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Title: Moral politics test.
Post by: Purple Aki on August 10, 2008, 03:17:44 AM
http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Home (http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Home)

It turns out I'm a filthy pinko. >:(

YOUR SCORE

Your scored -3 on Moral Order and 1.5 on Moral Rules.



The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Socialism
Ideology: Social Democratism
Party: No match.
Presidents: Jimmy Carter
04' Election: David Cobb
08' Election: Barack Obama



Of the 464,582 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

8% are close to you.
54% are more conservative.
10% are more liberal.
13% are more socialist.
15% are more authoritarian.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 10, 2008, 03:28:29 AM
So, you're a commie bastard?

YOUR SCORE

Your scored 1.5 on Moral Order and -4 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

   1. System: Conservatism
   2. Ideology: Capital Republicanism
   3. Party: Republican Party
   4. Presidents: Richard Nixon
   5. 04' Election: George W. Bush
   6. 08' Election: John McCain



Of the 464,585 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

   1. 3% are close to you.
   2. 8% are more conservative.
   3. 11% are more liberal.
   4. 63% are more socialist.
   5. 12% are more authoritarian.

Next Steps

   1. Take over the world.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Purple Aki on August 10, 2008, 03:36:13 AM
I'm fed up with your racist attacks against me!

http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Home (http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Home)

System: Socialism
Ideology: Social Democratism
Party: No match.
Presidents: Jimmy Carter
04' Election: David Cobb
08' Election: Barack Obama

Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 10, 2008, 03:38:21 AM
At least you're not a member of Greenpeace, those animal rapists are worse than commies and day of the week.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: gcb on August 10, 2008, 04:01:30 AM
Here are my stats comrades:

GCB1000'S SCORE

Your scored -6 on Moral Order and 3 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

   1. System: Socialism
   2. Ideology: Activism
   3. Party: No match.
   4. Presidents: Jimmy Carter
   5. 04' Election: David Cobb
   6. 08' Election: Dennis Kucinich



Of the 464,589 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

   1. 5% are close to you.
   2. 75% are more conservative.
   3. 1% are more liberal.
   4. 1% are more socialist.
   5. 11% are more authoritarian.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on August 10, 2008, 04:21:14 AM
RONPAULFAN'S SCORE

Your scored 3 on Moral Order and -7.5 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

   1. System: Conservatism
   2. Ideology: Ultra Capitalism
   3. Party: No match.
   4. Presidents: Ronald Reagan
   5. 04' Election: George W. Bush (lol not)
   6. 08' Election: Ron Paul



Of the 464,590 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

   1. 1% are close to you.
   2. 0% are more conservative.
   3. 1% are more liberal.
   4. 85% are more socialist.
   5. 11% are more authoritarian.

Next Steps

   1. What does this mean?
      Start with Political Systems.
   2. Take our quick survey.
   3. Tell your Facebook friends.
   4. See the overall distribution.

   
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: w8tlftr on August 10, 2008, 04:50:42 AM
I've never heard of Michael Badnarik.  :-\

your scored -0.5 on Moral Order and -6.5 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

   1. System: Liberalism
   2. Ideology: Progressive NeoLiberalism
   3. Party: No match.
   4. Presidents: Ronald Reagan
   5. 04' Election: Michael Badnarik
   6. 08' Election: Ron Paul

Of the 464,597 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

   1. 2% are close to you.
   2. 3% are more conservative.
   3. 1% are more liberal.
   4. 58% are more socialist.
   5. 37% are more authoritarian.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Fury on August 10, 2008, 06:01:37 AM
YOUR SCORE

Your scored -0.5 on Moral Order and -5 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

   1. System: Liberalism
   2. Ideology: Capital Democratism, Progressive NeoLiberalism
   3. Party: Democratic Party
   4. Presidents: Richard Nixon
   5. 04' Election: Michael Badnarik
   6. 08' Election: Rudy Giuliani



