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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: rockedupmotha on July 27, 2008, 11:44:12 AM
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Test enanthate, equipoise, and tren how would you stack them together and how long of a cycle?
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need more info. height/weight, how much you have of each compound, goals etc.
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Here's what I would do:
Weeks 1-20 750mg of Test E
Weeks 1-20 500mg of EQ
Weeks 16-20 50mg EOD of Tren A
Weeks 22-25 PCT
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Here's what I would do:
Weeks 1-20 750mg of Test E
Weeks 1-20 500mg of EQ
Weeks 16-20 50mg EOD of Tren A
Weeks 22-25 PCT
Why only 5 weeks of tren Rimmy? Just curious as I don't really have a better plan.
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Why only 5 weeks of tren Rimmy? Just curious as I don't really have a better plan.
No real reason. Since I/we have little to go on I just threw something together.
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i would drop the eq and add that amount of mg to your testosterone total.
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i would drop the eq and add that amount of mg to your testosterone total.
so you are saying he should use 1250mg/week test. what if this is his 1st or 2nd time?
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so you are saying he should use 1250mg/week test. what if this is his 1st or 2nd time?
im not suggesting any doseage. he can use whatever he wants. i just suggested he lose the tren and add that amount of mg to the test.
but i would hypothesize that 1250mg of test would be healthier more beneficial and have less ill side effects than 750 test + 500 eq... testosterone is a bioidentical hormone where equipoise is a drug made for horses...
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im not suggesting any doseage. he can use whatever he wants. i just suggested he lose the tren and add that amount of mg to the test.
No you suggested he drop the eq not tren.
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No you suggested he drop the eq not tren.
aaahhhhh my mistake, thats what i meant of course
although if he is worried about health id suggest that as well.... drop eq AND tren and throw the entire total to testosterone.
anyway, while tren itself might be, by the numbers, a more potent muscle builder than testoosterone is, if you take the fact that tren doesnt aromatize, and testosterone does...then you compare test+estroa to tren... i think your going to see that the test is much more effective. (although no substitute for intense training...which i think tren gives much more intense training than testosterone.... shit i bought up a bunch of the tren prohormones just for that reason !! ;D )
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aaahhhhh my mistake, thats what i meant of course
although if he is worried about health id suggest that as well.... drop eq AND tren and throw the entire total to testosterone.
anyway, while tren itself might be, by the numbers, a more potent muscle builder than testoosterone is, if you take the fact that tren doesnt aromatize, and testosterone does...then you compare test+estroa to tren... i think your going to see that the test is much more effective. (although no substitute for intense training...which i think tren gives much more intense training than testosterone.... shit i bought up a bunch of the tren prohormones just for that reason !! ;D )
Settle down. I only built a cycle around what he had listed.
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i am settled.
i wasn't critiquing you. just discussing the topic at hand is all.
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should have about 15 cc's of all three. i'm about 5'8" -190lbs at about 12% body comp
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I think the cycle Rim laid out was good and is what I would do and have done with good results.
And also agree if you can, run the tren longer and at 50mg ED.
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im not suggesting any doseage. he can use whatever he wants. i just suggested he lose the tren and add that amount of mg to the test.
but i would hypothesize that 1250mg of test would be healthier more beneficial and have less ill side effects than 750 test + 500 eq... testosterone is a bioidentical hormone where equipoise is a drug made for horses...
This is exactly why people here hammer you. You talk like you know what you speak of. I would def run the tren before I added that amount of mg in total test. I'm not nusting your balls candi, but get some experience before you start telling people how to run their cycles. Most boards you would be banned for such things.
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This is exactly why people here hammer you. You talk like you know what you speak of. I would def run the tren before I added that amount of mg in total test. I'm not nusting your balls candi, but get some experience before you start telling people how to run their cycles. Most boards you would be banned for such things.
4th, YOU WOULD BE WRONG. :D
and go back and read the thread, that was mistype, i had said previously i was talking about dropping the eq and adding that to the testosterone total.
you got no idea what i have or have not experienced and im not going to sit here and brag about taking steroids like some o you clowns.
