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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: JOHN MATRIX on July 25, 2008, 05:30:39 PM
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he is not a bad guy, he will improve america and make the world a better place for everybody when he becomes president.
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He is a socialist..meaning he's taking my/ur/our money and given it to those who don't deserve to have it. Its not his job to make the world a better place, its his job to make our country a better place. He is naive, he's going to run business out of here faster then Bush ever did. He is very reckless with his comments and honestly he wants to own both sides of every issue....for or against everything depending what way the wind blows. Oh and for Benny...I don't care he;s black...thats just some of the things. But atleast we could discuss this without the normal name calling stupidty...for which i aplogize.
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It's his job to make this place a safer America as well. He plans to open up student Visas again, and this is a double edged sword, since your not going to fill the workers needed to check the security of those individuals that will be coming over.
Pickens has already stated money has left, and overseas banks are now being investigated because people that have money fear he may be elected. Banks in Latvia are now having to close all US accounts, Banks in Swiss now account for 20billion in unaccounted for taxed money, this past 3 months they said money has been sent to their banks form the US at unprecedented rates and numbers.
Do the math, people that have money know he is bad for America's future and theirs.
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but thats all just monopoly money anyway
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Good point...Obama has no energy policy. We need to drill, we need wind, we need nukes..we need it all to by time to develop the next thing.
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Repubs are even worse than socialists.
They privatize the profits (and privatize the commons) but always socialize the losses..
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mccain brings the gunshots and the blowing up of more limbs including iranians, OBAMA brings the peace, friendliness and hope, we can not start more wars and continue violence and not be isolationist at the same time mr HH6. matrix is drunk now
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I guess so. Obama brings a naive world view and he will get chewed up and spit out. Hope and friendlyness get u nowhere. The rgas are all praying he gets in, u don't wonder why? They know McCain wll kick the shit out of them like Bush.
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there is no need for us to be fighting wars in the middle east to begin with tho, none at all! save the money and resources and the american lives by using it on america and its needs instead.
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Sure, but we're well past that point.
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he is not a bad guy, he will improve america and make the world a better place for everybody when he becomes president.
The girl that sings the I love Obama song used to be his Girlfriend. ;)
Aside from that, if he openly showed support for Obama he'd be laughed at by his co-workers.
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I'm convinced and I'm going to make a point of it... Not only that but I'm now sure it will be easy as fuck to do!!!...
I'm going to go out and start talking on the corner... I'm going to tell people that I'm Zeeklar from the Planet Blowme and I've been sent to save the people on the Third Rock from this Sun. To do this, I'll tell them that ants were actually sent here from the Planet Buttplug 300 years ago to send out nanowaves directing people to destroy eachother. At this point, I am absolutely sure I will have a large following in no time running around killing ants. ::)
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we need it all to by time to develop the next thing.
EXACTLY!
If anything great is going to come...and it will...it will come from the United States.
there is no need for us to be fighting wars in the middle east to begin with tho, none at all! save the money and resources and the american lives by using it on america and its needs instead.
Sure we can all agree on that. But through this was, were killing terrorist daily, and disrupting peace in the middle east culminating their downfall, problem is our military spending is about 6% of our GDP, and that is the problems that the expansion of the British empire saw, brinkmanship can only work so long.
haha peace in the middle east ::)
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EXACTLY!
If anything great is going to come...and it will...it will come from the United States.
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I guess so. Obama brings a naive world view and he will get chewed up and spit out. Hope and friendlyness get u nowhere. The rgas are all praying he gets in, u don't wonder why? They know McCain wll kick the shit out of them like Bush.
Yes on the world playground only one thing rings true:
Kill or be killed!
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Do the math, people that have money know he is bad for America's future and theirs.
Nobody has more money than Warren Buffet, and...
He is a socialist..meaning he's taking my/ur/our money and given it to those who don't deserve to have it. Its not his job to make the world a better place, its his job to make our country a better place. He is naive, he's going to run business out of here faster then Bush ever did. He is very reckless with his comments and honestly he wants to own both sides of every issue....for or against everything depending what way the wind blows. Oh and for Benny...I don't care he;s black...thats just some of the things. But atleast we could discuss this without the normal name calling stupidty...for which i aplogize.
Is this apology directed to me? ???
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Good point...Obama has no energy policy. We need to drill, we need wind, we need nukes..we need it all to by time to develop the next thing.
BOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
Barack Obama's Plan
Reduce Carbon Emissions 80 Percent by 2050
* Cap and Trade: Obama supports implementation of a market-based cap-and-trade system to reduce carbon emissions by the amount scientists say is necessary: 80 percent below 1990 levels by 2050. Obama's cap-and-trade system will require all pollution credits to be auctioned. A 100 percent auction ensures that all polluters pay for every ton of emissions they release, rather than giving these emission rights away to coal and oil companies. Some of the revenue generated by auctioning allowances will be used to support the development of clean energy, to invest in energy efficiency improvements, and to address transition costs, including helping American workers affected by this economic transition.
* Confront Deforestation and Promote Carbon Sequestration: Obama will develop domestic incentives that reward forest owners, farmers, and ranchers when they plant trees, restore grasslands, or undertake farming practices that capture carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.