Of the 464,605 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

   1. 4% are close to you.
   2. 9% are more conservative.
   3. 6% are more liberal.
   4. 52% are more socialist.
   5. 28% are more authoritarian.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Slapper on August 10, 2008, 09:21:51 AM
Your scored -4 on Moral Order and 5.5 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Socialism
Ideology: International Socialism
Party: No match.
Presidents: Jimmy Carter
04' Election: David Cobb
08' Election: Dennis Kucinich

Of the 464,630 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

2% are close to you.
73% are more conservative.
13% are more liberal.
3% are more socialist.
4% are more authoritarian.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Butterbean on August 10, 2008, 09:41:14 AM
Your scored 1.5 on Moral Order and -3 on Moral Rules.



The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Conservatism
Ideology: Capital Republicanism
Party: Republican Party
Presidents: Gerald Ford
04' Election: George W. Bush
08' Election: Rudy Giuliani



Of the 464,635 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

4% are close to you.
10% are more conservative.
14% are more liberal.
60% are more socialist.
11% are more authoritarian.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: George Whorewell on August 10, 2008, 09:53:04 AM
Well, as it seems this thing was pretty accurate--> Its not that I hate liberals, I hate socialists: LONG LIVE THE LIBERTARIAN 

GEORGIE PORGIE'S SCORE

Your scored 1.5 on Moral Order and -5.5 on Moral Rules.



The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Conservatism
Ideology: Conservative NeoLiberalism
Party: Republican Party
Presidents: Ronald Reagan
04' Election: George W. Bush
08' Election: John McCain



Of the 464,636 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

3% are close to you.
6% are more conservative.
8% are more liberal.
69% are more socialist.
16% are more authoritarian.
Next Steps

What does this mean?
Start with Political Systems.
Take our quick survey.
Tell your Facebook friends.
See the overall distribution.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Dos Equis on August 10, 2008, 10:34:15 AM
YOUR SCORE

Your scored 2.5 on Moral Order and -3.5 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Conservatism
Ideology: Capital Republicanism
Party: Republican Party
Presidents: Richard Nixon
04' Election: George W. Bush
08' Election: John McCain, Mitt Romney



Of the 464,643 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

2% are close to you.
7% are more conservative.
17% are more liberal.
68% are more socialist.
7% are more authoritarian.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: OzmO on August 10, 2008, 10:47:14 AM
YOUR SCORE
Your scored 1.5 on Moral Order and -2 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):
System: Conservatism
Ideology: Capital Republicanism
Party: Republican Party
Presidents: Gerald Ford
04' Election: John Kerry
08' Election: Rudy Giuliani


Of the 464,646 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):
4% are close to you.
12% are more conservative.
18% are more liberal.
49% are more socialist.
8% are more authoritarian.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Dos Equis on August 10, 2008, 11:04:27 AM
YOUR SCORE
Your scored 1.5 on Moral Order and -2 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):
System: Conservatism
Ideology: Capital Republicanism
Party: Republican Party
Presidents: Gerald Ford
04' Election: John Kerry
08' Election: Rudy Giuliani


Of the 464,646 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):
4% are close to you.
12% are more conservative.
18% are more liberal.
49% are more socialist.
8% are more authoritarian.


I always knew you were a closet conservative.   :D
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: OzmO on August 10, 2008, 11:29:27 AM
I always knew you were a closet conservative.   :D

It depends on the day.    ;D
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: MB_722 on August 10, 2008, 11:45:20 AM
YOUR SCORE

Your scored -1 on Moral Order and -1.5 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

   1. System: Liberalism
   2. Ideology: Capital Democratism
   3. Party: Democratic Party
   4. Presidents: Gerald Ford, John F Kennedy
   5. 04' Election: John Kerry
   6. 08' Election: Rudy Giuliani



Of the 464,655 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

   1. 11% are close to you.
   2. 24% are more conservative.
   3. 16% are more liberal.
   4. 35% are more socialist.
   5. 17% are more authoritaria
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: w8tlftr on August 10, 2008, 01:18:26 PM
Well, as it seems this thing was pretty accurate--> Its not that I hate liberals, I hate socialists: LONG LIVE THE LIBERTARIAN 

GEORGIE PORGIE'S SCORE

Your scored 1.5 on Moral Order and -5.5 on Moral Rules.



