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1. Globalized Jobs return Home
2. Sprawl Stalls (many home buyers are moving near cities)
3. 4-day work weeks
4. Less pollution
5. More Frugality
6. Less Traffic deaths
7. Cheaper insurance (if you drive less, you can qualify for cheaper insuarnce)
8. Less Traffic
9. More Cops on the beat (more cops are on bike and foot)
10. Less obesity
So, boo hoo hoo to all you liberal doomsday talkers.
Harden the fuck up.
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11. Dumb fucks everywhere crying because their ridiculously inefficient car, truck or SUV is costing them 100+ per week....
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11. Dumb fucks everywhere crying because their ridiculously inefficient car, truck or SUV is costing them 100+ per week....
Yes.
55%
=Decrease in Ford Motor Company SUV sales in June
By the way, I got this all out of the latest Time Magazine
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12: It is still cheaper than any of the world's other civilized nations.
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but you can also say goodbye to the following of alot of the food industries, transport industries and many other subsidaries.. but the progressive collapse of the fossil fuel dependence could spell a new beginning for humanity, kind of shitty i won't be here to see it i think.. :)
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The reallllly great part about higher fuel costs is how much food, services, and most other thigns we buy increase as a result.
$5 milk, you ROCK!
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The reallllly great part about higher fuel costs is how much food, services, and most other thigns we buy increase as a result.
$5 milk, you ROCK!
It all balances out
It will make people work harder, be more productive and innovative, things liberal/socialist systems do not encourage
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It all balances out
It will make people work harder, be more productive and innovative, things liberal/socialist systems do not encourage
i reallllllly don't think it will, not in today's developed society, people, specially in the country where i live in, already work way too many hours per week.
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i reallllllly don't think it will, not in today's developed society, people, specially in the country where i live in, already work way too many hours per week.
Maybe, some will, but overall, we will rise
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It all balances out
It will make people work harder, be more productive and innovative, things liberal/socialist systems do not encourage
It'll balance out by shrinking the middle class. People will now have less spending power, so they'll spend less.
You're a 44-year old single guy with no kids. You probably have a good portfolio, probably a few hundred thou in the bank. That rocks.
however, your $800k will be worth $400k in about a year, dollar depreciation.
Your grocery bill will go from $300 a month to $500 a month.
You will have fewer chiropractic clients because it is an elective thing for many - they'll stop their weekly back cracks before they stop paying rent and food bills.
Your neighborhood will get worse, as the foreclosed homes in your city are rented to poor idiots with bad credit who fix their cars in their driveway and sell weed as a second income.
You start a lot of "Look at me, I'm a jingoist!" threads, but the reality is that no matter how self-reliant you are, prices are going to go up, and there are going to be a lot more poor people around you. This makes your being robbed at banks more and more likely to occur.
Every one of us here would rob a stranger to feed our kids, right? If there was no work, no chance to earn it legally, we'd all steal a loaf of bread or grab some guy's wad and he leaves a bank. Sadly, as the middle class shrinks and people no longer can afford what they're used to, many will resort to crime.
Your celebrating the fact that many are getting poor shows you truly don't understand how these poor people will affect you. You will.
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You're a 44-year old single guy with no kids.
My Gaydar is going crazy over here...
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It'll balance out by shrinking the middle class. People will now have less spending power, so they'll spend less.
You're a 44-year old single guy with no kids. You probably have a good portfolio, probably a few hundred thou in the bank. That rocks.
however, your $800k will be worth $400k in about a year, dollar depreciation.
Your grocery bill will go from $300 a month to $500 a month.
You will have fewer chiropractic clients because it is an elective thing for many - they'll stop their weekly back cracks before they stop paying rent and food bills.
Your neighborhood will get worse, as the foreclosed homes in your city are rented to poor idiots with bad credit who fix their cars in their driveway and sell weed as a second income.
You start a lot of "Look at me, I'm a jingoist!" threads, but the reality is that no matter how self-reliant you are, prices are going to go up, and there are going to be a lot more poor people around you. This makes your being robbed at banks more and more likely to occur.
Every one of us here would rob a stranger to feed our kids, right? If there was no work, no chance to earn it legally, we'd all steal a loaf of bread or grab some guy's wad and he leaves a bank. Sadly, as the middle class shrinks and people no longer can afford what they're used to, many will resort to crime.
Your celebrating the fact that many are getting poor shows you truly don't understand how these poor people will affect you. You will.
High prices are here to stay that I'm sure of.
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It'll balance out by shrinking the middle class. People will now have less spending power, so they'll spend less.
Perhaps
You're a 44-year old single guy with no kids. You probably have a good portfolio, probably a few hundred thou in the bank. That rocks.
Work hundred hr weeks for many years-my fault!
however, your $800k will be worth $400k in about a year, dollar depreciation.
Your grocery bill will go from $300 a month to $500 a month.
You will have fewer chiropractic clients because it is an elective thing for many - they'll stop their weekly back cracks before they stop paying rent and food bills.
In MY case, no. I do personal injury, not delegated by co-pays, but yes, many in the professions who do cash may take a hit.
Your neighborhood will get worse, as the foreclosed homes in your city are rented to poor idiots with bad credit who fix their cars in their driveway and sell weed as a second income.
