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Title: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 13, 2008, 07:25:01 PM
Recent pics of the former Masters champion depicts someone who is consuming more than protein shakes and tuna.

Could Chick still be juicing?  Surely not!

What would his motivation be anyway? 

I just thought that by now he would have gotten all that desire to be big and intimidating out of his system. Surely Chick understands by now, that the general public are repulsed by the sight of a middle aged guy wearing tight t-shirts and flaring their lats.

My point is; doesn't it grow tiresome  having to fend off questions related to steroids. 

Wouldn't it be easier just to happy being in your 'natural' skin?
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: Disgusted on August 13, 2008, 07:30:22 PM

My point is; doesn't it grow tiresome  having to fend off questions related to steroids. 


Not if you would STFU. THen he wouldn't have to "fend"  ::) off those stupid questions.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: Chick on August 13, 2008, 07:30:53 PM
This IS natural....you should see me when im loaded up!!

30 years of training does have it's advantages, as does building a natural base for 8 years.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: alejandro_torres on August 13, 2008, 07:35:52 PM
This IS natural....you should see me when im loaded up!!

30 years of training does have it's advantages, as does building a natural base for 8 years.

shawn is just jealous cause he is chubby right now!!!
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: TacoBell on August 13, 2008, 07:37:21 PM
Gotta agree with Chick... you're underestimating the power of a whole life spent lifting.... juice or not.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 13, 2008, 07:38:12 PM
The recent pics raise many questions.  I suppose it is possible to rationalize anything! 
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: alejandro_torres on August 13, 2008, 07:39:34 PM
The recent pics raise many questions.  I suppose it is possible to rationalize anything! 

yeah shawna

you are fatttttttttttttttttttttt ttttttt and chick is in shape

you are just jealous...







































 :P
 :P
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: TacoBell on August 13, 2008, 07:39:43 PM
The recent pics raise many questions.  I suppose it is possible to rationalize anything! 

What would you expect someone who's been lifting 30 years to look like?
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: Tamer Razor on August 13, 2008, 07:44:25 PM
The recent pics raise many questions.  I suppose it is possible to rationalize anything! 

It is extremely hard for you to understand. Working out and using proper nutrition...you should try.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: slayer on August 13, 2008, 07:44:57 PM
maybe chick considers hrt natural or gear is just a natural part of his life....
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: monstercalves on August 13, 2008, 07:45:14 PM
Recent pics of the former Masters champion depicts someone who is consuming more than protein shakes and tuna.

Could Chick still be juicing?  Surely not!

What would his motivation be anyway? 

I just thought that by now he would have gotten all that desire to be big and intimidating out of his system. Surely Chick understands by now, that the general public are repulsed by the sight of a middle aged guy wearing tight t-shirts and flaring their lats.

My point is; doesn't it grow tiresome  having to fend off questions related to steroids. 

Wouldn't it be easier just to happy being in your 'natural' skin?

if i look as good as bob does in his most recent pics when im over 40 ... i will be one happy mofo

how can his look repulse anyone.... izat not extremely fat people that cant walk properly and extremely skinny people(anorexia) that maybe have hygene issues..... or people with hygenee issiess in general?

most people over 40 would pay and are paying to look as good as bob...and they still wont come close


post ur pic and age and height and weight.....

why in the world at this moment in time will u not post a pic and settle all of this ?
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 13, 2008, 07:45:14 PM
This sport is built upon lies and just blatant deception.

The term steroid user is very 'emotive'.  

Maybe to 'soften the blow' the term 'user of hormone replacement' would suffice!

Either way, a drug user is a drug user.

Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: calfzilla on August 13, 2008, 07:47:34 PM
Chick when was the last time you juiced?  Was it when you won the war for the worlds masters? 
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: Disgusted on August 13, 2008, 07:48:17 PM
This sport is built upon lies and just blatant deception.

The term steroid user is very 'emotive'.  

Maybe to 'soften the blow' the term 'user of hormone replacement' would suffice!

Either way, a drug user is a drug user.



We are all drug users Hank. It's just that some people need to call others the bad guys in order to make themselves feel better for taking drugs themselves.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 13, 2008, 07:56:56 PM
There is a sense of shame attached to those who inject substances.