The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Conservatism
Ideology: Conservative NeoLiberalism
Party: Republican Party
Presidents: Ronald Reagan
04' Election: George W. Bush
08' Election: John McCain



Of the 464,636 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

3% are close to you.
6% are more conservative.
8% are more liberal.
69% are more socialist.
16% are more authoritarian.
Next Steps

What does this mean?
Start with Political Systems.
Take our quick survey.
Tell your Facebook friends.
See the overall distribution.


Today's Libertarians are what Republicans USED to be.

No surprise who the socialists are but I'm surprised by Stella and Oz's score. I figured you two for live-and-let-live liberals (the good kind).




Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 24KT on August 10, 2008, 01:49:14 PM
The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):
YOUR SCORE

Your scored -4 on Moral Order and 0.5 on Moral Rules.


System: Socialism
Ideology: Social Democratism
Party: Democratic Party
Presidents: Jimmy Carter
04' Election: Ralph Nader
08' Election: Barack Obama


Of the 464,681 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

6% are close to you.
54% are more conservative.
5% are more liberal.
11% are more socialist.
23% are more authoritarian.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 24KT on August 10, 2008, 01:59:51 PM
More Stats

TEST DISTRIBUTION

Of the 464,682 respondents:

29.93% liked Socialism.
6.46% liked Authoritarianism.
20.17% liked Conservatism.
23.64% liked Liberalism.
19.80% straddled systems.


TEST DISTRIBUTION FOR UNITED STATES

Of the 266,039 respondents:

26.73% liked Socialism.
6.03% liked Authoritarianism.
22.01% liked Conservatism.
24.89% liked Liberalism.
20.34% straddled systems.


United States best matches:

System: Liberalism
Variation: Moderate Liberalism
Ideology: Capital Democratism
 

Average score (red marker):

Moral Order: -0.10
Moral Rules: -0.10


Looks like it will be President Obama in November!  :D


TEST DISTRIBUTION FOR CANADA

Of the 25,658 respondents:

33.35% liked Socialism.
6.44% liked Authoritarianism.
17.31% liked Conservatism.
21.94% liked Liberalism.
20.95% straddled systems.


Canada best matches:

System: Liberalism
Variation: Moderate Liberalism
Ideology: Capital Democratism
 

Average score (red marker):

Moral Order: -0.18
Moral Rules: -0.01
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 10, 2008, 03:22:10 PM
You scored -1,000,000,000 on the Morality Scale.

You are qualified to be Vice President of the United States.


???
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: w8tlftr on August 10, 2008, 03:44:37 PM
More Stats

TEST DISTRIBUTION

Of the 464,682 respondents:

29.93% liked Socialism.
6.46% liked Authoritarianism.
20.17% liked Conservatism.
23.64% liked Liberalism.
19.80% straddled systems.


TEST DISTRIBUTION FOR UNITED STATES

Of the 266,039 respondents:

26.73% liked Socialism.
6.03% liked Authoritarianism.
22.01% liked Conservatism.
24.89% liked Liberalism.
20.34% straddled systems.


United States best matches:

System: Liberalism
Variation: Moderate Liberalism
Ideology: Capital Democratism
 

Average score (red marker):

Moral Order: -0.10
Moral Rules: -0.10


Looks like it will be President Obama in November!  :D


TEST DISTRIBUTION FOR CANADA

Of the 25,658 respondents:

33.35% liked Socialism.
6.44% liked Authoritarianism.
17.31% liked Conservatism.
21.94% liked Liberalism.
20.95% straddled systems.