Hmmm...some neighborhoods will, but not where I practice. It is inhabited by old money
You start a lot of "Look at me, I'm a jingoist!" threads, but the reality is that no matter how self-reliant you are, prices are going to go up, and there are going to be a lot more poor people around you. This makes your being robbed at banks more and more likely to occur.
Jingoism or not, society NEEDS people who at least THINK like me. Alot of the suffering , if you want to call it that, is psychogenic...deleteriou s thinking caused by yellow jouranilsm
Every one of us here would rob a stranger to feed our kids, right? If there was no work, no chance to earn it legally, we'd all steal a loaf of bread or grab some guy's wad and he leaves a bank. Sadly, as the middle class shrinks and people no longer can afford what they're used to, many will resort to crime.
THAT is not going to happen. It is no where that bad and will not happen
Your celebrating the fact that many are getting poor shows you truly don't understand how these poor people will affect you. You will.
I NEVER revel in the misfortunes of others. I lived in the YMCA in the early 90's when I was very sick.
I did not com plain.
I became a self-made man.
ANYONE can DECIDE to do what I do
YOu are way OFF thinking I celebrate that.
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My Gaydar is going crazy over here...
I could tell you about the hundreds of male and femnale patients who wish they were me after loosing everything in divorces and making their poor kids suffer.
'Marriage' aint for everyone, scholar.
I devote my life to helping others.
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I could tell you about the hundreds of male and femnale patients who wish they were me after loosing everything in divorces and making their poor kids suffer.
'Marriage' aint for everyone, scholar.
I devote my life to helping others.
It's alright brother, I'm a fag too.
hahahaha.
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It's alright brother, I'm a fag too.
hahahaha.
too bad for you
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moosey, YOU are a self-made man who could thrive and flourish if we were back in caveman times.
We all agree with that.
The problem is the other 310 million folks who live in the USA, many of which tend to be dependent, and get very violent.
I fear you're insulated as you live in the very nice CT and many of those in your area are wealthy.
In SW Florida, where tourism died and 25% of construction workforce is laid off, home invasions and "follow you home from grocery store and rob you in the driveway" incidents have skyrocketd in the last few months.
This is a sign of what could come to nicer areas, later, when their industry dies off.
Poor people are spending less. In 3-6 months, you'll see your portfolio shrink as a result of this. As will all your neighbors. The ones living check-to-check will lose their homes. It'll riupple.
Every one of us here would rob a stranger to feed our kids, right? If there was no work, no chance to earn it legally, we'd all steal a loaf of bread or grab some guy's wad and he leaves a bank. Sadly, as the middle class shrinks and people no longer can afford what they're used to, many will resort to crime.
THAT is not going to happen. It is no where that bad and will not happen
You can say that now, but I never thought I'd have people running up in homes in south florida in middle of night for $200. But it's happening. Local breakins, robbery, shooting will definitely hit poor areas first.
BUT
Rest assured, eventually, if the trend continues, they'll discover a lot of rich suckers, slipping (carring cash in open), feeling mighty safe in connecticut. And yes, they'll be hitting your ass up for $ shortly.
I thought your 'getting robbed' experience would wake you up to this. 2 years ago, that man probably didn't want to rob. Today, he chooses to do it. Times they are a changin.
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too bad for you
I'm here for you when you admit the truth to yourself and finally come out of the closet....
::)
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moosey, YOU are a self-made man who could thrive and flourish if we were back in caveman times.
We all agree with that.
The problem is the other 310 million folks who live in the USA, many of which tend to be dependent, and get very violent.
I fear you're insulated as you live in the very nice CT and many of those in your area are wealthy.
But, 240, I am from both sides of the tracks. I would not be blindsided by any type of calamity, and I am empathetic to the struggles of others.
And, there are shitty parts of CT, believe me
In SW Florida, where tourism died and 25% of construction workforce is laid off, home invasions and "follow you home from grocery store and rob you in the driveway" incidents have skyrocketd in the last few months.
Yes, maybe the dude who got my hundred bucks is there!
This is a sign of what could come to nicer areas, later, when their industry dies off.
Poor people are spending less. In 3-6 months, you'll see your portfolio shrink as a result of this. As will all your neighbors. The ones living check-to-check will lose their homes. It'll riupple.
COULD happen. Anything could happen. The moon could explode
Every one of us here would rob a stranger to feed our kids, right? If there was no work, no chance to earn it legally, we'd all steal a loaf of bread or grab some guy's wad and he leaves a bank. Sadly, as the middle class shrinks and people no longer can afford what they're used to, many will resort to crime.
Perhaps
THAT is not going to happen. It is no where that bad and will not happen
You can say that now, but I never thought I'd have people running up in homes in south florida in middle of night for $200. But it's happening. Local breakins, robbery, shooting will definitely hit poor areas first.
BUT
Rest assured, eventually, if the trend continues, they'll discover a lot of rich suckers, slipping (carring cash in open), feeling mighty safe in connecticut. And yes, they'll be hitting your ass up for $ shortly.
I thought your 'getting robbed' experience would wake you up to this. 2 years ago, that man probably didn't want to rob. Today, he chooses to do it. Times they are a changin.
