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Title: Question best for the Coach
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 05:16:26 PM
....why is it (not joking, Joe) that golphers (and even tennis) needs COMPLETE silence?

You know, the hardest thing to do is hit a round ball with a round bat (baseball), and those guys got incredibly high noise and hooting and hollering to put up with.

If the baseballers can do it, why not the other aformentioned?

Mike
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: knny187 on August 02, 2008, 05:23:49 PM
all the queers...(like tennis players too)
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 05:25:15 PM
all the queers...(like tennis players too)

Uh, Ken, that's not really an answer
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: knny187 on August 02, 2008, 05:36:30 PM
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Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: Brutal_1 on August 02, 2008, 06:02:47 PM
....why is it (not joking, Joe) that golphers (and even tennis) needs COMPLETE silence?

You know, the hardest thing to do is hit a round ball with a round bat (baseball), and those guys got incredibly high noise and hooting and hollering to put up with.

If the baseballers can do it, why not the other aformentioned?

Mike


what the HIZELL does this thread have to do with politics?!  >:(
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: Straw Man on August 02, 2008, 06:06:17 PM
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lol

I think I have a cd of this meeting
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: knny187 on August 02, 2008, 06:08:47 PM
interesting
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 06:27:36 PM
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Ummm, actually, guys like that DO give a fuck.

Thus, their lives of achievement.

Versus the other path.....
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: The Coach on August 02, 2008, 08:41:09 PM
Golf is a game of stragity, that being said when someone is getting ready to take shot or putt, there are usually alot of things that go through someones head during the time he/she walks up to the Tbox, sets up his ball, takes a couple of practice strokes, looks down the fairway to analize where to attemt to put the ball so not to get into trouble. The addressing the ball, making sure your feet, shoulders and grip are correct and making sure your the right distance from the ball at contact. Same with putting, analizing the green on which way the greens slope to the hole, looking at where and if there is a break when you putt, on a downhill slope, are you going to hit in the middle of the club or hit on the toe to take speed off? Those are the types of things that go through a persons head in just a minute or so before taking a shot or putting. One cough, one rattle of the clubs in someones bag or a camera can unravel someone enough to miss their shot.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: elite_lifter on August 02, 2008, 08:45:28 PM
Golf is a game of stragity, that being said when someone is getting ready to take shot or putt, there are usually alot of things that go through someones head during the time he/she walks up to the Tbox, sets up his ball, takes a couple of practice strokes, looks down the fairway to analize where to attemt to put the ball so not to get into trouble. The addressing the ball, making sure your feet, shoulders and grip are correct and making sure your the right distance from the ball at contact. Same with putting, analizing the green on which way the greens slope to the hole, looking at where and if there is a break when you putt, on a downhill slope, are you going to hit in the middle of the club or hit on the toe to take speed off? Those are the types of things that go through a persons head in just a minute or so before taking a shot or putting. One cough, one rattle of the clubs in someones bag or a camera can unravel someone enough to miss their shot.
When are you going on tour Coach, and I guess I won't comment on your spelling.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: SGT BARNES on August 02, 2008, 08:48:59 PM
Golf is a game of stragity, that being said when someone is getting ready to take shot or putt, there are usually alot of things that go through someones head during the time he/she walks up to the Tbox, sets up his ball, takes a couple of practice strokes, looks down the fairway to analize where to attemt to put the ball so not to get into trouble. The addressing the ball, making sure your feet, shoulders and grip are correct and making sure your the right distance from the ball at contact. Same with putting, analizing the green on which way the greens slope to the hole, looking at where and if there is a break when you putt, on a downhill slope, are you going to hit in the middle of the club or hit on the toe to take speed off? Those are the types of things that go through a persons head in just a minute or so before taking a shot or putting. One cough, one rattle of the clubs in someones bag or a camera can unravel someone enough to miss their shot.

