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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: CAPTAIN INSANO on July 21, 2008, 05:03:25 PM
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I really don't want to exceed 500 mg's..but I have 2 10 mL vials of Test E 300 mg. What dosing protocol should I use?
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how about 1/2 ml every other day
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How about 3/4 of a ml 2xew for 450mg a week? That should start you off nicely.
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If you do 1 shot every 4 days it would be equivelent to 525 per week, just barely past your limit, no big deal
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If you do 1 shot every 4 days it would be equivelent to 525 per week, just barely past your limit, no big deal
yeah thats the same as what i put, but you get steady blood levels with eod injects
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I really don't want to exceed 500 mg's..but I have 2 10 mL vials of Test E 300 mg. What dosing protocol should I use?
just use 1.5ml each week x 12-14 weeks.... easy as that.
those of us who are married, i cannot inject every 3rd day...gotta keep it a secret ;)
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just use 1.5ml each week x 12-14 weeks.... easy as that.
those of us who are married, i cannot inject every 3rd day...gotta keep it a secret ;)
seriuos, what would happen if she found out
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just use 1.5ml each week x 12-14 weeks.... easy as that.
those of us who are married, i cannot inject every 3rd day...gotta keep it a secret ;)
just tell your wifeizzle my nizzle
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she's old school, hard to explain. either way, i would rather do one injection per week myself than one every other day... i am pretty busy!
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IMO injecting long esters eod is a waste of time and way too many sticks. 2xew is fine for me. Personally I would just run 600mg ew for 2 injects a week.
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IMO injecting long esters eod is a waste of time and way too many sticks. 2xew is fine for me. Personally I would just run 600mg ew for 2 injects a week.
check out this graph on the supposedly heavy ester decoanate
even though esters are SUPPOSED to release evenly ... they do not ...
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whats the vertical axis stand for? the blood concentration? whats nM mean?
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vertical axis would be concentration in the blood of active hormone... not sure what the nM means...its a unit of something..(way to measure total amount of hormone)
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I believe one should inject as often as he can
I shoot prop ED, sure it's a pain in the ass and you have to find a thousand of injection site but it's worth it.
Lot less side effects
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check out this graph on the supposedly heavy ester decoanate
even though esters are SUPPOSED to release evenly ... they do not ...
I'm speaking from experience, not charts. Ive seen all these charts from steroid profiles many times. When I inject 2x or more frequent I feel no difference. I tolerate gear very well.
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yeah i guess if you dont feel any difference then there cant actually be any difference and al the science and studies can be just thrown out the window.
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Personally I would just run 600mg ew for 2 injects a week.
I concur.
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yeah i guess if you dont feel any difference then there cant actually be any difference and al the science and studies can be just thrown out the window.
you'll figure out this game someday! You know why Anthony Roberts has the rep he has? Because he does the same thing your doing, blabbing about science this and science that with no real world experience. He blabs about shit he hears from other people. Ive been very patient with you bro, and I'm starting to lose my patience. Get some real gear experience then start posting science backed up by real life experience. I dont give a fuck what some stupid graph says, doctors dont even prescribe 4xw injects with long esters. Prop is a different story. AJ explained this to you yesterday, about the difference between what you see on paper vs what really goes on in real life. Read up on how enanthate atoms are cleaved in your body then maybe you will have a better understanding. After a while pinning gear is no fun, you will find this out in time when your body is full of scar tissue.
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oh brother
4th youve gone off the deep end
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No really I havent, Ive just been biting my tongue! I like you Candi, I think your a smart guy, and your doing the right thing studying up on the drugs you put in your body. But you need to listen. We have a lot of good solid very knowledgeable people here, with years of experience. Years from now you'll look back and say aha, now I know what they are talking about.
For example, the best architect, or engineer in the world could engineer and draw up blue prints for a skyscraper right! Could they get in the trenches and actually put the building up with no experience. No experience using the tools needed for the job? Could they get on top of frame walls and cut and stack a conventional roof? Probably not. Could they cut the rafters for a bastard valley in that same roof? Unless they have experience doing it I guarantee they will fail. No matter what the plans say, because walls are always off. I have seen it first hand.
Running a good successful cycle and PCT is an art. Anyone can stuff their body full of gear and train and make gains, but keeping those gains, and recovering fully is learned. I learn something new from every cycle I run. No cycle is the same, nor every PCT. Their is always a monkey wrench somewhere in the mix. Just when I think I have this one down, something comes up, and I look back and think ahhh thats what so and so was referring to.
Good Luck
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hey bro, its cool that you sending over your thoughts, i appreciate that.
but its not at all cool to take the side of egotistical haters who cant accept information from me because they dont like me or dont want to believe someone younger than them can know something.
this board is full of them, and while you dont join in on the insults and hate, you take their side. when they are most obviously wrong.
thats okay however.