Times ALWAYS change
We must adapt. That is the spirit that has built America. It is still alive. There is just as much good to concentrate on.
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I pay for my own health insurance.
It costs me about 5 thousand $ per year for full blue cross coverage.
My hospital surgery copay is $500.
Why complain about a $500 copay when it for something as important as surgery?
My health woes since last December has cost over $90 thousand....I have about $3000 of it.
Anthem takes care of the rest.
Unbelievable.
ONLY in America.
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It'll balance out by shrinking the middle class. People will now have less spending power, so they'll spend less.
You're a 44-year old single guy with no kids. You probably have a good portfolio, probably a few hundred thou in the bank. That rocks.
however, your $800k will be worth $400k in about a year, dollar depreciation.
Your grocery bill will go from $300 a month to $500 a month.
You will have fewer chiropractic clients because it is an elective thing for many - they'll stop their weekly back cracks before they stop paying rent and food bills.
Your neighborhood will get worse, as the foreclosed homes in your city are rented to poor idiots with bad credit who fix their cars in their driveway and sell weed as a second income.
You start a lot of "Look at me, I'm a jingoist!" threads, but the reality is that no matter how self-reliant you are, prices are going to go up, and there are going to be a lot more poor people around you. This makes your being robbed at banks more and more likely to occur.
Every one of us here would rob a stranger to feed our kids, right? If there was no work, no chance to earn it legally, we'd all steal a loaf of bread or grab some guy's wad and he leaves a bank. Sadly, as the middle class shrinks and people no longer can afford what they're used to, many will resort to crime.
Your celebrating the fact that many are getting poor shows you truly don't understand how these poor people will affect you. You will.
with that logic you're saying that the world will devolve economically into necessity only - thats not the nature of the human race at all... it's not like it's going to be a total disaster, it won't last for a century haha, but saying that - you picked a pretty bad profession to be in then, spend big now on ads gogogogogogo lol :P
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it is interesting that with the price of gas around $4.50 the demand has dropped, which has caused a barrel of oil to drop to the $130.
simply supply and demand economics in actions. With that said I think that the government should institute a gas surcharge to artifically inflate the price to $8/gallon.
within a 5 year period every car on the road would a hybrid of some sort. People would start buying car with the higher mileage, thus forcing car manufactures to create even more efficient cars.
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it is interesting that with the price of gas around $4.50 the demand has dropped, which has caused a barrel of oil to drop to the $130.
simply supply and demand economics in actions. With that said I think that the government should institute a gas surcharge to artifically inflate the price to $8/gallon.
within a 5 year period every car on the road would a hybrid of some sort. People would start buying car with the higher mileage, thus forcing car manufactures to create even more efficient cars.
yeah it is like that hey... bastard oil companies
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11. Dumb fucks everywhere crying because their ridiculously inefficient car, truck or SUV is costing them 100+ per week....
LOL. First game of the season, my bud comes roaring into the parking lot with a tricked-out '08 Avalanche. A real beauty. Says he has always wanted one, and now, finally, he has it! These days, he complains it takes $8-10 just to get to each game. He's farked. :D
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with that logic you're saying that the world will devolve economically into necessity only - thats not the nature of the human race at all... it's not like it's going to be a total disaster, it won't last for a century haha
oh, we'll definitely recover. I think it'll ba a year-long slup though, as we are forced as a society to start working a tad harder. In the next year, the dollar will drop then recover. Unnecessary industries - like construciton on houses nobody needed, or tourism, or many of the mortgage, etc, will take a backseat for a bit. The ripples will sting, but it's all cyclical. We're paying off Bush's wars right now.
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with the rise of gas & everything else related (food, clothes, etc..) & the economy going down....crime is on the rise.
It's a fact.
Not seeing a lot of profit coming from this except for the fat cats with their hands deep in others pockets.
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oh, we'll definitely recover. I think it'll ba a year-long slup though, as we are forced as a society to start working a tad harder. In the next year, the dollar will drop then recover. Unnecessary industries - like construciton on houses nobody needed, or tourism, or many of the mortgage, etc, will take a backseat for a bit. The ripples will sting, but it's all cyclical. We're paying off Bush's wars right now.
Well...in all seriousness...the economy has been in a decline for the last two years...especially here in California.
The shit I think were feeling now is ONLY going to get worse before it gets better & the better will be equivalent to what the economy was feeling LAST year.
I don't think our economy will ever see the climb it once saw 4-5 years ago & alot of it has to do with our worthless US dollar being spent on money we don't have in the war in Iraq.
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i think i should buy a scooter :-\
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It'll balance out by shrinking the middle class. People will now have less spending power, so they'll spend less.
You're a 44-year old single guy with no kids. You probably have a good portfolio, probably a few hundred thou in the bank. That rocks.
however, your $800k will be worth $400k in about a year, dollar depreciation.
Your grocery bill will go from $300 a month to $500 a month.
You will have fewer chiropractic clients because it is an elective thing for many - they'll stop their weekly back cracks before they stop paying rent and food bills.
Your neighborhood will get worse, as the foreclosed homes in your city are rented to poor idiots with bad credit who fix their cars in their driveway and sell weed as a second income.
