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For those who havnt seen the video, its here, do you believe it?Is it a world record for a natural lifter?
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Of course he did.
"He who screams the loudest"
8)
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I bet he did, nothing major though.
Great music, great video.
Happy not to hear gangsta rap for a change
but some Rock and Roll.
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Could see him gaining 54 lbs in a year natural, but not 54 lean lbs. He looks good tho, even if he is full of shit.
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does it really matter? he swore up and down that he didnt use....then said he used once...who cares! guy looks good. hes obviously consistant in his training, as well as consistant about bitching in regards to steroid use....likes HUGE tits and probably has bagged a few fat girls from time to time...
an anomaly he is not......
funny
good size
predictable
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i'd say the GYNO at 0:17 answers that question
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I dont see any gyno
who cares if he's natural or not------he's a thick fucker thats leaner than 90% of the people who lift in the gym
plus he's a funny bastard with a demented sense of humor (like mine) ;D
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I dont see any gyno
who cares if he's natural or not------he's a thick fucker thats leaner than 90% of the people who lift in the gym
plus he's a funny bastard with a demented sense of humor (like mine) ;D
i could also give two shits about him juicing or not, but it was the question
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LoL @ the Ego Shrugs.
If he used drugs, then his body is pathetic, if he didnt use drugs then hes in good shape.
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i'd say the GYNO at 0:17 answers that question
mayne he got gyno as a teenager without drugs like millions of guys do?..
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For those who havnt seen the video, its here, do you believe it?Is it a world record for a natural lifter?
Epic receding hairline. DHT is a bitch.
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(http://sicktracks.com/images/Palumbo_2.jpg)
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Didn't he say he has used before, or is that supposed to be before this video ???
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Could see him gaining 54 lbs in a year natural, but not 54 lean lbs. He looks good tho, even if he is full of shit.
even on steroids you can't gain 54 lbs of muscle in a year. Surely it was a mix of muscle water and fat or less than 54 was gained. I didn't even bother to watch the video.
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Croatch timeline, for the last time:
1992- Started lifting
1994 - Tried one cycle for the summer, which I kept barely any of, due to lack of knowledge
1995 - Stopped lifting
1996/7 - Started lifting off/on, not too consistent Got up to 180lbs...maybe
1999 - Stopped lifting
2002 - Began lifting again at 150lbs
2003 - Reached 205lbs
Consitent with diet/meals through now
2008 - 215lbs
So, I kept zero of any drug gains for one summer in 1994. The 50lbs in one year, wasn't all muscle, but primarily. Due to inactivity, change in diet, some muscle memory...these gains are attainable naturally/clean.
The past few years I only changed my body composition/shape slightly. Maybe a few pounds of muscle per year, if that.
even on steroids you can't gain 54 lbs of muscle in a year. Surely it was a mix of muscle water and fat or less than 54 was gained. I didn't even bother to watch the video.
You should watch it, it's better than any Mitz clip ever made, which isn't saying much...haha
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For those who havnt seen the video, its here, do you believe it?Is it a world record for a natural lifter?
CROTCHES ASS IS A PIN CUSHION...NO...A SYRINGE CUSHION.
58 POUNDS IN ONE YEAR AND ALL NATURAL...YEAH RIGHT...LOL
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even on steroids you can't gain 54 lbs of muscle in a year. Surely it was a mix of muscle water and fat or less than 54 was gained. I didn't even bother to watch the video.
Agreed
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thats a great natural right there. i think its hard to push it much further than that as a natural.
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2002 - Began lifting again at 150lbs
2003 - Reached 205lbs
how lean were you at 205lbs then?
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do you do all the video work yourself? Good stuff.
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Why are you making videos of yourself anyway??
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Why are you making videos of yourself anyway??
big ego.
not that there's anything wrong with that. all bb'ers has it including me :)
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Impressive - you look very strong and powerful, not a fan of the tats though but I'm sure you are.
What I find most amusing is that you sat there for hours editing footage of yourself. I think I would die from modesty overdose before completing such an undertaking.
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Most people who scream "ALL NATURAL" all the time are hormonized.