Bodybuilders are a delusional bunch.  They live in a constant state of denial and rationalization.

Our society is unnecessarily burdened by the fallout from drug users.

Happiness and contentment is an internal construct, it is not found inside a syringe!
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: Luinitari on August 13, 2008, 08:27:47 PM
There is a sense of shame attached to those who inject substances.

Bodybuilders are a delusional bunch.  They live in a constant state of denial and rationalization.

Our society is unnecessarily burdened by the fallout from drug users.

Happiness and contentment is an internal construct, it is not found inside a syringe!

agree
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: tommywishbone on August 13, 2008, 08:37:00 PM
I personally know pros that have been on since 1991/1992. The only breaks were immediately after surgery or when they were absolutely broke. I see no reason for an IFBB pro to go 100% natural.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: JohnnyVegas on August 13, 2008, 08:38:50 PM
shawn is just jealous cause he is chubby obese right now!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 13, 2008, 08:56:31 PM
The heroin addict talks about addiction-the physical addiction of 'process'. 

That is the scoring, preparation of substance and then the administration of it via the syringe.

The 'process' of addiction is identical to that of the steroid user. 

Yes, the bodybuilder/Pro develops identical addictive traits to that of any common-scum-heroin-ice-user.

My point again is; a drug user is a drug user!
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: The_Punisher on August 13, 2008, 09:07:32 PM
Chick never juiced, that's why he's been a Natural for 30yrs and counting.....way to go, Chick ;D ;D
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: tommywishbone on August 13, 2008, 09:22:35 PM
What would you expect someone who's been lifting 30 years to look like?

I know plenty of cats at Gold's Venice that have been training consistantly for 30 years and they never possessed that type of muscle mass and they never will. They were of course drug free.

I also know dudes that were on the gas for 15+ years, have over 20 years of hard training under their belts, now they're off everything and none of them have anywhere near the muscle they once had. Longevity does not equate to muscle.

That said, I see no reason for an IFBB pro to ever stop.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: flexingtonsteele on August 13, 2008, 09:28:53 PM
Yea Id say Chick had a pretty good base built :)
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: titusisback on August 13, 2008, 09:31:30 PM
of course he's natural.. Tom Prince showed us once you get muscular enough, you simply can't shrink much at all
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: TacoBell on August 13, 2008, 09:34:07 PM
I know plenty of cats at Gold's Venice that have been training consistantly for 30 years and they never possessed that type of muscle mass and they never will. They were of course drug free.

I also know dudes that were on the gas for 15+ years, have over 20 years of hard training under their belts, now they're off everything and none of them have anywhere near the muscle they once had. Longevity does not equate to muscle.

That said, I see no reason for an IFBB pro to ever stop.

Agreed completely.....
However Chick looks nothing like the pic above, in the recent pics in question.
And I dont know how many of the Golds guys you mentioned achieved pro status.... so we are still talking about the genetic elite in Chick, not them.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: dustin on August 13, 2008, 09:38:40 PM
Hank, why are you such a homo?
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 13, 2008, 09:40:00 PM
Bottom line, these so-called Pros have made a career out deception.  The sport is built upon secrecy, lies, stretching the truth and manipulations.

Chick may well be 'clean'.  But that does not mean we actually 'understand' Chick's definition of 'clean'.

As it is written; if you repeat the lie long enough, it eventually becomes the truth.

Props for the truth, hey Chick.

And yes, Levrone held on to his quality mass once he stopped juicing....hahahahahahah aha.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: nzmusclemonster on August 13, 2008, 09:40:09 PM
Are we talking about the Kai Greene style of juicing?
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: tommywishbone on August 13, 2008, 09:42:29 PM
Bottom line, these so-called Pros have made a career out deception.  The sport is built upon secrecy, lies, stretching the truth and manipulations.

Chick may well be 'clean'.  But that does not mean we actually 'understand' Chick's definition of 'clean'.

As it is written; if you repeat the lie long enough, it eventually becomes the truth.

Props for the truth, hey Chick.