You start a lot of "Look at me, I'm a jingoist!" threads, but the reality is that no matter how self-reliant you are, prices are going to go up, and there are going to be a lot more poor people around you. This makes your being robbed at banks more and more likely to occur.
Every one of us here would rob a stranger to feed our kids, right? If there was no work, no chance to earn it legally, we'd all steal a loaf of bread or grab some guy's wad and he leaves a bank. Sadly, as the middle class shrinks and people no longer can afford what they're used to, many will resort to crime.
Your celebrating the fact that many are getting poor shows you truly don't understand how these poor people will affect you. You will.
Good post, this isn't just affecting the poor.
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you whining liberal pussies.
the gas prices have nothing to do with "supply and demand". it's nothing but a markup on commodities trading that's artificially inflated due to heavy money inflow there because of shitty stock performance of the last couple years.
the second big cap companies reported profits (like this week) oil drops due to massive sell offs and return of cash to the stock market.
as alex23 (i think) mentioned, oil will drop, i believe to under 100 a barrell by the end of the year. let's hope i'm right.
i don't know about this "mad max" type shit that everyone's talking about. in the US , there's a demand for 250,000 new houses a year (in addition to housing). it's believed that there are 750,000 new & existing homes in excess of demand right now, meaning if no one built any houses for 3 years, we'd be back to "normal" within the housing economy.
thanks to rampant horrible lending tactics and greed, banks have lent money to almost everyone on the street who wanted a mortgage, once again causing a run up in prices that was artificial (much like oil right now). that bubble popped, banks got destroyed, and people got kicked out of the homes they couldn't afford in the first place.
besides, look at the worldly markets. european & asian markets are getting killed even worse, because at the end of the day, US still dictates the world. when us falls, the world falls harder.
this "crisis" is nothing but a cleanup tool , whether it's for inefficient cars we don't need, or black women with 9 kids buying mansions when they're on welfare. it'll all sort itself out in the end.
this isn't the first time it happened.
(http://safehaven.com/images/contrary/3875_a.png)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States
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It all balances out
It will make people work harder, be more productive and innovative, things liberal/socialist systems do not encourage
I can't wait to see you in my workplace. Where people constantly come up to me and ask "Why has the price of your product gone up a dollar over the last year? And now I notice that the size has gone from 1.75q, to a 1.5q but the price remains the same. So now you've raise the price AND cut the amount of product we're getting! >:( WHY!?!?!?!"
This question I have to answer AT LEAST 7-8 times a day. People of all ages, stature and income ask me this. Guys in fancy thousand dollar suits; they didn't get rich by spending every penny they have you know! Kids, old farts that makes Wes & Moosejay seem like they're 15 years old.
Everyone needs to eat. But the price of dairy is going up and seems to continue to raise with almost every passing day. Gas is a a major factor here too. Probably the biggest. How does the product get from the factory, to the depots, then finally the store? How do the employees get to the stores, company cars or not? They need GAS.
Gas prices are through the roof. Took me $873 to fill up my truck with diesel awhile back. Now we have 20+ trucks running around our area that fill up with that price tag every week or so.
Gets pretty ridiculous really fast.
But people have to eat, right?
How do you think it will all balance out? This is a Jerry Seinfeld episode where every time he loses some money, he finds another equal amount in the jacket he's wearing that night to balance out the prior loss.
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11. Dumb fucks everywhere crying because their ridiculously inefficient car, truck or SUV is costing them 100+ per week....
Funny i just "tried" to fill our Tahoe and the pump actually stopped at $100 (it wasn't even full yet >:()
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Funny i just "tried" to fill our Tahoe and the pump actually stopped at $100 (it wasn't even full yet >:()
Mine stops at $75. Unless I fill up at a half a tank, I don't see a full tank. >:( And it STILL costs $75. >:( >:( >:(
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The reallllly great part about higher fuel costs is how much food, services, and most other thigns we buy increase as a result.
$5 milk, you ROCK!
Yep. Bag of Apples I used to buy for $7, is now $10. AWESOME!
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News here said the US is headed for the worst "recession" since the 30s. No way I'm moving back to the US in the immediate future... unless of course Australia goes to shit as well. :-\
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$4 Gas is about what most Europeans paid for gas 10 years ago, so no big deal. Just get better cars and buy more fresh local food instead of processed junk that has been shipped around the world.
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this isn't the first time it happened.
(http://safehaven.com/images/contrary/3875_a.png)
I'd love to see 2008 on that image
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It'll balance out by shrinking the middle class. People will now have less spending power, so they'll spend less.
You're a 44-year old single guy with no kids. You probably have a good portfolio, probably a few hundred thou in the bank. That rocks.
however, your $800k will be worth $400k in about a year, dollar depreciation.
Your grocery bill will go from $300 a month to $500 a month.
You will have fewer chiropractic clients because it is an elective thing for many - they'll stop their weekly back cracks before they stop paying rent and food bills.
Your neighborhood will get worse, as the foreclosed homes in your city are rented to poor idiots with bad credit who fix their cars in their driveway and sell weed as a second income.
You start a lot of "Look at me, I'm a jingoist!" threads, but the reality is that no matter how self-reliant you are, prices are going to go up, and there are going to be a lot more poor people around you. This makes your being robbed at banks more and more likely to occur.