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Why are you making videos of yourself anyway??
because he's one of the greatest naturals of all time.
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Impressive - you look very strong and powerful, not a fan of the tats though but I'm sure you are.
What I kind most amusing is that you sat there for hours editing footage of yourself. I think I would die from modesty overdose before completing such an undertaking.
It has 100,000 views. I'm sure a few people pulled something positive from it. So, it's worth it. Plus, I like editing.
CROTCHES ASS IS A PIN CUSHION...NO...A SYRINGE CUSHION.
58 POUNDS IN ONE YEAR AND ALL NATURAL...YEAH RIGHT...LOL
I've been over this plenty of times and wouldn't claim it was all muscle, probably 35lbs lean mass, 15lbs fat. My gains since, 15lbs total. If drugs were in play, I'd be 240lbs today easily and more lean....no accomplishment really, when drugs are in play.
Most people have the small minded view you do. "If I couldn't do it, for someone else to...is inconceivable" ::)
Keep in mind, I had 5 years of training prior, then took time off. Last, wtf would I claim to do that without drugs...if I had? Utterly pointless.
how lean were you at 205lbs then?
12%bf? probably
Most people who scream "ALL NATURAL" all the time are hormonized.
FAIL. You're pulling your stats from where? Although, I like using the "most people" when trying to prove a point too. Nice one..haha
big ego.
not that there's anything wrong with that. all bb'ers has it including me :)
The video has nothing to do with ego, it's just for vanity sake. ;D
do you do all the video work yourself? Good stuff.
Yeah. Thanks. I like editing things I'm into. Unfortunately, you can't post big titty videos on youtube. :-\
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of course he juiced. silly question.
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does it really matter? he swore up and down that he didnt use....then said he used once...who cares! guy looks good. hes obviously consistant in his training, as well as consistant about bitching in regards to steroid use....likes HUGE tits and probably has bagged a few fat girls from time to time...
an anomaly he is not......
funny
good size
predictable
hahaha
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He admits that he juiced so there is no deception on his part.
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Croatch looks pretty good
ultimately does it matter how he got there
as long as he is cool with it natural or not
makes me laugh how many people on here don't believe you can gain anything
without being on a stack of drugs
maybe they should post on www.shitygenetics.com
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of course he juiced. silly question.
The sad fact, is most people, couldn't comprehend gaining 50lbs without drugs...I did. This is the problem with "bodybuilding" today. Honestly pathetic.
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I really enjoy watching that video. Alost looks professionally done.
Great physique.
Shit tattoos.
Yes he did a cycle though many people who scream all natural do so as they are proud. I like being bigger and stronger than 90% of my gym and being my age and natural...despite the fact some dont believe me.
I have gained maybe 50-55lbs since i started lifting 4 years ago. Though i have never tried a onventional bluk and ut so i dont know what is possible.
Once again i hate wee fags who believe you cant gain more than 5lbs a year without taking drugs...or an 18" arm is the absolute limit of natural human growth. It is the same people who generally have weaker genetics.
I genuinely do feel a bit bad for the guys who trian harder than me, eat better than me and love lifting weigts more than i do yet wont reach my size. This is not being arrogant as i am not the greatest or even that special by an stretch of the imagination. However it just seems unfair. These guys either seem to continue doing it for fun and working to the best of their ability. However many of these guys get bitter, jealous and start shouting steroids.
This is just my experience
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I really enjoy watching that video. Alost looks professionally done.
Great physique.
Shit tattoos.
Yes he did a cycle though many people who scream all natural do so as they are proud. I like being bigger and stronger than 90% of my gym and being my age and natural...despite the fact some dont believe me.
I have gained maybe 50-55lbs since i started lifting 4 years ago. Though i have never tried a onventional bluk and ut so i dont know what is possible.
Once again i hate wee fags who believe you cant gain more than 5lbs a year without taking drugs...or an 18" arm is the absolute limit of natural human growth. It is the same people who generally have weaker genetics.