And yes, Levrone held on to his quality mass once he stopped juicing....hahahahahahahaha.

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: gib on August 13, 2008, 10:12:49 PM
Chick - are you truely not running a low dosage of test and/or GH? (And have not done so, in say the last 6 months?) Not that I am doubting you, but like a few people have commented, your arms in that recent vid do look pretty impressive.

OK, and now a second question - be honest! Did you give your arms a bit of a pump up and deliberately flex them for the vid? (Again, nothing wrong with that, but just curious!)

Lastly, you look a bit leaner that you have done in pics/vids over the last few years, where dare I say it you looked bit chubby. Have you been dieting or doing a bit more aerobic work?
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: RagingBull on August 14, 2008, 12:59:42 AM
Yea Id say Chick had a pretty good base built :)

Best front double biceps pose in the game...zero abdominal distension to ruin it.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: musclehedz on August 14, 2008, 01:02:12 AM
Funny to see that some people still think you shrink like hell when you go off  :D

Doesn't work like that. Only happens when you stop training and eating correctly.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: knny187 on August 14, 2008, 02:25:19 PM
looked like he's lost  alot of size when visiting Jay
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: slayer on August 14, 2008, 03:00:56 PM
Funny to see that some people still think you shrink like hell when you go off :D

Doesn't work like that. Only happens when you stop training and eating correctly.
keep telling yourself that, jeez where the fuck do these idiots come from?


are you a failure in mathematics? this is a simple mathematic equation, less testosterone equals less muscle mass!
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: arce377 on August 14, 2008, 07:42:42 PM
HATING on Bob. Damn.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 14, 2008, 08:26:30 PM
This is got to be the worst kept secret in bodybuilding! 

Bob are you doing some form of HRT?...and yes, that is his business.

Look, Bob understands his body, Jesus Christ he has been on the sauce for a good part of his adult life.

I just don't understand what is the motivation to be old and jacked?

Why do middle aged men with beautiful families need the approval of anonymous nobodies?  Classic narcissism maybe?
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: Bast000 on August 14, 2008, 08:28:15 PM
Chick looks as big as he's ever been in those recent clips posted. 
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: Brutal_1 on August 14, 2008, 08:33:20 PM
Chick looks as big as he's ever been in those recent clips posted. 

are you implying that Chick has "Fialdo like" genetics?
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: elite_lifter on August 14, 2008, 08:36:12 PM
This IS natural....you should see me when im loaded up!!

30 years of training does have it's advantages, as does building a natural base for 8 years.
22 years on the sauce :o
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: 240 is Back on August 14, 2008, 09:04:56 PM
We are all drug users Hank.

I took some Tylenol tonight for a headache.

It's been 4 hours, so I think I'm "clean" again.  But not natural.  No way.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: JohnnyVegas on August 14, 2008, 09:15:39 PM
22 years on the sauce :o


Yeah, but at least Chick is BIG on the juice, while you Elite  are a skinny peckerhead    :D
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: elite_lifter on August 14, 2008, 09:16:29 PM

Yeah, but at least Chick is BIG on the juice, while you Elite  are a skinny peckerhead    :D
Fat Stalker
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: JohnnyVegas on August 14, 2008, 09:25:08 PM
Fat Stalker

Broomstick Boy, you should just delete your account now! It is only going to get worse.  ;D
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: elite_lifter on August 14, 2008, 09:28:55 PM
Broomstick Boy, you should just delete your account now! It is only going to get worse.  ;D
For you FATBOY
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: JohnnyVegas on August 14, 2008, 09:30:20 PM
For you FATBOY

OK Mr.

(http://www.allparty.co.uk/store/media/accessories/22668_Broomstick.jpg)
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: The Wizard on August 14, 2008, 11:15:19 PM
This is got to be the worst kept secret in bodybuilding! 

Bob are you doing some form of HRT?...and yes, that is his business.

Look, Bob understands his body, Jesus Christ he has been on the sauce for a good part of his adult life.

I just don't understand what is the motivation to be old and jacked?