"one time...i took 1250mg test per week along with 50mg dbol.
8)"
"omg bro , thats a cycle !! lol bro props bro damn bro "
::) ::)
llaammmmeeeeee
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Im not talking about the mix up between tren and EQ, so you would be wrong candi. I'm talking of the absolutely no experience with gear use and all the advice you give on a regular basis. You can flame all you want, it does not really mean anything to me, but it does show your character and maturity level.
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saying anything negative about whaat i posts DOES reveal your character and also what you personally know. :D
http://joe.endocrinology-journals.org/
http://bodyofscience.com/forum/index.php
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saying anything negative about whaat i posts DOES reveal your character and also what you personally know. :D
http://joe.endocrinology-journals.org/
http://bodyofscience.com/forum/index.php
OK old wise dizzle. Your right I dont know anything, nor does anyone else that disagrees with you. Don't forget I was the one who told you about BoS. ;D
Someone saying something negative about some of your posts does not deem them of bad character. People sometimes disagree with some things I post, and that does not make them of bad character at all. Sometimes my thinking may be off, or possibly theirs. You on the other hand are like a southern baptist preacher spreading the gospel, only difference, is you have no real life experience. Which is not necessarily a bad thing unless you are duping others(newbs) into thinking you do. Some of the things you preach here could be potentially dangerous. No need to respond dizzle, because I'm done with you. I would like to help you, so contact me when you grow up a little. Peace!
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Why in the world would this guy drop the EQ and tren and replace it with test, so that he does a
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Sorry got cut off.... There are incredible benefits to stalking with test, besides thats what he chose. I would do what RIM advised except I would stretch the tren to 8 weeks
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what are the doseages of your product?
and are they UG or Human grade?
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Why in the world would this guy drop the EQ and tren and replace it with test, so that he does a
i suggested h drop teh eq and move that to test. it would yeild much better results to run it that way.
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i suggested h drop teh eq and move that to test. it would yeild much better results to run it that way.
How do you know, have you run it this way? This is what I'm talking about. You are recommending a high dose of test, and don't even know this guys cycle history.
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i suggested h drop teh eq and move that to test. it would yeild much better results to run it that way.
No it wouldn't give him better results, his body isn't ready to reap the benefits of over 1000 mg of test at this point. Furthemore by taking EQ he will see far less side effects since EQ is a lot milder then just test, less water retention, hence leaner muscle growth then just test alone, joint support and strength will also be an advantage. The conversion to estrogen is about half of what the test will produce. Its a vary nice stack, vary under rated, why you would say such a thing is beyond me, for someone with experience this is a no brainer.
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No it wouldn't give him better results, his body isn't ready to reap the benefits of over 1000 mg of test at this point. Furthemore by taking EQ he will see far less side effects since EQ is a lot milder then just test, less water retention, hence leaner muscle growth then just test alone, joint support and strength will also be an advantage. The conversion to estrogen is about half of what the test will produce. Its a vary nice stack, vary under rated, why you would say such a thing is beyond me, for someone with experience this is a no brainer.
He has no experience. Thats the point I'm trying to make to him with all his advice BS. He came on here(hardcore boards) ready and willing to learn and listen. Then suddenly he has morphed into this steroid guru. I like candi, but he takes criticism very badly, and retaliates in full force with name calling and personal threats. That is uncalled for on this board. Most boards would have shown him the front door a long time ago. He's lucky GB's policies are lenient.
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you think im a steroid guru ? :o
lol
i understand most guys just say "ummm yeah this is what always works for me, try that"... but somebody who addresses questions with references to physiological actions of AAS,,, doesnt necessarily make them a guru
although im flatered that you think so
gracias por de compliment
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you think im a steroid guru ? :o
lol
i understand most guys just say "ummm yeah this is what always works for me, try that"... but somebody who addresses questions with references to physiological actions of AAS,,, doesnt necessarily make them a guru
although im flatered that you think so
gracias por de compliment
Actually you have taken this out of context young dizzle. You think your the steroid guru, I don't really think so at all. Funny how you all of the sudden want to go to war with me also, just because I disagree with what you say. Look listen and learn, it will do you good.
