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Khadr and the politics of fear
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by Rick Salutin
From Friday's Globe and Mail
July 18, 2008 at 8:09 AM EDT
The Obama cover on this week's New Yorker has a title: The Politics of Fear. It's on the contents page, not on the cover itself. Too bad. It might have aided clarity had it been there, on a little gold plaque like the ones in museums. It's a good term; it applies to far more than the Obama campaign. Fear is a recurring political theme in our time, like the musical catchphrase in Indiana Jones films: DUNduhDUNDUN.
Take those Omar Khadr tapes. Their general import seems clear. We know U.S. forces softened him up with three weeks of sleep deprivation, which counts as torture. (Think how you get after a bad night.) It's called clean torture since it leaves no marks, a preference among democratic governments. He had the impression his Canadian "interviewer" would rescue him and help him get home. The CSIS agent brought Big Macs on the first day and Omar was friendly as a puppy. On Day 2, he realized Canada wasn't there to help, but to get a confession, and he cracked. The agent made jokes, ridiculed his complaints and said harshly that there was nothing he could do to get him moved - in my view, the cruellest moment; not torture perhaps but brutal and, from its tone, sadistic.
Yet many people respond unsympathetically. Not just the ex-U.S. soldier who scorned "young, snivelling, whining, crying Omar." Canadians too, who say, typically: "Omar Khadr made his bed; let him lie in it." It's as if something overrides the normal, sympathetic response; it's the politics of fear since 9/11. That's when the nature of discourse changed; hate and fear became a new norm. I found it reflected in my own mail; till then it was often marked by thoughtful disagreement, which I prize; since then it's had a component of sheer abuse and vituperation.
I think you can call the fear irrational since, as Ottawa journalist Dan Gardner shows in his utterly reassuring book on fear, Risk, our chances of being a victim of terror before or since then are less than of dying in traffic or drowning. The threat of terror, such as it really is, should be effectively dealt with but not magnified and especially not manipulated for other political goals.
By that I mean the way Western leaders have played on excessive fears to pursue quite separate ends, such as eliminating Saddam Hussein or taking control of Mideast oil. The backlash to their policies has increased the dangers of terror, which augments the sense of fear and allows them to justify further policies. The politics of fear could be the caption for the new millennium.
It's worth a glance back at earlier phases in the politics of fear. The hysterical anti-communism of the 1950s was known as The Great Fear, when reds were under the beds. In the 1960s, the fear turned toward youth, and in Canada, toward Quebec separatists. The seventies saw efforts to terrify people about terrorism. The 1980s, under Ronald Reagan, meant a reprise of The Great Fear with the result, common to sequels, of farce. That ended with the sudden, unpredicted implosion of the hitherto horrifying Soviet empire - a force far more formidable in its time than "Islamic terror."
Or revert to another presidential moment: the 1933 inauguration: "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself," said Franklin Roosevelt from his wheelchair. How refreshing. What a different take on fear. He faced grave threats from fascist armies, the Soviet ideological challenge and a global depression -- all of which dwarf our problems (except perhaps our unique environmental threat). He added that he meant "nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror." The genuine threats can be handled.
People in a real fight seem calm, they haven't much time for fear. The trouble with those false and exaggerated fears is they drag your attention away from the real ones, including, as FDR said, fear itself.
Rick Salutin returned home to Canada, following ten years of university study in the United States, in October, 1970. He has been a writer ever since. His many plays include 1837, on the movement for independence from the British Empire; and Les Canadiens, about the famed hockey team and its relation to the spirit of Quebec nationalism, which received the Chalmers award for best Canadian play in 1977. His TV work includes Maria, about union organizing in the textile industry. He has written biography and history, as well as three novels, one of which, A Man of Little Faith, won the Books in Canada best first novel prize. He received the Toronto Arts Award in writing and publishing in 1991 and the National Newspaper Award for best columnist, for his Globe and Mail column on media, in 1993. He held the Maclean Hunter chair in ethics in communication at Ryerson University from 1993 to 1995 and has taught in the Canadian Studies program of University College, the University of Toronto, since 1978 . He has written columns for Canadian Business, Toronto Life, TV Times, the Globe and Mail Broadcast Week and This Magazine, of which he is a founding editor. He was Globe and Mail media columnist from 1991 to 1999 and is now an op-ed columnist. His most recent book is The Womanizer, a novel.