Every one of us here would rob a stranger to feed our kids, right? If there was no work, no chance to earn it legally, we'd all steal a loaf of bread or grab some guy's wad and he leaves a bank. Sadly, as the middle class shrinks and people no longer can afford what they're used to, many will resort to crime.
Your celebrating the fact that many are getting poor shows you truly don't understand how these poor people will affect you. You will.
Very true 240, its so funny people dont see this. They think they will not be affected but sooner or later everyone will be affected. Why celebrate that Ford is having to close 3 plants? Just more people now who will be straining the system, eventually it will colapse.
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Very true 240, its so funny people dont see this. They think they will not be affected but sooner or later everyone will be affected. Why celebrate that Ford is having to close 3 plants? Just more people now who will be straining the system, eventually it will colapse.
I see it as more of an adjustment, than a collapse. The US economy WILL NOT collapse. We have too many missile in too many worldwide backyards, and too many fingers in too many banks. We've just weakened the buck by borrowing $5 trillion from world banks in the last 7 years.
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$4 Gas is about what most Europeans paid for gas 10 years ago, so no big deal. Just get better cars and buy more fresh local food instead of processed junk that has been shipped around the world.
true...but the public transportation systems are better equipped there in Europe compared to places like California.
The average person in california commute 30,000-40,000 miles per YEAR
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you whining liberal pussies.
the gas prices have nothing to do with "supply and demand". it's nothing but a markup on commodities trading that's artificially inflated due to heavy money inflow there because of shitty stock performance of the last couple years.
the second big cap companies reported profits (like this week) oil drops due to massive sell offs and return of cash to the stock market.
as alex23 (i think) mentioned, oil will drop, i believe to under 100 a barrell by the end of the year. let's hope i'm right.
I believe a barrel of oil will be about 50-60$ after election
i don't know about this "mad max" type shit that everyone's talking about. in the US , there's a demand for 250,000 new houses a year (in addition to housing). it's believed that there are 750,000 new & existing homes in excess of demand right now, meaning if no one built any houses for 3 years, we'd be back to "normal" within the housing economy.
thanks to rampant horrible lending tactics and greed, banks have lent money to almost everyone on the street who wanted a mortgage, once again causing a run up in prices that was artificial (much like oil right now). that bubble popped, banks got destroyed, and people got kicked out of the homes they couldn't afford in the first place.
besides, look at the worldly markets. european & asian markets are getting killed even worse, because at the end of the day, US still dictates the world. when us falls, the world falls harder.
Absolutely
this "crisis" is nothing but a cleanup tool , whether it's for inefficient cars we don't need, or black women with 9 kids buying mansions when they're on welfare. it'll all sort itself out in the end.
Yes.
this isn't the first time it happened.
(http://safehaven.com/images/contrary/3875_a.png)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States
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I can't wait to see you in my workplace. Where people constantly come up to me and ask "Why has the price of your product gone up a dollar over the last year? And now I notice that the size has gone from 1.75q, to a 1.5q but the price remains the same. So now you've raise the price AND cut the amount of product we're getting! >:( WHY!?!?!?!"
This question I have to answer AT LEAST 7-8 times a day. People of all ages, stature and income ask me this. Guys in fancy thousand dollar suits; they didn't get rich by spending every penny they have you know! Kids, old farts that makes Wes & Moosejay seem like they're 15 years old.
I don't get it....?
Everyone needs to eat. But the price of dairy is going up and seems to continue to raise with almost every passing day. Gas is a a major factor here too. Probably the biggest. How does the product get from the factory, to the depots, then finally the store? How do the employees get to the stores, company cars or not? They need GAS.
Gas prices are through the roof. Took me $873 to fill up my truck with diesel awhile back. Now we have 20+ trucks running around our area that fill up with that price tag every week or so.
Gets pretty ridiculous really fast.
But people have to eat, right?
How do you think it will all balance out? This is a Jerry Seinfeld episode where every time he loses some money, he finds another equal amount in the jacket he's wearing that night to balance out the prior loss.
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Cheaper than europe, quit bitching and make more money. I realize the libs hate capitolism....but fuck em anyways!
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Cheaper than europe, quit bitching and make more money. I realize the libs hate capitolism....but fuck em anyways!
Livs are sour and miserable and detest anyone who has success.
We raise the bar, make them look bad, and then they have to work harder (But they don't...they wine.)
WE build the country...they occupy it, wallowing with pap such as "Woe is me, why are things so bad"
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....And if you make money, they feel entitled to tax the f**k out of you and take it away!
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....And if you make money, they feel entitled to tax the f**k out of you and take it away!
Gotta be cunning......don't wanta feed the 'entitled'.....everyone should man up for themselves
Fuck the handouts.
I pay over 50k overhead per month for two businesses...sole proprietor...and make it each month....the slackers can learn from this.
Use my model.
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Fuck the handouts.
Should we stop all societal handouts? All welfare, all health coverage for the poor?
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What health coverage for the poor? You mean the county hospitals?
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Gotta be cunning......don't wanta feed the 'entitled'.....everyone should man up for themselves
Fuck the handouts.
I pay over 50k overhead per month for two businesses...sole proprietor...and make it each month....the slackers can learn from this.
Use my model.
