37 AM
highly doubt that was IP or his affiliates who produced that though


Again, you are speaking about things you know NOTHING about.

8)
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: candidizzle on July 18, 2008, 11:01:56 AM
Again, you are speaking about things you know NOTHING about.

8)
no its you who is WRITING about things you dont know shit about, friend. (by making ssumptions about what i do and do not know.)


Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: Overload on July 18, 2008, 11:11:09 AM
no its you who is WRITING about things you dont know shit about, friend. (by making ssumptions about what i do and do not know.)


Ok.

Who is IP and list his other companies?

PM the info and i'll leave you alone.

8)
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: candidizzle on July 18, 2008, 11:13:39 AM
i dont feel that you deserve a reply, and i honestly dont care what you think,  what matters is you accuse me of 'assuming' and in doing so your 'assuming' yourself.
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: IAMTHEGAME on July 18, 2008, 11:15:35 AM
i dont feel that you deserve a reply, and i honestly dont care what you think,  what matters is you accuse me of 'assuming' and in doing so your 'assuming' yourself.

The Beautiful part is how long it too you to come up with that...Did you have to change your shirt from all the sweating you did...LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: candidizzle on July 18, 2008, 11:19:01 AM
The Beautiful part is how long it too you to come up with that...Did you have to change your shirt from all the sweating you did...LOLOLOLOLOLOL
::)
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: IAMTHEGAME on July 18, 2008, 11:20:38 AM
::)

WoW...Yo finally learned to shut the fuck up...Amazing...

Prove to us and the world that you are as legit as you say you are, send O the info he wants...

We all know you won't which proves you are phony...
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: iron_dawg on July 18, 2008, 11:24:20 AM
i posted on here inquiring about BD products because that was all i was able to get a hold of I am using andropen 275 right now it has only been two weeks 1cc eod and it seems to be a quality product was very skeptical heard there was alot of fakes out there
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: bassmaster on July 18, 2008, 12:22:16 PM
have been using bd tri-tren, the only thing i have to compare it to is when i used ga's tren.
im pinning less, still see  gains while on diet,fat loss, also the stuff gets my heart rate up.  i like it so far, the only thing i didn't like was with a bottle of  bd prop it had a gray stopper instead of the green. .... ???

as for the tri-tren give it a try, the color of the oil is scary.
 
who knows those labels and stoppers can be bought..   
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: Overload on July 18, 2008, 02:30:59 PM
i dont feel that you deserve a reply, and i honestly dont care what you think,  what matters is you accuse me of 'assuming' and in doing so your 'assuming' yourself.

You are finally learning your role here, good job backpeddling.

I digress, it is such a waste to even reply anymore.

You know nothing in this game, some of us have been doing this a very long time...IP was around when you were in grade school.

All the best,

8)
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: candidizzle on July 18, 2008, 02:32:23 PM
You are finally learning your role here, good job backpeddling.

I digress, it is such a waste to even reply anymore.

You know nothing in this game, some of us have been doing this a very long time...IP was around when you were in grade school.

All the best,

8)

KEEP YOUR FUCKING PLEASANTRIES TO YOUR GODDAMN SELF,
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: Overload on July 18, 2008, 02:33:49 PM
KEEP YOUR FUCKING PLEASANTRIES TO YOUR GODDAMN SELF,

Check your blood pressure... ;D

You are a funny guy.

Very truly yours,

8)
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: DIVISION on July 18, 2008, 03:29:23 PM
i posted on here inquiring about BD products because that was all i was able to get a hold of I am using andropen 275 right now it has only been two weeks 1cc eod and it seems to be a quality product was very skeptical heard there was alot of fakes out there

If you've used Sustanon, how does it feel compared to that?

have been using bd tri-tren, the only thing i have to compare it to is when i used ga's tren.
im pinning less, still see  gains while on diet,fat loss, also the stuff gets my heart rate up.  i like it so far, the only thing i didn't like was with a bottle of  bd prop it had a gray stopper instead of the green. .... ???

as for the tri-tren give it a try, the color of the oil is scary.
 
who knows those labels and stoppers can be bought..   

I'm seriously considering doing an order of Tri-Tren, but if there's any chance of IP counterfeiting BD,  no way.


DIV
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: Rimbaud on July 18, 2008, 07:01:18 PM
If you've used Sustanon, how does it feel compared to that?

If it's legit. It's fine - just a little more test them sust. I personally liked it.
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: bassmaster on July 18, 2008, 08:42:53 PM
If you've used Sustanon, how does it feel compared to that?

I'm seriously considering doing an order of Tri-Tren, but if there's any chance of IP counterfeiting BD,  no way.


DIV

so what im getting from this ip is the current producer of bd? if so man its deff.  a risk to take. if ip wasn't the vendor is their a chance of getting ip's "new" line, i hope its old  stock.

 bd's vials have a cap that when taken of wrong nearly exposes  the stopper, letting the oil drip out under preasure, lost some product that way.... sign of counterfiet?? who knows 

i wouldn't order unless willing to take the chance. this whole game is always left to chance. 
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: jtsunami on July 18, 2008, 10:16:13 PM
I have tried a few diff batches of it, it has always been painful, and I would not get it again never, compared to other UG ga labs at the time ga had very nice smooth no hurt stuff, so I would say the BD sucked tbo
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: DIVISION on July 18, 2008, 11:23:56 PM
so what im getting from this ip is the current producer of bd? if so man its deff.  a risk to take. if ip wasn't the vendor is their a chance of getting ip's "new" line, i hope its old  stock.

 bd's vials have a cap that when taken of wrong nearly exposes  the stopper, letting the oil drip out under preasure, lost some product that way.... sign of counterfiet?? who knows 

i wouldn't order unless willing to take the chance. this whole game is always left to chance. 