"stratigy"...oh man, another brainiac here.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: The Coach on August 02, 2008, 08:51:07 PM
Also dont forget these guys arn't playing a team sport, they are making their own living, they're independant contractors playing for more money than most of us can ever dream of. Most if not all on tour bring sports psycologists, chiros , personal trainers, chiros and message therapists to work on them between rounds. Not taking away from other sports, but most sports are not nearly as stratigy demanding as golf. I remeber about 4 mos ago I was playing a good front 9 at hole by the time I was at hole 7 I was shooting even par. I recieved a phone call that really bothered me, I double and triple bogied the last 2 holes on the front 9. I could hit the ball to save my life at that point. I was told that Golf is at least 50% psycological, that round proved it!
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: The Coach on August 02, 2008, 08:53:46 PM
STFU dick, I'm posting from a phone, I dont have a connection where I'm at.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: elite_lifter on August 02, 2008, 08:54:03 PM
Also dont forget these guys arn't playing a team sport, they are making their own living, they're independant contractors playing for more money than most of us can ever dream of. Most if not all on tour bring sports psycologists, chiros , personal trainers, chiros and message therapists to work on them between rounds. Not taking away from other sports, but most sports are not nearly as stratigy demanding as golf. I remeber about 4 mos ago I was playing a good front 9 at hole by the time I was at hole 7 I was shooting even par. I recieved a phone call that really bothered me, I double and triple bogied the last 2 holes on the front 9. I could hit the ball to save my life at that point. I was told that Golf is at least 50% psycological, that round proved it!
::)
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 02, 2008, 08:58:40 PM
some neuropsychologists make 4 dollars a minute evaluating clients. 
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: elite_lifter on August 02, 2008, 09:00:39 PM
some neuropsychologists make 4 dollars a minute evaluating clients. 
isn't that what the typical getbigger makes or is that just me
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 02, 2008, 09:04:06 PM
isn't that what the typical getbigger makes or is that just me
haha  bingo
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: The Coach on August 02, 2008, 09:04:22 PM
Beats the 4.00 an hour you make "elite lifter"
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: elite_lifter on August 02, 2008, 09:07:50 PM
Beats the 4.00 an hour you make "elite lifter"
you worried about me Roach, no need, how are your 20 hour work days workin out for you ::)
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: The Coach on August 02, 2008, 09:10:43 PM
Just fine, I'm at home in Palm Springs golfing and enjoying my little vacation.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: elite_lifter on August 02, 2008, 09:11:50 PM
Just fine, I'm at home in Palm Springs golfing and enjoying my little vacation.
My life is a vacation, if you only knew  ;D
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: haider on August 02, 2008, 09:14:36 PM
When are you going on tour Coach, and I guess I won't comment on your spelling.
actually the analise part is not a typo... even though he just made up a verb.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: The Coach on August 02, 2008, 09:33:58 PM
I know my spelling sucks i dont need to be reminded. Tour?
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: jtsunami on August 02, 2008, 09:35:47 PM
have any of you guys played theses sports?  If you have you would know why.  Football and baseball are easy to play with a lot of noise, you are like a robot doing a function pretty much, not much thought.

jt
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: candidizzle on August 02, 2008, 09:42:37 PM
a poorly trained golfer needs complete silence.

if your semi decent it doesnt matter.

the reasona guy on pga tour will take his time and make it quiet is because he is playing for money, and also because most of these pro golfers are arrogant douchebags with sticks up their ass.

real competitive golf is filled with dickheads with their noses held high.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: elite_lifter on August 02, 2008, 09:46:06 PM
a poorly trained golfer needs complete silence.

if your semi decent it doesnt matter.

the reasona guy on pga tour will take his time and make it quiet is because he is playing for money, and also because most of these pro golfers are arrogant douchebags with sticks up their ass.

real competitive golf is filled with dickheads with their noses held high.
Roach is trying to fit in, it's hard being a mexican in the golf world.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: The Coach on August 02, 2008, 09:49:01 PM
Hey Candizzle, in case you havent noticed, at tour event they have people holding up "quiet" signs. Why do you think players get pissed off when they're distracted?