I genuinely do feel a bit bad for the guys who trian harder than me, eat better than me and love lifting weigts more than i do yet wont reach my size. This is not being arrogant as i am not the greatest or even that special by an stretch of the imagination. However it just seems unfair. These guys either seem to continue doing it for fun and working to the best of their ability. However many of these guys get bitter, jealous and start shouting steroids.
This is just my experience
stop bragging makes you look bad.
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big deal i dont know you.
What i said is from MY experience in MY own gym. A lot of my friends make tremendous gains and they get blamed also. And yes its by the guys who love weights, eat clean, take lots of protein train fast never miss a workout etc.
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big deal i dont know you.
What i said is from MY experience in MY own gym. A lot of my friends make tremendous gains and they get blamed also. And yes its by the guys who love weights, eat clean, take lots of protein train fast never miss a workout etc.
ok good for you then. i dont think croatch eats whatever he wants though i think he has a pretty bb like strict diet mostly.
as for you i guess you're a genetic freak just like meso then,.
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nope. I train fairly consistenly eat a lot of food...not necessarily good food. Slack on workouts from TIME TO TIME. miss workouts from TIME TO TIME.
One guy from my gym in partiular doesnt do this, yet he loves and cares for weight trianing more than me. Personally i would be embarassed to and dont wish to follow a bbuilding lifestyle. Nore important things in my life.
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nope. I train fairly consistenly eat a lot of food...not necessarily good food. Slack on workouts from TIME TO TIME. miss workouts from TIME TO TIME.
One guy from my gym in partiular doesnt do this, yet he loves and cares for weight trianing more than me. Personally i would be embarassed to and dont wish to follow a bbuilding lifestyle. Nore important things in my life.
well the important thing is to be consistant most of the time, which you are.
about that guy at your gym maybe he has shit genetics maybe not, maybe his diet crap.
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Croatch got talents.. awesome
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pretty obvious from all these videos that hes a pretty diverse dude. he can edit, act, juggle, play drums...all pretty well. looks like he pours into his projects.
kids got drive....ill give him that. i think hes got the potential to be a serial killer.....but i bet hed do well at that as well....
;) ;D
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The sad fact, is most people, couldn't comprehend gaining 50lbs without drugs...I did. This is the problem with "bodybuilding" today. Honestly pathetic.
sure you can gain 50 lbs of whatever in bodybuilding but you sir are on steroids on said video clip... oh you liar... you are right up there with Mr. Chris Faildo.
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It has 100,000 views. I'm sure a few people pulled something positive from it. So, it's worth it. Plus, I like editing. I've been over this plenty of times and wouldn't claim it was all muscle, probably 35lbs lean mass, 15lbs fat. My gains since, 15lbs total. If drugs were in play, I'd be 240lbs today easily and more lean....no accomplishment really, when drugs are in play.
Most people have the small minded view you do. "If I couldn't do it, for someone else to...is inconceivable" ::)
Keep in mind, I had 5 years of training prior, then took time off. Last, wtf would I claim to do that without drugs...if I had? Utterly pointless.12%bf? probablyFAIL. You're pulling your stats from where? Although, I like using the "most people" when trying to prove a point too. Nice one..hahaThe video has nothing to do with ego, it's just for vanity sake. ;DYeah. Thanks. I like editing things I'm into. Unfortunately, you can't post big titty videos on youtube. :-\
I can believe that you were clean, but I think you are overestimating the muscle gained and underestimating your BF.
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sure you can gain 50 lbs of whatever in bodybuilding but you sir are on steroids on said video clip... oh you liar... you are right up there with Mr. Chris Faildo.
Let it go man. Regardless of what I've done, your physique will be the same tomorrow. It's amusing to see someone try and prove or disprove a person's claim on the internet. Not once, have I ever questioned someone claiming to be natural. I see zero point in lying on that topic. More pathetic than needing steroids to workout. ;)
I can believe that you were clean, but I think you are overestimating the muscle gained and underestimating your BF.
I couldn't say exactly what bf percentage I was, but a photo speaks for itself. It's irrelevant if it's 10% or 13%, nobody cares.
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Major gyno on 1st ab & thigh pose in video clip... no visible gyno on 2nd ab & thigh pose. deca, test &dbol. all natural... that's amusing.