Canada best matches:

System: Liberalism
Variation: Moderate Liberalism
Ideology: Capital Democratism
 

Average score (red marker):

Moral Order: -0.18
Moral Rules: -0.01


Wow, Judi, you got all that from a sample of 266,039 respondents. How many are of voting age or even vote?

Liberalism is a GOOD thing. It means you can be  socially conservative or  socially liberal but you believe that life-style choices are a personal matter and the government can butt the frak out. Socialism on the other hand is the opposite of "liberalism" since it involves a government body to decide what is best for you vs. you making that choice for yourself. Yay smiley face fascism.

I'll be surprised if Barrack loses to McCain in the American Idol version of the 2008 Presidential election.

Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on August 10, 2008, 04:28:54 PM
CAPITAL REPUBLICANISM

Capital Republicanism is a moderate form of Conservatism.

Capital Republicans are in favor of a Capitalist market economy and a strong moral order (abortion-control, tradional family values, strong military,...).

There is much debate over how to define Capitalism. Some proponents of capitalism emphasize the role of (presumably efficient) free markets, which, they claim, promote freedom and democracy. For many, capitalism hinges on the elaboration of an economic system in which goods and services are traded in markets, and capital goods belong to non-state entities [Independence], onto a global scale. For others, it is defined by the creation of a labor market in which most people had to sell their labor-power in order to survive.





YOUR SCORE

Your scored 1.5 on Moral Order and -4.5 on Moral Rules.



The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Conservatism
Ideology: Capital Republicanism
Party: Republican Party
Presidents: Richard Nixon
04' Election: George W. Bush
08' Election: John McCain



Of the 464,718 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

3% are close to you.
8% are more conservative.
11% are more liberal.
66% are more socialist.
14% are more authoritarian.
Next Steps




Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 24KT on August 10, 2008, 04:31:32 PM

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Conservatism
Ideology: Capital Republicanism
Party: Republican Party
Presidents: Richard Nixon
04' Election: George W. Bush
08' Election: John McCain

Well I'm glad you're choosing not to vote in November.  :-\
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 10, 2008, 04:34:12 PM
Well I'm glad you're choosing not to vote in November.  :-\

Very democratic of you ::) scum
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Purge_WTF on August 10, 2008, 04:34:29 PM
  My results:

  System: Conservatism
  Ideology: Conservative NeoLiberalism
  Party: Republican Party
  Presidents: George W. Bush (Hell no.)
  04' Election: George W. Bush (Again--hell no.)
  08' Election: Fred Thompson (Ron Paul, actually.)
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on August 10, 2008, 05:39:26 PM
Well I'm glad you're choosing not to vote in November.  :-\

actually i love obama judes...but i'm voting mccain...

cause i will be soon falling under the tax bracket he plants to tax heavily

i did not work my ass off for 5 yrs to get taxed on it..plus i have a girlfriend that is really sick...medical bills pile up..

i'm thinking with my wallet not my heart
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on August 10, 2008, 05:40:15 PM
Very democratic of you ::) scum


very democratic of you...scum  :-\

 ;)

fucking idiot


judes and i were friends before your fat ass joined getbig...she is alowed liberties with me low class scum like u is NOT
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 24KT on August 10, 2008, 06:54:51 PM
actually i love obama judes...but i'm voting mccain...

cause i will be soon falling under the tax bracket he plants to tax heavily

i did not work my ass off for 5 yrs to get taxed on it..plus i have a girlfriend that is really sick...medical bills pile up..

i'm thinking with my wallet not my heart

Well maybe you could go back to thinking with 'francis', ...then you'd be too preoccupied to vote.  :D
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2008, 04:46:37 AM
very democratic of you...scum  :-\

 ;)

fucking idiot

judes and i were friends before your fat ass joined getbig...she is alowed liberties with me low class scum like u is NOT

I'm not fat, but I am very impressed that you were friends with Judas long before I joined Getbig.

