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Title: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: 240 is Back on July 22, 2008, 05:38:24 PM
Phil is a pro and is always known for his excellent conditioning.  However Wolf and Cutler have both looked way sharper in recent pics.  Can Heath get in shape in time?


Title: Re: Is Phil heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: Stavios on July 22, 2008, 05:42:19 PM
no he is not

10 weeks is a fuck load of time to get in shape
Title: Re: Is Phil heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: 240 is Back on July 22, 2008, 05:43:01 PM
no he is not

10 weeks is a fuck load of time to get in shape

i agree with ya, for the most part.

I was surprised about the soft back and glutes though.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: OTHstrong on July 22, 2008, 05:47:59 PM
Most people take long to make dieting less painful or because they lack discipline and know they are going to cheat a few times before they get into the zone, but most pros can probably pull it off in 6-8 weeks, Heath has tremendouse will power he could do it and still be ready 2 weeks out.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on July 22, 2008, 05:49:02 PM
looks great
hell be fine
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: swilkins1984 on July 22, 2008, 06:01:46 PM
Right on target. No lower than 3rd and I am anticipating a 2nd place finish.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: nicky.smth on July 22, 2008, 06:06:39 PM
he just looks bloated, not to fat for 10 weeks out...He should be on target come contest time..
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: jason armstrong on July 22, 2008, 06:13:58 PM
he's definitely got some fat to lose....bloated too we should call him chubby fat ass...but then again he might have a chance to win the O in that shape... ;D
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: nder98 on July 22, 2008, 06:15:51 PM
Phil is a pro and is always known for his excellent conditioning.  However Wolf and Cutler have both looked way sharper in recent pics.  Can Heath get in shape in time?




Plenty O time..  He may have the metabolism of a humming bird and shred in a month or 2..
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: bigguns23 on July 22, 2008, 07:05:39 PM
Remember how he looked two weeks out of the Ironman?? It's like he grows into the show.



Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on July 22, 2008, 07:12:25 PM
hes not as far along as he was into his ironman prep this year. But he'll DEFINETELY be ready.

Phil in his short career has brought one thing everytime he's competed. And thats CONDITIONING! So im pretty sure his first Mr.O will be no different.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: wes on July 22, 2008, 07:29:18 PM
It doesn`t matter what Cutler and Wolfe look like right now..............it`s the day of the show that counts and 10 weeks is a long time to get a lot done.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: 240 is Back on July 22, 2008, 07:34:32 PM
It doesn`t matter what Cutler and Wolfe look like right now..............it`s the day of the show that counts and 10 weeks is a long time to get a lot done.

Yep.  but *IF* Phil comes in with poor conditioning, this image of him ten wks out would mean something.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: wes on July 22, 2008, 07:45:23 PM
C`mon bro,do you actually think he`ll be out of shape?
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: 240 is Back on July 22, 2008, 07:49:09 PM
C`mon bro,do you actually think he`ll be out of shape?

Probably not.  But if he is, we can 'search' up this thread and discuss the "what-if's".

He's always been in shape.  He grew a LOT this past year before the arnold, then took a pretty major break this year and shrunk down.  he's doing some new things, I'm sure.  If he comes in at the show our of shape, we'll come back to these.  If I had to bet the rent check, I think he'll be diced.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: GigantorX on July 22, 2008, 07:55:39 PM
Probably not.  But if he is, we can 'search' up this thread and discuss the "what-if's".

He's always been in shape.  He grew a LOT this past year before the arnold, then took a pretty major break this year and shrunk down.  he's doing some new things, I'm sure.  If he comes in at the show our of shape, we'll come back to these.  If I had to bet the rent check, I think he'll be diced.

He will be sliced, no doubt about it 240 and wes. The problem is that he has huge arms, narrow chest and an overall narrow look to him. His gigantic arms really overpower his physique. He will look narrow and maybe even a bit on the small side next to Wolf, Cutler and Kamali.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: jtsunami on July 22, 2008, 07:58:17 PM
his face is very feminine, must be his eye color or something
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: wes on July 22, 2008, 08:15:33 PM
Hey 240,IF is the biggest two letter word in the dictionary!!  :)

We`ll just have to wait and see bro! :)
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: The Master on July 22, 2008, 08:18:09 PM
his face is very feminine, must be his eye color or something


Was that a value judgement or a neutral observation? :-*
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: arce377 on July 22, 2008, 08:22:30 PM
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Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 22, 2008, 10:13:58 PM
He will be sliced, no doubt about it 240 and wes. The problem is that he has huge arms, narrow chest and an overall narrow look to him. His gigantic arms really overpower his physique. He will look narrow and maybe even a bit on the small side next to Wolf, Cutler and Kamali.

haha yes, King is a force in the gym and on the stage

(http://www.kingkamali.com/gallery/2007/KKJT_Classic/photos/480959.jpg)
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: jtsunami on July 22, 2008, 11:37:02 PM

Was that a value judgement or a neutral observation? :-*

I'm not sure what you mean?
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: kyomu on July 23, 2008, 02:32:19 AM
Oh dont worry, his godamn super genetic makes him in shape even 4 daysout in stead of 10 weeksout.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: Trev on July 23, 2008, 05:07:37 AM
Drug bloat. He'll dial in at get 4th
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: jr on July 23, 2008, 05:17:37 AM
All proo.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: RZA on July 23, 2008, 05:18:49 AM
He's got plenty of time, I don't bdoubt that he can achieve great conditioning. The concern would be to know if he can do it without losing too much fullness. He doesn't look that big for an off-season Olympia pretender.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: LittleJ on July 23, 2008, 06:49:48 AM
plenty of time
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: Zach Trowbridge on July 23, 2008, 07:51:37 AM
He will be sliced, no doubt about it 240 and wes. The problem is that he has huge arms, narrow chest and an overall narrow look to him. His gigantic arms really overpower his physique. He will look narrow and maybe even a bit on the small side next to Wolf, Cutler and Kamali.