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you friends are funny :D
this fella is prime example for why fellas such as retabolil bought a huge house in russia ,,,this typoe of fella is the reason fellas such as alin get richer and richer ,,,
to even think in your head,,,just think !! that this fella is not 2 months on 2 months off for many years is insane,,this fella is prime example for a lifter who does not respond well to hormones thus stays at the gym rat level,,
if any one here think this fella is natural or clean for 10 years....you have no place in bodybuilding,,this is primse example of guy that will lie to yuor face and will do anything possible to be adored in a gym and that in usa means clamining clean or natural status
he is as hormoinized as whats his name getny john,,neither of them got a good response to hormones...one has flat muscles and the other one croach ..cant grow over 210lb
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You can't put on 54lbs of "lean" muscle in a year anymore than you can put 40lbs of muscle in a month.
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you friends are funny :D
this fella is prime example for why fellas such as retabolil bought a huge house in russia ,,,this typoe of fella is the reason fellas such as alin get richer and richer ,,,
to even think in your head,,,just think !! that this fella is not 2 months on 2 months off for many years is insane,,this fella is prime example for a lifter who does not respond well to hormones thus stays at the gym rat level,,
if any one here think this fella is natural or clean for 10 years....you have no place in bodybuilding,,this is primse example of guy that will lie to yuor face and will do anything possible to be adored in a gym and that in usa means clamining clean or natural status
he is as hormoinized as whats his name getny john,,neither of them got a good response to hormones...one has flat muscles and the other one croach ..cant grow over 210lb
Nice to hear your input Gh15
You can't put on 54lbs of "lean" muscle in a year anymore than you can put 40lbs of muscle in a month.
Coach, do you think Croatch's 1 year transformation was done naturally?
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you friends are funny :D
this fella is prime example for why fellas such as retabolil bought a huge house in russia ,,,this typoe of fella is the reason fellas such as alin get richer and richer ,,,
to even think in your head,,,just think !! that this fella is not 2 months on 2 months off for many years is insane,,this fella is prime example for a lifter who does not respond well to hormones thus stays at the gym rat level,,
if any one here think this fella is natural or clean for 10 years....you have no place in bodybuilding,,this is primse example of guy that will lie to yuor face and will do anything possible to be adored in a gym and that in usa means clamining clean or natural status
he is as hormoinized as whats his name getny john,,neither of them got a good response to hormones...one has flat muscles and the other one croach ..cant grow over 210lb
boom.
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Who knows if dude is natural, who really cares. I question the pics with the bloated neck,face pics. However, sweet arm band tattoo guy :P
Good physique, keep up the hard work. :) Quit hating on people who use hormones, it shouldn't bother one so much.
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the intro:
DISCLIPINE
DESIRE
GAYNESS
all those kids are douches who carry around a gallon of water. if huge ass markus ruhl only needs a liter of water, then these skinny clowns do not need a WHOLE GALLON!!!! queers.
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mayne he got gyno as a teenager without drugs like millions of guys do?..
He doesn't have it in his earlier photos. His face in the gyno pic (O:17) is all dieseled out.
There is no chance that he did not juice. An obvious juicer. Sorry, not hating, but you can't seriously think
that huge amt of Gyno just happens at 22 YO. for no reason.
The only other explanation is that he smoked alot of Pot, that also causes gyno. HOWEVER, his face is too thick to be natural. No question about it. SORRY !
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Croatch, great video...
Have you posted your diet anywhere so I could take a look at it?
Unlike the idiots on here who want to argue about if you gained 53.5 pounds of muscle and .5 of fat or what the fuck ever, I'd like to LEARN more from you...