That's the way it's looking........which is why I always rely on Organon Sustanon.

Can't argue with HG.


DIV
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: jtsunami on July 20, 2008, 11:51:16 PM
I have read that some ppl think the organon sustanon is really from some other country manufacturing it, I have tried it before and it was totally legit, just not sure if it was real organon sustanon.
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: no one on July 21, 2008, 10:16:52 AM
Hey DIV,
 The cyp and the deca were okay compared to any ug`s I have tried. The winny and var tabs ( if not actual left overs ) were VERY good IMO.

agreed.
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: 4thAD on July 21, 2008, 10:35:04 AM
The bottom line on BD is that one of the owners is dead and the other is in prison, or headed that way (he is in US custody). The new BD that these suppliers are selling is fake, as it is not real British Dragon. I for one would not touch it. Just to give you a little reality on this new BD, one of the suppliers that sells HG gear and BD, will not guarantee the BD. This supplier is a long time very well known supplier, and will not guarantee the BD gear he sells. He will however guarantee the HG gear he sells. Go figure!
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: Overload on July 21, 2008, 12:58:05 PM
The bottom line on BD is that one of the owners is dead and the other is in prison, or headed that way (he is in US custody). The new BD that these suppliers are selling is fake, as it is not real British Dragon. I for one would not touch it. Just to give you a little reality on this new BD, one of the suppliers that sells HG gear and BD, will not guarantee the BD. This supplier is a long time very well known supplier, and will not guarantee the BD gear he sells. He will however guarantee the HG gear he sells. Go figure!

 ;)

Thank you.

8)
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: 4thAD on July 21, 2008, 01:12:00 PM
Haha your welcome sir!  ;D
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: DIVISION on July 21, 2008, 01:55:52 PM
The bottom line on BD is that one of the owners is dead and the other is in prison, or headed that way (he is in US custody). The new BD that these suppliers are selling is fake, as it is not real British Dragon. I for one would not touch it. Just to give you a little reality on this new BD, one of the suppliers that sells HG gear and BD, will not guarantee the BD. This supplier is a long time very well known supplier, and will not guarantee the BD gear he sells. He will however guarantee the HG gear he sells. Go figure!

If a source doesn't guarantee his own gear, you have to read between the lines on that.

No thanks.   :-X


DIV
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: 4thAD on July 21, 2008, 02:37:59 PM
If a source doesn't guarantee his own gear, you have to read between the lines on that.

No thanks.   :-X


DIV

exactly my point!
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: iron_dawg on July 22, 2008, 10:35:59 AM
i am using BD andropen275 right now with batch #'s 02/2008 and it is real and it is a very good product i have used sus before and it compares right up there with it
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: whitewidow on July 27, 2008, 12:23:45 AM
I tried the british dragon turinabol a long time ago back in 2005 and it was pretty potent stuff. definately legit..
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: jtsunami on July 27, 2008, 12:46:05 AM
I tried the british dragon turinabol a long time ago back in 2005 and it was pretty potent stuff. definately legit..

very good post
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: 4thAD on July 27, 2008, 08:06:23 AM
I tried the british dragon turinabol a long time ago back in 2005 and it was pretty potent stuff. definately legit..

Damn Widow whats up brotha! Yeah 2005 BD was pretty good gear, but this shit produced today is garbage. I have heard 50/50 on the newer orals.
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: Overload on July 27, 2008, 08:24:33 AM
a long time ago back in 2005

Exactly.

BD Stuff was good back then.

8)
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: DIVISION on July 27, 2008, 09:38:56 PM
Damn Widow whats up brotha! Yeah 2005 BD was pretty good gear, but this shit produced today is garbage. I have heard 50/50 on the newer orals.

Widow is lurking in the shadows.......   :-X




DIV
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: Rimbaud on July 27, 2008, 09:40:16 PM
Widow is lurking in the shadows.......   :-X




DIV

As usual.  ;)
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: 4thAD on July 27, 2008, 11:21:13 PM
Widow is lurking in the shadows.......   :-X




DIV

I knew he hadn't gone far!
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: Knowledge on July 30, 2008, 11:58:16 AM
Just pulled a source's price list up that has some BD labeled as "NEW" product. This BD wasn't on that list last week....
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: DIVISION on July 30, 2008, 12:01:13 PM
Just pulled a source's price list up that has some BD labeled as "NEW" product. This BD wasn't on that list last week....

Perhaps you need to discuss this with me via PM.



DIV
Title: Re: Honest opinions about BD products?
Post by: Overload on July 30, 2008, 03:07:31 PM
Just pulled a source's price list up that has some BD labeled as "NEW" product. This BD wasn't on that list last week....

UGL are making BD.

Been that way for years.

Know your source!

8)