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Interesting. You're looking for us to show sympathy to this kid when you showed zero sympathy and actually condoned, endorsed and tried to blame a 4 year old girl for having her head smashed in? VERY hypocritical, but not all that surprising. ::)
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Interesting. You're looking for us to show sympathy to this kid when you showed zero sympathy and actually condoned, endorsed and tried to blame a 4 year old girl for having her head smashed in? ::)
he didn't, he posted an article.
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he didn't, he posted an article.
The article posted by Jag is attacking Americans and Canadians for not showing any sympathy to this kid. In other threads on this very page Jaguar has attacked and actually blamed a four year old Israeli girl for having her head smashed in against a rock by a Hezbollah terrorist. Very hypocritical.
I have no sympathy for terrorists and jihadists and I think this guy is a piece of shit for telling me that I should. Should I feel sympathy for someone that would love nothing more than to cut my head off?
Judy should stfu and stick to peddling her shiteous gas caps before she tries to criticize others for the very things she does.
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The article posted by Jag is attacking Americans and Canadians for not showing any sympathy to this kid. In other threads on this very page Jaguar has attacked and actually blamed a four year old Israeli girl for having her head smashed in against a rock by a Hezbollah terrorist. Very hypocritical.
I have no sympathy for terrorists and jihadists and I think this guy is a piece of shit for telling me that I should. Should I feel sympathy for someone that would love nothing more than to cut my head off?
Judy should stfu and stick to peddling her shiteous gas caps before she tries to criticize others for the very things she does.
have you talked to him? The kid I mean?
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have you talked to him? The kid I mean?
Have you? The facts are pointing in favor of him being a terrorist. Father's a terrorist, kid was Canadian but captured/injured in battle in Afghanistan. Videos and pictures of him handling explosives and rifles. Go look in the other thread at the collection of pictures of Omar.
Here's a picture of this kid being treated after he was injured in battle. The same battle where he killed a US special forces soldier.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Omar_Khadr_getting_battlefield_first_aid.jpg)
Here's another picture of him handling explosives.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/56/Alleged_Khadr_3.png)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ee/Alleged_Khadr_Waving.png)
Oh gee, Americans helping to save the life of a terrorist. ::)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Uncropped_Medical_Treatment_of_Omar_Khadr.JPG)
His father's also been arrested for terrorist attacks before.
Care to explain those pics? Handling explosives like that? I don't know too many innocent civilians handling that kind of material.
I can't say I'm surprised you AND Jag both ignored every single pic in that thread. You can't spin or deny pictures.
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Have you? The facts are pointing in favor of him being a terrorist. Father's a terrorist, kid was Canadian but captured/injured in battle in Afghanistan. Videos and pictures of him handling explosives and rifles. Go look in the other thread at the collection of pictures of Omar.
Care to explain those pics? Handling explosives like that? I don't know too many innocent civilians handling that kind of material.
I can't say I'm surprised you AND Jag both ignored every single pic in that thread. You can't spin or deny pictures.
i see an resemblance but a lot of these guys look the same to us.
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i see an resemblance but a lot of these guys look the same to us.
I would've put a .45 to my head and bet my life that you would claim false pics. STFU. What a sorry sack of shit. That's the best you can do? Not surprising you can't refute them but instead claim they're falsified. Love it! Game, set, match.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Omar_Khadr_demonstrating_wounds.png)
That's a picture of him showing Canadian interrogators his chest wound. ;)
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I would've put a .45 to my head and bet my life that you would claim false pics. STFU. What a sorry sack of shit. That's the best you can do? Not surprising you can't refute them but instead claim they're falsified. Love it! Game, set, match.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Omar_Khadr_demonstrating_wounds.png)
That's a picture of him showing Canadian interrogators his chest wound. ;)
and again you meltdown, look if you cannot discuss difference without calling people names you are obviously
not smart enough or too young to be here.
And that pic...hahahahah OMG what an argument, suuuuuure I can tell it's the same guy ::) and he says these are wounds he got while being interrogated.
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and again you meltdown, look if you cannot discuss difference without calling people names you are obviously
not smart enough or too young to be here.
And that pic...hahahahah OMG what an argument, suuuuuure I can tell it's the same guy ::) and he says these are wounds he got while being interrogated.
Not a meltdown. I could have GUARANTEED that you would not be able to refute those pics and the first thing you would say was that they were fake. It's a terrible response and only shows that you can't even look at anything objectively. Can you really hate the US that much?
If they were fake, I'm sure his family, Canada and a multitude of other people would have said they were. As it stands, no one has said anything even close to that.