I agree , all of us , 300 millions Americans should go to college and become doctors ,lawyers , CEOs.....etc.and make lots of money .
Who needs ,construccion workers,teachers ,garbageman ,cops ,waitress,....etc. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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What health coverage for the poor? You mean the county hospitals?
Nah, like the free medical that a lot of poor people get. medicade, I think?
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I don't don't get it...?
You're older than most people on this (and many others) board. I was making a comparison that if you are old at age forty, than you're a young tyke compared to the geriatric set that I was originally referring to.
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It's alright brother, I'm a fag too.
hahahaha.
haha the cheap chicken hawk
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I live right around the corner from a ton of organic farms so I get organinc milk for 1.99 a gallon, jumbo organic eggs for 1.79 a dozen and black angus beef 1.99 a lb when bought in quanity!
blueberries 1.50 a lb and the list goes on ;)
work from home , so gas runs me about 10 bucks a week!
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You're older than most people on this (and many others) board. I was making a comparison that if you are old at age forty, than you're a young tyke compared to the geriatric set that I was originally referring to.
Gotcha!
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Nah, like the free medical that a lot of poor people get. medicade, I think?
240
50% of ALL
Medical hospital bills
go unpaid
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I agree , all of us , 300 millions Americans should go to college and become doctors ,lawyers , CEOs.....etc.and make lots of money .
Who needs ,construccion workers,teachers ,garbageman ,cops ,waitress,....etc. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Whateva...please post those pics of your prejudging...you don't look too good.... :-X
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I live right around the corner from a ton of organic farms so I get organinc milk for 1.99 a gallon, jumbo organic eggs for 1.79 a dozen and black angus beef 1.99 a lb when bought in quanity!
blueberries 1.50 a lb and the list goes on ;)
work from home , so gas runs me about 10 bucks a week!
do you work at the store?
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240
50% of ALL
Medical hospital bills
go unpaid
So should we stop refusing medical care to those without insurance? yes or no?
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Should we stop all societal handouts? All welfare, all health coverage for the poor?
There is tons of ffraudluence, waste and bullshit with this 'dole' system.
It should be reduced, not fortified
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do you work at the store?
no, those are prices for anyone!
the farm has no delivery cost when selling off thier own lot, so the prices are very low, look for farm stands durring the summer!
also look for farms that sell meat in your state , you buy in bulk and save a ton if you pick it up yourself...unless you have to drive 2 hrs and spend 40 bucks on gas!
if I went to the supermarket around the corner my bill would be double for the same stuff..
when I live in nj and shopped at whole foods my bill was about 3x what I pay now for the same stuff..
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So should we stop refusing medical care to those without insurance? yes or no?
Never, ever refuse someone in need.
I eat about 10% of patient bills...very good rate in my p;rofession.
However
those who crawl into ER's seeking help, should get it
But PAY for it
even ifit takes years
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1. Globalized Jobs return Home
2. Sprawl Stalls (many home buyers are moving near cities)
3. 4-day work weeks this is not happening, where did this come from?
4. Less pollutionno theres not
5. More Frugality
6. Less Traffic deathstraffic has not been reduced so this is void
7. Cheaper insurance (if you drive less, you can qualify for cheaper insuarnce)its still a rip-off exploitative scam
8. Less Traffic i have noticed no decrease in traffic if anything there is more traffic than ever before
9. More Cops on the beat (more cops are on bike and foot) certainly have not noticed less cop cars around.
10. Less obesityamerica still getting fatter, nobody is changing lifestyles
So, boo hoo hoo to all you liberal doomsday talkers.
Harden the fuck up.
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Like I said:
Boo Hoo Hoo, weak-spermed libs
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your not even making sense 'moosejew'
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Everything financial is cyclical. We've had oil bubbles before and we'll certainly have them again. Right now we're going through some tough times because of reckless mortgage lending. This will eventually pass, but who the hell knows when.
Another good consequence of the oil bubble: we're producing more oil domestically. Many new oil discoveries are being made and new exploration & refining techniques are being developed. In other words, we are setting the stage for a big oil bust in 1 decade or so.
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i think i should buy a scooter :-\
http://www.simplymopeds.com/bikeshowroom.htm
problem is; what r u going to drive in winter ;D
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1. Globalized Jobs return Home
2. Sprawl Stalls (many home buyers are moving near cities)
3. 04-day work weeks
4. Less Pollution
5. More Frugality
6. Less Traffic deaths
7. Cheaper insurance (if you drive less, you can qualify for cheaper insuarnce)
8. Less Traffic
9. More Cops on the beat (more cops are on bike and foot)
10. Less Obesity
So, boo hoo hoo to all you liberal doomsday talkers.
Harden the fuck up.
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Nice.
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You can say that now, but I never thought I'd have people running up in homes in south florida in middle of night for $200. But it's happening. Local breakins, robbery, shooting will definitely hit poor areas first.
hasn't this always been common in south florida?
crime in that area seems to make national news more than any other place in the country
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I live right around the corner from a ton of organic farms so I get organinc milk for 1.99 a gallon, jumbo organic eggs for 1.79 a dozen and black angus beef 1.99 a lb when bought in quanity!
blueberries 1.50 a lb and the list goes on ;)
work from home , so gas runs me about 10 bucks a week!