Your greed and stupidity is summed up by your second to last post. Pathetic, a man with a big mouth and ego and absolutely no morality. I guess that's why you protect your prophets molestation of a 9 year old girl :-\
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on August 11, 2008, 05:35:58 AM
I'm not fat,.



you start with a lie..so i did not bother reading the rest


give me proof u r not fat ya fatfuck
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on August 11, 2008, 05:37:37 AM
Well maybe you could go back to thinking with 'francis', ...then you'd be too preoccupied to vote.  :D

you're a tart!  :-*
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2008, 07:08:11 AM
you start with a lie..so i did not bother reading the rest


give me proof u r not fat ya fatfuck

Erm OK whatever ???

Do you have proof your penis isn't 0.5 inches on full erection? ???
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on August 11, 2008, 07:34:26 AM


Do you have proof your penis isn't 0.5 inches on full erection? ???

why are you thinking about my penis fag?
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2008, 07:49:06 AM
why are you thinking about my penis fag?

What's a "penis fag"?

I wasn't thinking about it, I heard a rumour from your encounter with Judas that you have a very, very small penis.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on August 11, 2008, 11:46:43 AM
What's a "penis fag"?

I wasn't thinking about it, I heard a rumour from your encounter with Judas that you have a very, very small penis.

you got cock on your mind and now u r trying to  back paddle

fucking pathetic
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2008, 12:16:05 PM
you got cock on your mind and now u r trying to  back paddle

fucking pathetic

"Back peddle"? From what, the ramblings of a crack head? ???
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 24KT on August 11, 2008, 01:45:45 PM
you're a tart!  :-*

 :o   {slap}
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on August 11, 2008, 02:51:24 PM
"Back peddle"? From what, the ramblings of a crack head? ???

quite the come back there genius...

i'm floored
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on August 11, 2008, 02:54:24 PM
:o   {slap}

do it again!

....do it again! ;D
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 24KT on August 11, 2008, 03:09:08 PM
do it again!

....do it again! ;D

{SLAP!}  {SLAP!}  :P
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: youandme on August 11, 2008, 03:15:50 PM
YOUR SCORE

Your scored 6.5 on Moral Order and -6 on Moral Rules.



The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Conservatism
Ideology: Conservative NeoLiberalism
Party: Republican Party, Constitution Party
Presidents: George W. Bush
04' Election: Michael Peroutka
08' Election: Fred Thompson



Of the 464,998 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

2% are close to you.
0% are more conservative.
4% are more liberal.
84% are more socialist.
1% are more authoritarian.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: headhuntersix on August 11, 2008, 03:16:09 PM
YOUR SCORE

Your scored 4.5 on Moral Order and -6.5 on Moral Rules.



The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Conservatism
Ideology: Conservative NeoLiberalism
Party: Republican Party
Presidents: George W. Bush
04' Election: George W. Bush
08' Election: Fred Thompson



Of the 464,999 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

1% are close to you.
1% are more conservative.
3% are more liberal.
88% are more socialist.
7% are more authoritarian
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on August 11, 2008, 04:11:05 PM
{SLAP!}  {SLAP!}  :P


ooooo..mufasaaaa!  :D
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Butterbean on August 12, 2008, 10:24:13 AM
Today's Libertarians are what Republicans USED to be.

No surprise who the socialists are but I'm surprised by Stella and Oz's score. I figured you two for live-and-let-live liberals (the good kind).






I was surprised Ozmo's was so close to mine (I thought he'd be much more liberal) but I wonder if you're automatically scored as much more conservative if you indicated you believe in God (as I know Ozmo does)......  I took the test pretty quickly but it seems like a lot of the time I picked "none of the above" for the answer.