Also you say they are arrogant as a blanket statement. Not so, I've meet a few of the tour players from both the regular tour and Champions tour and they were really cool even took some time after they're practice round to give my boy some pointers.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: candidizzle on August 02, 2008, 09:55:20 PM
coach youve never played on a serious tour.  do thAt and youll see.  very arrogant shnobby poeople, all with their noses held high.  thats why they think its needs to be quiet. they take themselves to seriously.

a good golfer has practiced with distractions on purpouse, to make sure noises and other things dont effect them on the course.


when i was young and serious about golf my coach used to throw golf balls at me, yell druing my swing, have me hit from all kinds of fucked up lies...  it helps alot and any good golfer has procaticed that way.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: jtsunami on August 02, 2008, 10:11:09 PM
dizzle seriously lol, most ppl benefit from silence when they play golf, have you played golf and been with a bunch of roudy ppl?  How was your score?

Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: The Coach on August 02, 2008, 10:17:33 PM
Of course I've never played on tour candizzle and neither have you. But I have been to a few and seen how the player act. I'm not saying all arn't arrogant of course you will have people like that.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: candidizzle on August 02, 2008, 10:31:08 PM
um

do you know the name of the tour tiger woods got his start playng golf in ? the one he played in as a little kid?

 ;)
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: Moosejay on August 03, 2008, 03:27:55 AM
I know my spelling sucks i dont need to be reminded. Tour?

don't worry about his spelling. Many of you do that to avoid his message , which is present before us and prudent.

He could use spell check like anyone, so what matter does it make?
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: Moosejay on August 03, 2008, 03:30:34 AM
coach youve never played on a serious tour.  do thAt and youll see.  very arrogant shnobby poeople, all with their noses held high.  thats why they think its needs to be quiet. they take themselves to seriously.

a good golfer has practiced with distractions on purpouse, to make sure noises and other things dont effect them on the course.


when i was young and serious about golf my coach used to throw golf balls at me, yell druing my swing, have me hit from all kinds of fucked up lies...  it helps alot and any good golfer has procaticed that way.

When I was about 26, my friend and I went to the Greater Hartford Open.

I knew nothing about golf porotocol.

Ity was hot as hell.

I took my shirt off and started walking around.

Man. the 'volunteers ' in the red shirts went bezerk on me. "Put your shirt on, blah, blah.

I did. Rules are rules.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: webcake on August 03, 2008, 03:33:28 AM
When im on tour i need complete silence. Great golfers such as myself need the silence.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 03, 2008, 04:06:33 AM
Just fine, I'm at home in Palm Springs golfing and enjoying my little vacation.
there are some real shitty mexican neighborhoods in palm springs with lots of Roaches.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 03, 2008, 05:55:12 AM
I played professional tennis and high amateur level squash and raquetball. I also played B national division basketball here in Romania, as far as "loud" team sport are concerned.

My opinion is that tennis and golf can be played in loud noise as well.

The only problem is that you grow up playing all your matches throughout your whole life in utter silence just the game own noise. So it's difficult to change and of course you cannot concentrate. Because all your life it was a quasi noiseless environment.

But if kids would play in a noisy environment right off the bat, it'd be no problem.

I learned also for who is interested, which one is harder :  tennis or golf. The person that explained it best was Elsworth Vines, former all time great in tennis and well as top pro in golf later in his career...so basically he played both sports at the absolute highest levels, WITH success.

He stated that it's impossible to determine which is harder because although they are pretty similar games, in golf, the DIMENSIONS of the court change constantly whereas in tennis they remain constant. On the tennis difficult side he mentioned that although in golf you have all the time in the world to set up your shot, in tennis you have to constantly shift your position to get to the ball while at top speed , while your opponent is trying to FRUSTRATE you and FORCE you into making mistakes.


As a personal note I'd like to add that in tennis, there are vastly different conditions from tournament to tournament, like court surface speed, ball speed ( heavier or lighter balls ), and the CONSTANT adjustement of the equipment (shoes, strings, string tension, swing weight, etc )  to suit a particular tournament or situation.



Golf Is Different ( TIME Magazine article )


" The man who had once been the best tennis player in the world was not usually so inept at his new profession as he was last week. In the past year, he had driven his Mercury some 35,000 miles and slept in many a hotel bed too short for his 6 ft. 2 in. No tank-town tourney was too small for him; he played in 44 big & little ones, a grind that would wear out most pro golfers. By sheer persistence, he had earned $12,000 in prize money (compared to $50,000 his first season as a tennis pro). His score varied between seven under par and seven over par. Says Vines: "Tennis got too tough for me. I was beginning to age, and Don Budge helped me decide to get out of it. I can continue as a golfer for years—in tennis I was an old man."