Who is better then you :D
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What do you think is going to happen to the price of oil when Iran is bombed (it's going to happen)? Within hours it will be $200 a barrel and after that, name your price.
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1. Globalized Jobs return Home
3. 4-day work weeks
4. Less pollution
5. More Frugality
6. Less Traffic deaths
7. Cheaper insurance (if you drive less, you can qualify for cheaper insuarnce)
8. Less Traffic
10. Less obesity
I don't think any of those are happening.
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I emit over 11 tons of carbon every year
Good ole 6.0 v8 8)
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I don't think any of those are happening.
Give it time, the Libs just within the last 6 mos got their way and oil and gas is almost where they want it even though it came down a little. They'll soon realize they oil is down too low and wait till it hits 300.00 then they will have meeting and blame Bush and big oil.........again!!
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your not even making sense 'moosejew'
My words are directed to those who understand....that naturally does not include the likes of you.
So Sorry.
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Never, ever refuse someone in need.
I eat about 10% of patient bills...very good rate in my p;rofession.
However
those who crawl into ER's seeking help, should get it
But PAY for it
even ifit takes years
This is exactly where many people do not understand some of the European systems.
A big benefit of universal healthcare - which in some countries (Switzerland and others) is not financed by the tax payer but by privately organised but mandatory health insurance - is that it protects doctors and hospitals from people who cannot or do not want to pay for medical services and it eliminates the dilemma of whether to help them or not.
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This is exactly where many people do not understand some of the European systems.
A big benefit of universal healthcare - which in some countries (Switzerland and others) is not financed by the tax payer but by privately organised but mandatory health insurance - is that it protects doctors and hospitals from people who cannot or do not want to pay for medical services and it eliminates the dilemma of whether to help them or not.
Everybody gets help here.
You will not see someone literally die in the street in America.
We would never allow being taxed at 70%
"Privately organized but MANDATORY health insurance"-just like taxes, and we don't like socialism, partner.
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Everybody gets help here.
You will not see someone literally die in the street in America.
We would never allow being taxed at 70%
"Privately organized but MANDATORY health insurance"-just like taxes, and we don't like socialism, partner.
Taxes in Switzerland are lower than in the US. This is not socialism but protection of business (Doctors, hospitals etc.). There is nothing wrong with mandatory insurance. If an uninsured driver hits you, wouldn't you wish that car insurance was mandatory and enforced. Exactly the same thing for doctors who "get hit" by uninsured emergency patients.
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Taxes in Switzerland are lower than in the US. This is not socialism but protection of business (Doctors, hospitals etc.). There is nothing wrong with mandatory insurance. If an uninsured driver hits you, wouldn't you wish that car insurance was mandatory and enforced. Exactly the same thing for doctors who "get hit" by uninsured emergency patients.
The Swiss are still forced to pay. We are forced to do nothing of the sort.
If an uninsured driver hits me, I sue my own , 5 million dollar policy.
I 'get hit' by patients who can't pay me.
Its infrequent, and I bite the bullet. Sometimes they end up referring me a patient who can pay up the road.
And, enough about the Swiss.
they refuse to back any of the US military policies, or any other countries, for that matter.
If I need surgery, insured or not, whom do I choose to perform it?
The Swiss?
Or My Yale University system of surgeons?
You may the call, Yuri.
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The reallllly great part about higher fuel costs is how much food, services, and most other thigns we buy increase as a result.
$5 milk, you ROCK!
Exactly.
Shut your fucking pie hole moose ass. You're littering of this website is annoying. Get a job and stop posting endless stupidty
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The reallllly great part about higher fuel costs is how much food, services, and most other thigns we buy increase as a result.
$5 milk, you ROCK!
Shit, try $9 here in Hawaii.
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Shit, try $9 here in Hawaii.
Seriously? My wife's from Guam and it's not even $5.00 there.
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milk is under $3 in OH.
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I am a funny looking little fellow.
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There is a reason why Republican true believers are predominantly religious... only the gullible (religious) would buy into such a barrel of horseshit!
Do you guys really believe Rupert Murdoch and the corporate financial backers of the Republican party don't have a vested interest in pushing this bullshit?
FOX News has already managed to convince most Americans of a plethora of obvious non-truths:
-that trade unions are somehow bad for workers (how?)
-that socialism, which has allowed most of Europe to go from post-war bankruptcy to surpassing the US in all positive living standards in only 50 years, is some sort of moral evil
-that capitalism is a moral absolute: correct, right and necessary under all circumstances
-that blind religious faith is a political virtue (which should influence foreign policy)
-that Bush is competent
-that war-profiteering is a free-market necessity
-that corporations have your best interests at heart
Now they have you morons convinced $140 a barrel oil is probably a good thing... WTF?!
Don't you guys know that gasoline is $2 a barrel in Mexico? Don't you guys know that gasahol (ethanol) is 25c (yes, twenty five cents!) a gallon in Brazil?
Aren't any of you Rednecks smart enough to realise that these corporate whores (Republicans) have been shitting on you for the past fifty years... now that they've convinced you to lick your lips you imbeciles are so entrenched in your thinking you feel the need to insist it tastes good!
