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Title: HCG questions
Post by: mopar_freak on July 20, 2008, 01:28:37 PM
hey guys, i have some questions about    HCG's is taken. From what i know, you mix the power with the water and then inject. but what i don't know is.
1. do you inject intramuscular?
2.do you take it with clomid or after
3. how much would 5000 j.m. be in i.u.'s?
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: MLAT on July 20, 2008, 01:46:16 PM
It is taken sub q.  Yes you can take clomid with it.  I dont know what j.m. is.
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: Monster81 on July 20, 2008, 01:56:24 PM
hey guys, i have some questions about    HCG's is taken. From what i know, you mix the power with the water and then inject. but what i don't know is.
1. do you inject intramuscular?
2.do you take it with clomid or after
3. how much would 5000 j.m. be in i.u.'s?

1. yes u can inject it intra muscular
2.u take it for 2 weeks E3D and then follow it up with clomid for 1 or2 weeks depending on how u respond
3.imo 1500-2000iu would be enough E3D for 2 weeks
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: mopar_freak on July 20, 2008, 03:41:44 PM
the bottle is not in english and it says 5000j.m.

anyone know what that is?
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: Emmortal on July 20, 2008, 03:58:06 PM
the bottle is not in english and it says 5000j.m.

anyone know what that is?


5000ius.
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: 4thAD on July 20, 2008, 03:59:16 PM
That might be IU's, but I am not sure. HCG can be administered either IM, or subQ. The easiest way to use it IMO is subq. I have posted many times on HCG, and the proper administration. There are two schools of thought when it comes to HCG. There is a sticky above for the use of HCG in PCT, or you can use it throughout your cycle. If your young, care about your balls, and you want to have the best possible chance of protecting them, I would use HCG during your cycle. HCG during the cycle will protect the leydig cells, keeping your balls full and functioning. Which in turn will make recovery much easier. The way I personally use HCG is either 500iu 2xew, or 500iu e3d (72 hours). HCG should be started at the very start of your cycle, as shut down begins immediately. I have posted in detail about the use of HCG many times, if you cant find it in the search PM me and I will post it again.
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: Big_Tymer on July 20, 2008, 09:39:47 PM
4thad - when you use 500ui 2x a week throughout the cycle do you experience any extra noticible aromatization? 
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: 4thAD on July 20, 2008, 09:43:39 PM
4thad - when you use 500ui 2x a week throughout the cycle do you experience any extra noticible aromatization? 

I think extra aromatization is a given as test levels rise. If your asking does it affect me more as far as gyno symptoms go, some times it does sometimes it doesn't. It's nothing a little of adex wont take care of. 500iu is a safe light dose of HCG. Studies have proven this dose to be very safe, and will not cause desensitization.
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: mopar_freak on July 21, 2008, 04:57:53 AM
could you post something about using it after your cycle as i only have  1 week left on my cycle and im thinking of using it as pct

thanks for the help
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: Monster81 on July 21, 2008, 06:46:06 AM
week 1 & 2: 2000iu HGC on monday and friday
week 3 & 4: 50-100 mg clomid
week 5 & 6: 10mg nolvadex (or arimidex)
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: 4thAD on July 21, 2008, 11:15:15 AM
could you post something about using it after your cycle as i only have  1 week left on my cycle and im thinking of using it as pct

thanks for the help


There is a sticky on this forum bro. I still feel HCG is a must even if not used during cycle.
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: Big_Tymer on July 21, 2008, 03:30:36 PM
I think extra aromatization is a given as test levels rise. If your asking does it affect me more as far as gyno symptoms go, some times it does sometimes it doesn't. It's nothing a little of adex wont take care of. 500iu is a safe light dose of HCG. Studies have proven this dose to be very safe, and will not cause desensitization.

yes, i was wondering as far as gyno goes.  thanks
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: 4thAD on July 21, 2008, 04:59:24 PM
let me clear something up. When I say sometimes it does affect me and sometimes it doesn't, is because I have been experimenting with provirion the last couple of cycles I have run. Provirion is wonderful if you are gyno prone. It will keep you dry and keeps aromatization down.
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: chixlegs on July 31, 2008, 09:52:36 AM
There is a sticky on this forum bro. I still feel HCG is a must even if not used during cycle.

I will be using HCG for the first time.  I will be using a few hundred mgs of test a week, I have been advised it is a good idea to use HCG throughout but I read that HCG only stays good in the fridge for 30 days after re-constituting and I will be doing the test for about 12 weeks, so basically I am thinking that it is going to go bad on me and won't last throughout the entire cycle.  Am I right about this?  What options do I have, I only have one large vial of HCG.  I guess I will just use it post cycle if this is true.  Thanks.
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: 4thAD on July 31, 2008, 10:09:11 AM
I will be using HCG for the first time.  I will be using a few hundred mgs of test a week, I have been advised it is a good idea to use HCG throughout but I read that HCG only stays good in the fridge for 30 days after re-constituting and I will be doing the test for about 12 weeks, so basically I am thinking that it is going to go bad on me and won't last throughout the entire cycle.  Am I right about this?  What options do I have, I only have one large vial of HCG.  I guess I will just use it post cycle if this is true.  Thanks.

Actually Organon Pregnyl will last 60 day's after reconstitution according to their insert. The only HCG I have seen that expires in 30 days is compound Pharma generics. You need to start the HCG on first admin of test at 500iu e3d, or 2xew, and run it up until 4 days prior to PCT with the last two administrations at 1500iu. These last two will ensure that everything is working up to par going into PCT. I have run it straight 500iu 2xew and also with the last two at 1500 and the latter seems to work best. I recommend running it while on and cycle.
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on July 31, 2008, 04:18:00 PM
Actually Organon Pregnyl will last 60 day's after reconstitution according to their insert. The only HCG I have seen that expires in 30 days is compound Pharma generics. You need to start the HCG on first admin of test at 500iu e3d, or 2xew, and run it up until 4 days prior to PCT with the last two administrations at 1500iu. These last two will ensure that everything is working up to par going into PCT. I have run it straight 500iu 2xew and also with the last two at 1500 and the latter seems to work best. I recommend running it while on and cycle.

Would 15,000 IU be sufficient for a 12 week Test E/DBOL cycle?
Title: Re: HCG questions
Post by: Emmortal on July 31, 2008, 05:19:55 PM
Would 15,000 IU be sufficient for a 12 week Test E/DBOL cycle?

If you ran it at 250ius 2x a week, which I've found personally to be fine, it would.