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hey bro, its cool that you sending over your thoughts, i appreciate that.
but its not at all cool to take the side of egotistical haters who cant accept information from me because they dont like me or dont want to believe someone younger than them can know something.
this board is full of them, and while you dont join in on the insults and hate, you take their side. when they are most obviously wrong.
thats okay however.
Your wrong on this bro! I would have no problem taking advice from you, and most probably feel the same way. One thing I am not and most can attest to this is I am in no way a hater. We have all seen those graphs and charts. The real world is different from text books. Doctors don't preform surgery fresh out of medical school for a reason. Its an art, its learned, not just from books, as some surgeries are not textbook cases.
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hey bro, its cool that you sending over your thoughts, i appreciate that.
but its not at all cool to take the side of egotistical haters who cant accept information from me because they dont like me or dont want to believe someone younger than them can know something.
this board is full of them, and while you dont join in on the insults and hate, you take their side. when they are most obviously wrong.
thats okay however.
Just because he's disagreeing with something you said in no way means he's taking "sides" Candi. You should know better. 4th has been very patient with you, more patient and helpful to you than probably most anyone here and I didn't see his post as taking sides. You need to understand that just because someone doesn't agree with what you have to say means they are joining sides with the haters.
Experience will ALWAYS trump theory. Just keep that in mind.
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Just tell your wife that you're getting blood work and all that. If you don't pin very often, it can honestly feel like you're not even on the sauce. I started pinning EOD with test e and/or sust250 and THEN I felt like I was on shit again. It really does make a world of difference.
I'm actually pretty pissed that I ran the sauce twice without doing this. I'm actually going to switch to shorter esters. It also makes PCT a heck of a lot easier. I know it can be a pain to pin all the time, pulling out your gear, swabbing your shit down, etc... but load a couple barrels ahead of time. I only load a few shots worth because I don't like an entire cycle loaded and stored away, but a few barrels in a safe location will really help.
I'm a busy guy too... any meal prep tips or "supplements" shortcuts like this really help. I hate having to reconstitute my PWO IGF-1 too... even just drawing it and switching pins is annoying. That's why I preload my shizz. :D
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hey bro, its cool that you sending over your thoughts, i appreciate that.
but its not at all cool to take the side of egotistical haters who cant accept information from me because they dont like me or dont want to believe someone younger than them can know something.
this board is full of them, and while you dont join in on the insults and hate, you take their side. when they are most obviously wrong.
thats okay however.
Paranoid-type schizophrenia is characterized by delusions and auditory hallucinations but relatively normal intellectual functioning and expression of affect. The delusions can often be about being persecuted unfairly or being some other person who is famous. People with paranoid-type schizophrenia can exhibit anger, aloofness, anxiety, and argumentativeness.
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Just tell your wife that you're getting blood work and all that. If you don't pin very often, it can honestly feel like you're not even on the sauce. I started pinning EOD with test e and/or sust250 and THEN I felt like I was on shit again. It really does make a world of difference.
I'm actually pretty pissed that I ran the sauce twice without doing this. I'm actually going to switch to shorter esters. It also makes PCT a heck of a lot easier. I know it can be a pain to pin all the time, pulling out your gear, swabbing your shit down, etc... but load a couple barrels ahead of time. I only load a few shots worth because I don't like an entire cycle loaded and stored away, but a few barrels in a safe location will really help.
I'm a busy guy too... any meal prep tips or "supplements" shortcuts like this really help. I hate having to reconstitute my PWO IGF-1 too... even just drawing it and switching pins is annoying. That's why I preload my shizz. :D
Stick to one account dude.
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you'll figure out this game someday! You know why Anthony Roberts has the rep he has? Because he does the same thing your doing, blabbing about science this and science that with no real world experience. He blabs about shit he hears from other people. Ive been very patient with you bro, and I'm starting to lose my patience. Get some real gear experience then start posting science backed up by real life experience. I dont give a fuck what some stupid graph says, doctors dont even prescribe 4xw injects with long esters. Prop is a different story. AJ explained this to you yesterday, about the difference between what you see on paper vs what really goes on in real life. Read up on how enanthate atoms are cleaved in your body then maybe you will have a better understanding. After a while pinning gear is no fun, you will find this out in time when your body is full of scar tissue.
You are using "Logic", which is something he won't understand for a few more years.
4th, you have been very helpful to me and you have also been very helpful and patient with Candi. this is becoming such a waste of time to even debate this stuff anymore.
Take care.
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Fawk it,
I'll just runn 600 mg/week :D
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You guys need to get along, man and you guys aren`t even dieting ;D. I will not say who is right, but 4thad hit it on the money when he said its an art, as stupid as it sounds. The combinations and human bodily reactions are 1000 times more complicated then a game of chess it cannot beknown by a science experiment thats for sure.
