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Title: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: a_joker10 on July 29, 2008, 09:10:55 AM
How soon until reparations for both the first nations and the blacks.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/29/house.slavery/index.html
 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The House of Representatives was poised Tuesday to pass a resolution apologizing to African-Americans for slavery and the era of Jim Crow.
The House is poised to pass a resolution that would apologize for slavery and Jim Crow.

The House is poised to pass a resolution that would apologize for slavery and Jim Crow.

The nonbinding resolution, which is expected to pass, was introduced by Rep. Steve Cohen, a white lawmaker who represents a majority black district in Memphis, Tennessee.

While many states have apologized for slavery, it will be first time a branch of the federal government will apologize for slavery if the resolution passes, an aide to Cohen said.

By passing the resolution, the House would also acknowledge the "injustice, cruelty, brutality and inhumanity of slavery and Jim Crow."

Jim Crow, or Jim Crow laws, were state and local laws enacted mostly in the Southern and border states of the United States between the 1870s and 1965, when African-Americans were denied the right to vote and other civil liberties and were legally segregated from whites.

The resolution states that "the vestiges of Jim Crow continue to this day."

"African-Americans continue to suffer from the consequences of slavery and Jim Crow -- long after both systems were formally abolished -- through enormous damage and loss, both tangible and intangible, including the loss of human dignity and liberty, the frustration of careers and professional lives, and the long-term loss of income and opportunity," the resolution states.

The House would also commit itself to stopping "the occurrence of human rights violations in the future," if it passes the resolution.

The resolution does not address the controversial issue of reparations. Some members of the African-American community have called on lawmakers to give cash payments or other financial benefits to descendents of slaves as compensation for the suffering caused by slavery.

The resolution will not be the first time lawmakers have apologized to an ethnic group for past injustices.

In April, the Senate passed a resolution sponsored by Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kansas, that apologized to Native Americans for "the many instances of violence, maltreatment and neglect."

In 1993, the Senate also passed a resolution apologizing for the "illegal overthrow" of the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1893.

In 1988, Congress passed and President Reagan signed a law apologizing to the 120,000 Japanese-Americans who were held in detention camps during World War II. The 60,000 detainees who were alive at the time each received $20,000 from the government.


Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: youandme on July 29, 2008, 09:12:20 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 29, 2008, 03:54:48 PM
Read the first three sentences....

Wow ::)
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 29, 2008, 03:55:56 PM
Anyone here know of any living former slaves or slave owners?  ???
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: Benny B on July 29, 2008, 04:05:32 PM
It's about fucking time.  ::)

Anyone here know of any living former slaves or slave owners?  ???
No, but I know quite a few that are the grandson and granddaughter of "former slaves" . They also lived through de facto slavery...that period of Jim Crow that you seemed to ignore.  ;)
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: tonymctones on July 29, 2008, 04:19:28 PM
is the government going to apologize for the discrimination that whites have suffered at the hands of affirmative action?
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: youandme on July 29, 2008, 04:20:01 PM
"In this resolution the apology hereinafter should be directed towards "slavechilds""

Weird
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: JBGRAY on July 29, 2008, 04:31:06 PM
Formal apologies will only open the way for more possible discussion for monetary Reparations to all blacks.  Hey, let's destroy the black community even further with even more handouts.

This apology is nothing more than momentarily symbolic, and will be forgotten soon enough.
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: tonymctones on July 29, 2008, 04:32:15 PM
Formal apologies will only open the way for more possible discussion for monetary Reparations to all blacks.  Hey, let's destroy the black community even further with even more handouts.

This apology is nothing more than momentarily symbolic, and will be forgotten soon enough.
exactly and exactly this just opens the door...
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: Fury on July 29, 2008, 04:43:47 PM
I heard they're going to be handing these out with each apology...

Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: 2ND COMING on July 29, 2008, 04:45:43 PM
what a fucking joke
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: tu_holmes on July 29, 2008, 04:45:43 PM
Ridiculous... Even if you give them money, like they said in that Ice Cube movie.

"It ain't gonna do nothing but make Cadillac the number one car in America."
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: TerminalPower on July 29, 2008, 06:26:32 PM
This will accomplish nothing. 
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: w8tlftr on July 29, 2008, 07:02:08 PM
What a load of shit.

It's high time for blacks to get over their sense of entitlement. No one in this life owes anyone jackshit - you get what you work for. Period.

No wonder Asian and Indian immigrants come to America and run circles around them.

However, if reparations does pass I'm going to buy stock in KFC and GM.  ;D


Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: 24KT on July 30, 2008, 09:51:06 PM
What a load of shit.

It's high time for blacks to get over their sense of entitlement. No one in this life owes anyone jackshit - you get what you work for. Period.

No wonder Asian and Indian immigrants come to America and run circles around them.

However, if reparations does pass I'm going to buy stock in KFC and GM.  ;D


Just in time for the crash! Kewl! You don't actually think lawmakers will give a whole bunch of money to black people without devising a way to get it all back again do you?

ps: your bottom is looking ripe.
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: CARTEL on July 30, 2008, 10:00:05 PM
There won't be any cash.

Just 40 acres and a mule.
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: w8tlftr on July 31, 2008, 11:31:49 AM
Just in time for the crash! Kewl! You don't actually think lawmakers will give a whole bunch of money to black people without devising a way to get it all back again do you?

ps: your bottom is looking ripe.

LOL

You're right, Judi. The gubbamint doesn't give anything away for free.

Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: 24KT on July 31, 2008, 01:31:46 PM
LOL

You're right, Judi. The gubbamint doesn't give anything away for free.