Invest in a Clean Energy Future
* Invest $150 Billion over 10 Years in Clean Energy: Obama will invest $150 billion over 10 years to advance the next generation of biofuels and fuel infrastructure, accelerate the commercialization of plug-in hybrids, promote development of commercial-scale renewable energy, invest in low-emissions coal plants, and begin the transition to a new digital electricity grid. A principal focus of this fund will be devoted to ensuring that technologies that are developed in the U.S. are rapidly commercialized in the U.S. and deployed around the globe.
* Double Energy Research and Development Funding: Obama will double science and research funding for clean energy projects including those that make use of our biomass, solar and wind resources.
* Invest in a Skilled Clean Technologies Workforce: Obama will use proceeds from the cap-and-trade auction program to invest in job training and transition programs to help workers and industries adapt to clean technology development and production. Obama will also create an energy-focused Green Jobs Corps to connect disconnected and disadvantaged youth with job skills for a high-growth industry.
* Convert our Manufacturing Centers into Clean Technology Leaders: Obama will establish a federal investment program to help manufacturing centers modernize and Americans learn the new skills they need to produce green products.
* Clean Technologies Deployment Venture Capital Fund: Obama will create a Clean Technologies Venture Capital Fund to fill a critical gap in U.S. technology development. Obama will invest $10 billion per year into this fund for five years. The fund will partner with existing investment funds and our National Laboratories to ensure that promising technologies move beyond the lab and are commercialized in the U.S
* Require 25 Percent of Renewable Electricity by 2025: Obama will establish a 25 percent federal Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) to require that 25 percent of electricity consumed in the U.S. is derived from clean, sustainable energy sources, like solar, wind and geothermal by 2025.
* Develop and Deploy Clean Coal Technology: Obama will significantly increase the resources devoted to the commercialization and deployment of low-carbon coal technologies. Obama will consider whatever policy tools are necessary, including standards that ban new traditional coal facilities, to ensure that we move quickly to commercialize and deploy low carbon coal technology.
Support Next Generation Biofuels
* Deploy Cellulosic Ethanol: Obama will invest federal resources, including tax incentives, cash prizes and government contracts into developing the most promising technologies with the goal of getting the first two billion gallons of cellulosic ethanol into the system by 2013.
* Expand Locally-Owned Biofuel Refineries: Less than 10 percent of new ethanol production today is from farmer-owned refineries. New ethanol refineries help jumpstart rural economies. Obama will create a number of incentives for local communities to invest in their biofuels refineries.
* Establish a National Low Carbon Fuel Standard: Barack Obama will establish a National Low Carbon Fuel Standard to speed the introduction of low-carbon non-petroleum fuels. The standard requires fuels suppliers to reduce the carbon their fuel emits by ten percent by 2020.
* Increase Renewable Fuel Standard: Obama will require 36 billion gallons of renewable fuels to be included in the fuel supply by 2022 and will increase that to at least 60 billion gallons of advanced biofuels like cellulosic ethanol by 2030.
Set America on Path to Oil Independence
Obama's plan will reduce oil consumption by at least 35 percent, or 10 million barrels per day, by 2030. This will more than offset the equivalent of the oil we would import from OPEC nations in 2030.
* Increase Fuel Economy Standards: Obama will double fuel economy standards within 18 years. His plan will provide retooling tax credits and loan guarantees for domestic auto plants and parts manufacturers, so that they can build new fuel-efficient cars rather than overseas companies. Obama will also invest in advanced vehicle technology such as advanced lightweight materials and new engines.
Improve Energy Efficiency 50 Percent by 2030
* Set National Building Efficiency Goals: Barack Obama will establish a goal of making all new buildings carbon neutral, or produce zero emissions, by 2030. He'll also establish a national goal of improving new building efficiency by 50 percent and existing building efficiency by 25 percent over the next decade to help us meet the 2030 goal.
* Establish a Grant Program for Early Adopters: Obama will create a competitive grant program to award those states and localities that take the first steps to implement new building codes that prioritize energy efficiency.
* Invest in a Digital Smart Grid: Obama will pursue a major investment in our utility grid to enable a tremendous increase in renewable generation and accommodate modern energy requirements, such as reliability, smart metering, and distributed storage
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He is a socialist..meaning he's taking my/ur/our money and given it to those who don't deserve to have it.
are you also upset that Bush is taking billions of taxpayer dollars (or borrowed from china in our name) and giving it to private american banks to fix the debts and keep them in business?
Cause many feel that's socialism. Using public funds to help irresponsible pvt individuals.
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Cause many feel that's socialism. Using public funds to help irresponsible pvt individuals.
I would call the economic stimulus plan socialist. And I would call the bailing out of homeowners a tragedy, giving the WRONG PEOPLE A BREAK. When land developers and contractors are upside down.
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I would call the economic stimulus plan socialist. And I would call the bailing out of homeowners a tragedy, giving the WRONG PEOPLE A BREAK. When land developers and contractors are upside down.
The CEOs of these companies don't have to return their bonuses.
They made outrageous, unsafe loans for 6 years. They KNEW rates would go up and ARMs would shoot up, and many people would default. They lent anyway, and kept all the bonus money ;)
Now, they want the govt to pay off all their deadbeat clients. They took big risk and got big profits. Now, they're using our tax and social security dollars to pay off their debt.
It's corporate welfare, isn't it?