Thanks
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even on steroids you can't gain 54 lbs of muscle in a year. Surely it was a mix of muscle water and fat or less than 54 was gained. I didn't even bother to watch the video.
says who ::)
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you friends are funny :D
this fella is prime example for why fellas such as retabolil bought a huge house in russia ,,,this typoe of fella is the reason fellas such as alin get richer and richer ,,,
to even think in your head,,,just think !! that this fella is not 2 months on 2 months off for many years is insane,,this fella is prime example for a lifter who does not respond well to hormones thus stays at the gym rat level,,
if any one here think this fella is natural or clean for 10 years....you have no place in bodybuilding,,this is primse example of guy that will lie to yuor face and will do anything possible to be adored in a gym and that in usa means clamining clean or natural status
he is as hormoinized as whats his name getny john,,neither of them got a good response to hormones...one has flat muscles and the other one croach ..cant grow over 210lb
I wouldn't expect any less from you. Your the typical "beast" on roids, yet usually can do nothing without drugs. Prime example of how pathetic "bodybuilding" has become and your general mindset. GH15 is the type of guy who couldn't eclipse 200lbs naturally, but is over 250lbs on gear. ::)
He doesn't have it in his earlier photos. His face in the gyno pic (O:17) is all dieseled out.
There is no chance that he did not juice. An obvious juicer. Sorry, not hating, but you can't seriously think
that huge amt of Gyno just happens at 22 YO. for no reason.
The only other explanation is that he smoked alot of Pot, that also causes gyno. HOWEVER, his face is too thick to be natural. No question about it. SORRY !
To deny gyno, would be flat out lying. I smoked weed in the past, but didn't really have it @21 or so. Can't say when it developed? The funny thing about gyno is you can develop it naturally as well. It's very common amongst someone who juices, due to overflow of test converting to estrogen. To say someone juices, simply because of gyno...is just being misinformed. Read up on it.
For face fullness...one word...creabloat. If you've never tried it, it's apparent within a month. The only downside to the muscle fullness/strength gains from it.
It's sad how some people doubt what is in their face. If money were on the line, I could drop down to 150lbs again, then go up to 205lbs 7%bf....GUARANTEED....NO DRUGS. It gets tiring hearing people question what my gains are. I'd like to get a pool going and be drug tested for the experiment.
Chances are, it would never take place...but if I could guarantee being paid by people who doubt it, it would be worth it and a challenge. It would probably only take me 9 months to add the weight, then trim up to a lean 205lbs. I would even make a dvd on it and feature the posters on getbig.
More interesting than any Cutler dvd ever...not a big win there..haha
Croatch, great video...
Have you posted your diet anywhere so I could take a look at it?
Unlike the idiots on here who want to argue about if you gained 53.5 pounds of muscle and .5 of fat or what the fuck ever, I'd like to LEARN more from you...
Thanks
Pretty basic. The first 6 months of that year, I ate pretty well, but nothing too crazy. Then, I began to eat 3lbs of chicken, in addition to eggs in the morning/oatmeal, plus a shake or two. There were a few more things in there, but that was it...essentially. Try eating a few lbs per day, you'll see immediate strength size gains. The funny thing about diet, is it's so simple, but few really sac up and do it for any decent length of time.
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You all are pathetic if you think Croach's physique cannot be attained naturally.
Must suck for all of you who can't gain anything without drugs :-\
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You all are pathetic if you think Croach's physique cannot be attained naturally.
Must suck for all of you who can't gain anything without drugs :-\
Pretty much the entire bb scene today. Especially at Gold's. Everyone is a fucking steroid Olympian wannabe, who just happens to look like bloated dogshit. I cringe everytime I enter the gym, but it's fun pwning those clowns.
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you should juice
already have the gyno, and receding hair line.... why not now???
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Nice to hear your input Gh15
Coach, do you think Croatch's 1 year transformation was done naturally?
No......Couldn't be done even with gear.
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No......Couldn't be done even with gear.
If he regained "old muscle" while gaining some fat, of course it = possible.
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Wow, just think of the locker room showers, Coatch coming in from a long sweaty workout, starts undressing, in comes ZeB Atlas, hey Coatch, would you like to take a steam with me? Oh sure brother, we are friends why not. Then they go into the steam room for a great after workout steam.
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Wow, just think of the locker room showers, Coatch coming in from a long sweaty workout, starts undressing, in comes ZeB Atlas, hey Coatch, would you like to take a steam with me? Oh sure brother, we are friends why not. Then they go into the steam room for a great after workout steam.
haha yeah they train at the same gym
does he train heavy, croatch?