Why do middle aged men with beautiful families need the approval of anonymous nobodies?  Classic narcissism maybe?
Typical teenage nobody sparring up to a guy who has achieved more than he ever will. EPIC jealousy. Keep hiding behind your computer Hank, all 165 pounds of you
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 14, 2008, 11:26:21 PM
It is painfully obvious to everyone who has seen the recent pics of Chick that he is indeed still on 'something'.

Bottom line, why all the skirting around the issue?  Why the double talk?  Why the smokescreen?

Pictures don't lie Chick! Why continue to mock and ridicule the intelligence of all who post here?

Yes, you are an incredibly intelligent person Chick, however, using your intellect to try and undermine and belittle those who 'call you out' is not only overtly arrogant but highly insulting!
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: boonstack on August 15, 2008, 05:38:03 AM
Typical teenage nobody sparring up to a guy who has achieved more than he ever will. EPIC jealousy. Keep hiding behind your computer Hank, all 165 pounds of you

yes, I'm sure Hank is very upset and jealous. I mean who doesn't want to have enlarged heart, liver and kidney issues? And especially its fun having a natural test level of 88 after your own body's natural means shut down. You have no idea what that kind of abuse does to a human body, child.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: musclecenter on August 15, 2008, 05:48:42 AM
Chick looks as big as he's ever been in those recent clips posted. 
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=226397.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=226397.0)
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 15, 2008, 05:59:42 AM
Chick is a middle aged man with a long history of 'use'. 

Chick must 'let go' of this crazy need to be the biggest guy in the gym....it really  isn't that important.

Chick has a beautiful wife and daughter, they love him for who he is, unconditionally.

In summary, i just hope he is telling the truth and is not 'using' anymore. However, i know the truth, i have seen the recent pics!

Take care Chick, long term organ damage and compromised immune systems are not fun.  And yes, early onset dementia and Alzheimer's can be a bit of burden as well.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: Moosejay on August 15, 2008, 06:01:58 AM
Drugs or not (I could not honestly care less - it's a personal choice if you ask me, worth the long-term organ risk if NFL,NBA,MLB,NHL, or NCAA starter in football, basketball or baseball, arguably worth it in boxing if you're Golden Gloves to begin with, but not worth it for bb or Olympic sports, imho), Chick is ONE WIDE MOFO in person...  Props to him for succeeding in the very difficult art, science, politics, and sport of bodybuilding.  Throughout his career, he always had good muscularity, very good symmetry, good conditioning, and very good presentation.  No matter what anybody says, the man was a 'complete' bodybuilder, much moreso imo than Yates' and Coleman's last few years and most of Cutler's career.   

OVERALL, Chick is one of the most successful bb's EVER.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: michael arvilla on August 15, 2008, 06:13:13 AM
jesus christ Bob..................... ...your making "Big Sean" look small!
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: Moosejay on August 15, 2008, 06:15:59 AM
jesus christ Bob..................... ...your making "Big Sean" look small!

Chick has massive f-arms
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 15, 2008, 06:17:44 AM
Chick is the complete bodybuilder.  Doesn't have a flaw. He is tall, has wide shoulders and small waist.  His legs are in proportion.  The guy would come in ripped, veins everywhere and dry as a bone.

Chick's bodybuilding credentials are not in dispute here!  The guy is a modern day legend, basically the ideal bodybuilding package.  

My issue is with the recent pics of him. He looks suspicially guilty of being back 'on'.  I know he claims to be natural.  I just think he is hiding something....Hmmmmmmm.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: Army of One on August 15, 2008, 06:19:13 AM
Its painfully obvious Bob is still on high doses, however he has far more on the line now than he did 10 years ago so it warrants it IMHO.Plastic trophy VS being the face of BB.com and paid accordingly, hmmmm tough choice.....
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: Tapeworm on August 15, 2008, 06:19:53 AM
Surely Hank Wood can't STILL be posting??
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 15, 2008, 06:23:58 AM
Chick put your health first and go easy on the HRT.

And yes, you make a mockery of Big Sean Allen
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: boonstack on August 15, 2008, 06:31:58 AM
OVERALL, Chick is one of the most successful bb's EVER.


Because that is what counts! ::)





Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 15, 2008, 06:44:14 PM
I am not tellling Chick how i think he should be living his life! 