Or maybe the US government took a Canadian kid, put him on the Afghanistan battlefield, shot him, made up a bunch of pictures of him working with explosives and AK's, and then 5 years later, released them. That would validate your argument. ;D
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People don't blame those girls who grow up in polygamous cults who go along with marrying old pedophiles and having dozens of inbred children. Nobody blames them for not running away. Everyone blames the old pedophile fanatical cult leaders. It's the same case with this kid more than likely. Grew up in an extremist environment, mostly in Afghanistan under the wing of a wack fanatical father. Diff is, the kid was taught to kill, not breed inbred babies.
Jag, I don't really get the point of that article. :-\ What does fear have to do with anything.
Canadians don't want him back because basically he'd have to be set free due to lack of evidence. Canada has soldiers dying in Afghanistan so morally, you can't have a former enemy combatant walking around the streets, especially when his mother is on record as saying "he killed a medic, so what."
It isn't the fault of US or Canadian governments. The kid's father put him in harm's way, it's terrible and sad, but there's no one else to blame.
Anyway, his life is finished. Best thing he can hope for is that someone gives him a razor blade and looks the other way so he can off himself. If there's such a thing as reincarnation, maybe he'll get lucky with the next family.
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Not a meltdown. I could have GUARANTEED that you would not be able to refute those pics and the first thing you would say was that they were fake. It's a terrible response and only shows that you can't even look at anything objectively. Can you really hate the US that much?
If they were fake, I'm sure his family, Canada and a multitude of other people would have said they were. As it stands, no one has said anything even close to that.
Or maybe the US government took a Canadian kid, put him on the Afghanistan battlefield, shot him, made up a bunch of pictures of him working with explosives and AK's, and then 5 years later, released them. That would validate your argument. ;D
oh the pics are not fake and I never said that, I just don't believe its the same guy
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You guys have to remember that Jag is from Southern Ontario, without a doubt one of the most repressive places to live if you are not a liberal. They despise anyone who does not share their way of thinking(as can be witnessed by the way she talks to people she disagrees with.) Censorship of oppossing views is a guarantee(again as can be witnessed by how Jag always tries to get the mods to delete posts of people on Getbig who's opinion she disagrees with). We just learn to ignore her Report to Mod emails she always sends.
Add the fact that Jag is somewhat emotionally unstable as well. Always entertaining(for us that is)
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People don't blame those girls who grow up in polygamous cults who go along with marrying old pedophiles and having dozens of inbred children. Nobody blames them for not running away. Everyone blames the old pedophile fanatical cult leaders. It's the same case with this kid more than likely. Grew up in an extremist environment, mostly in Afghanistan under the wing of a wack fanatical father. Diff is, the kid was taught to kill, not breed inbred babies.
Jag, I don't really get the point of that article. :-\ What does fear have to do with anything.
The fact that so many are trying to instill it in the population.
Canadians don't want him back because basically he'd have to be set free due to lack of evidence. Canada has soldiers dying in Afghanistan so morally, you can't have a former enemy combatant walking around the streets, especially when his mother is on record as saying "he killed a medic, so what."
It isn't the fault of US or Canadian governments. The kid's father put him in harm's way, it's terrible and sad, but there's no one else to blame.
Anyway, his life is finished. Best thing he can hope for is that someone gives him a razor blade and looks the other way so he can off himself. If there's such a thing as reincarnation, maybe he'll get lucky with the next family.
BINGO!!!
I've always been of the opinion that the only reason he's still there is because of who his family is.
When everyone else was repatriating their citizens, Martin left him there. Now, martin is saying bring him back?
Like he actually gives a poop. ::) He's simply playing politics, ...and now Harper is getting the fallout for not doing enough. His position is that there is a process underway, and we should allow it to play itself out. He is about to have his trial and any interference in that process at this point could be premature. As much as it pains me to agree with Harper, I do {spit}
Harper's press conference (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Page/document/video/vs?id=RTGAM.20080710.wharper_khadr0710&ids=RTGAM.20080715.wvkhadr0715,RTGAM.20080710.wharper_khadr0710) wherein he touches on the case of Omar khadr.
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The only people who want him back in Canada are Muslim sympathizers like you Jag. He murdered a US soldier and you want to blame the whole thing on:
A) His father.
B) Stephen Harper.
You truly are, and I really mean this Jag, unstable. A lot of people here always suspected you were a little......off in the head.....but WOW. Just WOW.
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The only people who want him back in Canada are Muslim sympathizers like you Jag. He murdered a US soldier and you want to blame the whole thing on:
A) His father.
B) Stephen Harper.
You truly are, and I really mean this Jag, unstable. A lot of people here always suspected you were a little......off in the head.....but WOW. Just WOW.