Kamali?  Seriously?  In the same sentence as Phil, Cutler, and Wolf?  Wow.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: Stavios on July 23, 2008, 10:17:28 AM
he isn't even fat in the first place, there is a lot of water bloat  but not much fat

Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: gib on July 23, 2008, 10:20:43 AM
Its a good question. Jay did look way leaner in the recent pics posted of him

Having said that, Phil, I am sure, knows what he is doing. Personally I think Jay's approach is the way to go, but I am sure Phil will also come in looking pretty good.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: 240 is Back on July 23, 2008, 11:15:47 AM
Its a good question. Jay did look way leaner in the recent pics posted of him

Having said that, Phil, I am sure, knows what he is doing. Personally I think Jay's approach is the way to go, but I am sure Phil will also come in looking pretty good.

jay and wolf both looked leaner.

Does anyone have the recent dexter guest pose pic?  I wonder if he was leaner too.

Most successful guys know the key is to peak 2 weeks early and coast in.  Phil looked diced, 5 weeks out from the ironman.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: nukkaready on July 23, 2008, 02:31:30 PM
he looks bloated and small. compare him to the current size of cutler or wolf... they are twice as big as lil heath and tighter.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: JohnnyVegas on July 23, 2008, 02:56:02 PM
Phil is a pro and is always known for his excellent conditioning.  However Wolf and Cutler have both looked way sharper in recent pics.  Can Heath get in shape in time?




"Lunch" Trey Brewer was about twice as fat and lost his weight in less time.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: honest on July 23, 2008, 03:26:42 PM
he will be fine, once he changes esters, drops a few things and cuts the gh  ;) he needs to time his run, certainly cant afford to overdiet in this line up, if hes flat, he looks narrow, top 5 if he nails it, top 3 if hes improved since the ironman, He is potentially a top 3 guy with his genetics even with being narrow, just depends how much hes improved.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: HeyNow on July 23, 2008, 03:40:15 PM
Phil is going to kick ass at the Olympia, he always dials in.  No worries.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: candidizzle on July 23, 2008, 03:49:06 PM
he will be fine, once he changes esters, drops a few things and cuts the gh  ;) he needs to time his run, certainly cant afford to overdiet in this line up, if hes flat, he looks narrow, top 5 if he nails it, top 3 if hes improved since the ironman, He is potentially a top 3 guy with his genetics even with being narrow, just depends how much hes improved.
explain why he would do that
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: Stavios on July 23, 2008, 04:43:54 PM
explain why he would do that

gh cause water bloat
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: candidizzle on July 23, 2008, 04:57:45 PM
gh cause water bloat
so competitors always drop it out? i never heard of that before
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: technokc on July 23, 2008, 05:00:15 PM
I have a feeling Jay is going to make the same mistake he did when he tried to play the conditioning game at the Arnold a few years back when he should have lost to Cormier.  His conditioning was shitty at the O and he is going to overcompensate and look flat.

Dexter your new Mr. Olympia!!!
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: Stavios on July 23, 2008, 05:00:43 PM
so competitors always drop it out? i never heard of that before

no most run it until the show but I know quite a few competitors who drop it 2 weeks out
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: candidizzle on July 23, 2008, 05:02:13 PM
no most run it until the show but I know quite a few competitors who drop it 2 weeks out
i would think a strong diuretic might take care of it, no ?
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: Zaphod on July 23, 2008, 05:23:37 PM
no most run it until the show but I know quite a few competitors who drop it 2 weeks out


eeeenteresting
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: regmac on July 23, 2008, 05:27:25 PM
Does it matter how a guy looks  11 wks before?   Whats the title of this site??? GETBIG!!!!!!   Phil is!!!
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: gymguy on July 23, 2008, 06:10:00 PM
Phil is right on target.  Looking damn good!
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: Emmortal on July 23, 2008, 06:14:07 PM
Phil "soft serve" Heath lookin good.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: JohnnyVegas on July 23, 2008, 06:29:28 PM
so competitors always drop it out? i never heard of that before
That's because you are not a "Pro" Dizzle.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: OTHstrong on July 23, 2008, 07:50:22 PM
A lot drop it, some cut down, and some stay with it
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: honest on July 23, 2008, 09:07:52 PM
Most drop it 4 weeks out to help the skin thin right out, some as late as two,  Phil looks to have  some serious water bloat, i would bet hes using Jins, he will be fine as long as he knows what hes doing believe me a lot of top guys have missed their peak by not understanding how their body reacts with hgh. Dorian Yates made an art form of dropping it at the right time, his skin up close contest day was something else, made everyone else look smooth.
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: The Wizard on July 23, 2008, 11:04:54 PM
Will be full but narrow. Top 3 but no cigar
Title: Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on July 23, 2008, 11:16:44 PM
Drug bloat. He'll dial in at get 4th
no need to dial it in he is a weider boy he'll get 4th no matter what and wolf gets 3rd this sets the stage for the battle between wolf and heath for later years while dexter retires.........