He is a man in his forties for Christ sake. 

My issue with Chick is how has crafted a career out of 'double speak'.

Just hope he is getting regular blood work done, that's all!

Peace.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: Devon97 on August 15, 2008, 07:02:47 PM
I am not tellling Chick how i think he should be living his life! 

He is a man in his forties for Christ sake. 

My issue with Chick is how has crafted a career out of 'double speak'.

Just hope he is getting regular blood work done, that's all!

Peace.

Bump for the blood work !
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 15, 2008, 08:00:49 PM
I just think that a lot of these guys would feel liberated by the truth. 

Why continue to duck and weave the question and allegation of steroid usage?

Yes, the truth is very liberating....actually it can help 'set you free'.

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: elite_lifter on August 15, 2008, 08:02:23 PM
I just think that a lot of these guys would feel liberated by the truth. 

Why continue to duck and weave the question and allegation of steroid usage?

Yes, the truth is very liberating....actually it can help 'set you free'.

Just my two cents.
Chick never denied it, admitted to using for 22 yrs
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 15, 2008, 08:08:39 PM
Chick, this is not about hate nor jealously! 

I agree, you are one of the most complete bodybuilders of the modern era.

My issue is your recent 'double speak'...Why the charade regarding HRT rationalization.

Anyway, that's your business.

Peace.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: theworm on August 15, 2008, 08:31:09 PM
truth?

hank, how much test is Shawn on right now?  he is looking big these days as well.  what 400 a week?
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 15, 2008, 08:54:23 PM
I understand how the 'addiction process' works.  It is insidious. 

The roid-shootin-Pro develops  an addiction to the needle....they become addicted to 'bigness'.

And like any addicted person, take away the substance and depression and worthlessness ensues.

It must be difficult for an X Pro to deal with the shrinkage after the needles stop.

Anyway there is always the life-line of HRT.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: theworm on August 16, 2008, 07:03:41 AM
so how much is Shawn taking a week?  scared of the truth?
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: johnnytosh on August 16, 2008, 04:26:19 PM
This IS natural....you should see me when im loaded up!!

30 years of training does have it's advantages, as does building a natural base for 8 years.

Hey Chick, I saw you at the Tampa Pro last weekend. You looked great. I wanted to say hi, but you
were looked a little too busy, talking to Tim Gardner & making the rounds. Do you miss Rochester at all?  I'm originally from Buffalo, now living in Tampa.  The sleeveless shirt at prejudging was a nice touch.
You're still a beast.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: @Brandon on August 17, 2008, 01:15:38 AM
Imagine if he stops HRT cold turkey.

Chick, Milos even Dorian must do HRT in order to be taken seriously.

They cant afford walking around looking like a 155lbs Tom Prince at BB shows
having people pointing fingers and laughing while throwing proteinbars at him.

"I am bigger than you, therefore I deserve respect" is the BB industry rule.
Keep juicing in moderate doses is an investment for them.

Don't force them to admit it, they cant say they juice, due to legal and business reasons.
They look good doing it(not Dorian).

You cant have lean and bigger arms naturaly than a juiced up Sean Allen
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: phish on August 17, 2008, 07:45:06 AM
the thing is normal hrt is like 100mg for people for bodybuilders normal hrt is 500mg-1000mg depending on their ego when they retire. so when flex and all them say they are natural yes natural compared to their juiced to the gills days flex still rocks 500mg test a week imo.
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 18, 2008, 08:15:02 PM
Chick, you have an opinion on everything yet fall unconventionally silent on how you feel that HRT may benefit and aging physique!
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: Chick on August 18, 2008, 08:17:55 PM
Chick, you have an opinion on everything yet fall unconventionally silent on how you feel that HRT may benefit and aging physique!

I could care less if people opt to use HRT...I haven't to this point, but wouldn't rule it out either. To each their own....
Title: Re: Surely Chick can't still be juicing ???
Post by: elite_lifter on August 18, 2008, 08:24:48 PM
I could care less if people opt to use HRT...I haven't to this point, but wouldn't rule it out either. To each their own....
So you still follow the time on time off protocol?