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A lot of jealousy in this thread. ::)
If he says he is natural, i believe him because i think his physique is attainable for a natural. He looks great either way.
The only person who knows is Croatch himself, so all you internet "experts" can stop debating this because you are wasting your time.
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Croatch is legit, no doubt. You fellas who say you can't get that size naturally really need to go back to the drawing board. He puts it all out there in his videos, and I don't see him lying about this. Plus, the dude brings teh funny consistently, he may be short, ugly and a card carrying member of homos for hire, but the dude is natural. And this is coming from someone who posts mostly on the AAS board.
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It's sad how some people doubt what is in their face. If money were on the line, I could drop down to 150lbs again, then go up to 205lbs 7%bf....GUARANTEED....NO DRUGS. It gets tiring hearing people question what my gains are. I'd like to get a pool going and be drug tested for the experiment.
Chances are, it would never take place...but if I could guarantee being paid by people who doubt it, it would be worth it and a challenge. It would probably only take me 9 months to add the weight, then trim up to a lean 205lbs. I would even make a dvd on it and feature the posters on getbig.
More interesting than any Cutler dvd ever...not a big win there..haha
Pretty basic. The first 6 months of that year, I ate pretty well, but nothing too crazy. Then, I began to eat 3lbs of chicken, in addition to eggs in the morning/oatmeal, plus a shake or two. There were a few more things in there, but that was it...essentially. Try eating a few lbs per day, you'll see immediate strength size gains. The funny thing about diet, is it's so simple, but few really sac up and do it for any decent length of time.
Someone sponsor this. Ron, Mindspin, Ryan..or anyone with some money...make this happen.
call it "From Jacked to Cracked and Back"
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Wow, just think of the locker room showers, Coatch coming in from a long sweaty workout, starts undressing, in comes ZeB Atlas, hey Coatch, would you like to take a steam with me? Oh sure brother, we are friends why not. Then they go into the steam room for a great after workout steam.
Thanks. I just fucking puked.
haha yeah they train at the same gym
does he train heavy, croatch?
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Not so much. Another heavy drug user, like everyone at Gold's. At least he has good genetics for them, but still, just drugs.
A lot of jealousy in this thread. ::)
If he says he is natural, i believe him because i think his physique is attainable for a natural. He looks great either way.
The only person who knows is Croatch himself, so all you internet "experts" can stop debating this because you are wasting your time.
Look at any of my posts, never do I questions what someone says about being natural or not. Why someone would lie, unless it's for monetary gain, is beyond me. Even more pathetic than juicing itself. ;)
No......Couldn't be done even with gear.
You have been lifting for 20 years or something? You must be joking, right? I could do a pro cycle tomorrow and put on 30lbs in 3 months, without blinking and barely training.
For someone who claims to know something about the human body, you surely don't. ;)
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Someone sponsor this. Ron, Mindspin, Ryan..or anyone with some money...make this happen.
call it "From Jacked to Cracked and Back"
I'd be into doing that challenge, but I'd document it on dvd and sell it through getbig. You'd get all the "cutting edge" Croatch insights to the world, as a bonus on the dvd. I'd have to get some funds up front, then the rest when it was complete. Why someone would put up money for this, is beyond me..haha, but I'd do it.
Sections would include:
-Breast Impants vs. Real Titties
-Steroids, My thoughts
-Receding Hairline, how to attain a cool one like myself
-Chronic Masturbation, the pitfalls and perks
-Getbig, tips on owning people in an imaginary internet world
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Wow, just think of the locker room showers, Coatch coming in from a long sweaty workout, starts undressing, in comes ZeB Atlas, hey Coatch, would you like to take a steam with me? Oh sure brother, we are friends why not. Then they go into the steam room for a great after workout steam.
Ok man, i agree Croatch looks great, but I think you took that a tad far :-X
Its cool that you started a Croatch appreciation thread, but I think you may be "appreciating" him a bit too much. :-\
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Ok man, i agree Croatch looks great, but I think you took that a tad far :-X
Its cool that you started a Croatch appreciation thread, but I think you may be "appreciating" him a bit too much. :-\
The gay runs deep on this one. :-\ Creepy.