The Luke
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I work for home now 2 days a week and I've seen a very noticeable difference in my gas spending. Goddamn SUV's!
Any stock investors here? It's so funny how most investment firms and banks in the financial sector reported lower than expected losses this past week. Apparently, that caused a 3 day DOW surge where you have experts thinking that a recovery is on the upswing in the economy. Then tech stocks like Google and Microsoft get hammered and bring it right back down again.
What a joke when lower than expected losses from financial firms such as Citigroup can instill hope these days. Merril lynch got hammered. These are still big losses nonetheless and the companies are still in the red because of the credit crisis. But that causes the stock market to rebound? Unreal.
If you're an investor, now's a good time to buy blue chip stocks at a bargain price. But that will cause the market to be oversold once again like it did all of the month of July.
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There is a reason why Republican true believers are predominantly religious... only the gullible (religious) would buy into such a barrel of horseshit!
Do you guys really believe Rupert Murdoch and the corporate financial backers of the Republican party don't have a vested interest in pushing this bullshit?
FOX News has already managed to convince most Americans of a plethora of obvious non-truths:
-that trade unions are somehow bad for workers (how?)
-that socialism, which has allowed most of Europe to go from post-war bankruptcy to surpassing the US in all positive living standards in only 50 years, is some sort of moral evil
-that capitalism is a moral absolute: correct, right and necessary under all circumstances
-that blind religious faith is a political virtue (which should influence foreign policy)
-that Bush is competent
-that war-profiteering is a free-market necessity
-that corporations have your best interests at heart
Now they have you morons convinced $140 a barrel oil is probably a good thing... WTF?!
Don't you guys know that gasoline is $2 a barrel in Mexico? Don't you guys know that gasahol (ethanol) is 25c (yes, twenty five cents!) a gallon in Brazil?
Aren't any of you Rednecks smart enough to realise that these corporate whores (Republicans) have been shitting on you for the past fifty years... now that they've convinced you to lick your lips you imbeciles are so entrenched in your thinking you feel the need to insist it tastes good!
The Luke
I am not religious.
Go dig for some potatoes, socialist
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I am not religious.
Go dig for some potatoes, socialist
Well, I really attacked three inclusive and overlapping groups there: the religious; religious morons and ordinary morons... if you are not religious, then I assume you took such offense because you self-identify with the third group.
That's okay, I never expected anything other than insults from your group... it's not as if you're capable of arguing the issues.
The Luke
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Well, I really attacked three inclusive and overlapping groups there: the religious; religious morons and ordinary morons... if you are not religious, then I assume you took such offense because you self-identify with the third group.
That's okay, I never expected anything other than insults from your group... it's not as if you're capable of arguing the issues.
The Luke
I identify with none of your pap.
HTH
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hasn't this always been common in south florida?
crime in that area seems to make national news more than any other place in the country
SW FL was one of the highest segregated areas in the country. Sarasota used to be #1 in nation. The drug shelf was very separate from the business districts, elderly parks, family zones, etc.
It's weird, but it kept crime down. There was plenty of work for everyone - bit labor shortage until 1 year ago.
Once construction market crashed (when people stopped building houses - often mid-construction), it got a LOT worse.
This week some prick shot a cop in the face in the pizza place where I eat twice a month.
last week they arrested the guy who did 10+ armed home invasions, where he wakes you up with gun in mouth and has shot and wounded a few folks for fun.
last month amanda dunbar's sister's man killed her and came to Ft Myers to kill himself.
It's bad lately. Everyone is broke. I'm not... I have 5+ sources of income.. band, writer, local tech, websites, etc... but locally, money isn't there for many. It's getting worse. Tourism sucks, construciton sucks, real estate is horrible. Our whole economy was built on those 3.
Education and healthcare are the other 2 foundations of FL economy.
Education just got cut something like 10% statewide... lots of new unemployed teachers, 25 years old with a worthless degree, subbing 2 days a week for $85 a day.
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There is nothing I can find that I "like" about $4 gas >:(
But if I were gaining something from it I could ::) 'nuff said
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I have to laugh when guys like Moosejay go on about how the USA is the best country in the world. I was in New York on business last week and the vibe I got was a doomsday scenario. Over here in the UK Gas is $12 a UK gallon (which is about $10 a US gallon). Our minimum wage is $11 an hour in the UK but a waiter I spoke to in a restaurant told me the minimum wage in the US as something like $3-$4 an hour? Can this be true ????? Seems that a very small minority (like the Bush family) earn vast sums of money in the US while the rest are so poor they worry about a $4.00 gallon.
In UK we have free health care. In Scotland we even have free University education (English have to pay ha ha).
As to cap it all, you have all these fat black and very loud Negro people all over the place. Why are they so loud and why do they have such fat backsides.
Best country in the world ? Think again. I also have to laugh about how American is the land of the Free. This is not true, I remember the communist witch trials etc. You have to watch what you say and do in the USA or the CIA will not be happy. UK, France, Germany, Canada, Australia, New Zeland, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Italy etc etc etc and much more free than the USA.
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I have to laugh when guys like Moosejay go on about how the USA is the best country in the world. I was in New York on business last week blah blah blah blah...
Go back to making up stories about shit. At least when you post those, they're entertaining. :D