As for live and let live...I think I'm more moderate on certain social issues than many conservatives but I tend to have somewhat of a strong belief in personal responsibility which may tend to make me score more conservatively.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 24KT on August 12, 2008, 10:29:21 AM
I was surprised Ozmo's was so close to mine (I thought he'd be much more liberal) but I wonder if you're automatically scored as much more conservative if you indicated you believe in God (as I know Ozmo does)......  I took the test pretty quickly but it seems like a lot of the time I picked "none of the above" for the answer.

As for live and let live...I think I'm more moderate on certain social issues than many conservatives but I tend to have somewhat of a strong belief in personal responsibility which may tend to make me score more conservatively.

I don't think a strong belief in personal responsibility skews your score towards conservative. It did nothing for me.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Butterbean on August 12, 2008, 10:37:13 AM
(I thought he'd be much more liberal)

Oh wait!  I just saw John Kerry in 04 ;D




I don't think a strong belief in personal responsibility skews your score towards conservative. It did nothing for me.

I don't know about it regarding this specific test but don't you feel like a strong belief in personal responsibility results in one being seen as more conservative....at least regarding some general party issues?
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 24KT on August 12, 2008, 10:49:26 AM

I don't know about it regarding this specific test but don't you feel like a strong belief in personal responsibility results in one being seen as more conservative....at least regarding some general party issues?

One would think, ...but when a nation shifts so far to the right, even moderate conservative values are seen as LEFTIST
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Dos Equis on August 12, 2008, 11:29:40 AM
Oh wait!  I just saw John Kerry in 04 ;D




I don't know about it regarding this specific test but don't you feel like a strong belief in personal responsibility results in one being seen as more conservative....at least regarding some general party issues?

True.  Today's liberals believe in more government involvement to level the playing field. 
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Purple Aki on August 12, 2008, 12:36:57 PM
The fact that I scored the same as Jag is a little worrying (no offence, jag). I've always considered myself a conservative, not a bleeding heart socialist.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 12, 2008, 12:44:56 PM
The fact that I scored the same as Jag is a little worrying (no offence, jag). I've always considered myself a conservative, not a bleeding heart socialist.

A conservative that gives 15% of his wage in Labour donations... hmm... something just isn't adding up here...
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Purple Aki on August 12, 2008, 12:53:46 PM
I wish I had 15% to spare! I haven't worked for three years, and the wage I'm about to get in Sept will barely cover beer etc.

Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 12, 2008, 12:55:03 PM
I wish I had 15% to spare! I haven't worked for three years, and the wage I'm about to get in Sept will barely cover beer etc.

lol, priorities 8) ;D
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: shootfighter1 on August 12, 2008, 01:16:15 PM
Your scored 1 on Moral Order and -2 on Moral Rules.



The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Conservatism
Ideology: Capital Republicanism
Party: Republican Party
Presidents: Gerald Ford
04' Election: John Kerry
08' Election: Rudy Giuliani



Of the 465,211 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

8% are close to you.
12% are more conservative.
16% are more liberal.
47% are more socialist.
8% are more authoritarian.


I guess this says I am a moderate/conservative.  The other survey I took said I was a libertarian.  Must be a lot of intertest variability.
John Kerry!  Wow.  Maybe I should have listened.

Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: shootfighter1 on August 12, 2008, 01:31:18 PM
In this test a liberal is defined very differently than a socialist.  I just don't get socialism.

Ozmo and Stella you guys were almost identical to me on the results...funny, Oz, you and I have disagreed on a couple things.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: Butterbean on August 12, 2008, 02:00:56 PM
One would think, ...but when a nation shifts so far to the right, even moderate conservative values are seen as LEFTIST
Are you saying you feel America has shifted further to the right on social issues? 
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: w8tlftr on August 12, 2008, 02:01:51 PM
One would think, ...but when a nation shifts so far to the right, even moderate conservative values are seen as LEFTIST

America is still very much a centrist nation.