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lol...okay... and now i "want to go to war"... and i think im a guru... :D
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lol...okay... and now i "want to go to war"... and i think im a guru... :D
I don't think you give bad advise, actually a lot of it is good. I do think that some stuff you say sounds like research instead of actual experience and some research backed up by professionals and university scholers and even doctors is wrong, we are the ones in the trenches and I am the one thats almost dies getting down to 2% bodyfat for my shows, so because I was once 140 pounder in high school and now I have 20 inch arms this gives me the right to tell people how to travel down that journey with the proper tools and taking proper short cuts. This is my route not some guy typing on the computer, however you are intelligent and you learn fast but you need time to observe your own knowledge before you get a head of yourself. Me and you get along and you and the others don't, the best thing to do is to keep the conversation civilized and don't get mad at what some of these guys say to you. They may be a little insulted because they have been around along time and sometimes you sound a little arrogant, just my opinion.
And everybody else... man you guys got to stop messing with the guy.
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i could go on and on about what ive experimented with and what my results have been. but then i would get bombarded with nonsense and threads on the g&o calling me out on my "claimss"...instead i phrase everything and say everything from a scientific viewpoint..
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I don't think you give bad advise, actually a lot of it is good. I do think that some stuff you say sounds like research instead of actual experience and some research backed up by professionals and university scholers and even doctors is wrong, we are the ones in the trenches and I am the one thats almost dies getting down to 2% bodyfat for my shows, so because I was once 140 pounder in high school and now I have 20 inch arms this gives me the right to tell people how to travel down that journey with the proper tools and taking proper short cuts. This is my route not some guy typing on the computer, however you are intelligent and you learn fast but you need time to observe your own knowledge before you get a head of yourself. Me and you get along and you and the others don't, the best thing to do is to keep the conversation civilized and don't get mad at what some of these guys say to you. They may be a little insulted because they have been around along time and sometimes you sound a little arrogant, just my opinion.
And everybody else... man you guys got to stop messing with the guy.
Hey bro I was one of dizzles biggest supporters on this board until I couldn't take it anymore. We also used to get along. He is disrespectful to the mods and members here and also has probably never run a PCT yet. I got to the point where I just lost my patience with him, and he takes things way over board. He is arrogant and has given out possibly dangerous advice in the past. Hang around a while and really to him talk like he has walked this road many times before. He recommends high dose test for newbs, with out even knowing their cycle experience. I actually like dizzle as a person, he just needs to tone it down a knotch or two! ;D
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i wasn't critiquing you. just discussing the topic at hand is all.
You are not in the position to "critique" stupid ::)
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Hey bro I was one of dizzles biggest supporters on this board until I couldn't take it anymore. We also used to get along. He is disrespectful to the mods and members here and also has probably never run a PCT yet. I got to the point where I just lost my patience with him, and he takes things way over board. He is arrogant and has given out possibly dangerous advice in the past. Hang around a while and really to him talk like he has walked this road many times before. He recommends high dose test for newbs, with out even knowing their cycle experience. I actually like dizzle as a person, he just needs to tone it down a knotch or two! ;D
your making shit up. when has my advice been dangerous, and when have i advised high dose test to a newB ?
pathetic, 4th.
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Wow. Now I remember why I stopped posting here. Anyway, back on topic if that's OK:
should have about 15 cc's of all three. i'm about 5'8" -190lbs at about 12% body comp
Giving cc's is completely, absolutely meaningless without the concentrations.
Also, your past cycle experience is important for us to know. Remember, any dipshit can take steroids, and any dipshit can write out a cycle for you, but it does depend on what you have done before. How old are you? How long do you want to stay on? What are your goals? What training problems are you having or what deficiencies in your physique are you trying to overcome?
My present cycle includes test e (Galenika) at 1000mg per week x 24 weeks, EQ (Diamond Labs) at 600 mg per week for 16 weeks, replaced by tren acetate (Diamond Labs) at 100mg per day for the last 8 weeks, and I also had some orals timed in (winny, and then anavar at the end, which I've just started). Works for me, but may not be right for you.