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You are using "Logic", which is something he won't understand for a few more years.
4th, you have been very helpful to me and you have also been very helpful and patient with Candi. this is becoming such a waste of time to even debate this stuff anymore.
Take care.
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Paranoid-type schizophrenia is characterized by delusions and auditory hallucinations but relatively normal intellectual functioning and expression of affect. The delusions can often be about being persecuted unfairly or being some other person who is famous. People with paranoid-type schizophrenia can exhibit anger, aloofness, anxiety, and argumentativeness.
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Paranoid-type schizophrenia is characterized by delusions and auditory hallucinations but relatively normal intellectual functioning and expression of affect. The delusions can often be about being persecuted unfairly or being some other person who is famous. People with paranoid-type schizophrenia can exhibit anger, aloofness, anxiety, and argumentativeness.
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C'mon candi don't let these guys get a rise out of you, we are all brothers in the iron game.
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yeah i guess if you dont feel any difference then there cant actually be any difference and al the science and studies can be just thrown out the window.
What are you talking about? Your graph clearly shows that the decanoate ester maintains relatively even blood levels for 10 days after injection.
Enanthate has a half life of 7-10 days and deconaoate has a half life between 7-12 days (right skewed). This supports the fact that enanthate can be injected once a week. The enanthate ester WAS DESIGNED for slow release so that weekly or bi-montly injections would suffice.
You don't know how to interpret studies, you don't know how to interpret graphs, you don't have a college education and you have no scientific experience. Go get some formal education or find another hobby besides giving bro-ology steroid advice.
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What are you talking about? Your graph clearly shows that the decanoate ester maintains relatively even blood levels for 10 days after injection.
Enanthate has a half life of 7-10 days and deconaoate has a half life between 7-12 days (right skewed). This supports the fact that enanthate can be injected once a week. The enanthate ester WAS DESIGNED for slow release so that weekly or bi-montly injections would suffice.
You don't know how to interpret studies, you don't know how to interpret graphs, you don't have a college education and you have no scientific experience. Go get some formal education or find another hobby besides giving bro-ology steroid advice.
look at the grap again. it goes from 5 to 10. it severly drops off after day 5.
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look at the grap again. it goes from 5 to 10. it severly drops off after day 5.
So if it is a steady release from day 1 -5 wouldn't two injections every 7 days, one Mon and the other on Thur work according to your graph? The longest you would wait between injects is four days.
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You are using "Logic", which is something he won't understand for a few more years.
4th, you have been very helpful to me and you have also been very helpful and patient with Candi. this is becoming such a waste of time to even debate this stuff anymore.
Take care.
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Thanx for the nice compliment Overload, right back at ya.
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I have a 5 cc bottle of test e given to a patient by prescriptions, pharmaceutical grade and it says one injection every fifteen days. After I get off test e completely, in the past, It takes at leat 4 weeks for me to start losing any type of size and strength, so injecting once per week is perfectively fine, I wouldn't even see a problem with injecting every ten days
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look at the grap again. it goes from 5 to 10. it severly drops off after day 5.
Look at the 4ml gluteal line. Blood concentration at day 4 is ~12nM, at day 10, it's ~10nM. These medications were designed for infrequent administration.
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thats right! only inject once a week... no need for this every other day bullshit with compounds having 2 week half lives..
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Positive comments and helpful advice is far superior than name calling and bullshit arguing. Everybody has different opionions and because 2 may think differently doesnt call for whose right or wrong...solely based on individual expierence.
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Positive comments and helpful advice is far superior than name calling and bullshit arguing. Everybody has different opionions and because 2 may think differently doesnt call for whose right or wrong...solely based on individual expierence.
BULLSHIT!
hahaha. just playin.
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BULLSHIT!
hahaha. just playin.
Hey mr. worm my friend just finnished his bottle of winny from apotek and he said it was awesome, worked good for him, When I saw him he was 30 pounds leaner and looking good, dončt know for sure how much the winny contributed, but he is picking up a few more, he loved it.
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Positive comments and helpful advice is far superior than name calling and bullshit arguing. Everybody has different opionions and because 2 may think differently doesnt call for whose right or wrong...solely based on individual expierence.
Fair point. What "frosts my nads" is when an 18 year old kid arrogantly dispenses incorrect advice on this board. He claims that his arguments are backed by science and studies while at the same time denegrating academia and formal education as being virtually worthless.
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look at the grap again. it goes from 5 to 10. it severly drops off after day 5.
It's a long ester....
Do you see gains rite away? Probably not, unless you of course front loaded the Enanthate. Nevertheless Candi, I'm injecting every 1st and 4th day. I appreciate your input, but I'm not pinning EOD for 12 weeks for a first cycle ;)