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The gay runs deep on this one. :-\ Creepy.
Yea it is. It seems he wants to "run deep" into you :-X
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If he regained "old muscle" while gaining some fat, of course it = possible.
But he didn't have that kind muscle to begin with. or am I wrong about that?
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Ok man, i agree Croatch looks great, but I think you took that a tad far :-X
Its cool that you started a Croatch appreciation thread, but I think you may be "appreciating" him a bit too much. :-\
There was nothing gay about what I said, just two grown men taking a steam together after a long hard workout ::)
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There was nothing gay about what I said, just two grown men taking a steam together after a long hard workout ::)
Sounds gay to me :-\
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Actually Croach it's 34 years. Oh you can definately put on 54lbs of bodyweight in a year with gear and it doesnt even have to be a "pro" cycle. But your claiming 54lbs of lean muscle which is complete crap. Lets put this way. Even if you put on "54lbs" of bodyweight, come off the cycle and see the results. You might, just might if all the planets are aligned and the world is perfect, you'd keep maybe 20-25% of that. But this the kicker, you claim to have done this naturally. C'mom now!
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Actually Croach it's 34 years. Oh you can definately put on 54lbs of bodyweight in a year with gear and it doesnt even have to be a "pro" cycle. But your claiming 54lbs of lean muscle which is complete crap. Lets put this way. Even if you put on "54lbs" of bodyweight, come off the cycle and see the results. You might, just might if all the planets are aligned and the world is perfect, you'd keep maybe 20-25% of that. But this the kicker, you claim to have done this naturally. C'mom now!
Actually Croach it's 34 years. Oh you can definately put on 54lbs of bodyweight in a year with gear and it doesnt even have to be a "pro" cycle. But your claiming 54lbs of lean muscle which is complete crap. Lets put this way. Even if you put on "54lbs" of bodyweight, come off the cycle and see the results. You might, just might if all the planets are aligned and the world is perfect, you'd keep maybe 20-25% of that. But this the kicker, you claim to have done this naturally. C'mom now!
Not 50lbs lean mass. Probably 35lbs or so...maybe 40lbs? 50lbs overall though.
Compare the shots yourself.
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Natural or Not your hair line fucks it all up for you! You look like a juicer with that hairline.
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Natural or Not your hair line fucks it all up for you! You look like a juicer with that hairline.
Thanks. I'm going to commit suicide now. :D
Take a look at the picture on the left. That's how bad the hairline is fucking me up. ;D
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I cant see pics on this phone but the bottomline is nobody knows because there was never progress records or any sort of BMI done so this this whole thread might just as well be useless.
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Who is that homo?
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Thanks. I'm going to commit suicide now. :D
Take a look at the picture on the left. That's how bad the hairline is fucking me up. ;D
Of god go to sleep. Bro we seen your face stop now.
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Croatch, when you used Steroids was it just one cycle? Did you use injects or orals and what was it about them that made you junk them.. any bad sides?
Btw, you've always appeared to be very upfront and honest about everything, I don't doubt you.
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Not 50lbs lean mass. Probably 35lbs or so...maybe 40lbs? 50lbs overall though.
Compare the shots yourself.
Brutal GH head or alien offspring.
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But he didn't have that kind muscle to begin with. or am I wrong about that?
He almost had that kind of muscle, which leads to a gain of perhaps 5 - 10 pounds beyond his regaining. Totally possible.
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Obviously on the gas. You don't get that Jay Cutler big face without it.
The gyno excuse is pretty pathetic too...maybe it was that myoplex at the first 30 seconds.
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Its a decent video, pretty entertaining.
Two things though..
(1) It is possible to gain 54 pounds of lean muscle over the course of 6-7 years, but it is not possible to gain 54 pounds of lean muscle in 1 year. I'm sure Croatch took the entire 6-8 years of training to gain those pounds.
(2) The video seems a bit morbid in tone, kind of like the video tribute that is made to a person that just died a month ago or so. All that was needed at the end was something along these lines:
"In memory of Jeremiah "Croatch" Jacobowitz"
Aside that, good stuff..
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