What's a gubbamint?
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: w8tlftr on July 31, 2008, 02:54:29 PM
What's a gubbamint?

it's who i gits mah booze money from - teh gubbamint.  ;D
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: OzmO on July 31, 2008, 02:57:25 PM
What a load of shit.

It's high time for blacks to get over their sense of entitlement. No one in this life owes anyone jackshit - you get what you work for. Period.

No wonder Asian and Indian immigrants come to America and run circles around them.


yep
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: shootfighter1 on August 01, 2008, 06:56:04 AM
I have no problem with the federal gov issuing a formal appology/recognizing the injustice in allowing slavery in this country's history. 

However, the reparations issue needs to be dropped completely.
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: Option D on August 01, 2008, 07:11:46 AM
is the government going to apologize for the discrimination that whites have suffered at the hands of affirmative action?

well with a 400 year head start and leglislation that specifically worked in whites favor and to the disfavor of non whites (minus irish because they did have it bad when they first came to new work in the mid 1800s)
I would think that some kind of provisions were made..
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 01, 2008, 09:28:04 AM
Well I'm glad they are going to apologize to my great great grandma and grandpa for getting whipped from the back to pick peanuts and cotton, however they've been dead for about 80 years so its pretty pointless.

As far as the reparations are concerned....chuckle.  You can't pay back wages for 400 years of slavery.  However if they start handing out checks then I'm not going to say a word.  Hell, the Cherokee where I live around don't.  They don't have a work a single day in their lives..... ;D
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: youandme on August 01, 2008, 09:31:39 AM
Well I'm glad they are going to apologize to my great great grandma and grandpa for getting whipped from the back to pick peanuts and cotton, however they've been dead for about 80 years so its pretty pointless.

As far as the reparations are concerned....chuckle.  You can't pay back wages for 400 years of slavery.  However if they start handing out checks then I'm not going to say a word.  Hell, the Cherokee where I live around don't.  They don't have a work a single day in their lives..... ;D

Get back in the damn tool shed, you got cotton to pick and bee pollen
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: Option D on August 01, 2008, 10:23:35 AM
Well I'm glad they are going to apologize to my great great grandma and grandpa for getting whipped from the back to pick peanuts and cotton, however they've been dead for about 80 years so its pretty pointless.

As far as the reparations are concerned....chuckle.  You can't pay back wages for 400 years of slavery.  However if they start handing out checks then I'm not going to say a word.  Hell, the Cherokee where I live around don't.  They don't have a work a single day in their lives..... ;D

Yeah....seeing how free capitol/labor enabled the US to become the richest country w/o overhead  costs...i would say that to pay the decendants of slaves the fed would have to hand over ft. knox... ;D
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: 24KT on August 01, 2008, 01:45:25 PM
Yeah....seeing how free capitol/labor enabled the US to become the richest country w/o overhead  costs...i would say that to pay the decendants of slaves the fed would have to hand over ft. knox... ;D

 :o Fort Knox? ...that piggy bank has long been tapped. Fort Knox is like the Bastile during the French Revolution...

EMPTY!

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/skinnypiggybank.jpg)
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: youandme on August 01, 2008, 01:47:11 PM
:o Fort Knox? ...that piggy bank has long been tapped. Fort Knox is like the Bastile during the French Revolution...

EMPTY!

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/skinnypiggybank.jpg)

Oh brother  ::)

I guess the money went into the research for gas pills
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: 24KT on August 01, 2008, 01:49:35 PM
Oh brother  ::)

I guess the money went into the research for gas pills

Nah, ...it went into that ginormous clusterfvck called Iraq!
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: headhuntersix on August 01, 2008, 01:50:39 PM
I don't know......awful lot of security for an empty vault. Ever been there Jag?
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: 24KT on August 01, 2008, 02:13:09 PM
I don't know......awful lot of security for an empty vault. Ever been there Jag?

Have you?
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: OzmO on August 01, 2008, 02:14:46 PM
Fort knox?

Physical money or precious metals as a resource are a thing of the past.

It's all digital now.
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: Option D on August 01, 2008, 02:43:03 PM
aye well check this out...i dont know all about what yall talkin about...i just know that ft knox is where they keep gold...until i hear different im rollin with that
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: w8tlftr on August 01, 2008, 08:18:07 PM
Nah, ...it went into that ginormous clusterfvck called Iraq!

The money (gold) was gone long waaaaaaaaaaaaaay before Iraq.

Thank you, Federal Reserve.

Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: what: on August 02, 2008, 02:38:56 PM
This is absurd.  Anyone can look back far enough and find an ancestor of theirs that had their basic human rights abused.  If blacks are awarded reparations  than who is to say that Jews, for example, can't make claims against Egypt or Russia?
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: MCWAY on August 02, 2008, 03:10:12 PM
This is absurd.  Anyone can look back far enough and find an ancestor of theirs that had their basic human rights abused.  If blacks are awarded reparations  than who is to say that Jews, for example, can't make claims against Egypt or Russia?

The Jews got their reparations (and then some) for their 400 years of slavery in Egypt. So, you won't hear any complaining from them on that end.

They may want a few $$$$ from Germany, however.
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: 24KT on August 02, 2008, 04:11:28 PM
The Jews got their reparations (and then some) for their 400 years of slavery in Egypt. So, you won't hear any complaining from them on that end.

They may want a few $$$$ from Germany, however.

Many Jews have already received compensation for the property stolen from them during WWII by Swiss bankers
Title: Re: House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow
Post by: what: on August 02, 2008, 04:15:58 PM
The Jews got their reparations (and then some) for their 400 years of slavery in Egypt. So, you won't hear any complaining from them on that end.

They may want a few $$$$ from Germany, however.

Like what?