Honestly, I felt like the EQ was worthless, but the tren kicked ass.
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Wow. Now I remember why I stopped posting here. Anyway, back on topic if that's OK:
Giving cc's is completely, absolutely meaningless without the concentrations.
Also, your past cycle experience is important for us to know. Remember, any dipshit can take steroids, and any dipshit can write out a cycle for you, but it does depend on what you have done before. How old are you? How long do you want to stay on? What are your goals? What training problems are you having or what deficiencies in your physique are you trying to overcome?
My present cycle includes test e (Galenika) at 1000mg per week x 24 weeks, EQ (Diamond Labs) at 600 mg per week for 16 weeks, replaced by tren acetate (Diamond Labs) at 100mg per day for the last 8 weeks, and I also had some orals timed in (winny, and then anavar at the end, which I've just started). Works for me, but may not be right for you.
Honestly, I felt like the EQ was worthless, but the tren kicked ass.
Good post 8)
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Wow. Now I remember why I stopped posting here. Anyway, back on topic if that's OK:
Well, freak you & a couple others are diffidently missed.
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i could go on and on about what ive experimented with and what my results have been. but then i would get bombarded with nonsense and threads on the g&o calling me out on my "claimss"...instead i phrase everything and say everything from a scientific viewpoint..
Well, then enlighten everyone & maybe you'll stop getting so much shit here. Why do you care so much about what those on the G&O say? Or do you enjoy the attention (although often negative)?
How you phrase things often comes out condescending at times & I don't think you realize.
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freakfest you should post more. be nice if trab would come back also. lots of knowledge among you two.
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Yep I appreciate what you add to this board also FreakFestMD. I apologize if I offended you in any way bro, but I cant take people with zero experience talking up a big game. I am definitely not the most experienced guy here, but when you have no experience you should be a little humble at least.
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Yep I appreciate what you add to this board also FreakFestMD. I apologize if I offended you in any way bro, but I cant take people with zero experience talking up a big game. I am definitely not the most experienced guy here, but when you have no experience you should be a little humble at least.
:-*
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dizzle
and then you wonder why people hate you? you are lucky most of the info you wiped already from the net is in my hands and not somewhere else, so you dont have to pm every user here crying for mercy.
Most of the people is pretty tired of you, most had give you a lot of their time to answer your questions, but the way you act doesnt really represent someone who claims to be adult and smart.
Change, theres always time.
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dizzle
and then you wonder why people hate you? you are lucky most of the info you wiped already from the net is in my hands and not somewhere else, so you dont have to pm every user here crying for mercy.
Most of the people is pretty tired of you, most had give you a lot of their time to answer your questions, but the way you act doesnt really represent someone who claims to be adult and smart.
Change, theres always time.
Good post benz
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freakfest you should post more. be nice if trab would come back also. lots of knowledge among you two.
Agreed. But they've pretty much been driven away.
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dizzle
and then you wonder why people hate you? you are lucky most of the info you wiped already from the net is in my hands and not somewhere else, so you dont have to pm every user here crying for mercy.
Most of the people is pretty tired of you, most had give you a lot of their time to answer your questions, but the way you act doesnt really represent someone who claims to be adult and smart.
Change, theres always time.
Nice post benz. I'm growing tired of deleting posts.
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Not sure if someone answered but it is acording to your experience with anabolic.
Basic cycle would be:
TestE 250mg 2x's ew for 10 weeks
eq200mg 2x's ew for 10 weeks
trenE 200mg ew for 10 weeks
If you have enough eq preload 400-600mg ew 3-4 weeks before cycle start.
If you have trenA then 100mg ed to eod weeks 6-10.
Take note of progress:
Sometimes it takes years to find the perfect combo.
Everyone if different
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thanks i think this is the one i'll go with...
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Agreed. But they've pretty much been driven away.
Nahhh IF they were commited and really enjoyed the community it would take more than a troll or two to drive them off I hope.