HOLY COW!!!!
Do you actually READ the posts you respond to, ...or do you just see the posters name, grunt, & bang out a post?
I just finish saying I agree with Stephen Harper's call to not interfere, ...and you interpret that as blaming Harper?
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U usually side with the anti-American murderous shitbag crowd so I guess he just assumed
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Wow, she is REALLY off her meds today.
Its ok Jag. Its ok. You feel like your world has crumbling down. Its ok. If you need to go outside and have a smoke or maybe call your sponsor, I understand.
I just fret over your stability so.
BTW, the headline on the link you posted says "PM distanced himself from reports Canadian officials knew Omar Khadr was harshly treated in Guantanamo Bay" so its safe to assume you were blaming Harper for the Canadian being detained.
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Wow, she is REALLY off her meds today.
Its ok Jag. Its ok. You feel like your world has crumbling down. Its ok. If you need to go outside and have a smoke or maybe call your sponsor, I understand.
I just fret over your stability so.
BTW, the headline on the link you posted says "PM distanced himself from reports Canadian officials knew Omar Khadr was harshly treated in Guantanamo Bay" so its safe to assume you were blaming Harper for the Canadian being detained.
Should I take this as an answer to my question . . . . and that you indeed do NOT read what is there, you just skim the headline, or poster name, and then grunt, banging out some reflex response like a pavlovian dog?
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I get all worried when you're like this Jag. Easy big girl, easy you dont want to check into William Osler. I am not sure if OHIP covers your sort of "ailments".
The link you posted suggested Harper was distancing himself from any knowledge of the Canadian being abused in GB. It suggests that he is hiding something. You say you agree with Harper and said that he says to just let things take their course, then you post a link saying he disavowed any knowledge of it at all.
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I get all worried when you're like this Jag. Easy big girl, easy you dont want to check into William Osler. I am not sure if OHIP covers your sort of "ailments".
The link you posted suggested Harper was distancing himself from any knowledge of the Canadian being abused in GB. It suggests that he is hiding something. You say you agree with Harper and said that he says to just let things take their course, then you post a link saying he disavowed any knowledge of it at all.
Again, you base your conclusions on headlines, bylines, & subject titles rather than on the body of actual evidence.
Harper stated, the previous government had access to all the information and based on that felt it the proper course of action to leave him there. He also stated that his government also made the decisions to leave Khadr based on the body of evidence, and that they are monitoring the situation. That is what you would have discovered had you taken the time to peer deeper than a headline.
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I'm calling your sponsor right now Jag. Is he in the 905 area? I hate those long distance charges before 7PM.
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People don't blame those girls who grow up in polygamous cults who go along with marrying old pedophiles and having dozens of inbred children. Nobody blames them for not running away. Everyone blames the old pedophile fanatical cult leaders. It's the same case with this kid more than likely. Grew up in an extremist environment, mostly in Afghanistan under the wing of a wack fanatical father. Diff is, the kid was taught to kill, not breed inbred babies.
Jag, I don't really get the point of that article. :-\ What does fear have to do with anything.
Canadians don't want him back because basically he'd have to be set free due to lack of evidence. Canada has soldiers dying in Afghanistan so morally, you can't have a former enemy combatant walking around the streets, especially when his mother is on record as saying "he killed a medic, so what."
It isn't the fault of US or Canadian governments. The kid's father put him in harm's way, it's terrible and sad, but there's no one else to blame.
Anyway, his life is finished. Best thing he can hope for is that someone gives him a razor blade and looks the other way so he can off himself. If there's such a thing as reincarnation, maybe he'll get lucky with the next family.
Black kids raised in the inner city still get the chair or go to jail for life when they carry out a murder. Sure they had a tough upbringing and that was the only life they knew, but they still reap the consequences of their actions. This kid is no different. It's unfortunate that he was put in this situation, but he chose to throw that grenade and now he's paying the price. This kid chose to join the the extremists. He was living with his mother before he begged his father to let him move in with extremists. Maybe his way of thinking MAY have been skewed, but he still threw that grenade with murderous intent and was on a battlefield with the intentions of killing Americans. He was captured and now he has to reap the consequences. I think it's pretty damn nice the Americans saved him regardless. If the roles were reversed, said American would be executed, probably by beheading.
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I think it's pretty damn nice the Americans saved him regardless.
And probably at great expense too.
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And probably at great expense too.