I think the Democratic party has moved very much to the left lately.

I also think the Republican party has moved very much to the right which is why I'm no longer a registered Republican.

Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 24KT on August 12, 2008, 03:07:41 PM
The fact that I scored the same as Jag is a little worrying (no offence, jag). I've always considered myself a conservative, not a bleeding heart socialist.

Hahaha, you and me both. But when things are so far skewed to the right, ...anyone can be tagged as a leftist.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 24KT on August 12, 2008, 03:13:18 PM
Are you saying you feel America has shifted further to the right on social issues? 


On EVERY issue.

Those who are setting policy (PNAC) for the USA, both foreign & domestic, were at one point considered extreme right wing lunatics.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 24KT on August 12, 2008, 03:16:43 PM
America is still very much a centrist nation.

I think the Democratic party has moved very much to the left lately.

I also think the Republican party has moved very much to the right which is why I'm no longer a registered Republican.


Analysts are saying you represent the most interesting phenomena of this election cycle. While the Democrats have maintained, ...possibly even expanded their base, ...there is a huge infact inordinate amount of independents who are disillusioned with the Republican party. Depending on where this group swings to will have a huge impact on the election results.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: w8tlftr on August 12, 2008, 03:25:09 PM
Analysts are saying you represent the most interesting phenomena of this election cycle. While the Democrats have maintained, ...possibly even expanded their base, ...there is a huge infact inordinate amount of independents who are disillusioned with the Republican party. Depending on where this group swings to will have a huge impact on the election results.

I agree with you about the Republican party. They've lost their way. I think this is why Ron Paul is so popular with former Republicans.

However, I know of a lot of Democrats that are very unhappy with their party too (the war, gay marriage, abortion, etc.).
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 24KT on August 12, 2008, 03:28:46 PM
I agree with you about the Republican party. They've lost their way. I think this is why Ron Paul is so popular with former Republicans.

However, I know of a lot of Democrats that are very unhappy with their party too (the war, gay marriage, abortion, etc.).

True, ...however, for most voters their priorities are

...areas which the Republicans have failed miserably
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: w8tlftr on August 12, 2008, 03:35:19 PM
True, ...however, for most voters their priorities are
  • ending the war
  • the economy
  • the price of fuel, etc., etc

...areas which the Republicans have failed miserably

Let's be fair, Judi.

The Democrats (who control the House and Senate) failed to stop the war also.

They also share the blame for the economy and have as much control over the price of oil as President Bush does.

It would seem to me (just my opinion here) that if the American government was serious about the price of oil (and our dependence on foreign oil) we'd be drilling in Colorado. We are, after all, sitting on the world's largest oil reserve.

I do agree with you though. Most Americans vote with their pocket books and their loyalty is to themselves and their family.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 24KT on August 12, 2008, 03:42:52 PM
Let's be fair, Judi.

The Democrats (who control the House and Senate) failed to stop the war also.

Yes, let us be fair. Democratic control over congress was a recent occurrence, by which time, this admin was already well into the doodoo.

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They also share the blame for the economy and have as much control over the price of oil as President Bush does.

how so? It was bush and his rubber stamp that brought this entire mess about.
...and it was the puppet (through his puppetmasters in the oil companies) that are responsible for this.

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It would seem to me (just my opinion here) that if the American government was serious about the price of oil (and our dependence on foreign oil) we'd be drilling in Colorado. We are, after all, sitting on the world's largest oil reserve.

If the American gov was serious about the price of oil and Americas dependence on foreign oil, it would have required the oil companies to drill on the leases they currently have, they would have required them to open more refineries, and they would have embarked on an energy policy designed to wean Ameriica off foreign oil. They have not done so.

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I do agree with you though. Most Americans vote with their pocket books and their loyalty is to themselves and their family.