Now 35, Vines has not touched a tennis racket for five years ("and I ain't about to"). He believes that each game has its particular swing, and one interferes with the other. Says Vines: "Golf takes less stamina, and less training. You get very tired playing tennis—but it is so fast that you have little time to think about each shot. I can forget a tennis match the minute it's over . . . but I remember a missed putt or a bad drive for hours."

Forty Pounds On. In 1937, two years before he quit tennis, California-born Ellsworth Vines took his first golf lesson. He had two handicaps from tennis: a pair of glasses, the result of eye-strain in night matches; and an overdeveloped right wrist that once stroked the most devastating forehand in tennis. By 1942, he had chopped his game from the 90s to the 70s and become golf pro at the Southern California Golf & Country Club. When he became a fulltime playing pro last year, his tee shots were usually long & straight, his irons still wobbly. But on the greens, he had a master's putting touch. "The only bad habit I've picked up in golf," says he, "is getting fat." He now weighs 195, about 40 pounds more than his tennis weight.

Several of golf's elder statesmen, including ex-Champion Gene Sarazen, have predicted that Ellsworth Vines will one day become U.S. golf champion.* In his shaky beginning last week, Vines looked as if he had some distance still to go. He finished 15 strokes behind the winner. Said he: "Somehow, there don't seem to be more than two or three good tennis players at one time . . . but golf is different. You must whip an awful lot of fellows to get on top." Some of the "awful lot" were among the 130 who teed off at Los Angeles' Riviera course. There was a top layer, of such men as icy cool Ben Hogan (TIME, Nov. 18), which would take some cracking. Last week Hogan shot four under par, won first place and $2,000. "



" Growing bored with tennis while only in his late twenties, Vines became a professional golfer and, over the years, had a number of high finishes in tournaments, including one professional victory and a semi-final position in the prestigious 1951 PGA Championship when it was a match-play tournament. "He was twice in the top ten of golf money winnings," writes Kramer, "and he was surely the best athlete ever in the two sports." He goes on to compare Vines to another great tennis player, Lew Hoad. "Both were very strong guys. Both succeeded at a very young age.... Also, both were very lazy guys. Vines lost interest in tennis (for golf) before he was thirty, and Hoad never appeared to be very interested. Despite their great natural ability, neither put up the outstanding records that they were capable of. Unfortunately, the latter was largely true because both had physical problems."

Vines was inducted into the International Tennis Hall of Fame in Newport, Rhode Island, in 1962.
Mr Vines former Wimbledon champion

(http://www.palmspringslife.com/media/Palm-Springs-Life/August-2004/The-Greatest-Athlete-of-All-Time/palm-springs-life0804greate.jpg)(http://www.topfoto.co.uk/gallery/WimbledonMen/images/prevs/1078454.jpg)

Henry Ellsworth Vines, Jr. (September 28, 1911 – March 17, 1994) was an American tennis champion of the 1930s, the World No. 1 player or the co-No. 1 for four years in 1932, 1935, 1936 and 1937.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 03, 2008, 06:11:25 AM
(http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/12/21/drapertennisgolf.jpg)

Scott Draper

(http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/05/23/wbTENNISdraper_narrowweb__200x270.jpg)(http://www.iseekgolf.com/mediadata/16068.jpg)



Scott Draper - Biography

Professional golfer/tennis player

Scott Draper has achieved success in two competitive sports making him one of the rarest categories of athletes, but flexing his vocal cords is an entirely different challenge.

Luckily the professional sportsman does not shy from stepping outside his comfort zone.

�If I had the choice of being a professional golfer or being able to sing in front of an audience, I�d pick the latter. Music has the ability to touch you, to give you goosebumps. I love a challenge and am excited about trying something that I am passionate about.� says Scott.