It's funny how the apologists never mention the fact that the American army gives medical aid and care to every opponent in battle. From the way they make it sound, I figured most American soldiers cut their hearts out above an Incan temple after capturing them. ::)
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Normally we eat them. I like mine with some sweet baby ray barbecue sauce. ;D
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Black kids raised in the inner city still get the chair or go to jail for life when they carry out a murder. Sure they had a tough upbringing and that was the only life they knew, but they still reap the consequences of their actions. This kid is no different.
As opposed to rich white ones like Skakil who roamed free for years?
It's unfortunate that he was put in this situation, but he chose to throw that grenade and now he's paying the price.
Did he? According to the original report made by the Americans, the one who threw the grenade was killed, and there was another individual pulled alive out of the rubble.
This kid chose to join the the extremists. He was living with his mother before he begged his father to let him move in with extremists. Maybe his way of thinking MAY have been skewed, but he still threw that grenade with murderous intent and was on a battlefield with the intentions of killing Americans.
please post this information you have about him begging his father to let him live with the extremists.
The facts remain that it has yet to be determined that he did throw the grenade.
There are conflicting reports that contradict each other.
He was captured and now he has to reap the consequences. I think it's pretty damn nice the Americans saved him regardless.
I think so as well.
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In early 2002, he was living alone with his mother and younger sister while his father visited infrequently, and took up beading his mother's clothes as a hobby.[13] At one point, he was forced to wear a burqa and disguise himself as a daughter to avoid scrutiny, an act that upset him. When his father returned, he asked to be allowed to stay with men in the village, despite his mother's protests. His father agreed he could stay with a group of men associated with Abu Laith al-Libi, who needed a Pashto translator anyway, if he promised to check in regularly with his mother.[8][13][20][21] A later collection of biographies written by al Qaeda praises the elder Khadr for "tossing his little child in the furnace of the battle", and likens his son to a lion cub.[1]
What does being white have ANYTHING to do with black kids going to jail? You're so blatantly racist it's hilarious. Got to love them mooks. ::)
Go ahead and report my post by the way, twat.
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Normally we eat them. I like mine with some sweet baby ray barbecue sauce. ;D
Haha I just posted Baby Ray's BBQ sauce in the General Topics board, that stuff is good.
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In early 2002, he was living alone with his mother and younger sister while his father visited infrequently, and took up beading his mother's clothes as a hobby.[13] At one point, he was forced to wear a burqa and disguise himself as a daughter to avoid scrutiny, an act that upset him. When his father returned, he asked to be allowed to stay with men in the village, despite his mother's protests. His father agreed he could stay with a group of men associated with Abu Laith al-Libi, who needed a Pashto translator anyway, if he promised to check in regularly with his mother.[8][13][20][21] A later collection of biographies written by al Qaeda praises the elder Khadr for "tossing his little child in the furnace of the battle", and likens his son to a lion cub.[1]
pssst: If you're going to post a footnote, a bibliograpghy is suppose to go with it.
From where did you cut & paste that? From Wikipedia?
What does being white have ANYTHING to do with black kids going to jail? You're so blatantly racist it's hilarious. Got to love them mooks. ::)
I make neither mention of, nor assumption about your ethnicity
Go ahead and report my post by the way, twat.
ok.
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Black vs. white had nothing to do with my comment about gang banging blacks ending up in jail for murder. You running right to making it white vs black was typical of you, probably the most racist person on here. Make it clear you hate whites more. What's the matter, they win those beauty pageants more often than you?
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Black vs. white had nothing to do with my comment about gang banging blacks ending up in jail for murder. You running right to making it white vs black was typical of you, probably the most racist person on here. Make it clear you hate whites more. What's the matter, they win those beauty pageants more often than you?
Gang banging blacks?? Oh I see. So that was what your comment was about, not blacks raised in the inner city.
Clearly in your mind... these are one and the same. Every black person raised in the inner city is a gang banger. ::)
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Hahaha, calm down sugar tits. It's too easy. I was talking about young black kids who end up in jail for murder. Why do they commit those murders? Because they're usually gang banging punks. Unless you're trying to tell me that all inner city black kids are inherently more prone to committing crime? ???
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Hahaha, calm down sugar tits.
Ya, my buppies are kinda sweet n' perky! :D
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Too bad your twats a sludge pot.
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Too bad your twats a sludge pot.
Like you would even know. ::) But I do have to admit the comment did make me laugh out loud tho.
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Like you would even know. ::) But I do have to admit the comment did make me laugh out loud tho.
I saw it on YouTube. That camel toe/pantie shot was a disaster. Your twat looked like 4 pounds of roast beef trying to slip out of a hankerchief.