I agree. As a whole, ...you're a very selfish lot.  :P    ;)
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: w8tlftr on August 12, 2008, 03:51:55 PM
Yes, let us be fair. Democratic control over congress was a recent occurrence, by which time, this admin was already well into the doodoo.

The were elected on their assurances to the American public to bring the troops home. Still hasn't happened. Instead they let Bush bitch slap them around.

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how so? It was bush and his rubber stamp that brought this entire mess about.
...and it was the puppet (through his puppetmasters in the oil companies) that are responsible for this.

IMO, both parties are responsible for run away spending, letting the war drag on, over taxation, subsidies, etc.

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If the American gov was serious about the price of oil and Americas dependence on foreign oil, it would have required the oil companies to drill on the leases they currently have, they would have required them to open more refineries, and they would have embarked on an energy policy designed to wean Ameriica off foreign oil. They have not done so.

No they haven't. No refineries have been built in over 30 years! Why is that? Why haven't any of the Presidents (past and present) invested heavily in alternative energy? Nuke, solar, fvckings hamsters on a wheel, whatever!

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I agree. As a whole, ...you're a very selfish lot.  :P    ;)

Americans are some of the most charitable people on this planet... but.... a man can't be charitable if he has nothing to give.



Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: 24KT on August 12, 2008, 04:04:40 PM


No they haven't. No refineries have been built in over 30 years! Why is that? Why haven't any of the Presidents (past and present) invested heavily in alternative energy? Nuke, solar, fvckings hamsters on a wheel, whatever!

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/rotflmao.gif)

I'm LMAO just picturing the hamsters on a wheel.

Let's see who has been in office for the past 30 years.

We had Reagan, actually Bush snr since Reagan had alzheimers  (Republican)
Bush Snr (Republican)
Clinton (Democrat)
bush jr (Neocon puppet)
bush jr (Neocon puppet)

With the exception of Bill Clinton whose presidency saw a huge upswing in the economy, and unprecedented prosperity across all socioeconomic stratas, it's been nothing but Republicans and neocons.   

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Americans are some of the most charitable people on this planet... but.... a man can't be charitable if he has nothing to give.

Vote for mccain and you'll see more of the same and have even less for yourself, ...let alone to give.

Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: shootfighter1 on August 13, 2008, 01:11:27 PM
for most voters their priorities are:
ending the war
the economy
the price of fuel, etc., etc
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Absolutely, for me too.  Both parties have failed on 2 of the 3.  Our government has failed on the economy, spending, immigration, etc.  The war should have never been started but now we're left with what to do...I suppose things are better and progressing.  Nevertheless, big mistake IMO.

I am also a former moderate republican who is now a registered independent because I don't like the direction of the modern republican party.  Voted for Ron Paul.

Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: shootfighter1 on August 13, 2008, 01:17:44 PM
Judi, its probably different in canada but we have a lot of lazy Americans and work ethic is getting worse overall, particularly for the generation coming up...very selfish and lazy.  Thats why I don't understand, nor do I want, more socialist programs.  I have been brought up to work hard and sarcrifice for what I want for myself and those around me.  Happiness is not $...happiness is pride, honor, respect, love of self and others you care about, doing real good for others, creating opportunities for people that want them and occasional rewards shared with family (vacations, house, whatever)... but I'm also against blanket entitlements and supporting lazy attitudes and poor work ethics, which is what socialism will do in a diverse society like the US.

I am all for reasonable programs that help the sick, the elderly and those with medical misfortunes...I've just seen so much abuse in my years in medicine that I can't support more of those inept programs.  I also don't trust the government to do whats best.  The best organizations I have been with are small, ran by family & friends.  Big business, big government, big organizations are nearly always bad in my experience.  I believe strongly in personal freedom.
Title: Re: Moral politics test.
Post by: shootfighter1 on August 13, 2008, 01:19:10 PM
Congress is still the holdup with domestic drilling, no longer the president.  Some of the democrats in congress are still resisting.

I miss the days of Clinton...a moderate democrat!