Beginning his tennis career in 1993, Scott won over 120 professional matches during an impressive 12-year career. A Wimbledon junior champion, he achieved a singles career high ranking of 42 on the ATP tour, was a three-time member of the Australian Davis Cup Team and won a career ATP singles title in the 1998 Queen�s Club Championship. Scott also won the Australian Open Mixed Doubles with Samantha Stosur in his final year in 2005.

Draper made a brief return to the tennis circuit when he coached Lleyton Hewitt at the 2007 Australian Open but turned down the chance to work with the former No 1 and the security of coaching, deciding his future lay not on the tennis court but in playing on the professional golf circuit.

An all round sportsman, Scott took to golf to escape his grief after his first wife, Kellie, died of cystic fibrosis nine years ago. He took the skills and mental abilities of one sport and put them to good use in another. During his two years on the Australasian Tour he placed 4th in 2006 NSW PGA Championship, qualified for the 2006 Nationwide Xerox Classic placing 66 in his first ever US event and successfully gained a 2007 Australasian PGA Tour card.

In February 2007 he proved he could cut it in another sport when he won the New South Wales PGA Championships, giving him his first professional title.

Last year, Draper turned his talents to a completely different medium � writing. He has just released his first book, Too Good: The Scott Draper Story; a story of determination, grief and ultimately inspiration.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: Moosejay on August 03, 2008, 07:32:34 AM
I know Tiger seems to get the most pissed with noise. My father has said he actually has thrown/broken clubs.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: candidizzle on August 03, 2008, 07:33:47 AM
I know Tiger seems to get the most pissed with noise. My father has said he actually has thrown/broken clubs.
playing golf with tiger would not be as enjoyable as most think it would be. most good golfers are not much for companionship on the golf course.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: alejandro_torres on August 03, 2008, 07:36:42 AM
yeah... your companion is your caddy... not the other golfer
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: Moosejay on August 03, 2008, 07:54:34 AM
playing golf with tiger would not be as enjoyable as most think it would be. most good golfers are not much for companionship on the golf course.

I would think he'd condescend
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: elite_lifter on August 03, 2008, 08:41:33 AM
When I was about 26, my friend and I went to the Greater Hartford Open.

I knew nothing about golf porotocol.

Ity was hot as hell.

I took my shirt off and started walking around.

Man. the 'volunteers ' in the red shirts went bezerk on me. "Put your shirt on, blah, blah.

I did. Rules are rules.
Was probably the start of your Melanoma. ;D
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: kh300 on August 03, 2008, 08:52:52 AM
....why is it (not joking, Joe) that golphers (and even tennis) needs COMPLETE silence?

You know, the hardest thing to do is hit a round ball with a round bat (baseball), and those guys got incredibly high noise and hooting and hollering to put up with.

If the baseballers can do it, why not the other aformentioned?

Mike

imagine derek jeter turning to the crowd and saying "can you people shut the fuck up!! this guys throwing a ball at my head at 100 mph"
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: Moosejay on August 03, 2008, 11:40:38 AM
Was probably the start of your Melanoma. ;D

Could have been
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: Moosejay on August 03, 2008, 11:41:50 AM
imagine derek jeter turning to the crowd and saying "can you people shut the fuck up!! this guys throwing a ball at my head at 100 mph"

No. He chills in hbis personal helicopter after games, flies over long island sound to his shoreline home in Madison, CT, about 20 miles from me.

Neighbors with Coach Jim Calhoun of CT.

He is too chgill to care.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: The Coach on August 03, 2008, 08:52:43 PM
True bigdumbell, but not in a gated community on a golf course.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: elite_lifter on August 03, 2008, 09:01:16 PM
True bigdumbell, but not in a gated community on a golf course.
get lost clown
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: The Coach on August 03, 2008, 09:04:49 PM
F**k off loser. Less than a week and counting.
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: elite_lifter on August 03, 2008, 09:10:18 PM
F**k off loser. Less than a week and counting.
Someone in your head ;D
Title: Re: Question best for the Coach
Post by: JohnnyVegas on August 03, 2008, 09:50:25 PM
F**k off loser. Less than a week and counting.

Is Elite Dork getting banned????